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Posted By: Bear Charge

does - 09/26/12 02:58 AM

Do any of you look down on those that shoot does? Some on my leases(i have two) act like shooting does is a waist. We are overrun with them but the testosterone has everyone looking for the biggest buck. Do you think my affinity for mature does affects their buck hunting?
Posted By: txshntr

Re: does - 09/26/12 03:00 AM

I shoot the heck out of the does and we encourage everyone on our place to do the same.
Posted By: quackaholic1

Re: does - 09/26/12 03:05 AM

A mature doe can be a real challenge to kill with a bow.
Posted By: blackdog64-79

Re: does - 09/26/12 03:07 AM

buck doe ratio is very important to health of the herd and the chances of raising bigger bucks.
Posted By: Txhuntr2

Re: does - 09/26/12 03:07 AM

There are a few on my lease that don't shoot does. I think it is an older mentality that results from a lack of ecological and conservation knowledge. I usually kill a buck and three does a season. Keep at it. It's a good practice if you are overrun with them. You might try printing out TPWDs management articles that encourage doe harvest and leave them in camp for the others to read. Might not change their mind but should make them feel dumb for getting onto you about it.
Posted By: HoosierDaddy3

Re: does - 09/26/12 04:11 AM

Enter the debate of meat hunting vs. trophy hunting. I plan on putting a couple of tasty does in the freezer this fall.
Posted By: eddym

Re: does - 09/26/12 11:04 AM

A buck or two are fun to hunt and shoot. Does fill the freezer for me.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: does - 09/26/12 11:34 AM

i shoot several does for every buck I shoot.

I won't shoot a buck for meat, period.
Posted By: Damon69

Re: does - 09/26/12 11:58 AM

We encourage everybody on our place takes the 2 does. FREEZER FILLERS.
Posted By: dlrz71

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:19 PM

Does are good archery practice as well for when that big ole bruiser shows up.

Does are some good eating. Bucks are good eating as well.
Posted By: dlrz71

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:19 PM

Does are good archery practice as well for when that big ole bruiser shows up.

Does are some good eating. Bucks are good eating as well.
Posted By: LandPirate

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:20 PM

I shoot the heck out of does. Best thing you can do for the overall good of the herd. Shoot all you can and then shoot some more.
Posted By: LandPirate

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: HoosierDaddy3
Enter the debate of meat hunting vs. trophy hunting. I plan on putting a couple of tasty does in the freezer this fall.


I think you will find that the real trophy hunters, the ones who employ biologists and actually manage the herd based on science, are the one's killing the majority of the does.
Posted By: AdvTX

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:31 PM

We're in Foard county and I don't see enough does to shoot! In 10 years we have only shot 3 mature does. I see a lot more bucks than does.
Posted By: artrios60

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:32 PM

Gotta shoot'em no ifs ands or buts about it.
Posted By: LandPirate

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:37 PM

Originally Posted By: AdvTX
We're in Foard county and I don't see enough does to shoot! In 10 years we have only shot 3 mature does. I see a lot more bucks than does.


Just because you don't see 'em don't mean that they aren't there.

On my lease you'd typically see 10-12 bucks to every doe. The bucks dominated the feeders and the does wouldn't venture anywhere close.

Helicopter surveys every year showed a 1.8 does to every buck. If you have bucks, then you have does.
Posted By: hook_n_line

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:45 PM

No problem with taking them. I'm in an antler restricted county and can only take does during archery and 4 days of the Thansgiving holiday. We have plenty of does since I'm the only one who bow hunts. I take one in archery season and one during the holiday if I can.
Posted By: 30378

Re: does - 09/26/12 01:54 PM

Most years we shoot does and manage the ratios. Last year we were hit by wildfires and drought that reduced our doe population by 50%. For a couple of years we will be trying to let them walk and build the numbers back up somewhat. Managing does should be a part of any property plan.
Posted By: 8pointdrop

Re: does - 09/26/12 02:23 PM

A lot of places will not allow you to shoot a buck without killing a doe first.
Posted By: BuckFan

Re: does - 09/26/12 03:19 PM

I shoot the heck out of them.. IMO better eating than an old rutty buck. My typical year is 3 does and usually a cull buck( junky 6 or 7 point). I shoot what I consider a trophy about once every 3 or 4 years seems like.

I enjoy managing the herd just as much as getting to take a trophy.. It's a year'round process and takes up pretty much all of my free time away from work. You can not expect your deer herd to get healthier or the bucks as a whole to get bigger without a management plan (Taking out the does, culling the bucks, food plots, supplemental feeding)

Even if you don't have much land it is good to manage your place. Our place(Cherokee County) is low fence and we have been managing it for about 15 years now. We see positive results every year. Our neighbors also see results when they shoot big deer, but hey, that's just part of hunting.. Can't claim a buck!

Sure, you can go out, not do anything all year, buy a license the day before season and shoot a monster in the first 5 minutes of opening day while drinking coffee, eating donuts, and reading the sports section.. Works for some, just never for me..
Posted By: TX_Hoghunter

Re: does - 09/26/12 03:25 PM

I will shoot a doe in a heartbeat. The only time that I hold back is if I have lots of pictures of amy target buck coming to that feeder. In that case I will wait for him before sticking a doe.

-john
Posted By: Erathkid

Re: does - 09/26/12 04:36 PM

It is totally dependant on the individual property. Some areas,like south Texas and the Edwards plateau have too many doe. Kill 'em. Other places(North central Tx,for instance)could see the deer population double and still be below CC. In Erath cty. we don't shoot them. In Comal cty,we whack 'em and stack 'em.
Posted By: Booner1

Re: does - 09/27/12 01:56 AM

You should shoot your does first and take 2 of them for each buck taken. JMO.
Posted By: nuprofessor

Re: does - 09/29/12 11:45 AM

FIRST OF ALL: Wondering what happen to the post I put on here?!?!

I am a meat hunter first and foremost. When I hunt it is not for something to put on the wall- it is for the freezer. I prefer does over bucks for meat quality. Does are my primary target.
Now that being said: If a nice legal buck comes my way- it goes down. I will just make more summer sausage or burger that year. With unlimited antlerless tags- I can spend the rest of the season putting steak / roast meat in the freezer.
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: does - 09/29/12 02:21 PM

Still haven't found a recipe for antlers, so until then, I'll continue to shoot does. I can't tell the diff between a buck or a doe once its on the grill food
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: does - 09/29/12 02:29 PM

When starting on a ranch I shoot does till I don't see any then take a 2 week break. Then go back and shoot the rest of what I can find. Then once I have ratios like I want I kill the same number of doe as I have in doe fawns born that year.
Posted By: Savage388

Re: does - 09/29/12 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: AdvTX
We're in Foard county and I don't see enough does to shoot! In 10 years we have only shot 3 mature does. I see a lot more bucks than does.


Same thing in my neck of the woods. I'm not against shooting does, just won't do it at my house.
Posted By: bassman110

Re: does - 09/29/12 03:12 PM

I shoot does with out a second thought. I agree with the previous post the ratio of does to bucks is important. Especially in drought years like we have had in recent years which limit the forage. I drew an antlerless hunt last year at one of the state parks and park rangers and management were very supportive of the hunt. The deer heard was very large with lots of does. They were really doing damage to plants and areas of the park. The same will happen on your lease if you do not manage the does in the heard.
Posted By: Kory

Re: does - 09/29/12 03:48 PM

i have been busted by more does than i ever have bucks. I shot a huge doe last year on opening day because she came in and started blowing and ran every deer off. She sat about 60 yards behind me and blew for about 30 min. That evening she came in with the same group from the morning and i let the air out of her. She held that arrow for all of 10 yards. She was delicious.
Posted By: SwampHunterFw

Re: does - 09/29/12 04:07 PM

Ok gotta question I'm not a deer hunter so just wondering , you do people not keep the does that produce good bucks ? I mean if you got thousands of game cam pics an stuff of does at feeders with fawns an one grows up to be a monster buck why not keep the mother around that's producing the good bucks ? Seems every one only worrys bout keeping the good bucks around for breeding ?? Jw
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: does - 09/29/12 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: SwampHunterFw
Ok gotta question I'm not a deer hunter so just wondering , you do people not keep the does that produce good bucks ? I mean if you got thousands of game cam pics an stuff of does at feeders with fawns an one grows up to be a monster buck why not keep the mother around that's producing the good bucks ? Seems every one only worrys bout keeping the good bucks around for breeding ?? Jw

Can you identify her? What you are doing when killing doe/buck numbers off is taking off the number of replacements(fawns) coming into replace them if you are at carrying capacity. You want a younger doe herd. It will mean a better genetic diversity. Younger does will be related to the buck doing the breeding. If everything comes together (right buck breeds the right doe to produce the right offspring) then the offspring of the doe and buck cross should be better than the sires. You hope. grin
Posted By: SwampHunterFw

Re: does - 09/29/12 05:18 PM

Oh ok , just wondering
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