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Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy)
Posted By: stxranchman
Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:05 PM
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Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:05 PM
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Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:06 PM
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Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:07 PM
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Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:07 PM
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Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:07 PM
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Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:08 PM
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Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:08 PM
Posted By: 68rustbucket
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:09 PM
And the winner is?
Posted By: angus1956
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 08:13 PM
Man that's something, no one was backing down. Looks like the mature buck finally got the upper hand.
Great pics.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:12 PM
At first I thought the older 9pt would win it easily, but the younger 9pt held his own for a while. Both new how to fight and both tried to get under the other to gain the advantage. In the end the old 9pt won the fight.
Posted By: 4Weight
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:22 PM
Boy when they lay those ears back like that they are PISSED ! Great pics.
Posted By: Biscuit
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:23 PM
Beautiful pics sir
Posted By: bill oxner
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:34 PM
Wrong. Can't get too picture. Heavy when you are posting.
Posted By: skinnerback
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:47 PM
Great pics as usual. They were gettin' after it. It's a wonder more bucks don't lose an eye.
Posted By: Stompy
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:51 PM
Posted By: colt45-90
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:52 PM
surprised they didn't get locked up, great pics, thanks for sharing
Posted By: Texas buckeye
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 09:56 PM
Very impressive. But you need to have a sign at the feeder for bucks to socially distance...its to keep
Everyone safe and sound
Posted By: Stub
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 10:00 PM
Posted By: tlk
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 10:03 PM
great stuff thanks!
Posted By: BbarVRanch
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 10:06 PM
Thanks for posting!
Posted By: twdjr
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 10:11 PM
Posted By: raiderJ
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 10:17 PM
Cool post... thanks
Posted By: kmon11
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 10:34 PM
Great pics again. Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: Judd
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 11:19 PM
Amazing sequence of pictures, thanks for sharing.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 11:41 PM
Great pics as usual. They were gettin' after it. It's a wonder more bucks don't lose an eye.
They really were getting after it. Depends on the ranch but on some ranches you see a lot of bucks that are blind in one eye and some you see very few. They way the wrench around when locked up, I agree it is amazing that more do not loose an eye.
Thanks everyone
Posted By: redhaze
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 11:44 PM
Nice pics.
Posted By: HornSlayer
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/10/21 11:46 PM
Post of the season, thanks StxRanchman. So will the young buck challenge the old guy again this season. Is this a daily ritual between bucks?
Posted By: ErikL
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 12:47 AM
nice pics
Posted By: NDN98
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:10 AM
Amazing pics. Thanks for sharing!
Posted By: Hudbone
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:23 AM
Any pretty spotted hogs?
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:40 AM
Posted By: kry226
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:44 AM
Whoa! Great pics, as usual, Stx!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:45 AM
Should of shot that old bully!!!
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:56 AM
Amazing sequence of pictures, thanks for sharing.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:03 AM
Post of the season, thanks StxRanchman. So will the young buck challenge the old guy again this season. Is this a daily ritual between bucks?
If the older buck stays around they could cross paths again next season. This was my first time on this ranch so I do not know much about these deer and how far they range. Judging be the amount of broken up bucks, scarred up and injured bucks I would say that fighting was a daily routine since the start of the rut. Maybe not every buck fighting everyday but I would bet there were multiple fights per day. With the second rut kicking in the bucks were moving into new territories looking for does so fighting would be expected. Probably even a little more than during the first rut since many of the does have already been bred.
Posted By: Big_Ag
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:19 AM
That’s awesome
Posted By: Ag Hunter 78
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:52 AM
Where was the referee?
Posted By: Hudbone
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 11:46 AM
"With the second rut kicking in the bucks were moving into new territories looking for does so fighting would be expected." - Concur whole heartedly and it helps to "freshen" the gene pool.
Posted By: ILUVBIGBUCKS
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:19 PM
Great pics stxrm!!!
Are you allowed to shoot with anything besides the camera on this ranch?
Seems as though that old 8 is a perfect example of a management buck down south on most places and a cull on the higher end places.
Besides, your old buddy ILBB needs some backstraps!
Posted By: Hudbone
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:26 PM
Yep, that guy will never be worth anything and needs to go. Maybe a fortunate hunter will find him.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 01:59 PM
Great pics stxrm!!!
Are you allowed to shoot with anything besides the camera on this ranch?
Seems as though that old 8 is a perfect example of a management buck down south on most places and a cull on the higher end places.
Besides, your old buddy ILBB needs some backstraps!
He was actually a mainframe 9pt with a bump or broken G4 on his right beam also....so possibly a 10pt. He would still not make the minimums for a trophy buck on this ranch by age and score.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:01 PM
Should of shot that old bully!!!
I did over 100 times.....and never missed once with my camera
Posted By: HuntnFly67
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:18 PM
If you scroll fast enough you can almost watch the fight happen.
Great pics!
Posted By: TLew
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:25 PM
Awesome pictures -- old buck took some licks but looks like he was the only one to spill blood.
Based on the pictures, it looks like the youngin gave up after going in the cactus. Was that the end?
Posted By: bobcat1
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:38 PM
Awesome photos STX. Pretty good camera and cameraman.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:44 PM
Awesome pictures -- old buck took some licks but looks like he was the only one to spill blood.
Based on the pictures, it looks like the youngin gave up after going in the cactus. Was that the end?
I did not see any wounds or blood on either buck...they both came back into that feeder area at least two more times that evening. This fight was at 4:38 that afternoon. A doe came in and got several of the younger bucks attention till the older buck came in a bit later.
The younger buck held his own and gave the older buck all he wanted till the older buck got under him. He then turned the head on the younger buck(like a steer wrestler would) and started to drag/push the buck towards the blind. At that point I just knew the older buck would break the younger bucks neck if that young buck stumbled or fell. When they got to the cactus it was like the younger buck knew it was there and almost stepped/jumped over it...at that point the older buck took him to the ground. I thought he would break his neck at this point but the older bucks momentum kinda rolled him over the top of the buck and he stopped. That allowed the younger buck to get his legs under him and break free. He was leaving in those last 2 pics. Normally the buck that wins will chase and hook the fleeing buck but the older buck just ran a couple of steps and stopped, watching the younger buck run off into the brush. The fight did "rattle" in 2 more bucks that came in and one was a 4 yr old 5x5 that the younger 5x4 bowed up on and walked him off the sendero a bit later.
Posted By: Old Rabbit
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:49 PM
Great pictures once again.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 02:49 PM
If you scroll fast enough you can almost watch the fight happen.
Great pics!
I am able to do that with all the pics on my computer...I can take the folder and put it on slide show mode.
Thanks again everyone.
Posted By: NORML as can be
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 03:59 PM
That was cool!
Posted By: Whack n stack
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 04:12 PM
Awesome pictures! Thanks for sharing!
Posted By: Speny713
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 04:18 PM
Low man wins! Thanks for posting.
Posted By: LG
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 05:00 PM
amazing!
Posted By: TLew
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 05:36 PM
Awesome pictures -- old buck took some licks but looks like he was the only one to spill blood.
Based on the pictures, it looks like the youngin gave up after going in the cactus. Was that the end?
I did not see any wounds or blood on either buck...they both came back into that feeder area at least two more times that evening. This fight was at 4:38 that afternoon. A doe came in and got several of the younger bucks attention till the older buck came in a bit later.
The younger buck held his own and gave the older buck all he wanted till the older buck got under him. He then turned the head on the younger buck(like a steer wrestler would) and started to drag/push the buck towards the blind. At that point I just knew the older buck would break the younger bucks neck if that young buck stumbled or fell. When they got to the cactus it was like the younger buck knew it was there and almost stepped/jumped over it...at that point the older buck took him to the ground. I thought he would break his neck at this point but the older bucks momentum kinda rolled him over the top of the buck and he stopped. That allowed the younger buck to get his legs under him and break free. He was leaving in those last 2 pics. Normally the buck that wins will chase and hook the fleeing buck but the older buck just ran a couple of steps and stopped, watching the younger buck run off into the brush. The fight did "rattle" in 2 more bucks that came in and one was a 4 yr old 5x5 that the younger 5x4 bowed up on and walked him off the sendero a bit later.
My bad, I thought the younger was bloodied up on the neck in this picture. Must just be fur direction or coloration
Posted By: pkhunter624
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 06:05 PM
Great pictures. That young one will be boss soon
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 06:17 PM
Great pics as usual. They were gettin' after it. It's a wonder more bucks don't lose an eye.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 06:29 PM
Awesome pictures -- old buck took some licks but looks like he was the only one to spill blood.
Based on the pictures, it looks like the youngin gave up after going in the cactus. Was that the end?
I did not see any wounds or blood on either buck...they both came back into that feeder area at least two more times that evening. This fight was at 4:38 that afternoon. A doe came in and got several of the younger bucks attention till the older buck came in a bit later.
The younger buck held his own and gave the older buck all he wanted till the older buck got under him. He then turned the head on the younger buck(like a steer wrestler would) and started to drag/push the buck towards the blind. At that point I just knew the older buck would break the younger bucks neck if that young buck stumbled or fell. When they got to the cactus it was like the younger buck knew it was there and almost stepped/jumped over it...at that point the older buck took him to the ground. I thought he would break his neck at this point but the older bucks momentum kinda rolled him over the top of the buck and he stopped. That allowed the younger buck to get his legs under him and break free. He was leaving in those last 2 pics. Normally the buck that wins will chase and hook the fleeing buck but the older buck just ran a couple of steps and stopped, watching the younger buck run off into the brush. The fight did "rattle" in 2 more bucks that came in and one was a 4 yr old 5x5 that the younger 5x4 bowed up on and walked him off the sendero a bit later.
My bad, I thought the younger was bloodied up on the neck in this picture. Must just be fur direction or coloration
Not saying he did not have any blood on him, but when he came back in after the fight I did not see any sign of it. You would expect to see it with the tines in the face, head and neck areas. What you are seeing is the same thing I saw when looking at the pics...signs of off colored hair. Could be he did not shed all of his summer coat completely or his winter coat is starting to turn off color. I noticed this on a couple of bucks. Could be something else but still noticeable on a couple of bucks.
Here is that buck right before the fight and then the last pic is right after it. If you look at the last pic you can see the red colored hair behind his front shoulders and down his leg. Same thing on his hindquarter on the longer hair below his tail down his leg.
Posted By: elcasador
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 06:46 PM
Great pics STX! Thank's for sharing
Posted By: LeonCarr
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 07:57 PM
While they were scrapping, did any other deer come out and watch?
Excellent photographs.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Posted By: dkershen
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/11/21 08:21 PM
Great series of photos
Might want to consider building a slide show of that and posting to YouTube?
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 12:26 AM
Great series of photos
Might want to consider building a slide show of that and posting to YouTube?
Thanks...I may look into it.
Posted By: Whammer7
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 12:37 AM
I always enjoy your pictures, thank you for sharing! What a scrap!!
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 02:16 PM
Thanks again
Posted By: JimBridger
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 02:21 PM
Great pics! Thanks for posting.
Posted By: redchevy
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 02:25 PM
Man that must have been cool to watch. Just looking at that younger ones head and neck turning... i was wondering how much more before... snnnaaapp!
Posted By: Big8
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 02:38 PM
Great pics!
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 03:06 PM
Man that must have been cool to watch. Just looking at that younger ones head and neck turning... i was wondering how much more before... snnnaaapp!
It was cool to watch and everyone I have ever seen was just as cool...many were shorter and a few were even much longer. It is a rare site to see when you see one in person. Several things have to line up for it...right time of the season, right buck to doe ratio, right 2 bucks at the same location at the same time, the bucks have to be in a location you can see them and you have to be there to witness it. Then throw in wanting capture it on camera and it adds another very limiting factor. I have been luck to see many fights over the years and even luckier to get many on camera. I have to learn to read deer and their posture and then have the camera setup to capture that fight. This one I had the camera ready and made a minor adjustment to the settings to capture movement on that overcast afternoon. I could read the older bucks posture as soon as he stepped out and how the other bucks reacted to him. I could tell he was not from that area and had just traveled in looking for does. The camera did the rest.
Posted By: emorydog
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 03:26 PM
Amazing that all that can go down and nobody gets an eye poked out.
Posted By: Triplesnake
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 04:39 PM
Great pics!
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/12/21 09:07 PM
Amazing that all that can go down and nobody gets an eye poked out.
While it does happen from time to time it is amazing it does not happen with every fight (that lasts for more than a few seconds).
Thanks again everyone.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/13/21 05:10 PM
For those interested these photos were all taken with the camera set on Program Auto(due to moving animals) and moved to 640 ISO at f4 so that I could get the shutter speed to 1/250s or 1/320's. Being dark and knowing the animals would be moving, I was wanting to keep the pics clear and not as blurry from their movement with faster shutter speed. I should have run the ISO up a bit more to 800 or either went to shutter priority mode if I had had more time to do the adjustments.
Posted By: Fltmedic
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/13/21 05:37 PM
Amazing photos and ability to be there when it all came to fruition! Thanks for sharing as always awesome pics!!!
Posted By: freerange
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/13/21 07:33 PM
The fight was amazing to see and the ability to capture that quality of photo with all that movement is way over my limited photography skills. I try to take a pic of a buck when he is stone still and if he moves his head up or down it completely blurs it. Of course I have admitted many times I havent tried to do anything much with the camera except full auto and often times my subjects are a good ways off. As always, thanks for posting and giving tips as well.
Posted By: BA223
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/15/21 02:06 AM
Sure appreciate you sharing that! Those pics are amazing. Awesome to see this battle unfold!
Posted By: Screwdriver
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/15/21 07:59 PM
Thanks for sharing!
Posted By: landsurveyor
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/15/21 08:24 PM
Very cool
Posted By: mfreeman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/17/21 04:09 AM
Awesome pics. Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/17/21 04:25 PM
Thanks again everyone
Posted By: JM78255
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/18/21 06:00 PM
Awesome Photos👍
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/20/21 03:08 PM
Thanks
Posted By: Lost-On-Caddo
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/27/21 01:45 AM
looks like stamina beat size that time
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/27/21 02:22 AM
looks like stamina beat size that time
Personally, I think the older mature buck was the winner for several reason. He was older, thus he had been in more fights. He was shorter in body length and more compact and that allowed him to gain leverage .....that allowed him get underneath the younger buck. Being older he knew how use his strengths to win a fight from his experience at fighting over the past.
Back 15-16 yrs ago now I watched a mature South Texas buck come into a feeder...he was either a 5 or 6 yr old 150 class 10 pt . He was really gimpy and limping badly at this time during the rut in late Dec. At that same blind in walked what I thought was 4 yr old really large bodied 6x5 that was pushing 170. Both of them postured and I thought this 4 yr old is going to win any fight hands down. I thought in the shape that older buck was in that this is not going to be pretty or end well for him. Not only was I wrong but the older buck(who was in far worse shape) won the fight quickly, but with ease. He used his age and fighting knowledge to get up and under that 4 yr and rolled him. Once he did that in a few seconds the younger buck new he was done. The older buck then chased him off and walked him out of sight. The mature buck then limped back to the feeder and started checking does.
Posted By: J. Richard
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/27/21 02:52 AM
Awesome pics, I especially enjoyed this one where the mature buck basically "pins" both antlers of the 4 yr buck with his left antler. As you mentioned, experience matters.
Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: Biscuit
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/27/21 10:32 PM
Awesome pics, I especially enjoyed this one where the mature buck basically "pins" both antlers of the 4 yr buck with his left antler. As you mentioned, experience matters.
Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic
Posted By: NORML as can be
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 01/28/21 03:45 AM
Amazing
Posted By: tophorsecop
Re: Rumble at Rudy's(pic heavy) - 02/05/21 03:54 AM
If you scroll at the right speed it's almost a video...very nice work sir !!!