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Lost a road from the last rain.

Posted By: HWY_MAN

Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 12:30 PM

Water came down the draw so hard it washed one of the culverts out of the creek and up to the road. Good thing is it didn't go down the creek.


Posted By: Western

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 12:48 PM

Is all that rock you brought in for the berm? That took some hydraulics but at least it doesn't appear like the culvert took any damage.

We have a crossing as well, put in a 4' pipe (spensive!) then my brother, bil and I poured 4k worth of 8" crete for the top and sides on a 40' crossing after the dozar guy built it up, 4 days later it started raining and didn't stop until almost 15" fell, got to use that "crossing" once before it was washed out of a wet weather drainage bang
Posted By: dlrz71

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 01:15 PM

Wow!!
Posted By: deewayne2003

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 01:37 PM

Yeah after 10+ years in the excavation business I can tell you that hydraulics and diesel will never compare to the force of moving water.

At some point you got to figure the true cost over time of how many times you will have to fix crossings like that and start looking at if its feasible to put in a steel bridge over the draw vs. your typical culvert & rock crossing.

You can buy used drill stem cheap these days and even if you had to put piers in the creek bed if they get washed out you could have a welder cut them off with a torch and re-weld new ones cheaper than the cost of getting dozer/excavator and concrete out there..... assuming you don't have your own equipment on site.
Posted By: Stub

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 01:54 PM

Bummer on the wash out, glad you still have your pipe up
Posted By: Pope&Young

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 02:34 PM

Never underestimate the power of water eeks333
Posted By: redchevy

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 02:42 PM

Ouch
Posted By: Mr. T.

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 03:03 PM

Man, a lot of hard work down the drain.
Posted By: erathar

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 03:32 PM

I would put a couple more of the same size culvert in.
Posted By: 8pointdrop

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 03:44 PM

Culvert get blocked or just overwhelmed?
Posted By: cabosandinh

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: deewayne2003
Yeah after 10+ years in the excavation business I can tell you that hydraulics and diesel will never compare to the force of moving water.

At some point you got to figure the true cost over time of how many times you will have to fix crossings like that and start looking at if its feasible to put in a steel bridge over the draw vs. your typical culvert & rock crossing.

You can buy used drill stem cheap these days and even if you had to put piers in the creek bed if they get washed out you could have a welder cut them off with a torch and re-weld new ones cheaper than the cost of getting dozer/excavator and concrete out there..... assuming you don't have your own equipment on site.


thanks for sharing your experience

I've thought about using big rocks / boulders, like they used for bridge pilings.... have you done anything like that inland and your thoughts ?


I fixed a creek crossing using 4 oil field grates (6x15; 1000 lbs )

it worked by slowing down current , trapped debris and build up over time

I had 1-2' of build up

running water cuts so my design was to prevent that cutting and it worked for that creek

but that's a lot more money than a 53' belly dump of boulders
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 05:00 PM

Better move the culvert to safety, another round of rain is coming this weekend.
Posted By: dkershen

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
Man, a lot of hard work down the drain.
And even more hard work to repair it.
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/11/18 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: deewayne2003
Yeah after 10+ years in the excavation business I can tell you that hydraulics and diesel will never compare to the force of moving water.

At some point you got to figure the true cost over time of how many times you will have to fix crossings like that and start looking at if its feasible to put in a steel bridge over the draw vs. your typical culvert & rock crossing.

You can buy used drill stem cheap these days and even if you had to put piers in the creek bed if they get washed out you could have a welder cut them off with a torch and re-weld new ones cheaper than the cost of getting dozer/excavator and concrete out there..... assuming you don't have your own equipment on site.


Ouch
Posted By: heredeer

Re: Lost a road from the last rain. - 10/12/18 01:47 PM

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