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Picked it up today. JM Stamped 45/70 Marlin Guide Gun:

nice you need these to go with it and a recoil limbsaver also:

Buffalo Bore : https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=151

Item 8A (430gr. Hard Cast penetrator)
➤   1920 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel
➤   1879 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel
Item 8B (405gr. JFN expander)
➤   2002 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel
➤   1955 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel
Item 8C (350gr. JFN penetrator)
➤   2145 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel
➤   2060 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel
Item 8D (500gr. Barnes Buster FMJ-FN penetrator)
➤   1628 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel
➤   1590 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel
Item 8E (300gr JHP expander)
➤   2355 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel
➤   2263 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel

Many a Grizzly Bear, Cape Buffalo, Bison and other dangerous game have fallen to our 45-70 loads since we began 45-70 production 1999. Below is an idea of what type of game these loads were designed for.

Item 8A -- for game where 5 to 6 feet of straight line non-expanded penetration is needed.

Item 8B -- the bullet utilized expands to an inch or more in diameter at our velocities and hence penetration is limited to about two feet in flesh and bone. This is the single most effective hog and black bear load ever devised in 45-70. I don't use it on animals weighing more than 800 lbs as it won't give adequate penetration at bad angles for animals larger than 800 lbs. If you'll limit yourself to broadside (double lung) and CNS hits, this load will work on 2,000 lb animals.

Item 8C -- The bullet we utilize in this load is very tough and gives only a small to moderate sized mushroom (about .60 cal) and because of the smallish mushroom, it penetrates very deep -- about 4 feet in muscles and bone and as such is a great bullet for use on dangerous game and on smaller game too as it does expand some. This load is the most versatile of our 45-70 loads.

Item 8D -- This bullet is a solid and won't mushroom and thus will penetrate 5 to 6 feet in muscle and bone.

Item 8E -- the bullet utilized in this load will expand radically and will penetrate only about 18 to 24 inches in muscle and bone and was designed for use on animals weighing no more than 400 lbs. At 2350 fps it is very fast and flat shooting. (For a 45-70)

Very nice.

That will get the job done.
Good looking gun

I'm a little green with envy. I've wanted a lever 45-70 for a while.

Congrats!

great looking gun

Similar to my Bear Gun. I run mine with a peep and a clamp on flashlight (for nights spent in a tent). Run the 430 Buffalo Bore and there is nothing you have to fear. Great looking rig.

You can load a mix of different rounds and stagger penetrating and expanding every other shot if POI isn't to different

Shoot some 405 grain cast bullets out of one at about 1800-1900 fps it eats on both ends!

Nice.

That'll work and then some

Congrats!!! I'd like to have that exact rifle!!

This looks like fun on Pigs:

Item 8B -- the bullet utilized expands to an inch or more in diameter at our velocities and hence penetration is limited to about two feet in flesh and bone. This is the single most effective hog and black bear load ever devised in 45-70. I don't use it on animals weighing more than 800 lbs as it won't give adequate penetration at bad angles for animals larger than 800 lbs. If you'll limit yourself to broadside (double lung) and CNS hits, this load will work on 2,000 lb animals.

Item 8B (405gr. JFN expander)
2002 fps -- Marlin 1895, 22 inch barrel
1955 fps -- Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, 18.5 inch barrel

Big thunder!!!

Congrats

that should work

Me too. Itch is now scratched.

Having a hard time finding Buffalo Bore in Canada. Picked up 2 boxes of the Hornady 325 gr leverevolution. I'll see how they work and use the brass for reloads.

Took me 2 years to find a JM stamped in stainless in like new condition close enough to home that i could shoot it before buying it.

You may have to measure the brass: I believe the Hornady brass has been cut down shorter in order to use the FTX bullets. And if you reload the brass with FTX you will need to use Hornady New Dimension Dies- which I think are themselves shorter than regular Dies.

Aztecharmory.com is the outlet for BB in Canada. For bears hardcast only way to go IMO.

Thx. Will look them up.

Now that's a boom stick!