Posted By: cmorsch
2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 03:05 PM
Is there a thread started or a plan for a group elk hunt this year?
2016 Group Elk Hunt?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 03:08 PM
Now there is. 
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 03:30 PM
there has been some off radar discussions but most have to wait a while (myself included) to see how things shake out a bit later before anything is planned. I think anyone from the previous couple of years that have gone would be more than happy to help or give advise where needed though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 03:51 PM
I would really like to, but I can't commit to anything just yet. If anyone wants to put something together, I'll help any way I can.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 03:54 PM
What were the results of the 2015 hunt?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 04:17 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Now there is.
The new leader??
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 04:20 PM
Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
What were the results of the 2015 hunt?
They all made it back home. Touch and go with cleric though
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 04:25 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
What were the results of the 2015 hunt?
They all made it back home. Touch and go with cleric though
I think he sacraficed a pair of britches.BTW, I read Sneaky's hunt report and no vehicles where sacrificed by "fire", so..Good hunt
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 04:40 PM
Notice I took doubleb20 last year... My truck was safe.
Grant it he was very hesitant to get into my truck
Posted By: ChadTRG42
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 04:49 PM
I would be down for something this year!!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 05:01 PM
Think I better stay close again this year; focus on the deer lease, be around for family.
However, Western - I'd go easy on the details of when you're leaving and where you're headed this year. I'm not above shadowing a man on the way to his honey hole.
However, Western - I'd go easy on the details of when you're leaving and where you're headed this year. I'm not above shadowing a man on the way to his honey hole.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 05:11 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Notice I took doubleb20 last year... My truck was safe.
Grant it he was very hesitant to get into my truck
Starting to think that was just a "see, anything can happen at any time" life insurance sales pitch.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 05:23 PM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Think I better stay close again this year; focus on the deer lease, be around for family.
However, Western - I'd go easy on the details of when you're leaving and where you're headed this year. I'm not above shadowing a man on the way to his honey hole.
However, Western - I'd go easy on the details of when you're leaving and where you're headed this year. I'm not above shadowing a man on the way to his honey hole.
CR, I never minded the right "shadows", but the way I hunt may be far too easy for you too care for it LOL. I could also guarantee, you'd may be PO'd at the PH!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 05:26 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Notice I took doubleb20 last year... My truck was safe.
Grant it he was very hesitant to get into my truck
He probably had all his pockets full of good luck charms too!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 10:51 PM
Just because some of us were man enough to make our own paths through the forest while others enjoyed the comfort of defined paths...
It was good trip. I am going to try and get out to NM in the summer to practice some distance shooting at elevation...i never did post any of the pictures...
It was good trip. I am going to try and get out to NM in the summer to practice some distance shooting at elevation...i never did post any of the pictures...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 11:30 PM
You should. You had some pretty cool shots.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/09/16 11:31 PM
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I would be down for something this year!!
I bet this hunt would be right up your alley.
I'm really hoping to pull it off.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 02:43 AM
I am in...Hopefully going to do a better job working out this year leading up to it
Posted By: Rob Lay
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 02:00 PM
can someone summarize how everyone did 2015 hunt?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 02:28 PM
We put on some miles. One shot was fired, by me, but the bull was not recovered. A few days later, when we left, he was still alive. Everyone saw elk. There was just the one shot opportunity. The others were too far or not legal animals.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 03:46 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
We put on some miles. One shot was fired, by me, but the bull was not recovered. A few days later, when we left, he was still alive. Everyone saw elk. There was just the one shot opportunity. The others were too far or not legal animals.
Come on... A 1050 yard shot from one bowl to another that would require 3-5 hours to get to was not out of range...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 03:51 PM
Not for some people. It was for us, apparently.
Posted By: ChadTRG42
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 04:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I would be down for something this year!!
I bet this hunt would be right up your alley.
I'm really hoping to pull it off.
I've only hunted elk with a bow for many years. I really want to pull out the smoke pole this year!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 04:32 PM
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I would be down for something this year!!
I bet this hunt would be right up your alley.
I'm really hoping to pull it off.
I've only hunted elk with a bow for many years. I really want to pull out the smoke pole this year!
Chad, I have thought about ML for years and never gave it a go
Even know the spots I would need to be and it is almost the best of all seasons, everything considered. I have no clue why I haven't done it, maybe because I have little experience with ML and would have to start from scratch, don't know. Wonderful time of year to be in the Rockies though.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 04:44 PM
Seems to be, especially where we hunt. By 2nd most of the Quakies have dropped leaves.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 04:58 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I would be down for something this year!!
I bet this hunt would be right up your alley.
I'm really hoping to pull it off.
I've only hunted elk with a bow for many years. I really want to pull out the smoke pole this year!
Chad, I have thought about ML for years and never gave it a go
Even know the spots I would need to be and it is almost the best of all seasons, everything considered. I have no clue why I haven't done it, maybe because I have little experience with ML and would have to start from scratch, don't know. Wonderful time of year to be in the Rockies though. The limitations they put on ML's makes it interesting. But why I always put in for PP's. Never know when the old shoulder my give me issues.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 09:05 PM
Bobo if I remember correctly those restrictions only apply during muzzle loader season, not general rifle.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/10/16 09:21 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Bobo if I remember correctly those restrictions only apply during muzzle loader season, not general rifle.
Correct. Rifle or ranching for wildlife life tag no restrictions
Better start gettin in good shape! I have elk hunted on public land in colorado the past 8 years and gotten 2 cows, one bull and 2 mule deer in that time. I can tell you its not for the feint of heart. Everyone laughs at me when i say you better be in shape if you plan on gettin one but im not kidding, hiking in the rocky mountains is no joke. The past 2 years no one from our group has gotten one, its just part of the experience, when you do get one you'll be so happy you'll be doing backflips. Then...the real work starts haha. Hiking 200 lbs of elk meat on your back, back to camp is no joke. That being said I love it up there and will continue to go with my dad and friends for years to come whether i ever get another elk or not...
oh, and don't screw around with gun caliber. .30 cal or go home in my opinion. Can't tell you how many people we know that have shot and wounded animals from trying to get away with .270's and what-not. Just get a .30 cal, trust me, when you finally get an opportunity the Last thing you want to have to be concerned about is whether you have the knockdown or not...
oh, and don't screw around with gun caliber. .30 cal or go home in my opinion. Can't tell you how many people we know that have shot and wounded animals from trying to get away with .270's and what-not. Just get a .30 cal, trust me, when you finally get an opportunity the Last thing you want to have to be concerned about is whether you have the knockdown or not...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 02:00 AM
Can someone post pics of what camp looked like the past 2 years, Im in the process of deciding if I want to hunt Montana or Colorado this fall.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 03:29 AM
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Better start gettin in good shape! I have elk hunted on public land in colorado the past 8 years and gotten 2 cows, one bull and 2 mule deer in that time. I can tell you its not for the feint of heart. Everyone laughs at me when i say you better be in shape if you plan on gettin one but im not kidding, hiking in the rocky mountains is no joke. The past 2 years no one from our group has gotten one, its just part of the experience, when you do get one you'll be so happy you'll be doing backflips. Then...the real work starts haha. Hiking 200 lbs of elk meat on your back, back to camp is no joke. That being said I love it up there and will continue to go with my dad and friends for years to come whether i ever get another elk or not...
oh, and don't screw around with gun caliber. .30 cal or go home in my opinion. Can't tell you how many people we know that have shot and wounded animals from trying to get away with .270's and what-not. Just get a .30 cal, trust me, when you finally get an opportunity the Last thing you want to have to be concerned about is whether you have the knockdown or not...
oh, and don't screw around with gun caliber. .30 cal or go home in my opinion. Can't tell you how many people we know that have shot and wounded animals from trying to get away with .270's and what-not. Just get a .30 cal, trust me, when you finally get an opportunity the Last thing you want to have to be concerned about is whether you have the knockdown or not...
Think most of us had mag calibers either 7mm or 300...a few ha some smaller calibers but they were limiting themselves on distance
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 03:30 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Can someone post pics of what camp looked like the past 2 years, Im in the process of deciding if I want to hunt Montana or Colorado this fall.
most of us slept in trucks and set up a small camp for everything...
I wonder if you could get a small rv up there...but it also depends on where up there you are talking about.
There is a small town with motels and RV parks nearby
Posted By: Rob Lay
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 01:23 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
We put on some miles. One shot was fired, by me, but the bull was not recovered. A few days later, when we left, he was still alive. Everyone saw elk. There was just the one shot opportunity. The others were too far or not legal animals.
thanks, sounds good! if there was an opportunity, then it sounds better than average!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 01:28 PM
Last year also had a late "heat wave", making it much tougher, Elk where spread out pretty good.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 01:50 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Can someone post pics of what camp looked like the past 2 years, Im in the process of deciding if I want to hunt Montana or Colorado this fall.
You need one of these
http://www.jamesbaroudusa.com/products/hard-shell-tents/grand-raid-series/grand-raid-evolution/
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 03:40 PM
here are a couple of pictures of our camp from Oct. 2015
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 05:57 PM
I will still use my 270 because I never had a problem with it. Buddies were using big mags and would ruin all of the meat getting one on the ground with so many shots. when you let the air out of them they don't go far. Jack Oconner killed several with the 270. 
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 06:44 PM
Originally Posted By: bp3
I will still use my 270 because I never had a problem with it. Buddies were using big mags and would ruin all of the meat getting one on the ground with so many shots. when you let the air out of them they don't go far. Jack Oconner killed several with the 270.
.270 will kill the hell out of elk all day long, just put them in the boiler room and keep shooting until he is down, If you can make another good shot. I don't know how your buddies are "ruining all the meat" though, unless they take shots from every angle
Heart, or double lung and you only loose some rib meat. I killed one Bull with a 270 waay back when, he was just as dead with one shot as the mule deer I used the 270 for the most. IIRc, he went about 30', shot was about 200 yards, maybe less.BTW, I knew a few locals when I lived up there that have hunted for years with a 25-06, key is knowing how to use the tool and taking the best shot for YOU.
My point is, why even risk it? Just use a .30 cal and leave all doubts on the table, we all use 30-06's and .300 win mags in the biggest grain bullet we can get, which is 180. If you wound one, let me tell you they can run up hill and a lot further than you can! Good luck tracking down an elk in the rocky mountains they can run straight up-hill like its nothing. Two of my elk ive shot twice for good measure, the other i only shot once and she ran about 25 yards. Yes, im sure your ,270 is plenty powerful enough to get the job done, but do you really want to track one up hill and through the mountains? Its not fun! I like my animals to drop like a rock, especially after iv'e spent 600$ on a tag. And in MY experience, you have about 15 seconds to see the elk and make a shot, it's not like the shows on tv where you see a huge herd of elk and have 10 minutes to plan your shot. In my experience usually they see you, stop to look for about 5 seconds then haul [censored]. I don't have time to make a perfect shot, i want to aim and shoot and count on my 180 grain bullet to put that animal down if i don't make an ideal shot.
Those shows you see on tv, thats on private land! Public land hunting is totally different. I've never made a shot over 100 yards, infact all 3 of mine have been 50 yards or less.
Those shows you see on tv, thats on private land! Public land hunting is totally different. I've never made a shot over 100 yards, infact all 3 of mine have been 50 yards or less.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 07:58 PM
If you think your 300 mag is "knocking them down", I've got some bad news.
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
If you think your 300 mag is "knocking them down", I've got some bad news.
Actually i use a 30-06 and I have knocked a bull down with one shot, i shot him again for good measure though. That was at 44 yards. My dad uses a .300 and has knocked down numerous elk.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 10:42 PM
Cheese and crackers....
So, did the rifle knock you down when you fired it? You know, physics and stuff.
So, did the rifle knock you down when you fired it? You know, physics and stuff.
Posted By: Redskins4ever
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 10:44 PM
Colorado elk hunt?
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Cheese and crackers....
So, did the rifle knock you down when you fired it? You know, physics and stuff.
So, did the rifle knock you down when you fired it? You know, physics and stuff.
Are we talking about physics or elk hunting? If you want to take what i say literally and then pick it apart feel free. I see now why your signature has a picture of oscar the grouch....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 11:04 PM
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 11:08 PM
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Cheese and crackers....
So, did the rifle knock you down when you fired it? You know, physics and stuff.
So, did the rifle knock you down when you fired it? You know, physics and stuff.
Are we talking about physics or elk hunting? If you want to take what i say literally and then pick it apart feel free. I see now why your signature has a picture of oscar the grouch....
I guess you didn't read what is says under his name?? Small and hard to read, but fair warning
BTW, he is being quite nice, so far
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 11:12 PM
Dang! I have missed these posts... Glad to see 2016 Group Elh Hunt up and running!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 11:18 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
Because it's 4 digits. Everyone knows more digits is more power. Fireman 7 is like shooting spit wads
Posted By: ChrisB
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 11:45 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
I own both and I cant tell a difference in anything I have shot.
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/11/16 11:59 PM
Hey, we all know that bigger is better, just ask your.....maybe not, could be embarrassing. 
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 12:15 AM
I pity the fool with a .270!
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 03:46 AM
If I don't draw NM this year, I'd be up for 2nd season OTC.
I went for 3rd OTC over in unit 74 and ended up catching 28 inches of snow in 2 days... brrrrr
I went for 3rd OTC over in unit 74 and ended up catching 28 inches of snow in 2 days... brrrrr
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 07:36 PM
Does anyone who went last year have the gps coordinates for where your camp was located?
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
Because you can get a 180 grain (even a 200 grain) bullet in .30 cal. .270 i believe the max is like 160 grain.
Bullet grain is the size of the projectile. Bigger projectile = more knockdown power (in most cases), bigger expansion and more tissue damage, its creating a larger wound cavity and has more inertia to plow through the animal. The fps might be the same, but your firing a bigger bullet.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 07:58 PM
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
Because you can get a 180 grain (even a 200 grain) bullet in .30 cal. .270 i believe the max is like 160 grain.
Bullet grain is the size of the projectile. Bigger projectile = more knockdown power, also known as muzzle energy. The fps might be the same, but your firing a bigger bullet.
Might want to map out the math on that again.
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
Because you can get a 180 grain (even a 200 grain) bullet in .30 cal. .270 i believe the max is like 160 grain.
Bullet grain is the size of the projectile. Bigger projectile = more knockdown power, also known as muzzle energy. The fps might be the same, but your firing a bigger bullet.
Might want to map out the math on that again.
Enlighten me. Yes ill agree that a 7mag has more muzzle energy, but its a smaller wound cavity. Smaller bullet.
Look use whatever you want. There is a reason 90% of experienced elk hunters use .30 cal and up. When you spend the time effort and money to elk hunt and get maybe one opportunity in 2 or 3 years, i say use the biggest bullet you can get to ensure a quick kill. Sometimes you dont have time to line up a perfect shot.
That is all...
That is all...
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 08:05 PM
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Look use whatever you want. There is a reason 90% of experienced elk hunters use .30 cal and up. When you spend the time effort and money to elk hunt and get maybe one opportunity in 2 or 3 years, i say use the biggest bullet you can get to ensure a quick kill. Sometimes you dont have time to line up a perfect shot.
That is all...
That is all...
So a 30-30 has more knock down then a 257wby?
It's not what you hit them with where you hit them. Only way to drop an elk is via spine.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 08:09 PM
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
Because you can get a 180 grain (even a 200 grain) bullet in .30 cal. .270 i believe the max is like 160 grain.
Bullet grain is the size of the projectile. Bigger projectile = more knockdown power, also known as muzzle energy. The fps might be the same, but your firing a bigger bullet.
Might want to map out the math on that again.
Enlighten me. Yes ill agree that a 7mag has more muzzle energy, but its a smaller wound cavity. Smaller bullet.
Wound cavity it a product of bullet construction and RPM's not because of tenths of an inch in bullet diameter size.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 08:27 PM
Large diameter bullets make big holes and heavy bullets make deep holes. However, over expanded bullets may not penetrate deeply enough. The point to remember is, placement is the single most important factor in immediate incapacitation. A bullet must penetrate deeply enough to reach and damage vital organs, such as the heart. Immediate incapacitation occurs when the central nervous system is interrupted, either by contact damage or by anoxia from blood loss. Even with a punctured heart an assailant can function for about 11 seconds. (Fackler,M.L., M.D., Director, Wound Ballistics Laboratory, Letterman Army Institute of Research, Presidio, San Francisco CA. "Bullet Performance Misconceptions" International Defense Review 3, 369-370, 1987)
From wikipedia
From wikipedia
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Look use whatever you want. There is a reason 90% of experienced elk hunters use .30 cal and up. When you spend the time effort and money to elk hunt and get maybe one opportunity in 2 or 3 years, i say use the biggest bullet you can get to ensure a quick kill. Sometimes you dont have time to line up a perfect shot.
That is all...
That is all...
So a 30-30 has more knock down then a 257wby?
It's not what you hit them with where you hit them. Only way to drop an elk is via spine.
I would say inside of 25 yards yes. 30-30 has the bullet weight but not the velocity. I would bet a 180 grain 30-30 at 25 yards does more damage than a .257. Thats my opinion. I do not condone using a 30-30 on elk. I would use a 308, 30-06 or .300 mag or up. Thats my opinion based on 8 years of elk huning.
Like i said, when you have 10 seconds to make a shot sometimes you don't have time to line it up perfectly.
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Large diameter bullets make big holes and heavy bullets make deep holes. However, over expanded bullets may not penetrate deeply enough. The point to remember is, placement is the single most important factor in immediate incapacitation. A bullet must penetrate deeply enough to reach and damage vital organs, such as the heart. Immediate incapacitation occurs when the central nervous system is interrupted, either by contact damage or by anoxia from blood loss. Even with a punctured heart an assailant can function for about 11 seconds. (Fackler,M.L., M.D., Director, Wound Ballistics Laboratory, Letterman Army Institute of Research, Presidio, San Francisco CA. "Bullet Performance Misconceptions" International Defense Review 3, 369-370, 1987)
From wikipedia
From wikipedia
Couldnt agree more. This is why i say to use a heavy 180 grain or above bullet. A light bullet will expand more rapid but may not penetrate as far.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 08:49 PM
Here is my un proffesional view...
Placement is the most important factor
Bullet construction/type is the next most important factor
Finally energy on impact
I can control bullet type. I can't always control placement. I can control energy
30-30 have killed a lot of big game in this country. With the right placement any bullet could kill. A 270 in the right spot could kill an elk easily. But a 300 win will give me more flexibility if it's not an ideal placement.
Also 300 will carry enough energy to penetrate farther which extends hunting range.
Placement is the most important factor
Bullet construction/type is the next most important factor
Finally energy on impact
I can control bullet type. I can't always control placement. I can control energy
30-30 have killed a lot of big game in this country. With the right placement any bullet could kill. A 270 in the right spot could kill an elk easily. But a 300 win will give me more flexibility if it's not an ideal placement.
Also 300 will carry enough energy to penetrate farther which extends hunting range.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 08:51 PM
Also no gun can "knock down an elk". It can, with the right placement, kill an elk quickly
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 08:59 PM
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Look use whatever you want. There is a reason 90% of experienced elk hunters use .30 cal and up. When you spend the time effort and money to elk hunt and get maybe one opportunity in 2 or 3 years, i say use the biggest bullet you can get to ensure a quick kill. Sometimes you dont have time to line up a perfect shot.
That is all...
That is all...
So a 30-30 has more knock down then a 257wby?
It's not what you hit them with where you hit them. Only way to drop an elk is via spine.
my opinion based on 8 years of elk huning.
Like i said, when you have 10 seconds to make a shot sometimes you don't have time to line it up perfectly.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 09:52 PM
Guess I stirred it up. I can group better with my 270 than a 300. Go with a 338 or 458 it's all about shot placement. 
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 10:29 PM
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Look use whatever you want. There is a reason 90% of experienced elk hunters use .30 cal and up. When you spend the time effort and money to elk hunt and get maybe one opportunity in 2 or 3 years, i say use the biggest bullet you can get to ensure a quick kill. Sometimes you dont have time to line up a perfect shot.
That is all...
That is all...
I was just giving you a hard time. I actually think that the .338 caliber is just about right for elk, though I'm using a 7mm at the moment.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 10:31 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Here is my un proffesional view...
Placement is the most important factor
Bullet construction/type is the next most important factor
Finally energy on impact
I can control bullet type. I can't always control placement. I can control energy
30-30 have killed a lot of big game in this country. With the right placement any bullet could kill. A 270 in the right spot could kill an elk easily. But a 300 win will give me more flexibility if it's not an ideal placement.
Also 300 will carry enough energy to penetrate farther which extends hunting range.
Placement is the most important factor
Bullet construction/type is the next most important factor
Finally energy on impact
I can control bullet type. I can't always control placement. I can control energy
30-30 have killed a lot of big game in this country. With the right placement any bullet could kill. A 270 in the right spot could kill an elk easily. But a 300 win will give me more flexibility if it's not an ideal placement.
Also 300 will carry enough energy to penetrate farther which extends hunting range.
I agree, but I would add to that the impact velocity. It needs to meet the minimum set forth by the bullet's construction, which will limit effective range. I place that above energy, though the two do go hand in hand.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 10:32 PM
Just to further muddy the waters, I've killed several with a .17Rem.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 10:34 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Does anyone who went last year have the gps coordinates for where your camp was located?
Yes. I'll be home tomorrow, and I can pull them off my handheld. If you don't hear from me, shoot me a PM to remind me.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/12/16 10:48 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Just to further muddy the waters, I've killed several with a .17Rem.
deads dead...Only ethical min cartridge size should be 22-250.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/13/16 02:15 AM
Can please keep this on topic and not turn it into a caliber pissing contest.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/13/16 03:05 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Can please keep this on topic and not turn it into a caliber pissing contest.
Just a heads up. These threads rarely stay on topic.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/13/16 03:12 AM
Oh I know, its just really early for it to begin.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/13/16 10:52 AM
My 260 Rem dropped a cow elk two weeks ago. She fell right where she stood once i put that little round between her eyes. And this is the same rifle I took to CO on the 15 hunt with all these great guys. Probably should use a larger round if I want to put some distance between myself and any elk I wish to bring down. I might take my 338 win mag this year, or not. Like all have said, placement is where it is at!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/13/16 01:46 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: deftsound
Look use whatever you want. There is a reason 90% of experienced elk hunters use .30 cal and up. When you spend the time effort and money to elk hunt and get maybe one opportunity in 2 or 3 years, i say use the biggest bullet you can get to ensure a quick kill. Sometimes you dont have time to line up a perfect shot.
That is all...
That is all...
So a 30-30 has more knock down then a 257wby?
It's not what you hit them with where you hit them. Only way to drop an elk is via spine.
my opinion based on 8 years of elk huning.
Like i said, when you have 10 seconds to make a shot sometimes you don't have time to line it up perfectly.
What BOBO said
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/13/16 02:06 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Oh I know, its just really early for it to begin.
Fyi they been camping at 9500.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/14/16 05:15 PM
Put me in the "maybe" category as well. I joined the 2014 trip and had a blast. Well, technically we didn't "blast" anything, so maybe a different word.
I have a yearly meeting in October that I can't miss, so it all depends on the season dates and what I hear from work (I will usually know by May). If the 2nd season dates don't work, I may try to make a trip for 3rd season and will see if there is anyone else interested. I believe there are OTC licenses for the same area for 3rd season.
I have a yearly meeting in October that I can't miss, so it all depends on the season dates and what I hear from work (I will usually know by May). If the 2nd season dates don't work, I may try to make a trip for 3rd season and will see if there is anyone else interested. I believe there are OTC licenses for the same area for 3rd season.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 12:29 AM
Yes I believe there are OTC tags in season 3, there should be more snow also. We didn't have much snow last year during second season to move the herd down to us. I am thinking about applying for a cow tag.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 12:58 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Does anyone who went last year have the gps coordinates for where your camp was located?
37.6217000°, -108.2131500°
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 01:15 AM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Yes I believe there are OTC tags in season 3, there should be more snow also. We didn't have much snow last year during second season to move the herd down to us. I am thinking about applying for a cow tag.
Shouldn't have a problem killing one if you can get a tag.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 01:38 AM
Right, you and I saw what, 5 that one day? Sat and watched them most all day waiting on that dang bull!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 02:09 AM
Yes, and we saw them the following day, as well, and I think everyone saw cows at some point.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 02:33 AM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Yes I believe there are OTC tags in season 3, there should be more snow also. We didn't have much snow last year during second season to move the herd down to us. I am thinking about applying for a cow tag.
No snow in second season for 2014 too. Makes me think maybe third will be the way to go. Of course, the year I change seasons will be the year of the early blizzard and banner second season harvest.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 02:34 AM
But shouldn't we get back to that caliper discussion? I really feel like we were making some progress.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 02:02 PM
yep, the 2nd season of '15 was a wet, nasty motorscooter! Started raining on opening day (Sat.) and rained virtually every day thru the end of that week (Fri). Made for some not so perfect hiking conditions, rain gear on/off/on/off/etc. There were few snow flurries, ice fog, sleet, but mostly rain. Lows in the upper 30s to low 40s, highs in the upper 40s to low 50s with some of the snow sticking up higher where I spent most of my time (flatter walking) around 10,000'. We camped around 7800' and hunted up to ~10,500. This was the earliest I had ever been elk hunting, as we used to always hunt the later season but you can run into the chance of some really nasty weather then too.
I agree with the others that went, it was a fun time, good fellowship, some comic relief, poking in good fun (for the most part), everyone saw elk but with the temps & weather, the larger herd(s) hadn't pushed that far down, so we were basically hunting the resident elk that had already been stirred up from the 1st season the previous week.
my best advice, start now getting in shape if you are remotely thinking of going! I started in the June timeframe and worked my way up to covering about 10 miles per day walking ... but I am around 600-900' above sea level. Our first day, the crew I was with (ZK-315 & JSimms) covered 13.7 miles all of which was in the 9500-10000' above sea level along with a 30-40 lb pack plus rifle. We all removed as much weight as possible from our packs before day 2 needless to say.
As I used to tell my FIL when we came back empty handed and he was so disappointed, "Hey, we got to see some beautiful country, good food, fellowship out in what God provided us ... we got our cake, just no icing this trip!"
I agree with the others that went, it was a fun time, good fellowship, some comic relief, poking in good fun (for the most part), everyone saw elk but with the temps & weather, the larger herd(s) hadn't pushed that far down, so we were basically hunting the resident elk that had already been stirred up from the 1st season the previous week.
my best advice, start now getting in shape if you are remotely thinking of going! I started in the June timeframe and worked my way up to covering about 10 miles per day walking ... but I am around 600-900' above sea level. Our first day, the crew I was with (ZK-315 & JSimms) covered 13.7 miles all of which was in the 9500-10000' above sea level along with a 30-40 lb pack plus rifle. We all removed as much weight as possible from our packs before day 2 needless to say.
As I used to tell my FIL when we came back empty handed and he was so disappointed, "Hey, we got to see some beautiful country, good food, fellowship out in what God provided us ... we got our cake, just no icing this trip!"
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 02:12 PM
I sure was glad to have good rain gear that was easy to put on and take off. It was a mess.
I slacked off all winter, but I resumed my workouts yesterday. I'm a little sore today, but it feels good.
I slacked off all winter, but I resumed my workouts yesterday. I'm a little sore today, but it feels good.
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 03:03 PM
Did most of you put in for a drawing or buy over the counter tags?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 04:36 PM
They went 2nd season when it is OTC.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 04:37 PM
we were all OTC for bulls ...
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 09:00 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I sure was glad to have good rain gear that was easy to put on and take off. It was a mess.
I slacked off all winter, but I resumed my workouts yesterday. I'm a little sore today, but it feels good.
I slacked off all winter, but I resumed my workouts yesterday. I'm a little sore today, but it feels good.
About the same here. I think eventually going to order one of those work out masks to simulate alititude to help train.
I was on the real mountain crew and although we were only walking 1-1.5 miles it was 1000 feet or so of elevation. Made going up a pain but going down easy.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 09:22 PM
This is going to be tough, Im now trying to decide whether I should bring a travel trailer and sleep well at night and have a shower, or bring a UTV for easier transportation. And I have never towed a double trailer before so I dont think this is the time to try that one.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 09:36 PM
Utv can not be used in a lot of areas, most I think. But more edumacted will be on long to clearify
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 09:38 PM
Also depending on where we camp, getting flat ground may be hard as well
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 09:45 PM
Correct Cleric. UTVs and ATV can only stay on the roads where we were last year. I think there was only one day that a utv/atv would have been handy and that was when PMK, Sneaky and I ventured over to a different mountain. There was one road I was a bit skeptical to take my truck on so we turned around. It wasn't necessarily the terrain, but a combo of the terrain and tight trees.
Where we hunted, we drove the truck right up to where the main trail heads started, and took off on foot.
Where we hunted, we drove the truck right up to where the main trail heads started, and took off on foot.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 09:46 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Seems to be, especially where we hunt. By 2nd most of the Quakies have dropped leaves.
But I thought those were called "shimmering aspens"?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 10:02 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Seems to be, especially where we hunt. By 2nd most of the Quakies have dropped leaves.
But I thought those were called "shimmering aspens"?
Some people do...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 10:10 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Seems to be, especially where we hunt. By 2nd most of the Quakies have dropped leaves.
But I thought those were called "shimmering aspens"?
Haha! They are these days.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 10:36 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Seems to be, especially where we hunt. By 2nd most of the Quakies have dropped leaves.
But I thought those were called "shimmering aspens"?
So who was the dendrology guide on the trip?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 10:51 PM
Good ole Cleric himself. I will give him credit, he is a wealth of knowledge
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 11:14 PM
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/15/16 11:18 PM
I tend to agree with no real need for a UTV/ATV unless it were to be really bad weather ... and I wouldn't want to ride in one of those up some of those narrow forest roads with a several hundred foot drop a few inches off the road if there was ice/snow and slippage ... ... a truck wouldn't be much better, but at least it's enclosed. I think you could go pretty much anywhere you wanted with a 4wd truck with decent traction type tires, again, unless it was really bad.
... a truck wouldn't be much better, but at least it's enclosed. I think you could go pretty much anywhere you wanted with a 4wd truck with decent traction type tires, again, unless it was really bad.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 12:18 AM
Oh my, I had forgotten about the "shimmering aspens!"
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 12:23 AM
There were a lot of them....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 12:32 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
There were a lot of them....
I never really noticed the shimmering part until you pointed it out.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 12:39 AM
Im leaning more towards the travel trailer, from the topo maps Im looking at I should be able to get it in there as its only a 21ft I believe.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 12:40 AM
I am looking at a cow tag and taking my son with me this time. I know a few of us had talked about bringing kids this year, looking at CO website and they have to be 12 to be able to hunt. If I am able to get drawn for a cow tag, and my son came we could do either a bull or a cow. Doubt we would try for both even though we could. I will be bringing my camper this time though, small pop up will be more than comfortable enough. I agree that an ATV/UTV would be a waste of time to drag up there.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 12:45 AM
I wouldn't want to try and take a travel trailer up to the top, it is way different than you see on the topo map. I do highly recommend a high quality GPS and the sd card with boundaries and topo lines. ZK and PMK went to town and bought one after they got lost for a few hours. And a higher quality GPS is a must, some of the lower end ones didn't pick up signals very well.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:00 AM
I already have the GPS covered with my garmin Alpha.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:22 AM
I think a travel trailer would be hard... I am no expert on rvs but the lack of clearance and flat ground could be hard. I think if you wanted to rv it, see about getting a spot at a local rv park.
We had 5-7 trucks in our area and it was a bit tight imo
Unless something major happens I am going again this year. Need to get some blood on my bag instead of someone's dip
We had 5-7 trucks in our area and it was a bit tight imo
Unless something major happens I am going again this year. Need to get some blood on my bag instead of someone's dip
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:27 AM
Is putting up a tent at least possible in case I decide not to bring the camper, as sleeping in my truck for the whole season doesnt sound like much fun at all.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:47 AM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
I wouldn't want to try and take a travel trailer up to the top, it is way different than you see on the topo map. I do highly recommend a high quality GPS and the sd card with boundaries and topo lines. ZK and PMK went to town and bought one after they got lost for a few hours. And a higher quality GPS is a must, some of the lower end ones didn't pick up signals very well.
Nothing wrong with the classic units if you know how to use them. Have to be a skilled operator.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:47 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I think a travel trailer would be hard... I am no expert on rvs but the lack of clearance and flat ground could be hard. I think if you wanted to rv it, see about getting a spot at a local rv park.
We had 5-7 trucks in our area and it was a bit tight imo
Unless something major happens I am going again this year. Need to get some blood on my bag instead of someone's dip
We had 5-7 trucks in our area and it was a bit tight imo
Unless something major happens I am going again this year. Need to get some blood on my bag instead of someone's dip
Someone had to break that pack in for you.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:51 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Is putting up a tent at least possible in case I decide not to bring the camper, as sleeping in my truck for the whole season doesnt sound like much fun at all.
A camper is possible, though a tight fit. A tent would be fine. Our spot isn't the flattest, overall, but there are enough flat spots to get it done. What it lacks in campability, it makes up for in location. I wouldn't trade that spot for anything, although the group could choose to camp elsewhere.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:57 AM
A tent would not be too bad if you get a good warm one. Nights get pretty cold there. I slept in the back of my Excursion and it was fine, but I think this year I will take my small pop up camper. We camped out at the entrance to the park this past year and it was pretty good, but not very level. Up at the top it is nice and level but the ground is very gooey, especially after a week of hunters driving across it.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 02:00 AM
I thought our spot this past year was great, it was a bit lacking in level ground but it was warmer and drier than those camping on top. Not to mention it was close to town for us to run in if we needed to.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 02:21 AM
There just isn't a better spot, for that area, as far as location and proximity to the areas we hunt, town, etc. It's right in the middle. When you have to wake up early, you're tired and sore, a long drive just adds to that. A couple days into it, you don't care if you have the best camping spot. You care about making it as easy as possible to drag what's left of your carcass up the mountain. That's how I feel about it, anyway. And that spot isn't bad at all. It's just not as nice as spots up higher. That drive just wears me out. The driving we did last year was great.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 05:02 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: Cleric
There were a lot of them....
I never really noticed the shimmering part until you pointed it out.
Are you sure it wasn't glistening?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 06:31 AM
Would you prefer sparkly?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 07:48 AM
Oh no, "shimmering" describes them (and Cleric) perfectly!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 01:47 PM
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 02:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Would you prefer sparkly?
Would prefer "deer infested timber"
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/16/16 03:48 PM
there were campers and RVs up on top, lots of horse trailers too. The main road in should be fine under most conditions, heavy snow or ice would change that up really quick mainly due to the shear drop off right beside the road.
Where we camped in '15 was very conveniently located for the various hunts as some went 10-15 minutes to a trailhead at the bottom and hiked up into bowls ... where others (like myself) drove 30-45 minutes up the main road, off onto a less traveled forest road to the end where there was a trail head but much easier and flatter hiking back to the top side of bowls (5ish miles). We could all leave about the same time (give or take) and get to where we were hunting about day break. The top group would usually plan on getting to the trail head on top about day break, so we could hunt on our way in. As others have stated, our campsite wasn't very level, but you can see from the picture I posted earlier in the thread it's doable.
Where we camped in '15 was very conveniently located for the various hunts as some went 10-15 minutes to a trailhead at the bottom and hiked up into bowls ... where others (like myself) drove 30-45 minutes up the main road, off onto a less traveled forest road to the end where there was a trail head but much easier and flatter hiking back to the top side of bowls (5ish miles). We could all leave about the same time (give or take) and get to where we were hunting about day break. The top group would usually plan on getting to the trail head on top about day break, so we could hunt on our way in. As others have stated, our campsite wasn't very level, but you can see from the picture I posted earlier in the thread it's doable.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/17/16 03:45 AM
I have the time off and am in for sure as of now. Went on the inaugural excursion in '14 and had a blast. Hope the "oil bidness" picks back up assp so you guys who went before can join us. Seeing a lot of good hard working folks struggle right now. Prayers are with you all that things might stabilize or turn around for you all.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/17/16 04:04 AM
Well OPEC agreed to freeze production, should have reduced it but.....that is another story. The rig I am on right now will be scrapped here in the next few weeks and the majority of guys are getting laid off. Was tough to see the helicopter leave today knowing that 90% of those guys don't have a job tomorrow. I am still working and have somewhere to go when I leave here, but it has been tough on plenty. I truly hope it will be ok for all the oil workers, and I hope to see loads of people on this years hunt.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/17/16 12:15 PM
Got my new DOW hunting regs book in the mail over the weekend, haven't went through it yet, but if you fellas want one in hand, good to order yourself one on the DOW site early.
Posted By: BANDIT_DOC
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/17/16 11:50 PM
I dont know much about a group elk hunt but I do know I'll be in Northern Colorado all of September for archery season! Let me know if any of you are going to be up there for sure.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 01:59 AM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: Cleric
There were a lot of them....
I never really noticed the shimmering part until you pointed it out.
Are you sure it wasn't glistening?
You boys are starting to worry me.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 05:19 AM
A.B., you're late. Most people started that a long time ago.
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 01:36 PM
All of them boys are wrong....the actual name is "Quaking aspen."
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 02:33 PM
Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
All of them boys are wrong....the actual name is "Quaking aspen."
You're crazy.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 02:38 PM
They be quakies.
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 03:31 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
All of them boys are wrong....the actual name is "Quaking aspen."
You're crazy.
Nope, look it up.
Quaking aspen (Populus tremuloides) is the most widely distributed tree in North America. It is known by many names: trembling aspen, golden aspen, mountain aspen, popple, poplar, trembling poplar, and in Spanish, álamo blanco, and álamo temblón
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 03:46 PM
They forgot shimmering. I wouldn't consider that a credible source.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 05:04 PM
http://moby1trailers.com/moby1-xc/
Something like one of these look like it would make for comfortable sleeping while hunting in the mountains, plus it doesnt apprear to take up much room or need really level ground.
Something like one of these look like it would make for comfortable sleeping while hunting in the mountains, plus it doesnt apprear to take up much room or need really level ground.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 05:22 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
They forgot shimmering. I wouldn't consider that a credible source.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 05:25 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
http://moby1trailers.com/moby1-xc/
Something like one of these look like it would make for comfortable sleeping while hunting in the mountains, plus it doesnt apprear to take up much room or need really level ground.
Something like one of these look like it would make for comfortable sleeping while hunting in the mountains, plus it doesnt apprear to take up much room or need really level ground.
Did you see what they want for that little thing? You can get an actual camper, with shower and all, for less than that.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 05:26 PM
I can't confirm what type of quakies those are. I can't see the leaves.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 05:34 PM
no leaf/continental divide quakies @ 11K' in Nov.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 06:20 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
http://moby1trailers.com/moby1-xc/
Something like one of these look like it would make for comfortable sleeping while hunting in the mountains, plus it doesnt apprear to take up much room or need really level ground.
Something like one of these look like it would make for comfortable sleeping while hunting in the mountains, plus it doesnt apprear to take up much room or need really level ground.
There are a variety of Those. You can get them less the 8k with less features. For that much I will get an rv. It would be nice if someone had one. Depending on group size we may need a bigger campsite
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 06:46 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
no leaf/continental divide quakies @ 11K' in Nov.
Ah, the too high quakies.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 07:03 PM
Sneaky, I know they are really expensive, but I think I could build something like it for 2-3k if its just a enclosed sleeping space with a mattress. Something along the lines of a 5x9 utility trailer with a removable sleeping pod made of metal that can be dropped into it and bolted down. Or a old military m105 I think they are with the bed removed and a sleeping pod attached to it.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 07:14 PM
cmorsch, yes, you could easily take a 5x8 or 5x10 flatbed trailer and build a box for much less.
Heck, for $2k, I will make you a even better deal. If you look at the pictures I posted of last year's camp, the pop-up cabover camper ZK-315 and I took, worked like a charm (we had it on a 16') ... it is for sale (although not listed anywhere yet) and I have a 5x10 Tophat brand tilt trailer that is for sale (not listed anywhere yet either). I'll make you a deal on those two combined ready to roll ... I bought that cabover specifically for our trip last Oct. and really don't had any other need for it.
Heck, for $2k, I will make you a even better deal. If you look at the pictures I posted of last year's camp, the pop-up cabover camper ZK-315 and I took, worked like a charm (we had it on a 16') ... it is for sale (although not listed anywhere yet) and I have a 5x10 Tophat brand tilt trailer that is for sale (not listed anywhere yet either). I'll make you a deal on those two combined ready to roll
... I bought that cabover specifically for our trip last Oct. and really don't had any other need for it.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 07:35 PM
PMK, thanks for the offer. But that is bigger then what I would be building if I decide to do so. If I do build its going to be pretty much a enclosed sleeping area to keep weight down so it can also be pulled by my UTV or any other vehicle for that matter that I may own at somepoint like a jeep, so total weight would be under 2k lbs. Still tossing ideas around in my head as Im not a huge fan of sleeping on the ground or in my truck for the whole season. That just gets miserable after a while.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 09:46 PM
I would think this set up would be about 2k lbs camper & 5x10 trailer, maybe slightly more ... and should be tow-able with a UTV or small SUV. I towed it with my Kubota RTV when it was on the much heavier 16' trailer with ease. Just makes it convenient to get to where you are going, crank up the top, has heater, stove top ... if you have a generator, fridge & AC. Sleeps 2 grown 6'+ tall men (one in the over the cab bed and one in the fold down dinette)... Heck, you could put it in your truck bed and not worry about dragging a trailer. Drop it out of the truck bed with the jacks at your camp location in a few minutes, leaves your truck for hunting.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 10:14 PM
Hmm, Ill have to give it some thought, could you PM some more info on the pop up camper so I can do some more research on it.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/18/16 10:37 PM
PM sent with a bunch of pictures.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 11:21 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: rifleman
no leaf/continental divide quakies @ 11K' in Nov.
Ah, the too high quakies.
Well Sneaky, it is pot approved Colorado after all, geez man
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 01:16 PM
True. Maybe we should get on board with that. I'm sure my employer would understand.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 01:25 PM
I'll pass, but if you give it a go, make sure you carry 2 "cups" for the samples!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 02:40 PM
Stop in Alamosa at the green building like the rest of the TX plate trucks.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 03:04 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Stop in Alamosa at the green building like the rest of the TX plate trucks.
Noticed that, too, did ya?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 03:11 PM
yep..if I wasn't so judgmental I'd just figure they wanted to see what the inside of one of those places looked like.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 03:37 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Stop in Alamosa at the green building like the rest of the TX plate trucks.
Noticed that, too, did ya?
Bet you $5 he can tell you what the inside color is too, darn tourist SMH
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/19/16 03:49 PM
Not I....keep a tight schedule on my trips. Pull in to Gunny at 11:00 after slow rolling the last 40 miles looking for animals, unload and unhook at the cabin...head to the steak house for steak and fried eggs, then it's time head out to look until dark.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 12:28 AM
Several friends are skiing in CO right now, I am pretty sure none of them bought anything (as they are all fire and EMS types) but they all took pics at the little green buildings!
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 01:19 AM
If you have a 2017 elk hunt I am there. Can't do 2016, boys Sr. season, so have to stay close. Until then I will live through you fellas.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 01:49 AM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
If you have a 2017 elk hunt I am there. Can't do 2016, boys Sr. season, so have to stay close. Until then I will live through you fellas.
Looking forward to that, A. B.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 02:09 AM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
If you have a 2017 elk hunt I am there. Can't do 2016, boys Sr. season, so have to stay close. Until then I will live through you fellas.
Plan to make it a yearly thing for me
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 02:19 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: A.B.
If you have a 2017 elk hunt I am there. Can't do 2016, boys Sr. season, so have to stay close. Until then I will live through you fellas.
Plan to make it a yearly thing for me
Will be soon for me. Last elk I killed was in 1997. Time to get back to it.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 02:29 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: A.B.
If you have a 2017 elk hunt I am there. Can't do 2016, boys Sr. season, so have to stay close. Until then I will live through you fellas.
Plan to make it a yearly thing for me
Me too! I look forward to seeing as many of last years group who can make it. Those that can't, well we will make fun of you around the camp fire!
Hopefully none of the trash we burn this year has any bullets in it! Chief Joe and I nearly soiled ourselves when that round went off!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 03:33 AM
If chief Joe does not join us...I shall take up his cause and bring a gallon of gas....to "help" the fire...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 04:19 AM
Cheap road flares work a whole lot better for starting fires
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 11:54 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Cheap road flares work a whole lot better for starting fires
The fire was already going in most cases...
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/20/16 11:56 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Cheap road flares work a whole lot better for starting fires
Where's the excitement in that?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/21/16 10:50 AM
So the other day I was looking in my pack from the hunt (my wife had looked in it for my GPS) and several items are missing. After my wife went in it, she didn't put it back up high were I had it, so pretty sure the emergency food went to the dogs. Not sure if I put my ax back in it after rescuing Sneaky's ax from that log that wouldn't let it go. 
And a few other minor items that I was not too concerned with or wanted to replace anyway. But either way, I will be slowly shopping for new stuff that I like better or will work better (including a new pack, hint hint Chief Joe!) I don't have the "list" on this computer, but either I will or I am sure Sneaky will re-post the recommended (but not complete) list of supplies for anyone new thinking of going. A good pack is high on my list of need to buy items for this coming year.
Not sure if I put my ax back in it after rescuing Sneaky's ax from that log that wouldn't let it go. And a few other minor items that I was not too concerned with or wanted to replace anyway. But either way, I will be slowly shopping for new stuff that I like better or will work better (including a new pack, hint hint Chief Joe!) I don't have the "list" on this computer, but either I will or I am sure Sneaky will re-post the recommended (but not complete) list of supplies for anyone new thinking of going. A good pack is high on my list of need to buy items for this coming year.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/21/16 02:40 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Not sure if I put my ax back in it after rescuing Sneaky's ax from that log that wouldn't let it go. And a few other minor items that I was not too concerned with or wanted to replace anyway.
And a few other minor items that I was not too concerned with or wanted to replace anyway.I had time after everyone was gone, while waiting for Jared to finish up to police the camp. I don't think anything was left behind. Course your ax handle was wood!
And while I may not ever get a chance to use that pack again, selling it would be a blow to my otherwise deflated manhood!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/22/16 07:49 PM
I really hope I get to make it again this year. I would also like to make it a yearly trip. Just trying to sweet talk the lady into it is the difficult part, but I may have some tricks up my sleeve for her.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/22/16 07:57 PM
I no longer have to talk mine into it. Apparently, my behavior is such that when I don't go, she'd rather I was gone for a week, instead.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/22/16 09:45 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I no longer have to talk mine into it. Apparently, my behavior is such that when I don't go, she'd rather I was gone for a week, instead.
Come hunting time my wife would rather be go than stay...
I am debating buying a smaller bag and going on a hardcore stream lining operation. I could leave my big bag in the truck. Than just grab it after I shoot an elk.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/22/16 10:52 PM
As light as that exo is you might save 8oz
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 12:18 AM
Ill have 2 packs with me, my Eberlestock J107M, and a Camelbak Ranger. I really like the scabbard in the Eberlestock as my rifles are all 12+ lbs last time I checked.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 12:33 AM
It was mostly about limiting my space to put junk
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:31 AM
After last year, I definitely want a pack with a scabbard. I had an external frame pack that was usable but not very practical, oh well, I gave $10 for it at a flea market. I now know more of what I want instead of buying a high dollar one and it being wrong too.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 02:05 PM
I went back and forth on the scabbard idea. Ultimately it add weight to the bag and is not always to pull the gun in and out. If I just show some restraint with my exo I will use it because it's comfortable and light
Exo has a new sling mount for guns attaches to the outside of the bag. The only time i would put my gun in there is on the walk in and out
Exo has a new sling mount for guns attaches to the outside of the bag. The only time i would put my gun in there is on the walk in and out
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:03 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Ill have 2 packs with me, my Eberlestock J107M, and a Camelbak Ranger. I really like the scabbard in the Eberlestock as my rifles are all 12+ lbs last time I checked.
Putting it right up against your back makes it seem a lot lighter than attached to the back or side of the pack and giving it some leverage further away from your core. I use a gunrunner and it comes in real handy bc it's quicker access than slinging a rifle across my back. The last deer I shot, I never would've had time to get a rifle unstrapped from some of the scabbard systems...those 2 flushed like some quail heading straight to private.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:13 PM
I like eberle but there bags are heavy and i find there frame lacking. For lighter/smaller bags like the x3 it's not an issue. But the bigger bags gets cumbersome.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:26 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
It was mostly about limiting my space to put junk
The old gear fairy.
Thinking he will be coming out with a day bag this year. Couple guys have bought the hill people Gear tarahumara and are running it on an exo frame think it's right at 900 or 1000 cu in
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:28 PM
I asked them about that last year and got the feeling they were looking at it or designing one.
I really want to strip my bag down in weight. After understanding the conditions better I think I can pack better.
I really want to strip my bag down in weight. After understanding the conditions better I think I can pack better.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:33 PM
Even after stripping my pack down after day 1 last year, it was still too heavy Day 1 kicked our groups arse.
Day 1 kicked our groups arse.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:39 PM
Good news is you can cinch the 3500 bag pretty tight and stream line.
I made couple little pull outs.
Makes me keep it simple
One medical, one (batteries, survival, headlamp, water filter), one rain gear. One small miscellaneous.
I made couple little pull outs.
Makes me keep it simple
One medical, one (batteries, survival, headlamp, water filter), one rain gear. One small miscellaneous.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:41 PM
I have first hand evidence that we are within a few hours of camp. I am wondering how much survival gear is actually needed
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:45 PM
Not too much...just get/rent 2 sat phones. It makes the pack out job easier too bc inevitably someone will want to see a dead elk.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:50 PM
I would consider buying gotenna instead if renting sat phones.
Oddly enough I get great service on the top of the mountain
Oddly enough I get great service on the top of the mountain
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:52 PM
It's who you need to get in touch with that you need to be sure about.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 03:58 PM
Exactly what rifleman said...we did NOT have service 95% of the time on the mountain and we were on the very top most of the time. On rare occasions if we were in the wide open, we might have 1 bar of service and thank God I found that 1 bar when we got lost.
The heaviest items we had in our pack, we couldn't ditch unfortunately. We carried quite a bit of water with us, and normally used the majority of it.
The heaviest items we had in our pack, we couldn't ditch unfortunately. We carried quite a bit of water with us, and normally used the majority of it.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:10 PM
I had service all over the top of the mountain... Odd
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:12 PM
My dad, jsims, and I all had issues with service. We all have at&t. There were certain spots we could get a couple of bars, but the majority of time we didn't have squat. Airplane mode played a big roll in our days
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:24 PM
FYI Garmin bought Delorme... look for a cool Garmin inreach device in the future
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I have first hand evidence that we are within a few hours of camp. I am wondering how much survival gear is actually needed
I was not with your group, but NEVER take out survival gear. I was with a group and only walked 300 yards from the truck to a ridge to glass a meadow one evening just before dark. I was in Taylor Park north of Gunnison. Being so close to the truck, I did not take my pack at all. It started snowing and with in 3 minutes it was a complete white out and then dark fell before it stop snowing. i never found my way back to the truck. I did come across a stream that I knew went back to the cabin, so I followed it and 7 hours later I made it back. I was so cold that I could not turn the door handle, so I sat down banged the door with my elbow. Some one answered it. The rest of my group were out looking for me. I was blessed to make it back.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:36 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
My dad, jsims, and I all had issues with service. We all have at&t. There were certain spots we could get a couple of bars, but the majority of time we didn't have squat. Airplane mode played a big roll in our days
A lot of folks up there have Sprint...if they come to my hood they won't have signal for squat.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:43 PM
Exactly why I don't have sprint lol. Sprint sucks from what I've gathered.
After we got lost, we went and got a good GPS and pinpointed people in our group on the map. By the time we got the gps though, we pretty much knew were we were going each day. go figure...
After we got lost, we went and got a good GPS and pinpointed people in our group on the map. By the time we got the gps though, we pretty much knew were we were going each day. go figure...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 04:46 PM
Scary stuff Mr. T. Glad you got back fairly safe.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 05:24 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Even after stripping my pack down after day 1 last year, it was still too heavy Day 1 kicked our groups arse.
Day 1 kicked our groups arse. That is what I was trying to tell y'all last year, 10oz feels like 10 lbs after 10 miles. I take only what I need to take care of an elk, small rations and misc, crap. I try to keep water as my heaviest item and that is usually 3-16oz bottles. Figure the rest is what camp is for.
I once knew two young bow hunters that went in bare bones, enough food and gear to shadow the elk. They stayed on foot until they killed, or got wore out. They took a small single man tent each and a bit more trail food, but very basic.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 05:38 PM
With all the water proof down now a days you aren't sacrificing much adding a high count puffy and or quilt to your bag
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 06:48 PM
I kept trying to tell them they didn't need all that stuff ... but by the end of day 1 and 13.7 miles later, I went thru my small pack too and found not 1, but 2 full boxes of shells tucked away in one of the side pockets that I unloaded. I would normally carry a 72 oz camel back water bladder and two 16 oz bottles of water, by the end of the day that was all gone.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/23/16 11:46 PM
Cleric exo just announced a 2k bag today
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/24/16 12:32 AM
Just saw that. Came to revel in your connectedness or foresight
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/24/16 12:57 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Just saw that. Came to revel in your connectedness or foresight
Ive only asked him three times
He said this year, but I didn't figure this soon.
I'll be ordering one
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/24/16 01:00 AM
I am going to wait and see price. I am not sure if I will get pack and swap frame or two separate bags. If I have two bags I could loan one out
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/24/16 04:17 AM
I really like the just one pack, and think that is what I am leaning toward. Isn't that what you had on last years trip Cleric?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/24/16 05:08 AM
I had the exo 3500. Really liked it. I will be interested in the pricing on the 2000 one recently announced
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 02/24/16 01:12 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Scary stuff Mr. T. Glad you got back fairly safe.
I agree. And a incapacitating injury to you when no one knows where you are or when to expect you might make a guy real happy he packed in some emergency gear. Maybe even some gasoline for a signal fire (just kidding)
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 05:24 PM
Has anyone started a list of people who are thinking about going? Or decided on a group leader?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 06:24 PM
Sneaky is the de facto leader. I think he is waiting till closer to make a decision on going. Most people in the 2015 people are in the same place. I am about the only that's for sure (and all things can change)
There is really not much prep that has to happen. Sneaky had posted a gear list. Have what you need and be ready to go. Only thing we need to know is who is first and can secure camp site
There is really not much prep that has to happen. Sneaky had posted a gear list. Have what you need and be ready to go. Only thing we need to know is who is first and can secure camp site
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 07:17 PM
I am a for sure as well as I do already have the time off to go. The only thing that may stop me is a work conference that same week. I'll know more as time approaches but as for now I am going.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 07:40 PM
about the only long lead thing is getting is shape, start 3+ months in advance. That in itself can be killer without proper preparation!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 08:37 PM
Hell I am trying now to lose weight so I can train for this in a few months
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 08:42 PM
You might take a pocket knife to that stock Cleric. It might shed a few pounds.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 09:51 PM
Not sure an eh 1 can get lighter...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 09:56 PM
just giving a hard time. Did you ever weigh your rifle?
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/17/16 10:24 PM
Elk hunting and this great group quickly get in your blood. I regret not being able to go and know this will only get worse as October closes in. If you have a desire and opportunity I sure recommend you go.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 01:48 AM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
just giving a hard time. Did you ever weigh your rifle?i am afraid to
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK
ZK
Ringworm
cmorsch
Posted By: jasons
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 02:09 AM
My brother and I may be up there hunting. He has been doing research on different units, and is planning a trip up there this summer to scout around. Ill try to find out what areas he is looking at, and see how close it is to yall. We were looking at bow season, but I think we may be switching over to gun. I can legally crossbow hunt there, but he cant. We are only looking at one tag though, afraid we cant physically pack out more than elk if we got two. Plus it being our first time, will be lucky to get one anyways.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 02:11 AM
Originally Posted By: jasons
My brother and I may be up there hunting. He has been doing research on different units, and is planning a trip up there this summer to scout around. Ill try to find out what areas he is looking at, and see how close it is to yall. We were looking at bow season, but I think we may be switching over to gun. I can legally crossbow hunt there, but he cant. We are only looking at one tag though, afraid we cant physically pack out more than elk if we got two. Plus it being our first time, will be lucky to get one anyways.
I would be Leary of having a crossbow and no tag out there...
Posted By: jasons
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 02:19 AM
I never said anything about not getting a tag. If We were to cross bow, there would only be one tag, one crossbow and me with it. He would not have his crossbow, he would be there helping me carry/track, ect. I actually have arm impairment, so would qualify for crossbow.
I am trying to talk him into going gun season and us both getting tags-incase one gets a chance when other isn't around. Plus, I think we might be lucky to see Elk, let alone get close enough to hit with bow.
I am trying to talk him into going gun season and us both getting tags-incase one gets a chance when other isn't around. Plus, I think we might be lucky to see Elk, let alone get close enough to hit with bow.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 03:42 PM
I let my deer lease go, so that helps my chances a lot. I may be hiring on with a different outfit that has steadier work, too. So, I'm thinking there's a decent chance I can make it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 03:54 PM
Sorry to hear about your lease Sneaky, but you still have dove hunting at the house. I haven't had a lease since 2004 or so, just hunt my 15 acres. Miss the turkey hunting, but sure makes the Elk trip extra nice. You'll get there if you can get the time off, you have all you need other than the tag
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 03:55 PM
I'm really hoping to be in. As of right now, the boss lady (wife) says no, but I'm working on that. As for work, they are super relaxed on vacay, so the woman is the problem. lol
As for work, they are super relaxed on vacay, so the woman is the problem. lol
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 07:48 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
I'm really hoping to be in. As of right now, the boss lady (wife) says no, but I'm working on that. As for work, they are super relaxed on vacay, so the woman is the problem. lol
As for work, they are super relaxed on vacay, so the woman is the problem. lol you might also have a little one making waves in your plan too ...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/18/16 08:10 PM
True True. They make backpacks for kids
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/20/16 12:39 PM
sorry did not read it all, are you talking CO. or NM. have hunted both with rifle, bow, smoke pole. I would like to go was even thinking of going it alone in the NM draw.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/23/16 03:43 AM
Hey Cleric, you can add me to that list too! As of right now I am still planning on going. I just hope work keeps fairly steady. We are actually pretty busy compared to other people in our oil related industry. I am heading to Israel on Monday for a short trip.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/26/16 07:00 PM
Did anyone bring a small generator last year to charge electronics?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/26/16 09:51 PM
We charged phones with the campfire, as I recall.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/27/16 12:15 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
just giving a hard time. Did you ever weigh your rifle?i am afraid to
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK
ZK
Ringworm
cmorsch
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/27/16 12:16 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
We charged phones with the campfire, as I recall.
Yeah slowly it did...
I think if we someone had a small rv that would be better
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/27/16 12:35 AM
Im still debating how I want to sleep either tent or small camper, but either way I guess Ill bring a small generator.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/27/16 12:39 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Im still debating how I want to sleep either tent or small camper, but either way I guess Ill bring a small generator.
We can figure it out as we get closer. It depends on where we set up camp imo...
I was going to tent camp last year but ended up,sleeping in the bed of my truck
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/27/16 04:22 AM
Well I know the camper I had planned on taking is now gone. I had a small pop up, I brought it into my shop to fix a bad cable after sitting for over a year and the top had rotted out. I could have fixed it but put it onto CL and it was gone in about 2 hours! So now I will be looking for another one.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/27/16 12:16 PM
I need a small rv for my new deer lease. Thinking about a small bumper pulled. I think I can get it where the trailer was last year
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 01:38 AM
Cleric you can put me down for a strong maybe, depending on work. I should know for sure sometime in June.
As far as charging, I have a few of those little battery packs that they give away everywhere nowadays. If you are smart about shutting off cell service when you are in the mountains (you won't have any reception anyhow), you can easily get a couple of days from one charge.
As far as charging, I have a few of those little battery packs that they give away everywhere nowadays. If you are smart about shutting off cell service when you are in the mountains (you won't have any reception anyhow), you can easily get a couple of days from one charge.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 01:47 AM
The no service doesnt worry me about battery life, the using my phone as a display for my spotting scope so I dont have to have my eye up to the lens however does kill the battery, or using the wifi connection to my camera hooked up to the spotting scope. to have a remote viewfinder/recording device as well. between those and my GPS it would be nice to be able to recharge each night.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 02:12 AM
Well in that case this Biolite stove might interest you. I've always wondered how well it works. Cool concept.
https://www.rei.com/product/897128/biolite-wood-burning-campstove-bundle
https://www.rei.com/product/897128/biolite-wood-burning-campstove-bundle
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 03:11 AM
That might work, but a small 1-2k watt generator will work and let me charge everything at one time.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 07:43 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
We charged phones with the campfire, as I recall.
Yeah slowly it did...
I think if we someone had a small rv that would be better
did you ever completely charge your phone with that pine needle burning contraption?
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 08:33 PM
I charge mine in my pickup. 
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 09:44 PM
Ill have either my generac ix800 or iq2000 with me since they are small and light.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 10:00 PM
Ahh hell, put me down as a "strong maybe" too. But if I don't see more than a cow elk's posterior (as I did on hunt #1), I'm out in the future. Okay, I did smell those two young bulls, but that's 'cause the the senior member (meaning me) was ridin' drag. And I refuse to find and hold down the camp from interlopers - somebody else's gotta draw point.
Gimme the dates please, I'm just too old and lazy to look back through threads. My buddy, the manager of our deer lease, finally realized that we don't have to fill the feeders in August, so he'll probably plan an October run. The lease is 5 hours away, so I need to get my trips lined out.
I'll have a Honda generator too, for the frickin' CPAP.
Gimme the dates please, I'm just too old and lazy to look back through threads. My buddy, the manager of our deer lease, finally realized that we don't have to fill the feeders in August, so he'll probably plan an October run. The lease is 5 hours away, so I need to get my trips lined out.
I'll have a Honda generator too, for the frickin' CPAP.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 11:53 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK
ZK
Ringworm
cmorsch
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Creek runner
Shaw wheel
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 11:54 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
We charged phones with the campfire, as I recall.
Yeah slowly it did...
I think if we someone had a small rv that would be better
did you ever completely charge your phone with that pine needle burning contraption?
I got a good charge once or twice but it takes some fire to get there
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 11:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Ahh hell, put me down as a "strong maybe" too. But if I don't see more than a cow elk's posterior (as I did on hunt #1), I'm out in the future. Okay, I did smell those two young bulls, but that's 'cause the the senior member (meaning me) was ridin' drag. And I refuse to find and hold down the camp from interlopers - somebody else's gotta draw point.
Gimme the dates please, I'm just too old and lazy to look back through threads. My buddy, the manager of our deer lease, finally realized that we don't have to fill the feeders in August, so he'll probably plan an October run. The lease is 5 hours away, so I need to get my trips lined out.
I'll have a Honda generator too, for the frickin' CPAP.
Gimme the dates please, I'm just too old and lazy to look back through threads. My buddy, the manager of our deer lease, finally realized that we don't have to fill the feeders in August, so he'll probably plan an October run. The lease is 5 hours away, so I need to get my trips lined out.
I'll have a Honda generator too, for the frickin' CPAP.
We may consider having one or two people put in for cow tags...
Dates are oct 22-30
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/28/16 11:56 PM
Originally Posted By: bp3
I charge mine in my pickup.
All depends on home much you want to run your truck...
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/29/16 11:52 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
We charged phones with the campfire, as I recall.
Memorable!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/29/16 04:10 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Ahh hell, put me down as a "strong maybe" too. But if I don't see more than a cow elk's posterior (as I did on hunt #1), I'm out in the future. Okay, I did smell those two young bulls, but that's 'cause the the senior member (meaning me) was ridin' drag. And I refuse to find and hold down the camp from interlopers - somebody else's gotta draw point.
Gimme the dates please, I'm just too old and lazy to look back through threads. My buddy, the manager of our deer lease, finally realized that we don't have to fill the feeders in August, so he'll probably plan an October run. The lease is 5 hours away, so I need to get my trips lined out.
I'll have a Honda generator too, for the frickin' CPAP.
Gimme the dates please, I'm just too old and lazy to look back through threads. My buddy, the manager of our deer lease, finally realized that we don't have to fill the feeders in August, so he'll probably plan an October run. The lease is 5 hours away, so I need to get my trips lined out.
I'll have a Honda generator too, for the frickin' CPAP.
We may consider having one or two people put in for cow tags...
Dates are oct 22-30
FYI ... deadline for cow tag license is April 5 ... CPW Big Game License Application Instructions
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/29/16 04:17 PM
To bad they dont offer a Either Sex tag by draw like they offer in season 1 and 4.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 12:58 PM
Put in for the draw yesterday for deer and elk, you can feel it in your wallet that is for sure........
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 01:01 PM
I thought last year there were still some cow tags to buy...
I am holding off until I can make sure I have the time off
I am holding off until I can make sure I have the time off
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 01:27 PM
Most years ( I have done this), you can walk into a DOW office and many times they would LOVE to sell you a cow tag, if they have any LO for that season. Have to go into the office in person though, which for most is a long trip from the bush. If there are any tags left after the draw, I believe you can try for those when they go on sale, but many times they go lightning fast.
There are way's you can get multiple elk tags (up to 3 iirc) in the book, or online, but one of those options involve private land I believe, so I have never pursued that route.
Personally, I never understood why the DOW doesn't make all tags "either sex", this would sure take the pressure off young bulls. Instead, they try to lower the cow tag price to encourage cow harvest
I's bet most hunters would take a cow on the last day and be happy.
There are way's you can get multiple elk tags (up to 3 iirc) in the book, or online, but one of those options involve private land I believe, so I have never pursued that route.
Personally, I never understood why the DOW doesn't make all tags "either sex", this would sure take the pressure off young bulls. Instead, they try to lower the cow tag price to encourage cow harvest
I's bet most hunters would take a cow on the last day and be happy.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 01:41 PM
2 questions: How much alcohol do y'all consume and what's this "pine needle contraption" from which you charged your phones?
How many spots left?
How many spots left?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 04:36 PM
1. usually a couple in the evening after the hunt but usually tired enough to hit the hay pretty early since we had to get up early to get to where the hike began well before daybreak.
2. I'll let Cleric chime in on his little contraption, but it was some kind of small fire powered generator thing-er-ma-bob with a USB port to plug in electronic devices to charge.
2. I'll let Cleric chime in on his little contraption, but it was some kind of small fire powered generator thing-er-ma-bob with a USB port to plug in electronic devices to charge.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 04:44 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
2 questions: How much alcohol do y'all consume and what's this "pine needle contraption" from which you charged your phones?
How many spots left?
How many spots left?
Some drank more than others. But no one got really drunk. If you hunted that day you generally just wanted to eat and sleep.
The pine needle is called a bio lite I think. It's a small device that you start and fire in and creates electricity to charge devices. It does okay but takes a lot of wood or pine needles
There really is no limit to people. The tag is over the counter so they sale as many as they can. The biggest issue is someone getting there early enough to get a good camp site
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 07:12 PM
Cool, Cool.
Reason why I'm asking is because we've got about 12 members in our club. Probably only 5 will be interested, but needed to know. Oh, and no one drinks
Reason why I'm asking is because we've got about 12 members in our club. Probably only 5 will be interested, but needed to know. Oh, and no one drinks
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 08:45 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Cool, Cool.
Reason why I'm asking is because we've got about 12 members in our club. Probably only 5 will be interested, but needed to know. Oh, and no one drinks
Reason why I'm asking is because we've got about 12 members in our club. Probably only 5 will be interested, but needed to know. Oh, and no one drinks
As long as you are responsible I don't think people will mind. But if you are putting on the miles you are tired at nights so we don't sit around the fire too much longer after dinner.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 03/31/16 10:29 PM
All I know is hunting camps in the backwoods can get crowded pretty fast as there is limited space for everyone.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/03/16 01:22 AM
I am putting in for my cow tag on Monday, hopefully I get drawn ( ) and then to get ready for October! Still planning on going even if I don't get drawn for a cow. Am starting to look for a new pop up already. Get some practice with my 338 winmag.
) and then to get ready for October! Still planning on going even if I don't get drawn for a cow. Am starting to look for a new pop up already. Get some practice with my 338 winmag.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/03/16 01:36 AM
Im still debating about the cow tag, I will be putting in for a muley tag, and havent decided on if Ill tent camp or tow a small camper up, it would be nice to have a shower and toilet to use though. My biggest concern is can I fit a 19 camper in the bottom site.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/03/16 02:14 AM
I think it could fit, but if we have 2-3 campers, it will be real tight
Deep glad to hear you got a real caliber now
Deep glad to hear you got a real caliber now
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/03/16 09:03 PM
In the previous years did people decide on what they were bringing ahead of time and let the group know so others could plan accordingly? Cause if not that could turn into a nightmare for people thinking about campers.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/03/16 09:11 PM
We talk and coordinate. Last year most slept in trucks. If we have multiple rvs we can just find a spot to accomdate. In the area we had last year I would say 2 campers at the most would fit. We will figure it out.
Maybe we have 2 camp sites.. Maybe we limit rvs... The big issue with planning is camp sites are first come first serve.
If people wanted to bring big rvs, there are multiple rv sites closer into town with hook ups
Maybe we have 2 camp sites.. Maybe we limit rvs... The big issue with planning is camp sites are first come first serve.
If people wanted to bring big rvs, there are multiple rv sites closer into town with hook ups
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/04/16 03:51 PM
I would think you could fit several small campers in the area we had last year, just would take a little pre-planning on who might be leaving earlier than someone else. The ground where we camped last year was pretty uneven, so bringing some short 2x6s to use as tire or jack shims would be greatly beneficial.
If someone is interested in the pop-up cabover camper I took last year, I would sell it for what I have in it ($1200). Only issue was no water or bathroom but plenty of sleeping space for 2 people.
If someone is interested in the pop-up cabover camper I took last year, I would sell it for what I have in it ($1200). Only issue was no water or bathroom but plenty of sleeping space for 2 people.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/05/16 11:20 PM
Today is the last day for people to put in for any of the drawn hunts.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/06/16 01:15 AM
Well Im in for a muley hopefully.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/06/16 01:19 AM
Saw one jumpy buy me one afternoon...he was not more than 15 yards away
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/06/16 04:49 AM
Well, I put in for my cow tag! Wish me luck.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/07/16 12:50 AM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Well, I put in for my cow tag! Wish me luck.
Good luck...I am going to stick next to you because if you get in you will a lot of nice bull elk
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/07/16 06:47 AM
Well my "plan" is if I get a cow tag to get a bull tag for my son. He can get a tag for $100 (ish) and then we can get either.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/10/16 09:23 PM
4-5 guys down
Planners/veterans, can y'all put up a list of things needed and stuff related to logistics.
Who's the head-honcho of this whole thing?
Planners/veterans, can y'all put up a list of things needed and stuff related to logistics.
Who's the head-honcho of this whole thing?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 12:16 AM
Everyone's packing list is going to be different based on their needs, wants, and preferences.
Mine elk/deer list is pretty involved. But here it is.
Primary Rifle (300 RUM or 338 Lapua if its done in time)
Back up rifle (3006 or 300 RUM if I bring the Lapua)
sling incase i need it
rangefinder
2x Bino (1 spare set at camp)
Spotting scope
Eberlestock J107M pack
Camelbak Ranger Pack
2 knives (1 buck alpha mini and a havalon)
hydration packs for both packs
rear bags
bipods (attached to each Rifle)
trigger sticks
kestrel 4000
Garmin Alpha GPS
40+ ammo for each rifle
2 headlamps (1 spare)
plenty of trailmix
glucose tablets
SPOT communicator or Sat Phone
iphone & andriod, andriod has ballistics computer
phone skope adapter for iphone
ear pro
sun glasses
nitrile gloves
bore snake for each caliber I have with me
compass
Printed Topo maps of area (laminated)
whistle
3 different fire starters
emergency bivi sack
iodine tablets
knife sharpener
good insulated broken in boots
merino wool thermals
raingear
synthetic socks with sock liners
blaze orange hat and vest
spare batteries for everything
generator
degree sleeping bag with liner
2 coolers
food
white gold (toilet paper)
charging cables
lantern
gas cans
cook ware
camp clothing
chair
water filter for at camp
portable toilet
tent of some type/camper
air mattress/cot if using a tent
mattress toppers
pillow
several tarps
550 cord
"celebratory bottle"
clothing for multiple temp ranges
piece of foam to sit on
several packages of the Alaska Game Bags
Im sure im forgetting some stuff but thats what I can think of currently.
Mine elk/deer list is pretty involved. But here it is.
Primary Rifle (300 RUM or 338 Lapua if its done in time)
Back up rifle (3006 or 300 RUM if I bring the Lapua)
sling incase i need it
rangefinder
2x Bino (1 spare set at camp)
Spotting scope
Eberlestock J107M pack
Camelbak Ranger Pack
2 knives (1 buck alpha mini and a havalon)
hydration packs for both packs
rear bags
bipods (attached to each Rifle)
trigger sticks
kestrel 4000
Garmin Alpha GPS
40+ ammo for each rifle
2 headlamps (1 spare)
plenty of trailmix
glucose tablets
SPOT communicator or Sat Phone
iphone & andriod, andriod has ballistics computer
phone skope adapter for iphone
ear pro
sun glasses
nitrile gloves
bore snake for each caliber I have with me
compass
Printed Topo maps of area (laminated)
whistle
3 different fire starters
emergency bivi sack
iodine tablets
knife sharpener
good insulated broken in boots
merino wool thermals
raingear
synthetic socks with sock liners
blaze orange hat and vest
spare batteries for everything
generator
degree sleeping bag with liner
2 coolers
food
white gold (toilet paper)
charging cables
lantern
gas cans
cook ware
camp clothing
chair
water filter for at camp
portable toilet
tent of some type/camper
air mattress/cot if using a tent
mattress toppers
pillow
several tarps
550 cord
"celebratory bottle"
clothing for multiple temp ranges
piece of foam to sit on
several packages of the Alaska Game Bags
Im sure im forgetting some stuff but thats what I can think of currently.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 12:58 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
4-5 guys down
Planners/veterans, can y'all put up a list of things needed and stuff related to logistics.
Who's the head-honcho of this whole thing?
Planners/veterans, can y'all put up a list of things needed and stuff related to logistics.
Who's the head-honcho of this whole thing?
Bring anything you would need/want to camp for a week in temps that could range from 0-70. Hunting gear is pretty much a gun capable of killing an elk, Game bags, knives, tag.
No real head honcho. Sneaky started it, but not sure if he is going this year.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 01:04 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK
ZK
Ringworm
cmorsch
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Creek runner
Shaw wheel
Chintal+4-5 from lease
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 01:16 PM
once time gets a little closer, I suspect there will be a PM going with all that are planning on going. Once the PM gets going, various things will be coordinated between everyone along with phone numbers, food prep, who's bringing what (no need to end up with 8 Coleman stoves), when everyone is traveling and which routes for possible hookup along the way. A few things that multiple would be handy are lanterns, tables, chairs, easy up canopies, flashlights, lighters...
The way it worked last year, everyone signed up to bring at least one or two evening meals for the entire group (depends on how many end up going) and everyone brought their own breakfast, lunch and snacks. Although we did do a big breakfast a couple of times for the whole crew. We usually paired up for hunting, so no one was alone for safety. There were a few times after everyone became somewhat familiar with the territory some would venture out alone. You can get turned around pretty easy, so a GPS comes in handy. Do not rely on having cell phone service as your GPS!!!
The way it worked last year, everyone signed up to bring at least one or two evening meals for the entire group (depends on how many end up going) and everyone brought their own breakfast, lunch and snacks. Although we did do a big breakfast a couple of times for the whole crew. We usually paired up for hunting, so no one was alone for safety. There were a few times after everyone became somewhat familiar with the territory some would venture out alone. You can get turned around pretty easy, so a GPS comes in handy. Do not rely on having cell phone service as your GPS!!!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 02:17 PM
Last year pmk, zk, and I met in Waco about 60 days before we left. Hopefully we can get something like that going again. I would assume that about July I (or someone) will send PMs to everyone on the list to see who is still interested. With this many people we might do it over email since PMs are limited to 5 people. We will work through logistics. Getting there, food, supplies, getting a camp site, etc
Last year we identified 3-4 different entry points, that would could easily get to. As pmk said we usually left in 2-4 man groups. As the week went on and people got comfortable some went off on there own (some even learned some valuable lessons). There are numerous areas within 20-40 minutes of where camped that could be hunted.
Last year we identified 3-4 different entry points, that would could easily get to. As pmk said we usually left in 2-4 man groups. As the week went on and people got comfortable some went off on there own (some even learned some valuable lessons). There are numerous areas within 20-40 minutes of where camped that could be hunted.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 02:41 PM
Im not sure about anyone else, but I have already taken that whole season off from work. The logistics of a group that size potentially will be the tricky one.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 02:46 PM
Could be, but I think some people will fall out.
I am taking Friday to Friday off. I will leave dfw on thur afternoon.
I was worried about logistics before last trip but it will work out. If worse comes to worse we can camp in town and have a bit longer drive in the morning. We had 7-8 trucks/trailers in our camp last year and we had enough room. The harder part will be securing a good spot, as we won't have chief getting there early.
I am taking Friday to Friday off. I will leave dfw on thur afternoon.
I was worried about logistics before last trip but it will work out. If worse comes to worse we can camp in town and have a bit longer drive in the morning. We had 7-8 trucks/trailers in our camp last year and we had enough room. The harder part will be securing a good spot, as we won't have chief getting there early.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 04:22 PM
I don't even have PM, so I would need an email sent my way 
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 05:02 PM
I have fri-fri off as well. Ill be leaving DFW either Thursday night or early friday aswell. Ill figure that one out closer to then though.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 05:42 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I don't even have PM, so I would need an email sent my way
PM here on THF ... located under the tab above under "My Stuff"
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 07:01 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I don't even have PM, so I would need an email sent my way
PM here on THF ... located under the tab above under "My Stuff"
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 07:10 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
I have fri-fri off as well. Ill be leaving DFW either Thursday night or early friday aswell. Ill figure that one out closer to then though.
Last year I drove to Albuquerque Thursday. Than left from there in the morning so I arrived before lunch on Friday. I wanted to try and give my body at least some time to adjust before setting out.
The drive from Albuquerque to Durango is hard because there is nothing there.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 07:12 PM
For me DFW to NM border is the hardest, its just flat. NM to durango atleast has some mountains to look at.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 07:14 PM
It was a pain to get to ama because I kept having to slow down every 30 miles. Ama to abq was nice because it was flat and straight so I set the cruise and went
No matter how you slice it, it's a drive
No matter how you slice it, it's a drive
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 07:15 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I don't even have PM, so I would need an email sent my way
PM here on THF ... located under the tab above under "My Stuff"
Under my preferences there is a button that says accept PMs or something like that
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 07:45 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I don't even have PM, so I would need an email sent my way
PM here on THF ... located under the tab above under "My Stuff"
Under my preferences there is a button that says accept PMs or something like that
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 08:18 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm trying to understand how a .270 is not enough but a .30-06 knocks them down. Help me out here.
yea this is hard to get hold of.
my uncle killed 10-15 elk with a 243.
its not how big the hole is, it is where the hole is.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/11/16 10:11 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I don't even have PM, so I would need an email sent my way
PM here on THF ... located under the tab above under "My Stuff"
hmmm ... might send a message to an admin/moderator ... DUH, nevermind! ok, second thought, go to the Testing Area and ask for some admin/moderator assistance.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/12/16 03:58 AM
Originally Posted By: PMK
hmmm ... might send a message to an admin/moderator ... DUH, nevermind! ok, second thought, go to the Testing Area and ask for some admin/moderator assistance.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/12/16 01:53 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: PMK
hmmm ... might send a message to an admin/moderator ... DUH, nevermind! ok, second thought, go to the Testing Area and ask for some admin/moderator assistance.
oh ... so you are kinda in time-out?
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/12/16 04:22 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: PMK
hmmm ... might send a message to an admin/moderator ... DUH, nevermind! ok, second thought, go to the Testing Area and ask for some admin/moderator assistance.
oh ... so you are kinda in time-out?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/12/16 09:47 PM
It probably has something to do with Chital being a minor.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/12/16 11:06 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
It probably has something to do with Chital being a minor.
so did not know that... i guess i should take him off the list of interested people?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/12/16 11:36 PM
I would find out who his guardian will be first. Cause that brings up a whole mess of other things to deal with.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/13/16 04:14 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
It probably has something to do with Chital being a minor.
so did not know that... i guess i should take him off the list of interested people?
Some THFers that I've hunted with can vouch for me! lol.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/13/16 01:23 PM
ah ha! I have been scratching my head wondering why someone would not have access to PMs... makes sense now!
Posted By: kusai
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 02:44 AM
Hey guys I am planning on going elk hunting this year too. Can someone please keep the OP updated ? Hard to go thru 20 pages.
Thanks
Thanks
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 03:23 AM
Originally Posted By: kusai
Hey guys I am planning on going elk hunting this year too. Can someone please keep the OP updated ? Hard to go thru 20 pages.
Thanks
Thanks
We can try to, however it's hard to edit posts after a certain amount of time.
Most of the thread is banter, it's easier just to ask questions as they come up
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 01:23 PM
Cleric,
Sorry I did not mean to imply Chital couldn't go because he is a minor. I saw that thread going and tossed in my comment while I was traveling. I have seen him doing quite a bit of hunting listed throughtout the forum and think he will be fine (probably better than some of us) And as he said his dad will be going too. I am still planning on bringing my son, and I know that Jared was thinking about bringing his son this year also. My son Will is 13 and I think he will have a blast!
Sorry I did not mean to imply Chital couldn't go because he is a minor. I saw that thread going and tossed in my comment while I was traveling. I have seen him doing quite a bit of hunting listed throughtout the forum and think he will be fine (probably better than some of us) And as he said his dad will be going too. I am still planning on bringing my son, and I know that Jared was thinking about bringing his son this year also. My son Will is 13 and I think he will have a blast!
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 01:26 PM
Originally Posted By: kusai
Hey guys I am planning on going elk hunting this year too. Can someone please keep the OP updated ? Hard to go thru 20 pages.
Thanks
Thanks
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 03:10 PM
All good. I am going to try and get out there to scout around. May look for some new trails
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 03:14 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
All good. I am going to try and get out there to scout around. May look for some new trails
Im hoping to do the same on a long weekend. Maybe memorial day weekend, july 4th weekend, or labor day weekend.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 05:19 PM
I would wait till after the 4th of July. In talking to the farmer, they still got snow and crappy roads at elevation
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 06:43 PM
What farmer?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 06:56 PM
There is a guy that leases the rights for cows to graze up there. He pulled his cows off before the season started, but a few stragglers remained. I/we meet him when he was out looking for his cows.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 07:40 PM
Ok, have you met the people who own the peice of private at the road turnoff?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 07:51 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
There is a guy that leases the rights for cows to graze up there. He pulled his cows off before the season started, but a few stragglers remained. I/we meet him when he was out looking for his cows.
Did you by chance get his name & number? He might have some vital scouting Intel to relay. Or in case we get in a bind and need a horse or two to pull Sneaky out of the bottom of some canyon w/ elk quarters in tow. He might unknowingly be our new best friend.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/14/16 08:01 PM
I would be more worried about pulling me out then sneaky I think. I have a feeling that Ill be solo hunting most of time as I dont think anyone would want to be stuck with me and my rifles.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/15/16 12:21 AM
I got his name, but I can't remember it. If I go back this summer I will see if I can find him.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/18/16 11:19 PM
Exo has a new 1500 horn hauler bag. I emailed them about adding some accessories to it and using that as my primary bag
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 12:08 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Exo has a new 1500 horn hauler bag. I emailed them about adding some accessories to it and using that as my primary bag
It's specifically designed for shed hauling, I personally would wait for the 2k bag.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 01:14 AM
Yeah that's another option
I want to see it when it comes out too
I want to see it when it comes out too
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 02:28 AM
The new Metcalf by Mystery Ranch is calling my name. I got to test it out at the SHOT show. Exactly what I have been looking and waiting for. I am sold.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 02:39 AM
That bag is huge. More space than needed for this hunt imo. But if you have a true camp hunt that would be nice
I looked at the mystery ranch but went with the lighter exo
I looked at the mystery ranch but went with the lighter exo
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 03:00 AM
Speaking of met calf here is a video on breaking down an elk. for anyone who hasn't seen I would watch it a few times
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 03:32 AM
It has the potential to be huge I agree, but with it compressed it's not that large at all and the minimal added weight over my 2,000 cu in pack ( a mere 1.5 lbs) I think it is worth it. In my opinion (which is usually worthless, lol) If you were going to own one pack its the one to get if you intend to do everything from bivy/backpacking hunts to day hunts. I have used my 2000 cu inch pack for 3 yrs now, and used it on this hunt in 2014. It's just the right size for the majority of my day hunting trips however adding meat or a caped out head isn't ideal. I don't like the fact that I am gonna make a semi wasted tripped back to the truck or camp to dump it for a bigger pack to haul meat. I looked at Eberlestocks similar models and really didn't fall in love with the way theirs was designed. I even tried to force myself to like the Eberlestock because I got a discount coupon from them at SHOT for a percentage off any bag. Just wasn't what I wanted. MysteryRanches "Cabinet" is smaller and probably more practical size wise but I don't like the functionality/organization of the bag itself. The biggest problem with packs like this is to not over pack them (famous last words, right). They had the Metcalf compressed at SHOT and it was still completely functional and no bigger than my current one. Unless I find something else before they are available for retail I am headed that direction.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 03:49 AM
Sounds good. I have heard great things about mystery ranch. Will be interested to see it.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 03:53 AM
Great video. Thanks for sharing. If I get something down this year, I'll be glad to let you try it out.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/19/16 11:31 AM
I am all academic....hopefully this year I get some experience.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 02:21 PM
So you need those $300 backpacks?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 03:24 PM
You don't need one, but a good pack really helps with packing out quarters. I use the Eberlestock J107M as it has a rifle scabbard built into it as well so carrying my rifle is not a bad for long distances, compared to a sling. What you use is all personal preference though.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 04:04 PM
you really don't need much of a pack UNTIL you kill something 
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 04:18 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
you really don't need much of a pack UNTIL you kill something
Wisdom, if even then with more than 2 guy's.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 04:32 PM
You don't need a pack at all. You can hand carry everything. It will make life difficult but possible.
In my time I learned there are two things you don't skimp on, boots and bags.
A good bag can take a lot of pressure off your back and legs. If you are putting the miles on it can make life easier. Last year chief was doing better after properly adjusting a bag.
In my time I learned there are two things you don't skimp on, boots and bags.
A good bag can take a lot of pressure off your back and legs. If you are putting the miles on it can make life easier. Last year chief was doing better after properly adjusting a bag.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 04:34 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
you really don't need much of a pack UNTIL you kill something you camp away from the truck
Fixed it
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 05:08 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
So you need those $300 backpacks?
As others have said, absolutely not. A nice pack is great but don't let that deter you or anyone from getting out and going hunting. Everyone is different. I think one needs a pack when hunting away from camp or the vehicle but that's where I'll stop. How big, what kind, how much? that's all for you to decide. As with anything, you USUALLY get what you pay for (quality speaking), however, you'll pay dearly for what you can't afford. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Tons of great insight from great people on this forum. If you are in need of a pack, find a price range you are comfortable with, no matter whatever that is and others here will point you in the right direction.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 05:12 PM
I would look for a pack in the 2000-3000 ci range that has capability of hauling meat. Deep sea bought one used last year and it worked fine.
I would develop my list of stuff to bring. Sneaky posted his earlier. I started with that. Figure out what you have and what you need to get. Than talk to people. I think with a bit of planning two people could cut that list down and spread the weight. If you know you are hunting with your dad, you both don't need knives. You made decide to take a chance and take only one set of game bags, Etc.
I would develop my list of stuff to bring. Sneaky posted his earlier. I started with that. Figure out what you have and what you need to get. Than talk to people. I think with a bit of planning two people could cut that list down and spread the weight. If you know you are hunting with your dad, you both don't need knives. You made decide to take a chance and take only one set of game bags, Etc.
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 05:18 PM
How many guys y'all plan on having in 1 camp?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 05:29 PM
Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
So you need those $300 backpacks?
As others have said, absolutely not. A nice pack is great but don't let that deter you or anyone from getting out and going hunting. Everyone is different. I think one needs a pack when hunting away from camp or the vehicle but that's where I'll stop. How big, what kind, how much? that's all for you to decide. As with anything, you USUALLY get what you pay for (quality speaking), however, you'll pay dearly for what you can't afford. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Tons of great insight from great people on this forum. If you are in need of a pack, find a price range you are comfortable with, no matter whatever that is and others here will point you in the right direction.
Nailed it.^^^ Same goes for boots.
Chital-
When it becomes a every year deal, Then I highly advise setting aside an equipment upgrade fund( be smart because you still have a lot of physical growing to do). How you hunt will dictate what you need and what you should invest in.
Better equipment won't make you a better hunter, but on day 5 of a 10 day trip and three miles in, those comfort upgrades can be the difference in you calling it a trip and coming off the mountain or sticking it out.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 05:33 PM
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
How many guys y'all plan on having in 1 camp?
Ideally every hunter get one
It's rare. I think we are 0/2, neither of the last two years got one
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 05:39 PM
What BOBO said.
A lot of the time, you will be camping 30' from your truck.....Clean draws and dry socks After this fall, you will get your own groove on.
A lot of the time, you will be camping 30' from your truck.....Clean draws and dry socks
After this fall, you will get your own groove on.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 06:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
What BOBO said.
A lot of the time, you will be camping 30' from your truck.....Clean draws and dry socks After this fall, you will get your own groove on.
A lot of the time, you will be camping 30' from your truck.....Clean draws and dry socks
After this fall, you will get your own groove on. And a cot and nice thick pad. Don't rough if you don't have too
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 06:07 PM
Hunting in Colorado is not like hunting in Texas.
There is no quick " run back to camp or to town" to grab something.
Don't skimp on socks, boots, pack frames or clothing". When it's. Sunny snd warm one day can turn into a blizzard the next
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
There is no quick " run back to camp or to town" to grab something.
Don't skimp on socks, boots, pack frames or clothing". When it's. Sunny snd warm one day can turn into a blizzard the next
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 06:08 PM
And a small twin size blow up air mattress is a must!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 07:21 PM
Hell I was wondering about taking a folding trailer and mounting a canvas tent in top...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 07:37 PM
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Hunting in Colorado is not like hunting in Texas.
There is no quick " run back to camp or to town" to grab something.
Don't skimp on socks, boots, pack frames or clothing". When it's. Sunny snd warm one day can turn into a blizzard the next
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
There is no quick " run back to camp or to town" to grab something.
Don't skimp on socks, boots, pack frames or clothing". When it's. Sunny snd warm one day can turn into a blizzard the next
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
Good boots and socks are a must. But a good pack and game bags will save you hours/days of pain if you manage to fill a tag. As you may have several miles to carry everything out on your back.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 07:37 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Hell I was wondering about taking a folding trailer and mounting a canvas tent in top...
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 09:25 PM
Roof top tent
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 09:27 PM
My number one priority this last fall was boots & socks since I hadn't been in years (20+) and my old stuff was not up to par. We covered a lot of ground on foot and your feet are very important!!! Blisters on day one will make the rest of your trip miserable! Hopefully with a larger group, when (or if) someone knocks something down, everyone pitches in to help pack it out, then get back to hunting. When it's a smaller group (or a group that has a number of older, less physically able bodies) it takes a lot more work to get everything out.
Likewise, if you are packing in and camping a distance away from your vehicle, the size/quality of your pack goes up quite drastically. That wasn't the case for our group, we had a common camp area off a forestry road, 30-45 minute drive to trail head, then hiked in to hunting area.
Likewise, if you are packing in and camping a distance away from your vehicle, the size/quality of your pack goes up quite drastically. That wasn't the case for our group, we had a common camp area off a forestry road, 30-45 minute drive to trail head, then hiked in to hunting area.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/20/16 11:36 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Roof top tent
That's an option. I would think a 5x8 would be bigger and more versatile. Anyone's you particularly like.
Originally Posted By: PMK
My number one priority this last fall was boots & socks since I hadn't been in years (20+) and my old stuff was not up to par. We covered a lot of ground on foot and your feet are very important!!! Blisters on day one will make the rest of your trip miserable! Hopefully with a larger group, when (or if) someone knocks something down, everyone pitches in to help pack it out, then get back to hunting. When it's a smaller group (or a group that has a number of older, less physically able bodies) it takes a lot more work to get everything out.
Likewise, if you are packing in and camping a distance away from your vehicle, the size/quality of your pack goes up quite drastically. That wasn't the case for our group, we had a common camp area off a forestry road, 30-45 minute drive to trail head, then hiked in to hunting area.
Likewise, if you are packing in and camping a distance away from your vehicle, the size/quality of your pack goes up quite drastically. That wasn't the case for our group, we had a common camp area off a forestry road, 30-45 minute drive to trail head, then hiked in to hunting area.
If you said I could only buy one item for this trip it would be boots, in a heart beat.
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 12:45 AM
Another thing on guns....take a normal weight, sporter type rifle. You will get tired of lugging a 7 1/2 lb rifle around, a 10 lb gun will kill you.
Ounces and pounds matter unless you just wanna walk 400 yards outta camp and hunt off a trail, which is what a lot of folks do
Ounces and pounds matter unless you just wanna walk 400 yards outta camp and hunt off a trail, which is what a lot of folks do
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 02:12 AM
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Another thing on guns....take a normal weight, sporter type rifle. You will get tired of lugging a 7 1/2 lb rifle around, a 10 lb gun will kill you.
Ounces and pounds matter unless you just wanna walk 400 yards outta camp and hunt off a trail, which is what a lot of folks do
Ounces and pounds matter unless you just wanna walk 400 yards outta camp and hunt off a trail, which is what a lot of folks do
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 02:40 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Roof top tent
That's an option. I would think a 5x8 would be bigger and more versatile. Anyone's you particularly like.
Originally Posted By: PMK
My number one priority this last fall was boots & socks since I hadn't been in years (20+) and my old stuff was not up to par. We covered a lot of ground on foot and your feet are very important!!! Blisters on day one will make the rest of your trip miserable! Hopefully with a larger group, when (or if) someone knocks something down, everyone pitches in to help pack it out, then get back to hunting. When it's a smaller group (or a group that has a number of older, less physically able bodies) it takes a lot more work to get everything out.
Likewise, if you are packing in and camping a distance away from your vehicle, the size/quality of your pack goes up quite drastically. That wasn't the case for our group, we had a common camp area off a forestry road, 30-45 minute drive to trail head, then hiked in to hunting area.
Likewise, if you are packing in and camping a distance away from your vehicle, the size/quality of your pack goes up quite drastically. That wasn't the case for our group, we had a common camp area off a forestry road, 30-45 minute drive to trail head, then hiked in to hunting area.
If you said I could only buy one item for this trip it would be boots, in a heart beat.
I've been looking at the fiberglass hard sided pop up ones. Like Bigfoot and james baroud. While simplistic and ease of use are big selling factors, price point and lack of extra space(awning)under tent are huge detractors vs canvas roof top tents. Toss in the fact I would only use it in a few units in NM or AZ if I draw, it's best for me just to talk you into buying it and borrowing it when or if I draw
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 02:46 AM
Rent a pack horse or find a ranch hand to pack out your game. I know it cost money, plan ahead and allow for it.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 12:51 PM
Originally Posted By: bp3
Rent a pack horse or find a ranch hand to pack out your game. I know it cost money, plan ahead and allow for it.
I checked into this for the area we hunted last year. The only option was lease for the entire season (not sure of the cost, none were available by the time I got to checking into this option) ... or for a pack out which came with a roughneck to pack it out, it was a flat rate ($400-600 if memory serves me, I think I posted in last years thread pricing) plus $$$ for anything over 6 hours (I think) and that was from the time the trailer left the barn. I was told it would be best to have it quartered ready to load cause the clock was ticking.
years back, we took our own horses and that came in real handy getting around and when we put something on the ground. I had a mare that was rock solid, surefooted and could even shoot off of her but she couldn't stand the smell of blood. We had to blindfold her, hoist elk quarters onto her and lead her off the mountain with the blindfold in place the entire time. She was lathered up and slobbering at the mouth the entire time.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 12:54 PM
I hear sneaky prefers llamas...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 12:57 PM
All I have found is places that will rent a horse for the season but its pushing 600 per horse, and personally I would rather pack it out on my back then risk the possible injury to someone else's horse, especially if they are not there and dont want you to pack horns out on the horse either.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 02:09 PM
I know I'm late to the party, but pretty much what everyone said about good boots and a good bag are true. I borrowed a military bag from my BIL and it worked out pretty well. I would highly recommend when you're training for the trip, at some point start carrying your bag with about the same weight, if not more. That was one thing I didn't really think about and after a couple of days in the mountains with the pack on, my hips started bothering me a bit. Break your boots in before you go. I was mowing the yard in mine a couple of months prior to going and they worked out great.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 02:44 PM
Need to talk with a "cowboy" for a horse, many travel up there from NM, or WY and other states to help bring cattle down. Going to a place that does it for a side gig, will cost a penny. Most I have paid is $150 and steak dinner, other fella takes $150 and a bottle of whisky. See a few hosses by a mobile home or small house/land, that's is a good place to ask as well.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 03:31 PM
The cowboy pulled his cattle last year before the hunting so he was gone. I will see about meeting up with him in the summer
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 03:40 PM
This was a cowboy from NM, he stayed in a small shack while bringing cattle from the high country. One of the nicest, down to earth people in I have met. I met him by chance, he stopped by camp asking if we had seen any cattle, we had and told him excactly where. We had him over for dinner for 3 days, great company and was happy to fetch my bull for free, but I gave him a hunerd fitty anyway, he was tickled, as was I.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 05:56 PM
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
What do y'all mean by "good socks?" And the Club has it's own bank account, so I can talk to the treasurer to get a couple of those frame packs ($200 each is what I'm looking at tops, anything?) for the 5 of us coming out, in addition to our day packs with food/firestarters/water/knives/lights etc.
We're probably gonna get one of those car-tent things.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 06:05 PM
You don't want to wear your everyday cotton socks and you'll get blisters more than likely. You'll want something that helps wick away the sweat since you'll be walking quite a bit. I got mine from cabelas, but you can get hunting/hiking socks at pretty much any outdoors store. I had some liner socks, and the socks in the link, over the top. Some prefer wool socks, but I wasn't that big of a fan of them. I want to say I had a set of the "medium" and "heavy" weight socks.
Socks
Socks
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 06:16 PM
Merino wool
First lite-
Darn tough-
Kuiu-
Smart wool-
First lite-
Darn tough-
Kuiu-
Smart wool-
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 06:47 PM
As for packs, I strongly suggest a pack for each person, as you will have alot to packout if you manage to shoot a elk. and it all weighs a decent ammount.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 09:21 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
As for packs, I strongly suggest a pack for each person, as you will have alot to packout if you manage to shoot a elk. and it all weighs a decent ammount.
Let's say $100-200 budget for something to pack out an elk, piece by piece, on. Probably gonna use a modified version of the Mystery Ranch video posted earlier (gonna find a way to take it all, call me crazy if you will, these men ain't gon leave no elk-ison behind!)
I have a couple of pairs of Under Armour heavy weight boot socks (wool, synthetic blend I think). 3 pairs of my boots are 400gram insulation and 1 is uninsulated. Liner socks help evaporation or something, right? I dunno what they are.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 09:28 PM
Take it all at once? Or are you going to the guts back?
Do you have a good quality bag now? If you do I would consider buying hauler for less than 50. Or seeing if you can borrow one. At the 200 price point I would wait and see the price point of the 200 Exo pack. Also starting looking at used stuff at people buy new gear. A good rei hiking bag would also work.
Liner help keep moisture off your feet. I would say warmth is not the issue. Just comfort.
Rule of advice. Cotten is rotten. It holds moisture which causes problems
Do you have a good quality bag now? If you do I would consider buying hauler for less than 50. Or seeing if you can borrow one. At the 200 price point I would wait and see the price point of the 200 Exo pack. Also starting looking at used stuff at people buy new gear. A good rei hiking bag would also work.
Liner help keep moisture off your feet. I would say warmth is not the issue. Just comfort.
Rule of advice. Cotten is rotten. It holds moisture which causes problems
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 09:32 PM
if you are going to take it all in one trip, you better have a small army with strong backs & legs.
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 09:36 PM
I would be willing to build a weather tight, small, light weight one man cabin/shelter that could be easily hauled on a utility trailer for someone. Being done with the hassles of travel trailers at the lease, I built my current quarters. For this trip I think 5' x 10', slant roof, 2" x 2" framing skinned in 1/4" plywood with a good primer and paint with spray foam insulation. The key is to keep it light. You buy the materials, we can discuss the rest. I'd like to make this trip, next year.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 09:38 PM
I am wondering if something like that. Or a smaller trailer with a built in tent would be better
I want a high quality solution that doesn't cost that much that can easily be transported but robust enough to cover me while at my lease
I want a high quality solution that doesn't cost that much that can easily be transported but robust enough to cover me while at my lease
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/21/16 11:03 PM
A trip like this would likely require a trailer, so something like what I suggested would work well. You could actually pack most of your gear in so it would be out of the weather during the drive. I hunt in the panhandle, and my shelter is great with the cold weather and high wind. Wouldn't want to see if a tent could handle the North Texas wind. If you want some ideas for your lease shelter, pm me, I'll tell you what I built and material cost.
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/22/16 06:09 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
What do y'all mean by "good socks?" And the Club has it's own bank account, so I can talk to the treasurer to get a couple of those frame packs ($200 each is what I'm looking at tops, anything?) for the 5 of us coming out, in addition to our day packs with food/firestarters/water/knives/lights etc.
We're probably gonna get one of those car-tent things.
If your going just for elk meat then you may be disappointed
Your going for the experience not to fill the freezer. There is a high likelihood you will all go home empty handed, especially if this is your first trip
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/22/16 06:23 PM
And be prepared to put in some miles into the thick nasty stuff and be ready to pack one out of the nasty stuff.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/22/16 06:33 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
What do y'all mean by "good socks?" And the Club has it's own bank account, so I can talk to the treasurer to get a couple of those frame packs ($200 each is what I'm looking at tops, anything?) for the 5 of us coming out, in addition to our day packs with food/firestarters/water/knives/lights etc.
We're probably gonna get one of those car-tent things.
You need to put in for rifle cow elk tags next year. Research success rates. Or archery hunt on an either sex tag
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/22/16 06:37 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
What do y'all mean by "good socks?" And the Club has it's own bank account, so I can talk to the treasurer to get a couple of those frame packs ($200 each is what I'm looking at tops, anything?) for the 5 of us coming out, in addition to our day packs with food/firestarters/water/knives/lights etc.
We're probably gonna get one of those car-tent things.
You need to put in for rifle cow elk tags next year. Research success rates. Or archery hunt on an either sex tag
I could have killed several cows during the archery season
I'd much rather hunting Colorado during archery
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 03:34 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
You wanna pinch pennies do it on food and non-vital accessories
What do y'all mean by "good socks?" And the Club has it's own bank account, so I can talk to the treasurer to get a couple of those frame packs ($200 each is what I'm looking at tops, anything?) for the 5 of us coming out, in addition to our day packs with food/firestarters/water/knives/lights etc.
We're probably gonna get one of those car-tent things.
You need to put in for rifle cow elk tags next year. Research success rates. Or archery hunt on an either sex tag
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 12:13 PM
The application deadline has already passed. And yes 2nd rifle is Bull only OTC.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 12:29 PM
Many times you can still get a cow tag, They are called "left over tags". You can find out after a certain day what units have them left over after the draw. Most will be landowner tags, but many times there are general PL tags. 1st come, 1st served. Just get to know where to look on the Colorado DOW website and be ready to act when the time comes. You will likely have to stop into the DOW office in Durango, which is kind of on the way.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 02:24 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK
ZK
Ringworm
cmorsch
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Creek runner
Shaw wheel
Chintal+4-5 from lease
Kusai
Updated
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 02:32 PM
If your hunting 2nd season may want to buy an OTC bear tag
One in our group had a monster black bear pass within 30 yards of him but no tag
I crossed the track of a bear that had passed by not very long before I got there.
One in our group had a monster black bear pass within 30 yards of him but no tag
I crossed the track of a bear that had passed by not very long before I got there.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 02:42 PM
So to give everyone a time line....
Right now- lose weight and buy things you will carry with you while hunting. We usually leave at 4-5 am, drive to a trail ahead and hunt till dark. Highest priority item imo would be boots. I used danner pronghorns last year with a sock liner and merino wool sock. My feet stayed dry and warm which is a great combination. Where they lacked is support while moving up and down the mountain. you can buy quality mountain boots, but they get expensive. But a good pair of field boots will work. Other things you will need/want in your bag...game bags, good knives, optics, food, basic survival gear, map/gps. If you need something and will use only for this trip post what you need. I am a huge fan of borrowing/loaning gear.
End of July we will try to have a get together. Last year we did it in Waco. At this time we will start discussing communal items, grills, camping gear, who's leaving when from where, etc. I will bring a map of the area and start talking through the different trails.
I didn't buy my tag till September last year as there is no reason to buy and pay now, Imo.
Right now- lose weight and buy things you will carry with you while hunting. We usually leave at 4-5 am, drive to a trail ahead and hunt till dark. Highest priority item imo would be boots. I used danner pronghorns last year with a sock liner and merino wool sock. My feet stayed dry and warm which is a great combination. Where they lacked is support while moving up and down the mountain. you can buy quality mountain boots, but they get expensive. But a good pair of field boots will work. Other things you will need/want in your bag...game bags, good knives, optics, food, basic survival gear, map/gps. If you need something and will use only for this trip post what you need. I am a huge fan of borrowing/loaning gear.
End of July we will try to have a get together. Last year we did it in Waco. At this time we will start discussing communal items, grills, camping gear, who's leaving when from where, etc. I will bring a map of the area and start talking through the different trails.
I didn't buy my tag till September last year as there is no reason to buy and pay now, Imo.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 04:20 PM
here is cmorosch packing list:http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6254719/Re:_2016_Group_Elk_Hunt?#Post6254719
here is sneaky packing list http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5392383/Re:_2015_CO_group_elk_hunt.#Post5392383
gander mountains list (yes i fill a bit dirty posting this) http://www.gandermountain.com/checklists/elk-hunting.pdf
here is sneaky packing list http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5392383/Re:_2015_CO_group_elk_hunt.#Post5392383
gander mountains list (yes i fill a bit dirty posting this) http://www.gandermountain.com/checklists/elk-hunting.pdf
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 10:34 PM
A meet up in Waco would be good for me when the time comes.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/23/16 10:48 PM
Oh and before I forget, personally I make sure I get up there early enough that I can verify my zero on my rifles before the hunt starts at the range in Durango.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/24/16 01:58 AM
Not a bad idea... I may go to the nra range in New Mexico to try some distance there. Think it's at 7500 feet
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/24/16 08:47 PM
Calls at that time of year? Decoys? Blind material?!?!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/24/16 08:52 PM
Too late in the year for bugling really
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 12:51 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Too late in the year for bugling really
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 01:42 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Too late in the year for bugling really
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
CS, sometimes a cow call comes in real handy, elk are very vocal year round, learn the calls and you can often calm them down and many times pull them to you. I have done it many times, especially cows, just hope there is a bull in tow.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 01:44 AM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Too late in the year for bugling really
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
No decoy no blinds. Just hike and find a spot and set up. Or hike and try to track
CS, sometimes a cow call comes in real handy, elk are very vocal year round, learn the calls and you can often calm them down and many times pull them to you. I have done it many times, especially cows, just hope there is a bull in tow.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 02:42 AM
We heard what sounded like a spike squealing east of Meeker as we were riding out of camp during late season ( early November )way before light. Wasn't another hunter where we were. Might have been looking for his mommy.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 02:56 AM
I was given advise to be careful with calls late in season. Unless you know what you are doing you could
Easily do more harm than good
Easily do more harm than good
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 03:07 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I was given advise to be careful with calls late in season. Unless you know what you are doing you could
Easily do more harm than good
Easily do more harm than good
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 12:56 PM
I used a cow call 3 yrs ago during 2nd rifle season in Colorado to pull a group of late arriving cows to the main herd going to bed down in dark timber towards me and was able to take a cow. It works, just have to know how and when it's appropriate. I have never used a bugle call however during 2nd season. Just a cow call.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 01:46 PM
Speaking of season, this hunt is gonna happen in the 2nd rifle season, correct? Dates for that season?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 02:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
End of July we will try to have a get together. Last year we did it in Waco. At this time we will start discussing communal items, grills, camping gear, who's leaving when from where, etc. I will bring a map of the area and start talking through the different trails.
I didn't buy my tag till September last year as there is no reason to buy and pay now, Imo.
Last year we met in Hillsboro (and someone was late) ...
Several of us bought our bull tags at the Walmart in Durango the day we arrived ... just be sure you bring your Hunter Education card!
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 04:26 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Cleric
End of July we will try to have a get together. Last year we did it in Waco. At this time we will start discussing communal items, grills, camping gear, who's leaving when from where, etc. I will bring a map of the area and start talking through the different trails.
I didn't buy my tag till September last year as there is no reason to buy and pay now, Imo.
Last year we met in Hillsboro (and someone was late) ...
Several of us bought our bull tags at the Walmart in Durango the day we arrived ... just be sure you bring your Hunter Education card!
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 04:52 PM
It is required if born after 1/1/1949
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 04:54 PM
Also you have to have your card on you I think
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 04:56 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Also you have to have your card on you I think
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 04:59 PM
Oh and they recommend that you don't laminate the card.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 05:04 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Cleric
End of July we will try to have a get together. Last year we did it in Waco. At this time we will start discussing communal items, grills, camping gear, who's leaving when from where, etc. I will bring a map of the area and start talking through the different trails.
I didn't buy my tag till September last year as there is no reason to buy and pay now, Imo.
Last year we met in Hillsboro (and someone was late) ...
Several of us bought our bull tags at the Walmart in Durango the day we arrived ... just be sure you bring your Hunter Education card!
You can't even get a tag with out one
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 06:06 PM
correct, anyone who's birthday is after January 1, 1949 is required to have a hunter ed card (or certificate) with them when purchasing a license. If anyone has taken the class and lost their card, they can log into the TPWD website and print a certificate (I did that this past year since my card was overly worn, originally printed in 1979).
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 06:28 PM
As of this year, there are two options for those that don't have a hunters card yet and were born after 1/1/49 and want to hunt in Colorado. You can "test-out" making a 90 or above. If you fail you get a one year "apprentice license" that allows you to still hunt. Applies to all hunters hunting in Colorado. So, if you are pressed for time this may be a viable option but in the long run I would go ahead and get your states applicable hunters Ed certificate.
Here is the link for more info. http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Hunting/HunterEd/HunterEducation-FAQs.pdf
Here is the link for more info. http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Hunting/HunterEd/HunterEducation-FAQs.pdf
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 06:38 PM
Also, once your hunters ed card has been "verified" by Colorado Parks and Wildlife, when they print your license out on the blue tags, it will have the word "Verified" to the side of your number. In this instance only, you DO NOT have to carry your Hunters Ed card with you while hunting nor will you need it to purchase an over the counter tag after the initial verification date going forward. I haven't shown my hunters ed card in years while buying an over the counter tag. Simply bring the old license and show my drivers license and I am good to go.
Applying online is a different story obviously as others have mentioned.
Applying online is a different story obviously as others have mentioned.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 07:11 PM
Very cool. Will need to make my people take the course then!
Interesting fact, I never actually got my certificate in the mail. I still have the temporary card thing.
Also, with summer comes my job, and other than backpacks and etc. gear, I'm thinking of getting a rifle for this hunt. Would 7mm-08 do the job for this hunt?
Interesting fact, I never actually got my certificate in the mail. I still have the temporary card thing.
Also, with summer comes my job, and other than backpacks and etc. gear, I'm thinking of getting a rifle for this hunt. Would 7mm-08 do the job for this hunt?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 07:13 PM
I got my online and got verified on it
Chital 7mm-08 with a good bullet won't be an issue. It's just a question of how far the animal is.
Chital 7mm-08 with a good bullet won't be an issue. It's just a question of how far the animal is.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 08:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I got my online and got verified on it
Chital 7mm-08 with a good bullet won't be an issue. It's just a question of how far the animal is.
Chital 7mm-08 with a good bullet won't be an issue. It's just a question of how far the animal is.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 11:10 PM
Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Also, once your hunters ed card has been "verified" by Colorado Parks and Wildlife, when they print your license out on the blue tags, it will have the word "Verified" to the side of your number. In this instance only, you DO NOT have to carry your Hunters Ed card with you while hunting nor will you need it to purchase an over the counter tag after the initial verification date going forward. I haven't shown my hunters ed card in years while buying an over the counter tag. Simply bring the old license and show my drivers license and I am good to go.
Applying online is a different story obviously as others have mentioned.
Applying online is a different story obviously as others have mentioned.
Ditto on the "verified", I haven't carried my "card" in 20 years I don't think. You can get it done at a DOW office, but call to make sure it is still that way.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/25/16 11:40 PM
Old enough to draw social security and can't hunt, what a joke.Was Hillary involved in this.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 01:32 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I got my online and got verified on it
Chital 7mm-08 with a good bullet won't be an issue. It's just a question of how far the animal is.
Chital 7mm-08 with a good bullet won't be an issue. It's just a question of how far the animal is.
We'll see. I have a crap ton of things that I need to get this summer with my mechanic job, top of the list being a two wheeled, street legal vehicle, then a good pack or two.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 01:42 AM
Good thing for me: $100 tag!
What unit is this, and again, 2nd rifle season, correct?
Would it be possible to hunt without a GPS but with maps and compass, like a real BA?
What unit is this, and again, 2nd rifle season, correct?
Would it be possible to hunt without a GPS but with maps and compass, like a real BA?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 02:01 AM
You can do it without a GPS and just use a map and compass. But you may end up on private land and not realize it.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 02:07 AM
Map and compass is fine. I will get a gps soon, because I plan on doing this yearly. First time roll map. I made a specific one on my topo it worked fine.
I would take a 30-06 over the 7mm-08
I would take a 30-06 over the 7mm-08
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 02:13 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Good thing for me: $100 tag!
What unit is this, and again, 2nd rifle season, correct?
Would it be possible to hunt without a GPS but with maps and compass, like a real BA?
What unit is this, and again, 2nd rifle season, correct?
Would it be possible to hunt without a GPS but with maps and compass, like a real BA?
You can down load maps to your phone via onxmaps
But I recommend the Garmin gpsmap64
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 02:19 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
You can do it without a GPS and just use a map and compass. But you may end up on private land and not realize it.
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Map and compass is fine. I will get a gps soon, because I plan on doing this yearly. First time roll map. I made a specific one on my topo it worked fine.
I would take a 30-06 over the 7mm-08
I would take a 30-06 over the 7mm-08
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 01:12 PM
A GPS will all depend on how you want to hunt. We started off with a compass and map, and if you ever get off the beaten path like we did, you'll get lost...and in a lot of places you wont have enough cell service to get a map from your phone. We got lost on day 1 while out and about, this past year. We got lucky enough that where we were, we got 1 bar of service and figured out where the truck was via google maps. Man, that was a long day lol. While we thought we were on a main trail, we were on a game/cattle trail and we were all kinds of turned around.
After day 1, we went back into Durango and picked up a GPS, which I felt was worth it.
A word to the wise...if your ball joints are getting to the point of even possibly needing to be replaced, do it! Mine weren't bad, but we drove up to the top of the mountain almost every day and was in dire need of new ball joints by the end of the trip.
After day 1, we went back into Durango and picked up a GPS, which I felt was worth it.
A word to the wise...if your ball joints are getting to the point of even possibly needing to be replaced, do it! Mine weren't bad, but we drove up to the top of the mountain almost every day and was in dire need of new ball joints by the end of the trip.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 08:16 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
You can do it without a GPS and just use a map and compass. But you may end up on private land and not realize it.
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Map and compass is fine. I will get a gps soon, because I plan on doing this yearly. First time roll map. I made a specific one on my topo it worked fine.
I would take a 30-06 over the 7mm-08
I would take a 30-06 over the 7mm-08
Just tell Derrick at horizon what you want and he will make it...going to have to work for it, but it would be a great gun. I roll with a 300 wm from horizon. Like it a lot. I think 28nosler, 7mm mag, with the 195 may have better ballisticly, but there is no replacement for displacement so i went 300. If you could borrow an 06, I would. The extra power will extend your shooting range, if you are comfortable with it.
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
A GPS will all depend on how you want to hunt. We started off with a compass and map, and if you ever get off the beaten path like we did, you'll get lost...and in a lot of places you wont have enough cell service to get a map from your phone. We got lost on day 1 while out and about, this past year. We got lucky enough that where we were, we got 1 bar of service and figured out where the truck was via google maps. Man, that was a long day lol. While we thought we were on a main trail, we were on a game/cattle trail and we were all kinds of turned around.
After day 1, we went back into Durango and picked up a GPS, which I felt was worth it.
A word to the wise...if your ball joints are getting to the point of even possibly needing to be replaced, do it! Mine weren't bad, but we drove up to the top of the mountain almost every day and was in dire need of new ball joints by the end of the trip.
After day 1, we went back into Durango and picked up a GPS, which I felt was worth it.
A word to the wise...if your ball joints are getting to the point of even possibly needing to be replaced, do it! Mine weren't bad, but we drove up to the top of the mountain almost every day and was in dire need of new ball joints by the end of the trip.
Agreed it depends on how you want to hunt. There are 2-3 trails that are easy to set up on, others not so much. this year I may want to go to some nasty (higher) areas and that will require a gps
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 09:40 PM
I agree on the 30-06 the added power of the round will help you out alot with a elk. And it also opens up a much better selection of bullets and ammo to use. That being said, if you can afford one getting a custom/semicustom rifle never hurts when it comes to a hunt like this.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 11:20 PM
If anyone is interested in going to Colorado to shoot over Memorial Day pm me. Flights would be into Denver.
There is a range nearby that is at approx 7700 feet of elevation. My plan is to zero for range there, to limit impact of elevation change
There is a range nearby that is at approx 7700 feet of elevation. My plan is to zero for range there, to limit impact of elevation change
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/26/16 11:31 PM
I may go up to scout, but Ill zero in Durango in october.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/27/16 12:09 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Very cool. Will need to make my people take the course then!
Interesting fact, I never actually got my certificate in the mail. I still have the temporary card thing.
Also, with summer comes my job, and other than backpacks and etc. gear, I'm thinking of getting a rifle for this hunt. Would 7mm-08 do the job for this hunt?
Interesting fact, I never actually got my certificate in the mail. I still have the temporary card thing.
Also, with summer comes my job, and other than backpacks and etc. gear, I'm thinking of getting a rifle for this hunt. Would 7mm-08 do the job for this hunt?
Yes 7-08 is more then adequate, as with any caliber it's about not out running your ability
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/27/16 12:26 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Very cool. Will need to make my people take the course then!
Interesting fact, I never actually got my certificate in the mail. I still have the temporary card thing.
Also, with summer comes my job, and other than backpacks and etc. gear, I'm thinking of getting a rifle for this hunt. Would 7mm-08 do the job for this hunt?
Interesting fact, I never actually got my certificate in the mail. I still have the temporary card thing.
Also, with summer comes my job, and other than backpacks and etc. gear, I'm thinking of getting a rifle for this hunt. Would 7mm-08 do the job for this hunt?
Yes 7-08 is more then adequate, as with any caliber it's about not out running your ability
Very sage advice BOBO ,seen many many times fellas go up with the "latest and greatest" firearm then hurl out rounds since they hit paper a few times at 600 yards in Texas. I have also seen a crap load of dead elk taken with off the shelf rifle with off the shelf scope.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/27/16 01:37 PM
Mom said no to motorcycle today lol. That means I should have enough to get all the necessaries for the hunt and possible a 7-08, too. Or a 270
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/27/16 03:33 PM
So last year I was concerned with getting "elk hunting" stuff. After doing it... It's just hunting. You shouldn't need to much that you wouldn't use for elk or duck. Stay dry stay warm and carry a gun
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/27/16 05:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
So last year I was concerned with getting "elk hunting" stuff. After doing it... It's just hunting. You shouldn't need to much that you wouldn't use for elk or duck. Stay dry stay warm and carry a gun
...and a knife.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/27/16 06:57 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
So last year I was concerned with getting "elk hunting" stuff. After doing it... It's just hunting. You shouldn't need to much that you wouldn't use for elk or duck. Stay dry stay warm and carry a gun
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/27/16 07:19 PM
So I have an elberlestock x3 you could use for gear. Than if you find a deal on a cargo loader and leave it in the car to haul out an elk
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/28/16 03:37 PM
just a thought
in the second season it might be better to hunt "low" elk move down to lower areas when it gets cold.
everyone wants to run high and helps push them down.
in the second season it might be better to hunt "low" elk move down to lower areas when it gets cold.
everyone wants to run high and helps push them down.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/28/16 04:59 PM
It was too warm last year to hunt low. The elk hadn't migrated yet when we were there.
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 02:24 PM
were their enough hunters in the area to keep them moving?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 04:34 PM
I don't think there were hunters in the right areas. We saw 3-4 bulls in the area. 1-2 were in very inhospitable areas. The one that wasn't is the one sneaky has a chance at
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 04:53 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
You can do it without a GPS and just use a map and compass. But you may end up on private land and not realize it.
Neither is a forest service rescue.
Don't be stupid, get a GPS. You can get one for $100 or so
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 05:31 PM
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
You can do it without a GPS and just use a map and compass. But you may end up on private land and not realize it.
Neither is a forest service rescue.
Don't be stupid, get a GPS. You can get one for $100 or so
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 05:44 PM
CO isn't bad, for the most part head down hill, follow a creek and you will hit a road. Might not be the most pleasant hike but that's the nature of CO. You can go 5 days with out food if you have water. Thats 30-50 miles.
GPS isn't a life saver neither is a map. Common sense and properly packed pack will save you.
GPS is a luxury type asset but if you are depending on one you are already beat. Don't get me wrong love my GPS and never leave home with out it but It doesn't have an SOS button and batteries don't last forever. Big fan of the huntmap chips by onxmaps. More so for boundaries and broad over view of an area before I go into it.
GPS isn't a life saver neither is a map. Common sense and properly packed pack will save you.
GPS is a luxury type asset but if you are depending on one you are already beat. Don't get me wrong love my GPS and never leave home with out it but It doesn't have an SOS button and batteries don't last forever. Big fan of the huntmap chips by onxmaps. More so for boundaries and broad over view of an area before I go into it.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 05:46 PM
Okay...now I'm lost....
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 05:54 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Okay...now I'm lost....
Figure out where you are going to hunt. Get a forest map or just use google. Familiarize your self with the locations of roads and streams... Your exit and entrance points.... Once you look at the map you will understand what I'm saying.
GPS is a luxury item, it is a big huge plus but it won't save your life, only you can save your life.
You can buy a bushel back track for 50bucks. Mark your camp location or trailhead. It's a cheap back up or alternative to a GPS.
Put it this way I would pick up a map & compass and THEN an Inreach way before a GPS if I had limited funds.
Don't HAVE to depend on electronics ever!!!
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 06:05 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Okay...now I'm lost....
Figure out where you are going to hunt. Get a forest map or just use google. Familiarize your self with the locations of roads and streams... Your exit and entrance points.... Once you look at the map you will understand what I'm saying.
GPS is a luxury item, it is a big huge plus but it won't save your life, only you can save your life.
You can by a bushel back track for 50bucks. Mark your camp location or trailhead. It's a cheap back up or alternative to a GPS.
Put it this way I would pick up a map & compass and THEN an Inreach way before a GPS if I had limited funds.
Don't depend on electronics ever!!!
Here's my list of things to get, that I don't have:
elk gun (hypothetical
)2 frame-loader-thingies for meat hauling
"survival" kit
Gun pack similar to the one Cleric posted up. Maybe the same one. (Shout out to you, sir. I will get with you as the time draws nearer.
Thank you)rain gear(?)
Also, I still don't know what unit or area this thing is gonna go down.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 06:19 PM
Yes you are getting closer. You can get a decent GPS for <$250 it will make life easier, but don't depend on it. It's a luxury item. It won't save your life, knowing the area and being prepared will save your life.
It's Colorado, only about 1% of CO you cant walk out and find a road in a day, and you won't be in that 1% hunting on your own any way.
Not to mention it's again it's CO you could build a signal fire that could be seen from Texas in about 20min.
If you cant afford to get a GPS and map/compass then just get a backtrack and map/compass or map/compass and phone GPS app
Most importantly have the right supplies on you not at camp
It's Colorado, only about 1% of CO you cant walk out and find a road in a day, and you won't be in that 1% hunting on your own any way.
Not to mention it's again it's CO you could build a signal fire that could be seen from Texas in about 20min.
If you cant afford to get a GPS and map/compass then just get a backtrack and map/compass or map/compass and phone GPS app
Most importantly have the right supplies on you not at camp
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 06:40 PM
I've rarely used my GPS to get unlost. I've never been in a situation that I couldn't have found my way out without one. It just helped me do it more efficiently at times.
I use mine for boundaries (onXmaps), waypoints, topography, weather, photos, etc. Just the fun stuff. I have maps, a compass, and a decent sense of direction to keep me from getting lost.
Where we hunt, it's hardly the Frank Church. Your biggest fear is wandering into private land, and that's easy enough to avoid.
The unit is 71. I think it is. I never can remember. It's the San Juan National Forest. We camp just north of the scenic highway, halfway between Dolores and Rico.
I use mine for boundaries (onXmaps), waypoints, topography, weather, photos, etc. Just the fun stuff. I have maps, a compass, and a decent sense of direction to keep me from getting lost.
Where we hunt, it's hardly the Frank Church. Your biggest fear is wandering into private land, and that's easy enough to avoid.
The unit is 71. I think it is. I never can remember. It's the San Juan National Forest. We camp just north of the scenic highway, halfway between Dolores and Rico.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 06:48 PM
^^^
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 07:07 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
^^^
Yes x's 2, for a sec, I though you fellas was going to the Yukon
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 07:11 PM
Great info. Thanks to BOBO and Sneaky.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 07:43 PM
Chital, there are maps of that area online that you can look at. You're looking at Taylor Mesa and the surrounding area. You'll be able to see all the roads and trails going through it and it will give you a better idea of what you're dealing with. You can easily get turned around, but I've never seen anyone truly lost. It doesn't take long to find some sort of landmark on the map to get your bearing.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 07:50 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Chital, there are maps of that area online that you can look at. You're looking at Taylor Mesa and the surrounding area. You'll be able to see all the roads and trails going through it and it will give you a better idea of what you're dealing with. You can easily get turned around, but I've never seen anyone truly lost. It doesn't take long to find some sort of landmark on the map to get your bearing.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:03 PM
http://www.mytopo.com/products/hunt-area-unit.cfm?state=CO&species=DEL&gmu=71
Try that. Taylor is close to the middle of that map. The red line underneath it is the highway. The white property around the highway is private. The canyon between Taylor and Stoner is a lovely little place you get to hunt if you burn breakfast. Between the top of Taylor and the highway is mostly where we hunt. It's fairly steep and thick in areas, but there's a solid trail that makes for relatively easy walking, and the bowls on either side open up for some good, but long shots. There's also an atv trail off of Taylor Creek Rd. that's good hunting. Of course, there's a lot of other places that may be just as good that we haven't explored yet. I just tend to focus on those two areas because they have what I like to hunt. The top is easy walking, because it's flat. I avoid it because most of the regulars hunt up there, but elk are up there. They tend to stick to the edges so they can bail off in the steep and thick stuff when you bust them.
Try that. Taylor is close to the middle of that map. The red line underneath it is the highway. The white property around the highway is private. The canyon between Taylor and Stoner is a lovely little place you get to hunt if you burn breakfast. Between the top of Taylor and the highway is mostly where we hunt. It's fairly steep and thick in areas, but there's a solid trail that makes for relatively easy walking, and the bowls on either side open up for some good, but long shots. There's also an atv trail off of Taylor Creek Rd. that's good hunting. Of course, there's a lot of other places that may be just as good that we haven't explored yet. I just tend to focus on those two areas because they have what I like to hunt. The top is easy walking, because it's flat. I avoid it because most of the regulars hunt up there, but elk are up there. They tend to stick to the edges so they can bail off in the steep and thick stuff when you bust them.
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:05 PM
does anyone if they rent horses and /or mules in any of the towns close by?
a mule can carry more than i can.
a mule can carry more than i can.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:18 PM
To add to Sneaky's map link, if you order one of those maps, call and make sure you get one that is not in meters It's still a great map, but converting meters into miles while trying to find your way wasn't much fun.
It's still a great map, but converting meters into miles while trying to find your way wasn't much fun.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:35 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
To add to Sneaky's map link, if you order one of those maps, call and make sure you get one that is not in meters It's still a great map, but converting meters into miles while trying to find your way wasn't much fun.
It's still a great map, but converting meters into miles while trying to find your way wasn't much fun. Meters hurt just as much as miles.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:36 PM
Originally Posted By: rex47
does anyone if they rent horses and /or mules in any of the towns close by?
a mule can carry more than i can.
a mule can carry more than i can.
Someone around there does. I couldn't say who. I like packing them out on my back too much to mess with horses.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:43 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
To add to Sneaky's map link, if you order one of those maps, call and make sure you get one that is not in meters It's still a great map, but converting meters into miles while trying to find your way wasn't much fun.
It's still a great map, but converting meters into miles while trying to find your way wasn't much fun. Meters hurt just as much as miles.
Meters just add headache to the already miles-aches
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:44 PM
oh, I remember what it was...the elevations on the map was in meters. That was completely throwing us off
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 08:47 PM
Yeah, it seemed a whole lot higher than what the map was telling us.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 09:07 PM
You can rent horses but it's expensive. Think park found a place. Also some of the hunting places are not horse friendly.
So chital...there is a massive area to hunt. There are different ways you can hunt it. When we do our get together I will show you the map I got from my topo. Once you figure out the general layout and cardinal directions you should be fine. A gps will come in handy if you are going from trail to trail. It's sometime hard to determine those.
So chital...there is a massive area to hunt. There are different ways you can hunt it. When we do our get together I will show you the map I got from my topo. Once you figure out the general layout and cardinal directions you should be fine. A gps will come in handy if you are going from trail to trail. It's sometime hard to determine those.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 09:55 PM
Ask Shawheel how reliable the trails are marked on the maps and GPS. Sometimes that's worse than just finding them on your own.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 10:10 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I like packing them out on my back too much...
My disturbed young friend.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 10:12 PM
And hey, I lost like 10 pounds recently - where's that frickin' Accountability thread?
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 10:48 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
http://www.mytopo.com/products/hunt-area-unit.cfm?state=CO&species=DEL&gmu=71
Try that. Taylor is close to the middle of that map. The red line underneath it is the highway. The white property around the highway is private. The canyon between Taylor and Stoner is a lovely little place you get to hunt if you burn breakfast. Between the top of Taylor and the highway is mostly where we hunt. It's fairly steep and thick in areas, but there's a solid trail that makes for relatively easy walking, and the bowls on either side open up for some good, but long shots. There's also an atv trail off of Taylor Creek Rd. that's good hunting. Of course, there's a lot of other places that may be just as good that we haven't explored yet. I just tend to focus on those two areas because they have what I like to hunt. The top is easy walking, because it's flat. I avoid it because most of the regulars hunt up there, but elk are up there. They tend to stick to the edges so they can bail off in the steep and thick stuff when you bust them.
Try that. Taylor is close to the middle of that map. The red line underneath it is the highway. The white property around the highway is private. The canyon between Taylor and Stoner is a lovely little place you get to hunt if you burn breakfast. Between the top of Taylor and the highway is mostly where we hunt. It's fairly steep and thick in areas, but there's a solid trail that makes for relatively easy walking, and the bowls on either side open up for some good, but long shots. There's also an atv trail off of Taylor Creek Rd. that's good hunting. Of course, there's a lot of other places that may be just as good that we haven't explored yet. I just tend to focus on those two areas because they have what I like to hunt. The top is easy walking, because it's flat. I avoid it because most of the regulars hunt up there, but elk are up there. They tend to stick to the edges so they can bail off in the steep and thick stuff when you bust them.
See, this is why I love THF. So much insight and knowledge and helpfulness and all that's good in humanity: for the singular reason of hunting.
Thanks
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 11:23 PM
What capacity packs do y'all use? The X3 that Cleric talked about is 2000, the Gunrunner I'm looking at is 1400.
Also, gonna have a separate day pack and frame. Frames I'm looking at: Cabela's pack, Redhead pack, "Pack rabbit"
Also, gonna have a separate day pack and frame. Frames I'm looking at: Cabela's pack, Redhead pack, "Pack rabbit"
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 11:31 PM
You just need enough to carry your day stuff. I think 2k is a good number, but you can always pack more.
You make look for a surplus Alice frame for a cheap hauler
You make look for a surplus Alice frame for a cheap hauler
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/29/16 11:45 PM
I currently have a 18L Browning pack, which is great. But I know that I will need a gun compatible pack out in the field, because this one isn't, and I've had issues within Texas.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:09 AM
my pack can be anywhere from 2900ci to 8000ci depending on how I have it set up
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:15 AM
I've decided on either the X2A1 or the Gunrunner.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:26 AM
Bipods and length depend on how you want to hunt. I keep either a atlas bipod with leg extensions on my rifles or a 9-13" harris swivel bipod, in addition to those I carry a set of primos trigger sticks tripod with me for when I cant go prone. But I also dont mind taking longer shots then alot of people, my last deer was taken at 478yds in durango.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:31 AM
Wi
My disturbed young friend.
Thank you. Haven't been called young, lately.
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I like packing them out on my back too much...
My disturbed young friend.
Thank you. Haven't been called young, lately.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:33 AM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
And hey, I lost like 10 pounds recently - where's that frickin' Accountability thread?
Hopefully someone deleted it.
Well done, by the way. I think I found it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:37 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
http://www.mytopo.com/products/hunt-area-unit.cfm?state=CO&species=DEL&gmu=71
Try that. Taylor is close to the middle of that map. The red line underneath it is the highway. The white property around the highway is private. The canyon between Taylor and Stoner is a lovely little place you get to hunt if you burn breakfast. Between the top of Taylor and the highway is mostly where we hunt. It's fairly steep and thick in areas, but there's a solid trail that makes for relatively easy walking, and the bowls on either side open up for some good, but long shots. There's also an atv trail off of Taylor Creek Rd. that's good hunting. Of course, there's a lot of other places that may be just as good that we haven't explored yet. I just tend to focus on those two areas because they have what I like to hunt. The top is easy walking, because it's flat. I avoid it because most of the regulars hunt up there, but elk are up there. They tend to stick to the edges so they can bail off in the steep and thick stuff when you bust them.
Try that. Taylor is close to the middle of that map. The red line underneath it is the highway. The white property around the highway is private. The canyon between Taylor and Stoner is a lovely little place you get to hunt if you burn breakfast. Between the top of Taylor and the highway is mostly where we hunt. It's fairly steep and thick in areas, but there's a solid trail that makes for relatively easy walking, and the bowls on either side open up for some good, but long shots. There's also an atv trail off of Taylor Creek Rd. that's good hunting. Of course, there's a lot of other places that may be just as good that we haven't explored yet. I just tend to focus on those two areas because they have what I like to hunt. The top is easy walking, because it's flat. I avoid it because most of the regulars hunt up there, but elk are up there. They tend to stick to the edges so they can bail off in the steep and thick stuff when you bust them.
See, this is why I love THF. So much insight and knowledge and helpfulness and all that's good in humanity: for the singular reason of hunting.
Thanks
I'm just getting started, and so are you. You'll hate me later just as much as you like me now. Ever been to the Rockies?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:39 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I've decided on either the X2A1 or the Gunrunner.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
I brought sticks. I will keep in the bag but depends on situation.
Why get a new bag when you can use the x3 for free?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:40 AM
Yes I have. Which is why I carry the rifles I do there. You can end up with some fun shots across canyons.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:43 AM
Personally I would not want to have to pack anything out with either of those packs, they both look like day packs not build to carry loads. The x3 is better suited for carry out. Of those listed.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:45 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I've decided on either the X2A1 or the Gunrunner.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
I do not recommend the gunnerunner as a fall dedicated backcountry day pack it's tiny and serves only a singular purpose.
X2 and M5 are really good packs and can be used for more things. I'd also look at the kuiu 1850 ultra pro because it's modular, you can change out bag sizes and it has a load self so pack can be expanded to 4x the capacity.
The top level (and price point expresses it) are EXO, Kifarui, Mystery Ranch and Stone glacier. Unless you are that 10% you will never know the difference between them, because it takes over 50 lbs to start feeling the difference. And among themselves probably 80lbs
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 12:48 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I've decided on either the X2A1 or the Gunrunner.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
I do not recommend the gunnerunner as a fall dedicated backcountry day pack it's tiny and serves only a singular purpose.
X2 and M5 are really good packs and can be used for more things. I'd also look at the kuiu 1850 ultra pro because it's modular, you can change out bag sizes and it has a load self so pack can be expanded to 4x the capacity.
The top level (and price point expresses it) are EXO, Kifarui, Mystery Ranch and Stone glacier. Unless you are that 10% you will never know the difference between them, because it takes over 50 lbs to start feeling the difference. And in some cases 80lbs.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 01:11 AM
Yelp, If Rick can't tear up a j34... No on can lol. Pretty much their flag ship model.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 02:02 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Yelp, If Rick can't tear up a j34... No on can lol. Pretty much their flag ship model.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 05:14 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
I've decided on either the X2A1 or the Gunrunner.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
Another question: bipods on rifle? I have a BOGPOD tripod that I will get an attachment for, but gun mounted bipod? And what length, too.
I brought sticks. I will keep in the bag but depends on situation.
Why get a new bag when you can use the x3 for free?
However, I may have to get a pack for my dad. So there's that: X2 for him, if we don't figure something out with the my 1098cu Browning bag.
Thanks again.
My impression was this: hunt/afield with pack, if something's dead come back with the head, drop off pack, pick up frame loader alice thing, start packing in animal. No?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 06:03 AM
In theory you are right, however it make take several hours to make each trip so you want a pack that can maximize what you bring back each time.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 06:05 AM
Also keep in mind you have to skin and quarter in the field which takes time, so it can easily turn into a all day and a very long night to deal with a down animal.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 06:11 AM
Indeed.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 01:47 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
In theory you are right, however it make take several hours to make each trip so you want a pack that can maximize what you bring back each time.
Not trying to be mean...but if that's him in his sig an elk quarter may weigh may than him...
Imo (not saying I am the definitive authority) with limited money to buy resources, using an x3 or existing bag and an Alice frame for sub 50$ versus dropping hundreds on a pack is not a good use of money.
My advice is don't look at buying stuff in isolation. Prioritize them. If y'all are going to sleep in a tent do you have a good synthetic sleeping bag? If your are in a truck where will you sleep? Do you have waterproof clothing? Etc.
There were three big ticket items I identified I wanted. Bag, boots, gps. For boots I stuck with my danner pronghorns and they served me well. Gps, I used the gps on my watch and had a good map. So that left me with a bag to buy. But I had all the camping gear. All that was left was odds and ends. Orange vest, game bag, skinning knife, etc
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 02:03 PM
chital_shikari, don't forget you will need an Orange hat, or an Orange top wrap if you wear a cowboy style hat. Small detail, but you would be surprised how many guy's I have seen that had to run to town for a darn hat.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 04:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
In theory you are right, however it make take several hours to make each trip so you want a pack that can maximize what you bring back each time.
Not trying to be mean...but if that's him in his sig an elk quarter may weigh may than him...
Imo (not saying I am the definitive authority) with limited money to buy resources, using an x3 or existing bag and an Alice frame for sub 50$ versus dropping hundreds on a pack is not a good use of money.
My advice is don't look at buying stuff in isolation. Prioritize them. If y'all are going to sleep in a tent do you have a good synthetic sleeping bag? If your are in a truck where will you sleep? Do you have waterproof clothing? Etc.
There were three big ticket items I identified I wanted. Bag, boots, gps. For boots I stuck with my danner pronghorns and they served me well. Gps, I used the gps on my watch and had a good map. So that left me with a bag to buy. But I had all the camping gear. All that was left was odds and ends. Orange vest, game bag, skinning knife, etc
I think I'm good on boots, and you're saying to go all out on a bag instead of cheap frame and borrowed bag? I was thinking the same, but considering it's our first time, I think that getting what "gets the job done" is better than the (insert brand name here) X3339585 .5lb, 3000lb loading, automatic, 4WD pack with built in A/C. You know what I mean?
If I do end up getting a bag, it'll either be X1E or Sitka's Alpine Ruck. Leaning towards the latter because of the minimal weight (I'm a small, skinny dude, remember?), but love the Eberlstock's scabbards. We will see.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 05:46 PM
I am saying figure out where it makes sense to spend money. You don't need to buy everything...
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 05:48 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I am saying figure out where it makes sense to spend money. You don't need to buy everything...
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 05:50 PM
What's a good game bag brand?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 05:56 PM
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 06:15 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 06:55 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
In theory you are right, however it make take several hours to make each trip so you want a pack that can maximize what you bring back each time.
Not trying to be mean...but if that's him in his sig an elk quarter may weigh may than him...
Imo (not saying I am the definitive authority) with limited money to buy resources, using an x3 or existing bag and an Alice frame for sub 50$ versus dropping hundreds on a pack is not a good use of money.
My advice is don't look at buying stuff in isolation. Prioritize them. If y'all are going to sleep in a tent do you have a good synthetic sleeping bag? If your are in a truck where will you sleep? Do you have waterproof clothing? Etc.
There were three big ticket items I identified I wanted. Bag, boots, gps. For boots I stuck with my danner pronghorns and they served me well. Gps, I used the gps on my watch and had a good map. So that left me with a bag to buy. But I had all the camping gear. All that was left was odds and ends. Orange vest, game bag, skinning knife, etc
I think I'm good on boots, and you're saying to go all out on a bag instead of cheap frame and borrowed bag? I was thinking the same, but considering it's our first time, I think that getting what "gets the job done" is better than the (insert brand name here) X3339585 .5lb, 3000lb loading, automatic, 4WD pack with built in A/C. You know what I mean?
If I do end up getting a bag, it'll either be X1E or Sitka's Alpine Ruck. Leaning towards the latter because of the minimal weight (I'm a small, skinny dude, remember?), but love the Eberlstock's scabbards. We will see.
2x the pack of the Sitka
http://www.kuiu.com/hunting-backpacks-pa...-system#start=1
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 07:12 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
In theory you are right, however it make take several hours to make each trip so you want a pack that can maximize what you bring back each time.
Not trying to be mean...but if that's him in his sig an elk quarter may weigh may than him...
Imo (not saying I am the definitive authority) with limited money to buy resources, using an x3 or existing bag and an Alice frame for sub 50$ versus dropping hundreds on a pack is not a good use of money.
My advice is don't look at buying stuff in isolation. Prioritize them. If y'all are going to sleep in a tent do you have a good synthetic sleeping bag? If your are in a truck where will you sleep? Do you have waterproof clothing? Etc.
There were three big ticket items I identified I wanted. Bag, boots, gps. For boots I stuck with my danner pronghorns and they served me well. Gps, I used the gps on my watch and had a good map. So that left me with a bag to buy. But I had all the camping gear. All that was left was odds and ends. Orange vest, game bag, skinning knife, etc
I think I'm good on boots, and you're saying to go all out on a bag instead of cheap frame and borrowed bag? I was thinking the same, but considering it's our first time, I think that getting what "gets the job done" is better than the (insert brand name here) X3339585 .5lb, 3000lb loading, automatic, 4WD pack with built in A/C. You know what I mean?
If I do end up getting a bag, it'll either be X1E or Sitka's Alpine Ruck. Leaning towards the latter because of the minimal weight (I'm a small, skinny dude, remember?), but love the Eberlstock's scabbards. We will see.
2x the pack of the Sitka
http://www.kuiu.com/hunting-backpacks-pa...-system#start=1
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 04/30/16 11:47 PM
Will a 2WD Suburban make it to "camp?"
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 12:19 AM
Only if a Ford is pulling it up the mountain!
If it's dry, shouldn't be an issue. Even if it rains it should be fine. If it snows, not a chance worth taking. Once that front end decides it's heading over the edge, it's time to jump out.
So add to your shopping list: "4wd sub/truck" Your mom is gonna love getting the bill for this hunt. Lol.
If it's dry, shouldn't be an issue. Even if it rains it should be fine. If it snows, not a chance worth taking. Once that front end decides it's heading over the edge, it's time to jump out.
So add to your shopping list: "4wd sub/truck"
Your mom is gonna love getting the bill for this hunt. Lol.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 12:30 AM
Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Only if a Ford is pulling it up the mountain!
If it's dry, shouldn't be an issue. Even if it rains it should be fine. If it snows, not a chance worth taking. Once that front end decides it's heading over the edge, it's time to jump out.
So add to your shopping list: "4wd sub/truck" Your mom is gonna love getting the bill for this hunt. Lol.
If it's dry, shouldn't be an issue. Even if it rains it should be fine. If it snows, not a chance worth taking. Once that front end decides it's heading over the edge, it's time to jump out.
So add to your shopping list: "4wd sub/truck"
Your mom is gonna love getting the bill for this hunt. Lol.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 01:18 AM
Depends on where camp is. It's hard to say because its first come first serve. And how bad the weather is
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 01:36 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Depends on where camp is. It's hard to say because its first come first serve. And how bad the weather is
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 01:43 AM
It will be very tight and you are talking about the X1 I assume and not the tatical x3.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 01:46 AM
And from experience I would recommend this https://store.kifaru.net/mobile/gun-bearers-p30.aspx Over a gun scabbard
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 01:56 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
It will be very tight and you are talking about the X1 I assume and not the tatical x3.
As for a gun cover, I'm waiting for the SOLO HNTR ones to come back in stock.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 02:06 PM
I've never found the gun scabbards very handy until packing out quarters. I just sling my rifle or carry it while hunting.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 03:43 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I've never found the gun scabbards very handy until packing out quarters. I just sling my rifle or carry it while hunting.
Or getting into or out of a very tall blind.
Same thing with bow carries. Always seem you need your weapon when it's stuck to your back.
And if you have a big bell scope or long barrel the scabbard don't work great.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 06:09 PM
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 07:55 PM
They gone!
So scabbard doesn't really matter then, eh?
So scabbard doesn't really matter then, eh?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 08:07 PM
I'm not a fan of the scabbard other then getting in and out of tall box blind.
That's just me.
That's just me.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 08:17 PM
I use it more for other things than my rifle. I can take it or leave it.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 08:19 PM
I just buckled my strap into my chest strap and was fine
The only time the scabbard would be nice is the morning hike up the mountain. After that The gun should be in your hands
The only time the scabbard would be nice is the morning hike up the mountain. After that The gun should be in your hands
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 08:31 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I just buckled my strap into my chest strap and was fine
The only time the scabbard would be nice is the morning hike up the mountain. After that The gun should be in your hands
The only time the scabbard would be nice is the morning hike up the mountain. After that The gun should be in your hands
Kifaru gun bearer.... Only way to roll
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 10:21 PM
king size cotton pillow cases work well for game bags.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 10:52 PM
Settled on the Garmin eTrex 10 to get. Now, what do I do for maps? Other than the GMU 71 map, that is.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/01/16 10:54 PM
Onxmap chip
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/02/16 12:23 AM
Any alternatives lol. Isn't it like $99?
I was thinking of downloading Colorado on my comp for $50, then uploading. But not sure if it has our area/unit.
I was thinking of downloading Colorado on my comp for $50, then uploading. But not sure if it has our area/unit.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/02/16 12:28 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Any alternatives lol. Isn't it like $99?
I was thinking of downloading Colorado on my comp for $50, then uploading. But not sure if it has our area/unit.
I was thinking of downloading Colorado on my comp for $50, then uploading. But not sure if it has our area/unit.
Yes you can make files then down load the files from Garmin base camp. I did google earth with marked feeders and blinds on my lease.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/02/16 12:43 AM
Cool. Will have to play with that this summer.
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/02/16 04:29 PM
do you all bone all the meat out before you pack it out.
just realized i hunted east of stoner about 20 years ago, and hunted east of ouray several times sense.
just realized i hunted east of stoner about 20 years ago, and hunted east of ouray several times sense.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/02/16 05:05 PM
I prefer to do that. I don't usually have much help, so I like to take two quarters, per person, to minimize the number of trips. With that much meat, you don't want anything extra.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/02/16 05:21 PM
Originally Posted By: rex47
do you all bone all the meat out before you pack it out.
just realized i hunted east of stoner about 20 years ago, and hunted east of ouray several times sense.
just realized i hunted east of stoner about 20 years ago, and hunted east of ouray several times sense.
Depends on weather and time to recover. Long time to recover, pulling bone so meat cools quicker. Short time and cool weather no.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/03/16 12:30 AM
on the topic of the scabard, I sure wish I had one last year. My pack was adequate, but it was super hard to carry a rifle. Frame was in the way to sling it over my shoulder. I mostly set it on top of my pack and held it there, could have been a problem though if I slipped and fell.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/03/16 01:49 AM
Yeah, I've had issues with slings and packs. On one shoulder, it'd slip off. Across both, it'd be cumbersome to maneuver in brush. Depending on if my dad or I use the Sitka or X3 (big thanks to Cleric, again), I'll adapt the gun to the pack, both of which have attachment-thingies.
On another note, Fireman helped me out quite a bit today. Not so tactically-dumbfound any more
On another note, Fireman helped me out quite a bit today. Not so tactically-dumbfound any more
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/03/16 02:05 AM
The right sling helps a lot. I prefer Vero Velini. They are made of neoprene, so they don't slip as easy and they are elastic to absorb shock.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/03/16 11:35 PM
I think the sling vs scabbard decision also depends on what your rifle weighs. For me its a no brainer to go with a scabbard, Remington 700 that weighs approx 9 lbs from the factory with a night force atacr, harris bipod, rings, and base is pushing 13 lbs as it is, that will make your shoulder and back hurt reak fast if you only use a sling.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 01:26 AM
I carry rifles that weigh that much, and they don't bother me. An alternative might be better, though. That Kifaru job looks nice.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 01:43 PM
The rifle I'll be toting will be right under 10lb, if all goes to plan.
BOBO, the Kifaru works with other packs/systems? Websites says it's only gonna work with their one pack thing...
BOBO, the Kifaru works with other packs/systems? Websites says it's only gonna work with their one pack thing...
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 01:48 PM
Any pack with webbing on the hipbelt
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 02:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I carry rifles that weigh that much, and they don't bother me. An alternative might be better, though. That Kifaru job looks nice.
You're probably right. I took one rifle in 14 for the first and last time and it weighs in over 13 if it's loaded.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 02:20 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I carry rifles that weigh that much, and they don't bother me. An alternative might be better, though. That Kifaru job looks nice.
You're probably right. I took one rifle in 14 for the first and last time and it weighs in over 13 if it's loaded.
Keep it empty RM DUH
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 02:23 PM
It shouldn't be that heavy when it's sitting on the console.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 02:29 PM
It'll make the trips and serve that purpose, but I'm not going to take off on a morning stroll with it again.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 02:30 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I carry rifles that weigh that much, and they don't bother me. An alternative might be better, though. That Kifaru job looks nice.
You're probably right. I took one rifle in 14 for the first and last time and it weighs in over 13 if it's loaded.
Keep it empty RM DUH
Would come in handy as a club.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 02:53 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I carry rifles that weigh that much, and they don't bother me. An alternative might be better, though. That Kifaru job looks nice.
You're probably right. I took one rifle in 14 for the first and last time and it weighs in over 13 if it's loaded.
Keep it empty RM DUH
Would come in handy as a club.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 03:17 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I carry rifles that weigh that much, and they don't bother me. An alternative might be better, though. That Kifaru job looks nice.
You're probably right. I took one rifle in 14 for the first and last time and it weighs in over 13 if it's loaded.
Keep it empty RM DUH
Would come in handy as a club.
Better yet, leave heavy azz gun at the motel and just carry a couple of rounds, after all, you hunt those easy MD on private land
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 03:20 PM
Lol..I've never hunted on private in CO.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 03:51 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Lol..I've never hunted on private in CO.
Just razing you, "Now raise your right and and repeat after me"
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 03:53 PM
Hand raised - "I will not shoot one off the golf course."
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 04:15 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Hand raised - "I will not shoot one off the golf course."
Sorry, with the proper permission, I couldn't take that oath, seen a few toads on the greens up there!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 05:37 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Hand raised - "I will not shoot one off the golf course."
Well damn there goes my Nov entertainment
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 05:38 PM
Better not walk off the course and start gaining elevation though.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 05:42 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
[quote=rifleman]Hand raised - "I will not shoot one off the golf course."
Well damn there goes my Nov entertainment [/quot
You didn't take the oath, so we are GTG, but I think RM can go so he can carry our rifles, what do you think? to big a liability??
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 05:49 PM
He does have short legs. But he is a hell of a mule
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 05:57 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
He does have short legs. But he is a hell of a mule
All we need brudda, as long as he doesn't throw a shoe, or carry a GPS
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 10:04 PM
More like a pack alpaca...I will spit at you, kick you, bite you for no reason and then leave you stranded bc I was bored and saw a squirrel.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 10:06 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
More like a pack alpaca...I will spit at you, kick you, bite you for no reason and then leave you stranded bc I was bored and saw a squirrel.
Goldstein Jr.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/04/16 10:20 PM
with a lighter
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/05/16 01:55 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
And from experience I would recommend this https://store.kifaru.net/mobile/gun-bearers-p30.aspx Over a gun scabbard
I added this item last year on my New Mexico mule deerhunting and loved it. Easy to get to the gun, gun stays out of the way and weight of gun is distributed to my pack. Well worth the money.
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/06/16 03:05 PM
Just saw this gonna watch. I'm headed back to central colorado in September. We do pack in hunts. Get several miles in then hunt out from there. This will be my second trip. 1st learned a ton and my buddy went without me last year with the plan that we established from the year before. He was flat covered up in elk, but the guy he took was not in the shape needed to chase elk at 12k.. So after 1 day of hunting they headed home.
So I am excited for the trip. Hope my adrenalin gets going at least once this year.
Getting into a work out routine has been tougher this year with a very unpredictable infant. Sleep habits have been all over the place. But I've got to get on track.
So I am excited for the trip. Hope my adrenalin gets going at least once this year.
Getting into a work out routine has been tougher this year with a very unpredictable infant. Sleep habits have been all over the place. But I've got to get on track.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 02:33 PM
I really wish I knew if I could fit my or my cousins travel trailer up there as that would make the nights much more pleasant I think.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 02:44 PM
You can fit the trailer somewhere for sure. If camping in the same location as last year, it wont be very level, and is fairly cramped with any more trucks than what we had last year. PMK and I brought a cab over camper that we put on a 16' flatbed, plus my 4 door long bed dodge. We had a total of 6 trucks in our camp. It wasn't bad, but another truck or two and it would be pretty tight.
If camping up top, there's a lot of open land to set up camp. A lot of it'll just depend on where you want to hunt or how far you want to drive to your chosen trailhead. The gravel road was perfectly fine last year, but we also didn't have any snow or heavy rain. With a good snow or a big rain, there may be a few sketchy spots pulling a big trailer about 3/4 of the way up the mountain.
If camping up top, there's a lot of open land to set up camp. A lot of it'll just depend on where you want to hunt or how far you want to drive to your chosen trailhead. The gravel road was perfectly fine last year, but we also didn't have any snow or heavy rain. With a good snow or a big rain, there may be a few sketchy spots pulling a big trailer about 3/4 of the way up the mountain.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 02:59 PM
Either camper is only 20-21 feet long. I wouldnt want to camp up top anyways.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 03:47 PM
It depends on how many people go and where we sleep.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 03:54 PM
Worst case is there are rv camps in town. Further drive in the morning but do able
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 04:53 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Either camper is only 20-21 feet long. I wouldnt want to camp up top anyways.
we started off up top but before we got camp set up, decided to move to the bottom to split up the distance a bit for the party as some wanted to start from bottom up and some wanted the flatter top skirting the edges hunting down. IF the camp area is available (1st come 1st served) at the bottom, there is room for several trailers but as stated, pretty sloped (take some boards to place under tires on downhill side). We were kinda haphazard with set up IMO, but most were sleeping in their trucks (cab, camper shell, back of Excursion) and with more trailers, with a little planning, could accommodate several more trailers.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 04:59 PM
If we were to get a couple of people into the rv that would make life easier as other trucks could be parked outside the camp site
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 05:52 PM
Both of the ones I have access to only have 1 bed in them, aside from loosing the table.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 07:24 PM
If you are set on taking a camper, you have plenty of options. Camp would almost certainly do, but in the event it does not, there are other areas in the national forest as well as rv parks in town. We stayed at an rv park in town one year because of snow. It's not a bad drive.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 07:40 PM
As we get closer we can figure it out. I need/want a rv for the deer lease and am looking at something like,a hybrid to give max room for people.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 07:40 PM
Im not set on it. Just considering all of my options, as the idea of setting up and taking down a shelter in my truck every day sounds like a pain in the butt.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 07:43 PM
Some people just slept in the seat so they drove . if that's the biggest issue we work through than the trip is good
. if that's the biggest issue we work through than the trip is good
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 08:08 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Some people just slept in the seat so they drove . if that's the biggest issue we work through than the trip is good
. if that's the biggest issue we work through than the trip is good
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 08:26 PM
It was odd seeing sneaky sleep in the front seat...
I slept in my camper shell...
I slept in my camper shell...
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 08:39 PM
If you are short (5'10" or less) like myself, it's quite convenient to sleep on the backseat. I used a thick foam mattress pad in b/w my sleeping bag and the seat. Quite comfortable. I think I may migrate to a large 4-season tent I can slide a cot into this trip though. I agree, it was cumbersome to have to re-pack your truck when you and others were gonna load up and go somewhere.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 09:47 PM
The 4 season tent with a cot would work also or a air mattress. maybe pitch the tent on a small utility trailer so your off the ground and level.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 10:02 PM
Sleeping in the front seat takes some getting used to. I do it so well because it was my only option for three years of no break from work. I wouldn't recommend it without some practice, first.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 10:26 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
The 4 season tent with a cot would work also or a air mattress. maybe pitch the tent on a small utility trailer so your off the ground and level.
That is what probably 98% do, works almost every time and beats the hell out of staying in truck... Bunch of tents around a community fire, sure makes for great times, even after a long day in the woods, that part is almost the best.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 10:30 PM
4" foam from wally world with blanket and sleeping bag and maybe an extra blanket for a top and you will be GTG, on a cot it is even better, you can sit up while you try to figure out where the hell you are the 1st few seconds.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 10:59 PM
Tent with a cot was very comfortable in '14. Lots of room for an old man's stuff.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 11:07 PM
CR, If I'm not mistaken, I almost bought that same tent, before finding the camper I wanted, kind of mid price with a outfitters tent being on the high end, but that tent was a hell of a deal for how it was made, great reviews all over the net too
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 11:12 PM
Good looking tent
Issue is flat ground...not sure we had enough for a lot of tents like that.
Issue is flat ground...not sure we had enough for a lot of tents like that.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 11:51 PM
I bet y'all could find a better spot, being you have to drive to hunt anyway the way I understand it.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/10/16 11:51 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Sleeping in the front seat takes some getting used to. I do it so well because it was my only option for three years of no break from work. I wouldn't recommend it without some practice, first.
Remote start and heated seats?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 02:13 AM
Nah. Just a sleeping bag. The ignition is right there if it gets too cold.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 03:14 AM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Tent with a cot was very comfortable in '14. Lots of room for an old man's stuff.
I remember that campsite well. I won't be bringing that tiny tent next time, I'm going with full-size comfort.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 03:26 AM
CR, that spot looks plenty big and level enough........
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 03:30 AM
That was the old campsite. It was great, but the drive to the main hunting spots was kind of long. It would certainly do again if a spot like that was needed, though.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 04:48 AM
How cold does it get anyway? I think our sleeping bags are rated to 30 or 40 degrees F.
Any tent recommendations for 4-6 guys? Or just get one per person?
Any tent recommendations for 4-6 guys? Or just get one per person?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 12:05 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
How cold does it get anyway? I think our sleeping bags are rated to 30 or 40 degrees F.
Any tent recommendations for 4-6 guys? Or just get one per person?
Any tent recommendations for 4-6 guys? Or just get one per person?
I have seen in get down to 8* in 2nd season, but generally in the upper teens at night, depending what elevation you're at. I have also seen it stay in the 40's and get into the upper 70's in the day time. That is country you go prepared for anything, as it can change often in 20 minutes.
My sleeping bags are usually 0ish degree, but most bring what you have, works fine if you bring a couple of extra blankets for layering and a foam bottom for the ground or cot, having safe supplemental heat can make a huge difference as well.
As far as tents, that would be personal decision, but the one Creekrunner posted is a great tent, it is the Kodiak Canvas flex bow if I'm not mistaken in 10'x10', they also have a 10x14'. I had an old army general purpose tent we used for over 15 years, 18' across octagon, it was big enough for 6 guys and all the gear. You can still get them, but they are like outfitter tents and are expensive, but super well made. If you will be using a heat source, it is much easier to use for a group in a bigger tent IMO, less crap to haul up there.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 01:22 PM
For heat source in a tent/camper....we found out that my Mr. Buddy heater did NOT like the altitude/low oxygen. Not sure if the low oxygen sensor is what was causing it to barely work.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 01:32 PM
Well there goes that idea...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 01:46 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
For heat source in a tent/camper....we found out that my Mr. Buddy heater did NOT like the altitude/low oxygen. Not sure if the low oxygen sensor is what was causing it to barely work.
Best we found for less work at camp, was using propane bottles and a deerborn heater I pulled from an old house, bathroom size. We use it on low at night with plenty of vent, but cranked it up when everyone was waking up. Had a hose long enough to go under the tent flap, so the bottle was kept outside. We also tried electric with a large honda generator I had, it worked.
Also had had a friend that just bought a wood burner for his outfitter tent, actually my favorite, because I like the pinon smell, but that comes with more camp work gathering wood, not a huge deal though.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 01:47 PM
Just get an Arctic rated (subzero) sleeping bag and not sleep in your base layers.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 01:52 PM
I would make someone a good a deal on the pop-up cabover camper ZK-315 & I took last year. Comfortably sleeps 2 people in separate beds. If you put it in the bed of a truck (we had it mounted on a 16' trailer), you could use the jacks to take it off the truck at camp & level it within minutes and just leave it set up on the ground to free up the truck bed during the hunt. Should fit in long or short bed (with tail gate down).
the weather is just too unpredictable to not plan for wide temperature and condition swings.
the weather is just too unpredictable to not plan for wide temperature and condition swings.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 02:01 PM
Years ago we had eight guys that hunted east of Platoro north of the Conejos river and camped around 9,00 ft and one of the guys was a army supply sergeant and cobbed onto a huge wall tent ( 14x30 ) that had two stove vents one for cooking ans one for heat. It took about 5 guys to put it up but we had plenty of room for cots and gear and was very comfortable. Did have to rake snow off a couple times but will remember that hunt the rest of my life.Wish I wasn't so long in the tooth or I would join you guys.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 02:03 PM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Just get an Arctic rated (subzero) sleeping bag and not sleep in your base layers.
Those are great, I had a mummy bag one time I ended up giving away, it was too hot for me. Actually I traded him for the new 020* he brought, much better since I can stand the cold better than heat.
Expect to burn a Franklin for a damn good bag though.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 02:14 PM
I'll have to look at what sleeping bag I have, but I was plenty toasty last year. I can't stand mummy bags, as I toss and turn a lot and a mummy bag restricts that too much. I'll look at the brand, but the outside of it has the material like a Carhartt jacket, and the inside is flannel. I prefer it much better over the mummy bag I've got.
Edit: I found it... It a Magellan Outdoors bag. I wouldn't want to backpack with it, but if you have a base camp, its great.
Magellan Outdoors Sleeping Bag
Edit: I found it... It a Magellan Outdoors bag. I wouldn't want to backpack with it, but if you have a base camp, its great.
Magellan Outdoors Sleeping Bag
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 03:03 PM
ZK, I have that one, or one similar to it, my favorite kind with those materials. Don't like the mummy for the same reasons. I have found that a 20-30* bag works fine if you have 2 and/or a couple warm blankets if needed, but I am cold nature'd.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 03:14 PM
I love that bag. Although it never really got real cold last year, I typically slept it a pair of gym shorts and even got hot a few times. The only time I got cold was when I first got into that cold sleeping bag each night
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 03:20 PM
Hey man, getting into a cold bag is the best part LOL! And last year was plain nut's!! not the norm for sure. But that time of year, you just really don't know.
The year I went with my broke leg, it was 18* opening morning, got my bull and the rest of the season was in the upper 40's, low 50's at night and up to almost 80* in the day, took the elk about 10 minutes to head back higher, I was very fortunate.
The year I went with my broke leg, it was 18* opening morning, got my bull and the rest of the season was in the upper 40's, low 50's at night and up to almost 80* in the day, took the elk about 10 minutes to head back higher, I was very fortunate.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 04:25 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
ZK, I have that one, or one similar to it, my favorite kind with those materials. Don't like the mummy for the same reasons. I have found that a 20-30* bag works fine if you have 2 and/or a couple warm blankets if needed, but I am cold nature'd.
wouldn't that be hot natured?
"A cold-natured person is someone who more often feels cold than warm. Cold-natured people tend to be cold even when others around them are warm or when they experience higher temperatures."
I always considered myself "hot natured" since I usually am wearing shorts and a t-shirt when others have long sleeves/pants and a jacket. Example of "cold natured" comes to mind when I think of a vehicle that runs rough or doesn't idle well when the temperatures are cold/cooler, meaning it doesn't like cooler temperatures.
semantics probably.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 04:32 PM
Yeah PMK, got it twisted around, wife calls me hot natured because I am hot all the time, hardly ever use more than a sheet if that here. Of course she cant tell North from South either
BTW, I bet you'd sell that camper, if you included a couple elk tags
BTW, I bet you'd sell that camper, if you included a couple elk tags
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 04:35 PM
Just buy a sleeping bag liner. It will add up to 25 degrees of warmth depending on the one you get at a fraction of the cost of a new subzero bag. Plus it keeps your sleeping bag cleaner. I have several different temperature rated ones and use them with all my bags. Just wash the liner when I am done. Keeps the bag smelling fresh a lot longer.
http://www.seatosummit.com/travel-and-sleeping-bag-liners/
http://www.seatosummit.com/travel-and-sleeping-bag-liners/
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 05:33 PM
I'll cover the cost of a couple of elk tags with the sale ... but of course that cost will be rolled into the selling price of the camper
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 05:48 PM
OHH, so your a conservative re-seller Why are you selling? not going again, or buy that house ZK and I was pushing for?
Why are you selling? not going again, or buy that house ZK and I was pushing for?
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 06:08 PM
Great info y'all.
Now everyone's probably gonna get mad at me for this, but I won't be able to make it out this year. Realized that this requires a week off from school, and I'm only two semester away from being done with High school forever and don't want to risk any truancy stuff. Also some other logistical barriers that I would need to break down to make it happen.
That also means I won't be making that "hypothetical gun" a reality. Shoot me.
There's also other personal issues, but I won't talk about that. Sorry for any inconveniences, and thank you all so much for the help. Learned a lot from this thread and the other, and will definitely use it. Looking forward to being out of school so I can do this hunt.
chital
Now everyone's probably gonna get mad at me for this, but I won't be able to make it out this year. Realized that this requires a week off from school, and I'm only two semester away from being done with High school forever and don't want to risk any truancy stuff. Also some other logistical barriers that I would need to break down to make it happen.
That also means I won't be making that "hypothetical gun" a reality. Shoot me.
There's also other personal issues, but I won't talk about that. Sorry for any inconveniences, and thank you all so much for the help. Learned a lot from this thread and the other, and will definitely use it. Looking forward to being out of school so I can do this hunt.
chital
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 06:13 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
So, camp would really just be a place to sleep? Hunting all day, unless your lazy/can't, right? So then you just need enough tent space to sleep. Can gear in trucks until use in morning?
Pretty much, for the most part. We generally had dinner at camp, hung out after the hunt and bs'ed a little...or a lot. I wouldn't necessarily call it lazy, more like resting
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 06:21 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
So, camp would really just be a place to sleep? Hunting all day, unless your lazy/can't, right? So then you just need enough tent space to sleep. Can gear in trucks until use in morning?
Pretty much, for the most part. We generally had dinner at camp, hung out after the hunt and bs'ed a little...or a lot. I wouldn't necessarily call it lazy, more like resting
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 06:35 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Great info y'all.
Now everyone's probably gonna get mad at me for this, but I won't be able to make it out this year. Realized that this requires a week off from school, and I'm only two semester away from being done with High school forever and don't want to risk any truancy stuff. Also some other logistical barriers that I would need to break down to make it happen.
That also means I won't be making that "hypothetical gun" a reality. Shoot me.
There's also other personal issues, but I won't talk about that. Sorry for any inconveniences, and thank you all so much for the help. Learned a lot from this thread and the other, and will definitely use it. Looking forward to being out of school so I can do this hunt.
chital
Now everyone's probably gonna get mad at me for this, but I won't be able to make it out this year. Realized that this requires a week off from school, and I'm only two semester away from being done with High school forever and don't want to risk any truancy stuff. Also some other logistical barriers that I would need to break down to make it happen.
That also means I won't be making that "hypothetical gun" a reality. Shoot me.
There's also other personal issues, but I won't talk about that. Sorry for any inconveniences, and thank you all so much for the help. Learned a lot from this thread and the other, and will definitely use it. Looking forward to being out of school so I can do this hunt.
chital
No problem at all. Education is more important. I would still follow the thread. Lots of wise people and me posting in here.
Are the others interested or is your whole group out?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 07:26 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
OHH, so your a conservative re-seller Why are you selling? not going again, or buy that house ZK and I was pushing for?
Why are you selling? not going again, or buy that house ZK and I was pushing for?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 07:55 PM
Makes sense, I bet ZK could take the whole family and grandpa could babysit!
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 08:10 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Great info y'all.
Now everyone's probably gonna get mad at me for this, but I won't be able to make it out this year. Realized that this requires a week off from school, and I'm only two semester away from being done with High school forever and don't want to risk any truancy stuff. Also some other logistical barriers that I would need to break down to make it happen.
That also means I won't be making that "hypothetical gun" a reality. Shoot me.
There's also other personal issues, but I won't talk about that. Sorry for any inconveniences, and thank you all so much for the help. Learned a lot from this thread and the other, and will definitely use it. Looking forward to being out of school so I can do this hunt.
chital
Now everyone's probably gonna get mad at me for this, but I won't be able to make it out this year. Realized that this requires a week off from school, and I'm only two semester away from being done with High school forever and don't want to risk any truancy stuff. Also some other logistical barriers that I would need to break down to make it happen.
That also means I won't be making that "hypothetical gun" a reality. Shoot me.
There's also other personal issues, but I won't talk about that. Sorry for any inconveniences, and thank you all so much for the help. Learned a lot from this thread and the other, and will definitely use it. Looking forward to being out of school so I can do this hunt.
chital
No problem at all. Education is more important. I would still follow the thread. Lots of wise people and me posting in here.
Are the others interested or is your whole group out?
Well, my dad is out, too, and the others won't go without him. Heck, they wouldn't go without me. So for this year, I think we're all gonna be out. Will let you know if anything changes.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 11:10 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Makes sense, I bet ZK could take the whole family and grandma (don't let her see you call her that! Nana) could babysit!
FIFY
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/11/16 11:20 PM
That would work too
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/12/16 05:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK
ZK
Ringworm
cmorsch
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Creek runner
Shaw wheel
Kusai
Updated, I think the list is correct.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/12/16 05:58 PM
Looks right so far
The end of this month I will pm everyone and start to figure out dates for a get together.
I am thinking late July/ early August.
The end of this month I will pm everyone and start to figure out dates for a get together.
I am thinking late July/ early August.
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/12/16 10:42 PM
I love this thread with all its useful info. I've been watching every post of the 2015 and now the 2016. I can't make 2016 but I am planning for the 2017.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/13/16 01:48 AM
Awesome!
Lots of good info in here
Lots of good info in here
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/13/16 05:19 AM
My heart's still fixated on CO, but gotta finish HS strong. Plus, TX ain't too shabby for weekend hunts, eh?
Would it be wrong if I still asked questions on this, as I won't be going?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/13/16 06:36 PM
Ask away. It's a multipurpose kind of thread.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/15/16 03:55 PM
If anyone is looking for a really good backcountry pant. I highly recommend these. They are on clearance right now because 2016 model went to exact waist sizing instead of m, l, xl etc
These are a steal and they rival the kuiu attach pants. I'm a 36 and wear L
http://www.campsaver.com/stretch-zion-pants-men-s
These are a steal and they rival the kuiu attach pants. I'm a 36 and wear L
http://www.campsaver.com/stretch-zion-pants-men-s
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/15/16 09:25 PM
On clothes: cotton is a no-no, but would the generic deer hunting cold weather stuff work?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/15/16 11:26 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
On clothes: cotton is a no-no, but would the generic deer hunting cold weather stuff work?
Depends on what it is, and how you hunt.
Most backcountry type clothing is a layering system so as you move around and heat up you shed, as you sit and glass you layer back up.
As depends on how cold we are talking
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/16/16 08:15 PM
The travel trailer is out for me, was doing some research on it and its not something that I want to deal with that time of year at least not with my current vehicle.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/16/16 08:26 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
The travel trailer is out for me, was doing some research on it and its not something that I want to deal with that time of year at least not with my current vehicle.
They are darned handy to have hunting or camping with little kids. They are a PITA the rest of the time.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/16/16 08:36 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
The travel trailer is out for me, was doing some research on it and its not something that I want to deal with that time of year at least not with my current vehicle.
Depending on your schedule you can ride with me if you want...
Last year I left at noonish on Thursday and overnight in nm. Than drove straight home sat morning.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/16/16 09:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
The travel trailer is out for me, was doing some research on it and its not something that I want to deal with that time of year at least not with my current vehicle.
Depending on your schedule you can ride with me if you want...
Last year I left at noonish on Thursday and overnight in nm. Than drove straight home sat morning.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/23/16 08:49 PM
The draw is in progress for anyone how put in for deer/cow tags. Hopefully they will post the results soon.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/23/16 08:55 PM
Wish I had a mule deer tag last year. We saw one about 40 yards away from us that would have taken a dirt nap.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/29/16 11:19 PM
PMs out for a get together end of july beginning of aug
except for sneaky who is over PM limit
except for sneaky who is over PM limit
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/30/16 02:53 PM
Just let me know when and where.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 05/30/16 03:23 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
PMs out for a get together end of july beginning of aug
except for sneaky who is over PM limit
except for sneaky who is over PM limit
Sorry. I'll go clear some out.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/02/16 06:08 PM
Well crap! Unsuccessful for my cow tag Oh well it was worth a try. Still planning on going, just really wanted that cow tag!
Oh well it was worth a try. Still planning on going, just really wanted that cow tag!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/03/16 04:16 AM
For some all the newbies or even vets.
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/03/16 04:27 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
For some all the newbies or even vets.
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/03/16 04:36 AM
It's really good stuff chital.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/03/16 11:52 AM
I'll have to check that out at some point.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/03/16 08:08 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'll have to check that out at some point.
when i get some free time
I really do want to check this out...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/05/16 12:50 AM
Has the meeting date been set yet?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/05/16 06:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'll have to check that out at some point.
when i get some free time
I really do want to check this out...
Order it and do a module a day on your phone. It's really geared toward bow hunting but it gives lots of good info.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/05/16 06:56 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Has the meeting date been set yet?
Another round of PMs should go out tonight
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'll have to check that out at some point.
when i get some free time
I really do want to check this out...
Order it and do a module a day on your phone. It's really geared toward bow hunting but it gives lots of good info.
I was going to buy a cross bow for deer hunting. Now I am thinking I should just go compound so that I can hunt in more states
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/05/16 07:12 PM
Join the brotherhood.....
A screaming, tree trashing, pissed off 800lb bull is the pinnacle of any addiction
A screaming, tree trashing, pissed off 800lb bull is the pinnacle of any addiction
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/05/16 08:46 PM
There is nothing like hunting elk in the rut. Choosing compound over crossbow is worth it just for that one reason alone.
Posted By: TxHunter18
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 02:02 AM
What unit did y'all hunt last year?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 10:59 AM
71
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 02:13 PM
My thought is that the weather is not nasty enough so they are going to stay where it's harder to get.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 02:14 PM
I was thinking of going into priest gultch or drive to the top of the Mesa and hunt the Devils side on the back side
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 02:32 PM
hope you have some non-shred britches for that trek ...
Posted By: jeffbird
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 02:51 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
My thought is that the weather is not nasty enough so they are going to stay where it's harder to get.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
Keep in mind having to pack an animal out if successful.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 03:04 PM
You don't need a trailhead across the river. It would just take some time and planning to pick a way up.
I have some ideas on how to attack Priest Gulch on foot. I don't know how well it would work, having never done it, but I have some ideas.
Where is the Devil's side? If it's due north, through the gate at the end of the road, that's huntable. If it's between Taylor and Stoner, it's earned its name, and I wouldn't bother.
I have some ideas on how to attack Priest Gulch on foot. I don't know how well it would work, having never done it, but I have some ideas.
Where is the Devil's side? If it's due north, through the gate at the end of the road, that's huntable. If it's between Taylor and Stoner, it's earned its name, and I wouldn't bother.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 03:05 PM
Originally Posted By: jeffbird
Originally Posted By: Cleric
My thought is that the weather is not nasty enough so they are going to stay where it's harder to get.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
Keep in mind having to pack an animal out if successful.
That's true enough. Most of the places we're talking about would be fine. Priest Gulch could be tricky.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 04:40 PM
Originally Posted By: jeffbird
Originally Posted By: Cleric
My thought is that the weather is not nasty enough so they are going to stay where it's harder to get.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
Keep in mind having to pack an animal out if successful.
I would take that problem as opposed to not getting one
I am interested in priest gulch more and more. Can drive to the top and hunting along the top and drop Ina's needed
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 05:57 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: jeffbird
Originally Posted By: Cleric
My thought is that the weather is not nasty enough so they are going to stay where it's harder to get.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
So my thought would be to take my tent and trek up and camp overnight. I saw that place on the other side of the river but there is no trail head there.
Keep in mind having to pack an animal out if successful.
That's true enough. Most of the places we're talking about would be fine. Priest Gulch could be tricky.
Just take a frying pan, some holes you just cook'm and eat'm there
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 06:01 PM
Priest Gulch? Is that the area we went that first day for water? There seemed to be quite a few other hunters over there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 06:07 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Priest Gulch? Is that the area we went that first day for water? There seemed to be quite a few other hunters over there.
No, it's the other direction. It's a big, nasty canyon that most people hunt with horses. The north end isn't so bad, though.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 06:19 PM
I am looking at it on google earth right now, looks like it might be doable if go in from the top and work your way down from the road. I explored some of those roads my last day there.
Posted By: TxHunter18
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 06:34 PM
How did the numbers look last year.? Did y'all see some elk.?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/06/16 06:35 PM
Think everyone saw elk
Sneaky had a shot on one
Saw a great 6 pointer but was 1050 yards away
Sneaky had a shot on one
Saw a great 6 pointer but was 1050 yards away
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/08/16 01:03 AM
Did the second set of messages ever go out?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/08/16 04:00 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
For some all the newbies or even vets.
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
I bought it... Figured 50 is a drop in the bucket on an elk hunt.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/08/16 04:00 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Did the second set of messages ever go out?
Let me make sure I sent it...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/08/16 04:14 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
For some all the newbies or even vets.
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
I bought it... Figured 50 is a drop in the bucket on an elk hunt.
We spend thousands on gear, but knowledge is everything. Money well spent.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/08/16 12:32 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
For some all the newbies or even vets.
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
Cory Jacobson -9x World Elk calling champ......
Put an all encompassing 16part online course together. How to use googleearth to scout, GPS, calling, draw odds etc.
I was bored and thought I would try it for $49. Still got a few modules left but it's pretty good stuff
It's pretty impressive. over 120,000 words, 60+ video components, and hundreds of diagrams and images
http://www.elk101.com/onlinecourse
I bought it... Figured 50 is a drop in the bucket on an elk hunt.
We spend thousands on gear, but knowledge is everything. Money well spent.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/09/16 09:29 PM
If anyone else is interested in elk101 I have a code to get the price back down to 50
Pm me and I will give you it
Pm me and I will give you it
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/09/16 11:41 PM
Seven grand for a rifle and scope, take a thousand bucks for rifle and spend the other six and hunt on private land.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/10/16 01:30 AM
Custom rifles add up really fast, 5k its very easy to do in the custom world before glass. Add to the your optics and other things, bipods, slings, ACI. 7k comes very quick.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/10/16 02:31 AM
Originally Posted By: bp3
Seven grand for a rifle and scope, take a thousand bucks for rifle and spend the other six and hunt on private land.
Lot of animals killed with less than a thousand set up. But if you want to push your range out, semi customs are nice
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/10/16 03:16 AM
Just had to jerk your string, I couldn't justify spending that much coin for a rifle but each to their own.Enjoy keeping up with this blog and hope ever one the best of luck.
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/10/16 12:47 PM
If i put 7k in a rifle, i would expect to be able to mail the rifle to a back woods location and it would text me when it shot the animal i sent it after (chain jerk) LOL
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/10/16 02:00 PM
^^^^yes!
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/14/16 12:37 AM
First of 2 refund checks arrived today.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/14/16 12:25 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
First of 2 refund checks arrived today.
I got my Mulie. I have 3 more coming
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/14/16 12:28 PM
Yep MD went out fast, got mine last Tuesday! Now waiting on the elk tag before I believe I got one....
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/14/16 12:33 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Yep MD went out fast, got mine last Tuesday! Now waiting on the elk tag before I believe I got one....
Weird last year the Mulie was last one I got.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/14/16 12:48 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Western
Yep MD went out fast, got mine last Tuesday! Now waiting on the elk tag before I believe I got one....
Weird last year the Mulie was last one I got.
Yes sir, usually a month wait for me.
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/16/16 04:52 PM
Just a heads up; Cabelas in Allen has Eberlestock packs in the bargain cave
J107 for $222
Team Elk pack $183
Transition pack $105
Gunrunner $99
J107 for $222
Team Elk pack $183
Transition pack $105
Gunrunner $99
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/16/16 08:28 PM
Damn that's great deal on the j and elk pack.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 01:58 AM
Sure is.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 08:58 AM
Anyone in the area of Allen want to stop and buy me one of those Team Elk packs? I am out of the country right now
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 11:09 AM
I'm dang near in Mexico, myself.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 11:19 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm dang near in Mexico, myself.
And you didn't stop by. I'm cut to the quick.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 11:43 AM
I am in Sunny south England right now, and no it is not sunny! lmao. I am going to call and see if they still have one, and if they do if I can buy it over the phone. Maybe
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 01:39 PM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I'm dang near in Mexico, myself.
And you didn't stop by. I'm cut to the quick.
Wrong direction, or I would have. Maybe later this month, if you're around.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 01:40 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
I am in Sunny south England right now, and no it is not sunny! lmao. I am going to call and see if they still have one, and if they do if I can buy it over the phone. Maybe
That doesn't sound so bad. I wouldn't mind catching a job over there just to see what it's like.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 02:36 PM
Well I just called the Cabela's in Allen and they say they are sold out of those bags, but it was a guy at the front desk so no telling if he had a clue or not. Won't let me purchase over the phone anyway So if anyone is going that way and they still have them I would be willing to send money if you pick up a J107 or team elk for me
So if anyone is going that way and they still have them I would be willing to send money if you pick up a J107 or team elk for me
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/17/16 06:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Well I just called the Cabela's in Allen and they say they are sold out of those bags, but it was a guy at the front desk so no telling if he had a clue or not. Won't let me purchase over the phone anyway So if anyone is going that way and they still have them I would be willing to send money if you pick up a J107 or team elk for me
So if anyone is going that way and they still have them I would be willing to send money if you pick up a J107 or team elk for me
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 02:09 AM
Little over 4 months away...need to start getting in shape
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 02:52 AM
Shoot, Sneaky has been working out for 2 years now, he could prolly whoop the "Rock" by now!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 03:11 AM
I am not as hardcore as sneaky....
So for me it's work out time
So for me it's work out time
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 04:59 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I am not as hardcore as sneaky....
So for me it's work out time
So for me it's work out time
I'm down 18lbs..... Just saying...slacker
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 05:16 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I am not as hardcore as sneaky....
So for me it's work out time
So for me it's work out time
I'm down 18lbs..... Just saying...slacker
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 05:23 PM
If that was true I wouldn't be hunting CO this year... I'd be in NM or AZ on private ground with great ground transportation....
But speaking of money I need to sale my packet here shortly since I went with a smaller version.
Any one interested in 1st generation EXO 3500 in brown PM me
But speaking of money I need to sale my packet here shortly since I went with a smaller version.
Any one interested in 1st generation EXO 3500 in brown PM me
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 05:40 PM
I've been slacking. I'm in about the same shape as last year.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 05:57 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I am not as hardcore as sneaky....
So for me it's work out time
So for me it's work out time
I'm down 18lbs..... Just saying...slacker
My goal is 30 in 3 months... Should be a crappy time
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I've been slacking. I'm in about the same shape as last year.
Still better than some....
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
If that was true I wouldn't be hunting CO this year... I'd be in NM or AZ on private ground with great ground transportation....
But speaking of money I need to sale my packet here shortly since I went with a smaller version.
Any one interested in 1st generation EXO 3500 in brown PM me
But speaking of money I need to sale my packet here shortly since I went with a smaller version.
Any one interested in 1st generation EXO 3500 in brown PM me
20$??
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 06:04 PM
Lol... I'll buy yours for $25
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 06:12 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Lol... I'll buy yours for $25
Sneaky spit on me so you wouldn't want it...
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/21/16 06:13 PM
I walked 2 miles this morning, then trimmed some trees and piled the limbs. I'm through for the day. Fat as ever. Skeered to stand on the scale after Fathers Day weekend.
"The doctor said to watch my weight, so I've got it out there where I can see it."
"The doctor said to watch my weight, so I've got it out there where I can see it."
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/22/16 01:20 AM
I am calling it now. I will hold down camp next year. Y'all making me tired with all this cardio.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/29/16 05:19 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I am not as hardcore as sneaky....
So for me it's work out time
So for me it's work out time
I'm down 18lbs..... Just saying...slacker
10 down.... 20 to go
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/29/16 10:57 PM
Keep on keepin' on.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/29/16 10:57 PM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
I am calling it now. I will hold down camp next year. Y'all making me tired with all this cardio.
Camp? Shoot, I've got a trail picked out just for you.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:02 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: A.B.
I am calling it now. I will hold down camp next year. Y'all making me tired with all this cardio.
Camp? Shoot, I've got a trail picked out just for you.
All downhill I hope.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:04 AM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: A.B.
I am calling it now. I will hold down camp next year. Y'all making me tired with all this cardio.
Camp? Shoot, I've got a trail picked out just for you.
All downhill I hope.
You can come with me to Idaho this year
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:23 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: A.B.
I am calling it now. I will hold down camp next year. Y'all making me tired with all this cardio.
Camp? Shoot, I've got a trail picked out just for you.
All downhill I hope.
You can come with me to Idaho this year
Do I get your tag?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:28 AM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: A.B.
I am calling it now. I will hold down camp next year. Y'all making me tired with all this cardio.
Camp? Shoot, I've got a trail picked out just for you.
All downhill I hope.
Of course. On the way back, anyway.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:34 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: A.B.
I am calling it now. I will hold down camp next year. Y'all making me tired with all this cardio.
Camp? Shoot, I've got a trail picked out just for you.
All downhill I hope.
You can come with me to Idaho this year
Hunted the Bitterroot range with my uncle as a much younger man. Took me a month to recover. He killed a 340 inch 6X6 and I had a chance, but passed on a 250 yard shot thinking he would get closer, and he just disappeared. Still regret not squeezing one off.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:34 AM
I didn't draw any tags this year..
So long story short I got talked in to a trip to Idaho... OTC elk, deer, bear and wolf.
If I tag out early I'll be south bound to CO and hunting there also. I took 14 days off so I should be able to hit both states.. Technically it's On the way home anyways
Idaho is 8 miles in though. Working on getting my pack under 25lbs for 7 days.
So long story short I got talked in to a trip to Idaho... OTC elk, deer, bear and wolf.
If I tag out early I'll be south bound to CO and hunting there also. I took 14 days off so I should be able to hit both states.. Technically it's On the way home anyways
Idaho is 8 miles in though. Working on getting my pack under 25lbs for 7 days.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:38 AM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Hunted the Bitterroot range with my uncle as a much younger man. Took me a month to recover. He killed a 340 inch 6X6 and I had a chance, but passed on a 250 yard shot thinking he would get closer, and he just disappeared. Still regret not squeezing one off.
You need to take josh on a trip. Graduation present
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:42 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
I didn't draw any tags this year..
So long story short I got talked in to a trip to Idaho... OTC elk, deer, bear and wolf.
If I tag out early I'll be south bound to CO and hunting there also. I took 14 days off so I should be able to hit both states.. Technically it's On the way home anyways
Idaho is 8 miles in though. Working on getting my pack under 25lbs for 7 days.
So long story short I got talked in to a trip to Idaho... OTC elk, deer, bear and wolf.
If I tag out early I'll be south bound to CO and hunting there also. I took 14 days off so I should be able to hit both states.. Technically it's On the way home anyways
Idaho is 8 miles in though. Working on getting my pack under 25lbs for 7 days.
Didn't know Idaho was Otc...
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 01:42 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Hunted the Bitterroot range with my uncle as a much younger man. Took me a month to recover. He killed a 340 inch 6X6 and I had a chance, but passed on a 250 yard shot thinking he would get closer, and he just disappeared. Still regret not squeezing one off.
You need to take josh on a trip. Graduation present
He heads to Manitoba 2 days after graduation. Spring bear with a bow.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 02:31 AM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Hunted the Bitterroot range with my uncle as a much younger man. Took me a month to recover. He killed a 340 inch 6X6 and I had a chance, but passed on a 250 yard shot thinking he would get closer, and he just disappeared. Still regret not squeezing one off.
You need to take josh on a trip. Graduation present
He heads to Manitoba 2 days after graduation. Spring bear with a bow.
Bamm!!! Love it!!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 02:33 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
I didn't draw any tags this year..
So long story short I got talked in to a trip to Idaho... OTC elk, deer, bear and wolf.
If I tag out early I'll be south bound to CO and hunting there also. I took 14 days off so I should be able to hit both states.. Technically it's On the way home anyways
Idaho is 8 miles in though. Working on getting my pack under 25lbs for 7 days.
So long story short I got talked in to a trip to Idaho... OTC elk, deer, bear and wolf.
If I tag out early I'll be south bound to CO and hunting there also. I took 14 days off so I should be able to hit both states.. Technically it's On the way home anyways
Idaho is 8 miles in though. Working on getting my pack under 25lbs for 7 days.
Didn't know Idaho was Otc...
It's like CO Archery(OTC and Draw units).. Except they have OTC deer tags. Cool thing is you can use your deer tag for a bear or lion. Wolf tag is like $25.
I will kill a wolf
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 06/30/16 05:09 PM
Those of you that got refunds for CO elk tags, do you remember how much it was? I applied for a cow tag and I think it was a refund for 466, does that sound right?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 01:41 AM
Sounds about right. If you didn't hunt there last year there is an app fee.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 05:49 PM
Yo BOBO, RIfleman, got my Elk tag today in the mail Now I "BELIEVE"
Now I "BELIEVE"
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 06:10 PM
Wrong address..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 06:29 PM
If the name fits, run with it.
Lucky....
Lucky....
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 06:32 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Yo BOBO, RIfleman, got my Elk tag today in the mail Now I "BELIEVE"
Now I "BELIEVE"
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 06:56 PM
Been looking at doing a trip like this for the last 3 years, researching GMU's, stats, harvest numbers, etc. My son is finally old enough (17) to do something like this to where it is not a baby sitting trip.
What made you guys pick this area (GMU) vs other ones. I'm curioius? I've been focused on NW corner for OTC up in 30,31,32, etc.
What made you guys pick this area (GMU) vs other ones. I'm curioius? I've been focused on NW corner for OTC up in 30,31,32, etc.
Posted By: 974runner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 06:57 PM
I would love to go on an Elk hunt
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 07:05 PM
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
Been looking at doing a trip like this for the last 3 years, researching GMU's, stats, harvest numbers, etc. My son is finally old enough (17) to do something like this to where it is not a baby sitting trip.
What made you guys pick this area (GMU) vs other ones. I'm curioius? I've been focused on NW corner for OTC up in 30,31,32, etc.
What made you guys pick this area (GMU) vs other ones. I'm curioius? I've been focused on NW corner for OTC up in 30,31,32, etc.
It was based on general knowledge of the area. I'm familiar with that terrain and how to hunt it. It holds elk. I didn't get too scientific about it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 07:06 PM
Originally Posted By: 974runner
I would love to go on an Elk hunt
Don't put it off. There's nothing like it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 07:20 PM
Sneaky, taking your son on his 1st this year arent you?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 09:23 PM
I would sure like to. We'll see how it works out.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 09:56 PM
School would be the biggest headache probably, unless they will let him do some ahead of time, or make-up some, we had a young fella that did that a couple years. No doubt he would love the heck out of it though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 10:53 PM
School is the easy part. We control the scheduling. It's more dependent upon my work schedule.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/01/16 11:01 PM
I got it, so you're the problem.. Home school btw? Been there done that.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/02/16 01:20 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Sounds about right. If you didn't hunt there last year there is an app fee.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/02/16 02:18 AM
Originally Posted By: Western
I got it, so you're the problem.. Home school btw? Been there done that.
Of course, as usual. And yes, I'm doing my part to make my children socially awkward, as I hear is always the case.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/02/16 02:19 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Sounds about right. If you didn't hunt there last year there is an app fee.
There always is an application fee, though I don't recall how much CO charges.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/02/16 02:38 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Sounds about right. If you didn't hunt there last year there is an app fee.
Looking in my book, page 8 under "refunds", say's the app fee ($3.00) and the habitat stamp fee ($10), are not refundable. That is for unsuccessful apps
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/02/16 02:44 AM
Shows non resident Cow Elk tag is $469, this includes the .25 S&R fee, the app fee, .75 cents for management education fund fee. Then ad the mandatory habitat stamp fee $10 so total fee for app was $479. On refund, deduct the $3 app fee, then $10 HS
Refund should be for $466
Refund should be for $466
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/03/16 01:42 AM
All I know is they are short on what they sent me.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/03/16 07:14 AM
I too homeschool my son and plan on taking him this year (as long as my work schedule allows me to go) He will be 13 and loves to hunt.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/03/16 12:04 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: Western
I got it, so you're the problem.. Home school btw? Been there done that.
Of course, as usual. And yes, I'm doing my part to make my children socially awkward, as I hear is always the case.
We home schooled for about 3 years or so. I think it is a great thing if you can get a good routine. If done right, I think the folks in the most "awkward" position is the school they go to if they go back to public school.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/03/16 02:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
I too homeschool my son and plan on taking him this year (as long as my work schedule allows me to go) He will be 13 and loves to hunt.
Hopefully that works out for us both. Mine will be 14.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/03/16 02:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: Western
I got it, so you're the problem.. Home school btw? Been there done that.
Of course, as usual. And yes, I'm doing my part to make my children socially awkward, as I hear is always the case.
We home schooled for about 3 years or so. I think it is a great thing if you can get a good routine. If done right, I think the folks in the most "awkward" position is the school they go to if they go back to public school.
I believe it.
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/03/16 07:36 PM
Y'all put me down and my son. He is 17 and wife thinks we can swing him being out of school for a week.
We were already planning a trip to Colorado this summer for a combo vacation and scouting, but this may work out better as the hu ti g area/unit is already mailed down.
We were already planning a trip to Colorado this summer for a combo vacation and scouting, but this may work out better as the hu ti g area/unit is already mailed down.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/03/16 08:14 PM
Not real sure how scheduling is going to work out, I have asked for the time off already, but we are actually pretty busy. Hard to believe offshore oil work is busy, but I am in England right now and they don't have anyone to relieve me. Been here 5 weeks already and looking at probably 4 more weeks to go. Well, I need the money so just keep on truckin!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/09/16 03:09 AM
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There were on clearance for 225 with an extra 10% off this weekend
Picked up a pair
There were on clearance for 225 with an extra 10% off this weekend
Picked up a pair
Posted By: 974runner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/09/16 03:22 AM
Elk Hunt? Sounds awesome
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/09/16 05:18 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
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There were on clearance for 225 with an extra 10% off this weekend
Picked up a pair
There were on clearance for 225 with an extra 10% off this weekend
Picked up a pair
I have had that very boot for several years now. It is an excellent boot, plenty warm and have had zero issues with it. I tend to only wear it when the temps dip below 30 degrees only because I absolutely love my Zamberlans and will push them to their limits temperature wise just because they are that good. But that Meindl is nothing to laugh at either. I probably should be wearing them more than I do. Great find Cleric
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/09/16 05:25 PM
I feel in love with some kenetrek's at Dallas safari club but didn't pull the trigger. I have been debating buying them at 450. This feel close to those but not as good. But they were half the price. I did buy a good comfort insole for them
Between these and my old school pronghorns I should be covered on boots
Between these and my old school pronghorns I should be covered on boots
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/12/16 01:29 PM
I wont be able to make the group meeting, I had something come up that I have to take care of on that day.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/17/16 01:22 AM
Well, work is moving me to Tucson. That's actually not a deal breaker for this trip, since Tucson is closer to CO than Dallas, but we just got our October calendar and it's going to put me out of the 2nd rifle season. I'm still thinking about doing 3rd season if anyone's interested. I'm thinking about trying to find a campsite or even a motel on the main drag since it will be quite a bit colder than 2nd season.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/17/16 02:03 AM
At least you can put in for some top tier elk tags as a resident, now.
Posted By: Fitzwho
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/18/16 12:48 AM
Hijack- Shawheel, or anybody else,
Looks like I'll be hunting southern Utah during the general season muzzleloader spike only hunt November 3-8, short trip from Tucson and a $393 tag. Paunsaugunt is apparently a tough elk hunting unit, but should be a fun/interesting hunt with some incredible scenery. Wife put the kibosh on the December hunt since we are expecting our first child shortly there after. Since I have a cow elk permit, I can shoot the cow with a muzzleloader during the general season hunt if I buy the extra tag (which allows me to shoot a spike if I happen on one of those as well). Two tags for less than one Colorado elk tag.
Looks like I'll be hunting southern Utah during the general season muzzleloader spike only hunt November 3-8, short trip from Tucson and a $393 tag. Paunsaugunt is apparently a tough elk hunting unit, but should be a fun/interesting hunt with some incredible scenery. Wife put the kibosh on the December hunt since we are expecting our first child shortly there after. Since I have a cow elk permit, I can shoot the cow with a muzzleloader during the general season hunt if I buy the extra tag (which allows me to shoot a spike if I happen on one of those as well). Two tags for less than one Colorado elk tag.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/18/16 01:54 PM
Hmm, that might be enough reason to go buy a smoke pole.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/18/16 11:32 PM
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/19/16 12:03 AM
Suffering for a week isn't a big deal. Killing an elk is. The better shape you're in, the better your odds. Think of it that way.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/19/16 12:10 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
No matter what you do it will always be a sux fest on the mountain. Difference is how you prepared for it mentally.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/19/16 01:20 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Cleric
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
The more I suffer now the less I suffer on the mountain
No matter what you do it will always be a sux fest on the mountain. Difference is how you prepared for it mentally.
But if I can be in better shape that is one less thing for me to worry about. Agreed the mountain will always beat you down. But basic things like cardio will help
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/19/16 01:32 PM
For sure. I train pretty hard for my hunts but I think it's the metal aspect of pushing yourself through the training that helps the most on the mountain. With that said I think it's a mental toughness that you can only get with training.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/22/16 06:14 PM
My plans changed again, looks like Ill be able to make it after all.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/25/16 04:08 PM
On the issue of homeschool: I really enjoyed freedom of doing whatever the heck I wanted when I was homeschooled, namely hunting. That's the main reason I had to opt out this year. And next year I'm in college full time, so I dunno if I can take off 2 weeks from that (school in CO would solve that, methinks )
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Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/25/16 04:12 PM
Did they ever set the meeting location for the 6th? I just know what town its in and the time.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/25/16 11:23 PM
Hah! I don't think they did. Cleric will surely set that straight, shortly.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/25/16 11:41 PM
PM sent, but now I realize cmorsch posted he KNEW the time and town. Too much Russian elixir. Out.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/25/16 11:53 PM
It was a good idea, anyway.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 07/26/16 01:29 AM
We did up in smoke bbq last year and I liked it. So let's do that again
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/01/16 02:00 AM
Just got back from the Weminuche Wilderness backpacking. Tried this last year but waist deep snow above timber line and swollen rivers forced us to turn back. We made it all the way through this year. Dropped off at Elk Park and did the 40 mile loop, 10,000 ft of elevation gain ending at Needleton. It is one of the most remote and beautiful places in all of Colorado. I highly recommend it to any one that enjoys backpacking and getting in shape for the upcoming season. I have attached some pics for your viewing pleasure. Amazingly never saw a single elk. Keep me posted on the outcome from the group meeting as I will not be able to attend. Thanks
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/01/16 02:02 AM
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/01/16 02:05 AM
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/01/16 11:25 AM
Amazing photos. I'd love to see that in person.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/02/16 02:48 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK
ZK
Ringworm
cmorsch
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Creek runner
Shaw wheel
Kusai
Updated, I think the list is correct.
Just bringing this up so I can keep track of the list
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/02/16 03:50 PM
tx_basser and son to the list
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/04/16 08:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky
Cleric
PMK (doubtful for hunt)
ZK (doubtful for hunt)
Ringworm
cmorsch
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Creek runner(doubtful for hunt)
Shaw wheel
Kusai
Tx_basser +1
Fixed... Please don't beat me
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/04/16 08:35 PM
Who all will be there on Saturday?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/04/16 09:05 PM
I was going to try to make it this Saturday, but looks like I'm helping my dad (PMK) build a new stand. He's pretty limited on available weekends the next month or so, and unfortunately this was one of the only weekends we could get one built.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/08/16 07:46 PM
After looking more at the maps I think I may look into hunting up towards the top of of the mesa then the bottom, but that may change depending on the weather.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/08/16 08:15 PM
You can hunt where you like, but in between is where most of them are. You will see a few on top or bailing off the top heading for the nasty stuff in the middle.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/08/16 08:19 PM
Absolutely hunt where you want to. I know where I want to be the first couple of days, but beyond that it depends on what's going on
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/08/16 08:35 PM
It can also be hard to understand what all of that map looks like until you see it in person. It'll make more sense in person. It's just part of the learning curve. We spent our first year learning the terrain, basically.
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/08/16 08:57 PM
their are always trails leading off a mesa, elk don't just bail off anywhere unless realy surprised. about 25 yards under the edge is good and 10-2o feet off the trail. if you can beat the locals there.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/08/16 10:03 PM
cmorsch, horse(s) will be your friend up at the higher portions of the mesa. Air was thin and hills were pretty open for a good distance from the all weather forest service roads up to timber. There were a number of camps up there but almost all had a good string line of horses/mules (4 legged, not Kawasaki type). The mesa has a pretty gradual slope from north to south (south rim ~9,300 ft) with some higher peaks immediately to the north and west that I wouldn't want to hike up. It was a definite workout on day one last year when 3 of us covered slightly over 13 miles on relatively flat ground up on top of the southern portion of mesa (9,800 ft to 9,300 ft back to 9,800 ft over the course of that day). I think we all learned to unload our packs and mine was by far the lightest of our crew. A lot all depends on weather, temperature and whether the larger herd have pushed down (or through) the area. There were resident smaller herds around but the larger herds were still to the north in higher country during the 2nd season last year. This was the earliest I have been up there (used to hit 3rd season) but the weather can be drastically different the later you hunt.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/12/16 12:22 AM
So just to update everyone...
We had a good get together. For the next few weeks just gather personnel gear for the hunt. End of September/beginning of,October I will send out pms to see who is still in. From there we can start planning camp stuff.
We had a good get together. For the next few weeks just gather personnel gear for the hunt. End of September/beginning of,October I will send out pms to see who is still in. From there we can start planning camp stuff.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/12/16 01:40 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
So just to update everyone...
We had a good get together. For the next few weeks just gather personnel gear for the hunt. End of September/beginning of,October I will send out pms to see who is still in. From there we can start planning camp stuff.
We had a good get together. For the next few weeks just gather personnel gear for the hunt. End of September/beginning of,October I will send out pms to see who is still in. From there we can start planning camp stuff.
Thanks Cleric. Looking forward to the hunt.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/12/16 02:28 AM
I didn't know we were allowed to bring personnel. That'll make it a whole lot easier.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/12/16 05:08 PM
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/13/16 01:36 AM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
My daddy didn't have to show me how to pack
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/18/16 07:04 PM
So... I spoke with the Fish and Game biologist for that region today at lunch, and they recommended a different area to hunt (not Taylor Mesa) as there is not as much pressure so Im thinking I am going to hunt where they suggested.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/19/16 02:04 AM
There's lots of pressure up top. It pushes them into the bowls. That's where we hunt. Any easy terrain anywhere will be hammered by the competition.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/19/16 02:35 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
There's lots of pressure up top. It pushes them into the bowls. That's where we hunt. Any easy terrain anywhere will be hammered by the competition.
And how! Close to a trail, or road is even worse.
Getting close fellas
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/19/16 11:42 AM
I know, Ill be in a completely different unit, and camping at 10k in elevation.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/20/16 01:31 PM
Used the rain as a test of the new rain gear. I bought a bib from bass pro on clearance a few months ago and it worked very well in the rain.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/20/16 05:42 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Used the rain as a test of the new rain gear. I bought a bib from bass pro on clearance a few months ago and it worked very well in the rain.
For our sake I hope you don't get to use it, lol. Much rather have snow than rain. They keep saying a cold snowy winter is forecasted. I am sure it will be 70 and dry though knowing our luck. Lol. October can't get here soon enough.
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/21/16 06:44 PM
My BIL and I will likely be north of you guys in the Lizard Head Wilderness area. We plan on spike camping in about 2 miles and will be hunting between 10000 and 10500. This is our first time in this area, but have other family members that have hunted the area for many years and am going off their extensive knowledge of the area. As all things new, we have several back up plans and likely will let conditions dictate daily plans. Good luck to you guys and maybe we will drive down and visit one night if we think we have the time. Sure hope it isn't a rain out this year???
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/21/16 08:56 PM
No such thing as a rain out.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/22/16 02:43 AM
Morning glassing session..
Played with the filters on this one
By they way any one looking for a good deal on size 11 hunting boots see the classifieds
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/22/16 02:33 PM
Camo fire has a good deal on merino base layer today
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/22/16 04:12 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Used the rain as a test of the new rain gear. I bought a bib from bass pro on clearance a few months ago and it worked very well in the rain.
how noisy were they ... LOL!!!
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/22/16 05:38 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
No such thing as a rain out.
I think the people of Louisiana may disagree with that statement.
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/26/16 03:33 AM
Do any of you guys buy an OTC bear tag? Which leads to what should have been the first question, do you see many bears?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/26/16 03:43 AM
Year before last I bought a bear tag. In several trips up there I've seen one little bear. There's always a ton of sign, but I think it's a little late in the year to expect much.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/26/16 04:11 AM
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Used the rain as a test of the new rain gear. I bought a bib from bass pro on clearance a few months ago and it worked very well in the rain.
how noisy were they ... LOL!!!
Far quieter than the last ones
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/26/16 05:18 PM
Did they come with a cooling flap, or will you have to make another one?
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/27/16 04:36 PM
Sneaky, without having to read through all the previous post, where do you guys plan on going for the hunt?
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/27/16 04:36 PM
Which unit?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/27/16 11:53 PM
Unit 71. Taylor Mesa is the main area.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/28/16 06:02 PM
They will be hunting unit 71 on the taylor mesa just north east of delores. Ill be up in units 75,751 hunting the high country along missionary ridge and up into the Weminuche Wilderness.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/28/16 11:42 PM
How is it in units 71 and 75? I hunted unit 62 last year. It wasn't difficult terrain compared to what I have experienced before but still a B if I would have shot something. Saw plenty of elk and bears but getting to them at the right time was the challenge. Also, I saw many orange coats because it was also opening weekend for muzzle loaders. Every camping spot was full up on the mountain. Just wondering if you guys are elbow to elbow too and what kind of terrain are you dealing with.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 12:26 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
They will be hunting unit 71 on the taylor mesa just north east of delores. Ill be up in units 75,751 hunting the high country along missionary ridge and up into the Weminuche Wilderness.
If you hunt LL, better be prepared it's some nasty country. Especially the western bowl.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 02:30 PM
Chunky Monkey, you can make it as easy or as difficult as you want it where we hunted last year in 71. If you want easier walking, drive up top and walk down towards the bowls. If you don't mind challenging, park at the bottom and walk up. Parking at the bottom was a lot shorter walk, but much more difficult terrain. We generally split into groups and some would park down low and go up, and some of us went from the top down.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 05:21 PM
When can non-residents start purchasing their elk tags?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 05:47 PM
Right now
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 06:06 PM
we just bought over the counter at Walmart in Durango when we got there ...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 08:45 PM
I like to buy mine ahead of time so I don't have to deal with the lines right before the season opens as it can get really annoying.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 08:45 PM
Bobo whats LL?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 08:54 PM
You can go online and purchase them now as well and they'll mail it to you.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/29/16 09:28 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Bobo whats LL?
Pm sent
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 12:08 AM
We are getting close... Will start final prep soon
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 02:55 PM
Ive already started my prep. Decided Im going to pre-cook all my meals and store them in vacuum bags and just reheat in boiling water when up there so I dont have to cook much on the mountain. Should be interesting/fun hunting solo up in the high elevations.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 02:58 PM
Thought I was all packed, then realized I forgot tent and sleeping bag... Oops.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 03:02 PM
[quote=BOBO the Clown]Thought I was all packed, then realized I forgot tent and sleeping bag... Oops.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
And the 350lbs coming out......RIGHT....
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
And the 350lbs coming out......RIGHT....
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 03:11 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Thought I was all packed, then realized I forgot tent and sleeping bag... Oops.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
And the 350lbs coming out......RIGHT....
Hopefully more
I got a little OTC Tag crazy in Idaho this year. LolIf I tag out early and not beat I'm headed to CO afterwards.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 04:30 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Thought I was all packed, then realized I forgot tent and sleeping bag... Oops.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
And the 350lbs coming out......RIGHT....
Hopefully more
I got a little OTC Tag crazy in Idaho this year. LolIf I tag out early and not beat I'm headed to CO afterwards.
Well, you know where I will be I think, at least camped, I will have coffee on
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 04:51 PM
Is it OTC archery? I'm only 30 miles from there on way back in
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 05:58 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Is it OTC archery? I'm only 30 miles from there on way back in
No 1st draw, you will have yours processed by then I guess. If you travel the same as you did on your scouting run, you will be 5 miles from my camper..
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 06:08 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Thought I was all packed, then realized I forgot tent and sleeping bag... Oops.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
7 day trip at 36 pounds ain't to bad.
35? Wow man that's crazy!
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 06:10 PM
I'm leaving in 17 days. Can't hardly wait. Sitting here making/ going over list now.
My production is low and hasn't bottomed out yet!
I'd like to see your pack list bobo.
My production is low and hasn't bottomed out yet!
I'd like to see your pack list bobo.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 06:13 PM
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
I'm leaving in 17 days. Can't hardly wait. Sitting here making/ going over list now.
My production is low and hasn't bottomed out yet!
I'd like to see your pack list bobo.
My production is low and hasn't bottomed out yet!
I'd like to see your pack list bobo.
You doing the "stick and string" too? BOBO has a light pack due from experience, some folks just have to "try it on", before in sinks in
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 06:21 PM
Yes sir. Like my buddy always says. If i wanted to shoot one with a rifle id take my wife!
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
Posted By: BarneyWho
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 06:26 PM
packing in is for the guides. Throw some water in your camel back, knives, rope, tp, and a few granola bars in your pack! SHEESH!
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 06:28 PM
Originally Posted By: BarneyWho
packing in is for the guides. Throw some water in your camel back, knives, rope, tp, and a few granola bars in your pack! SHEESH!
To have BW money.
Posted By: BarneyWho
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 06:35 PM
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
Originally Posted By: BarneyWho
packing in is for the guides. Throw some water in your camel back, knives, rope, tp, and a few granola bars in your pack! SHEESH!
To have BW sense.
FIFY!
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 07:25 PM
Well i could win the lottery. But can't change my genetic code!
Posted By: BarneyWho
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 07:48 PM
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
Well i could win the lottery. But can't change my genetic code!
Hope you and Bobo kill BIG ones! I'm going to start putting in for the draw again next year. Kids are finally old enough mama won't yell too much when I'm gone.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 08:17 PM
Ill be staying the night in durango on thrusday the 20th, if anyone wants to get dinner. I should be there in the early afternoon as Im leaving DFW on wednesday night after work.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/30/16 11:49 PM
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
I'm leaving in 17 days. Can't hardly wait. Sitting here making/ going over list now.
My production is low and hasn't bottomed out yet!
I'd like to see your pack list bobo.
My production is low and hasn't bottomed out yet!
I'd like to see your pack list bobo.
That's with out water, I'll take 32oz in with me and then filter a bunch for the week once up top.
I've really just refined over last few years, and learned that a good idea is just weight.
My tent, pad and sleeping bag are right at 6lbs. Pack 4 lbs. That leaves 22 pounds for food and miscellaneous stuff. Only extra cloths in pack is 3 socks, 2 boxers, a goose down jacket, rain jacket, one 240 Kuiu merino shirt, and one pair of Kuiu 145 merino long johns.
So that leaves 17lbs for food, kill kit, stove, first aid, light, fire starter, bear line, tp and battery pack.
With that said I have extra cloths, food and synthetic sleeping bag in truck always as back up.. Especially incase my goose down sleeping bag ever wets out.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 12:20 AM
Most your good down products are hydrophobic now and it takes a lot of water to wet them out.
They aren't bomb proof compared to synthetic but way more reliable then what they use to be, and still half the weight of a synthetic bag.
They aren't bomb proof compared to synthetic but way more reliable then what they use to be, and still half the weight of a synthetic bag.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 01:57 AM
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
Yes sir. Like my buddy always says. If i wanted to shoot one with a rifle id take my wife!
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
Good deal and good luck.. I have chased them with sticks before as well, even slung a few, but now like just filling the freezer as much as I can
Nothing left to prove after few years.My first time, I bet my pack was 80ish pounds, learned that year
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 02:08 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I will go ahead and start a list
Sneaky (doubtful for hunt)
Cleric
PMK (doubtful for hunt)
ZK (doubtful for hunt)
Ringworm
cmorsch (going solo)
Deep sea (maybe +1)
Creek runner(doubtful for hunt)
Shaw wheel
Kusai
Tx_basser +1
So right now we are at 7 people
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 02:38 AM
Good luck cmorsch , be safe up there hunting alone. Best to have a buddy in case of problem.
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 03:10 AM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
Yes sir. Like my buddy always says. If i wanted to shoot one with a rifle id take my wife!
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
Good deal and good luck.. I have chased them with sticks before as well, even slung a few, but now like just filling the freezer as much as I can
Nothing left to prove after few years.My first time, I bet my pack was 80ish pounds, learned that year
Yeah I get asked often why I don't get one with a rifle first.
Main reasons are the seasons. Don't have to dress as heavy for bow. Camp lighter etc with the weather.
Then the fact that they are rutting and haven't been shot at yet.
Top that off with the fact that no dumb dallas folks are running around the mountain with deer rifles...
I've got some good buds that do not bow hunt but are itching to go so I am sure my time is coming.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 03:36 AM
First time I ever went up top was in BC and it took 16 hours to almost get there and find a decent camp spot with an angle less than 30 degrees. After doing that I wouldn't even pack a toothbrush if it meant extra weight. It adds up quick. If you ever have that experience where stuff gets real it changes your entire perspective on your pack.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 12:16 PM
Originally Posted By: bp3
Good luck cmorsch , be safe up there hunting alone. Best to have a buddy in case of problem.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 12:41 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Originally Posted By: bp3
Good luck cmorsch , be safe up there hunting alone. Best to have a buddy in case of problem.
Best peice of mind out right now. Excited to see what Garmin does with it. Maps got a big improvement since Garmin took over.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 12:44 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Originally Posted By: bp3
Good luck cmorsch , be safe up there hunting alone. Best to have a buddy in case of problem.
Best peice of mind out right now. Excited to see what Garmin does with it. Maps got a big improvement since Garmin took over.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 12:47 PM
It does. Down load the maps to your phone. $35
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 01:12 PM
Ill have to look into that, does it give me land ownership and topographics?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 03:19 PM
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
Yes sir. Like my buddy always says. If i wanted to shoot one with a rifle id take my wife!
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
We go pretty light, but I poor boy it so it keeps the weight up a bit. I've never weighed my pack. I will when I get it packed.
Good deal and good luck.. I have chased them with sticks before as well, even slung a few, but now like just filling the freezer as much as I can
Nothing left to prove after few years.My first time, I bet my pack was 80ish pounds, learned that year
Yeah I get asked often why I don't get one with a rifle first.
Main reasons are the seasons. Don't have to dress as heavy for bow. Camp lighter etc with the weather.
Then the fact that they are rutting and haven't been shot at yet.
Top that off with the fact that no dumb dallas folks are running around the mountain with deer rifles...
I've got some good buds that do not bow hunt but are itching to go so I am sure my time is coming.
All truth
One of the most enjoyable times to be in the Rockies, I have often swore I would start doing the muzzle loader thing, just to have some of both worlds.....I liked bow hunting when I lived there though, cost me around $40 for the tag and I had near 30 days
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 09:01 PM
I didn't plan on going elk hunting in CO this year but I am starting to get that itch again.
I started asking some guys in my group about going and someone said that winter weather is expected to come sooner this year.
Have you heard this too?
I started asking some guys in my group about going and someone said that winter weather is expected to come sooner this year.
Have you heard this too?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 08/31/16 09:27 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Ill have to look into that, does it give me land ownership and topographics?
Not as well as Onxmaps but it's shaded I believe
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/01/16 03:06 PM
Originally Posted By: Chunky Monkey
I didn't plan on going elk hunting in CO this year but I am starting to get that itch again.
I started asking some guys in my group about going and someone said that winter weather is expected to come sooner this year.
Have you heard this too?
I started asking some guys in my group about going and someone said that winter weather is expected to come sooner this year.
Have you heard this too?
Almanac weather predictions
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/01/16 09:49 PM
OK, I am sure one of you guys have put together a packing list already. Do you mind posting it again.
I would like to compare mine. Looks like I might be in unit 62 the third rifle season
I would like to compare mine. Looks like I might be in unit 62 the third rifle season
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 12:06 AM
Primary Rifle (300 RUM or 338 Lapua improved)
Back up rifle (260 or 300 RUM if I bring the Lapua)
sling incase i need it
rangefinder
2x Bino (1 spare set at camp)
Spotting scope Vortex Razor HD 16-48x65
Eberlestock J107M pack
Camelbak Ranger Pack
2 knives (1 buck alpha mini and a havalon)
hydration packs for both packs
rear bags
bipods (attached to each Rifle)
trigger sticks
kestrel 4000
Garmin Alpha GPS
40+ ammo for each rifle
2 headlamps (1 spare)
plenty of trailmix
glucose tablets
Delorme Inreach SE
iphone & andriod, andriod has ballistics computer
phone skope adapter for iphone
ear pro
sun glasses
nitrile gloves
bore snake for each caliber I have with me
compass
Printed Topo maps of area (laminated)
whistle
3 different fire starters
iodine tablets
knife sharpener
good insulated broken in boots
merino wool thermals
raingear
synthetic socks with sock liners
blaze orange hat and vest
spare batteries for everything
generator or solar panel
lantern w/ spare mantles
0degree sleeping bag with liner
2 coolers
food
white gold (toilet paper)
charging cables
lantern
gas cans
cook ware
camp clothing
chair
water filter for at camp
portable toilet
14x16 wall tent with wood stove
air mattress/cot
mattress toppers
pillow
several tarps
550 cord
"celebratory bottle"
clothing for multiple temp ranges
piece of foam to sit on
Caribou Gear game bags
Food Saver Game saver process meat in camp
Back up rifle (260 or 300 RUM if I bring the Lapua)
sling incase i need it
rangefinder
2x Bino (1 spare set at camp)
Spotting scope Vortex Razor HD 16-48x65
Eberlestock J107M pack
Camelbak Ranger Pack
2 knives (1 buck alpha mini and a havalon)
hydration packs for both packs
rear bags
bipods (attached to each Rifle)
trigger sticks
kestrel 4000
Garmin Alpha GPS
40+ ammo for each rifle
2 headlamps (1 spare)
plenty of trailmix
glucose tablets
Delorme Inreach SE
iphone & andriod, andriod has ballistics computer
phone skope adapter for iphone
ear pro
sun glasses
nitrile gloves
bore snake for each caliber I have with me
compass
Printed Topo maps of area (laminated)
whistle
3 different fire starters
iodine tablets
knife sharpener
good insulated broken in boots
merino wool thermals
raingear
synthetic socks with sock liners
blaze orange hat and vest
spare batteries for everything
generator or solar panel
lantern w/ spare mantles
0degree sleeping bag with liner
2 coolers
food
white gold (toilet paper)
charging cables
lantern
gas cans
cook ware
camp clothing
chair
water filter for at camp
portable toilet
14x16 wall tent with wood stove
air mattress/cot
mattress toppers
pillow
several tarps
550 cord
"celebratory bottle"
clothing for multiple temp ranges
piece of foam to sit on
Caribou Gear game bags
Food Saver Game saver process meat in camp
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 12:09 AM
I tend to pack heavy when camping next the truck.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 12:29 AM
Thank you
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 12:30 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
I tend to pack heavy when camping next the truck.
Just a bit...
Your pack list is dependent on the type of hunting your doing
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 12:32 AM
Midway has 600t garmin on sale
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/512872/garmin-oregon-600t-handheld-gps-unit
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/512872/garmin-oregon-600t-handheld-gps-unit
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 12:39 AM
Hey atleast Ill be comfortable up there, or as comfortable as one can be, as I plan on camping near the lime mesa trail head.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 02:03 AM
Third season could be some good snow, be prepared.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 10:18 PM
Originally Posted By: bp3
Third season could be some good snow, be prepared.
I have never gone this late in the season. Any recommendations? Such as traveling, tires, etc...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/02/16 11:09 PM
Originally Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Originally Posted By: bp3
Third season could be some good snow, be prepared.
I have never gone this late in the season. Any recommendations? Such as traveling, tires, etc...
All I have ever needed was 4x4 and my goodyear a/t's, did have chains for them when we lived up there, but never pulled them out. Where ya'll are going, once you get on the asphalt towards town, shouldn't be any problem though.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/03/16 01:22 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Originally Posted By: bp3
Third season could be some good snow, be prepared.
I have never gone this late in the season. Any recommendations? Such as traveling, tires, etc...
All I have ever needed was 4x4 and my goodyear a/t's, did have chains for them when we lived up there, but never pulled them out. Where ya'll are going, once you get on the asphalt towards town, shouldn't be any problem though.
First, we will be going to Montrose and will stay there that first night. Next day, we will gather food and water and then head up the divide road to unit 62. I am kind of worried about Monarch Pass during the snow because I have never tried it like that and some of the divide road areas where we get off the pavement.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/03/16 01:44 PM
Originally Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Originally Posted By: bp3
Third season could be some good snow, be prepared.
I have never gone this late in the season. Any recommendations? Such as traveling, tires, etc...
All I have ever needed was 4x4 and my goodyear a/t's, did have chains for them when we lived up there, but never pulled them out. Where ya'll are going, once you get on the asphalt towards town, shouldn't be any problem though.
First, we will be going to Montrose and will stay there that first night. Next day, we will gather food and water and then head up the divide road to unit 62. I am kind of worried about Monarch Pass during the snow because I have never tried it like that and some of the divide road areas where we get off the pavement.
Monarch can be a PITA, but they are usually pretty good at keeping the road clear(ish). You can get to divide road from a couple directions if the weather is bad, the backside from Nucla, or the end from Ridgeway, but like you said, usually easy from Montrose. We used to drive up there in November to get a Christmas tree (lived outside Montrose) Other option would be to come up 550 from Durango, faster anyway usually from DFW, you will still have some high country though.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/04/16 02:22 AM
Hunted south east of Montrose one year during late season. Got to Ridgeway and road to Durango was closed and they were plowing so I went west to Norwood and went south to Dove Creek,Cortez down to Gallop and hit interstate back to Texas.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/06/16 09:22 PM
6 weeks left. Should be a good time.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/06/16 10:17 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/09/16 07:24 PM
Right around the corner fellas! This cool front over the weekend will get my hairs standing on end, 60 degrees does it every time
This cool front over the weekend will get my hairs standing on end, 60 degrees does it every time
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/09/16 08:06 PM
I have a home in Pagosa Springs which all of you will be driving through..I think? I just wanted to wish each of you a successful trip and if you don't bring back an elk, bring back a lifetime of memories of the trip.
Good luck to all!
Good luck to all!
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/09/16 08:23 PM
I know I am looking forward to those nice toasty nights in the wall tent with the wood stove and a nice glass of whiskey. Should be plenty of room if taylor mesa doesnt pan out for you guys.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/09/16 08:33 PM
Originally Posted By: Mr. T.
I have a home in Pagosa Springs which all of you will be driving through..I think? I just wanted to wish each of you a successful trip and if you don't bring back an elk, bring back a lifetime of memories of the trip.
Good luck to all!
Good luck to all!
Mr T, my uncle had a house on the golf course there, we used to run down from Montrose to visit, I had a shop there that sold my metal work, so it was a good trip. PS sure has grown since 79-80! used to be more deer in town than folks!!
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/09/16 11:32 PM
Yep, now its about 50/50 on people and deer. I did hit a nice bull elk two summers ago at about 5am taking my daughter and 3 grand daughters to the Durango Airport. I saw something cross hwy 160 and so I slowed down to about 20mph. I though, "okay there's nothing here now." and then bang. I knocked it up onto the hood of my truck. It ran off into the darkness and I had to get to the airport. However, only had one headlight and it was sort of hanging down by the wires. Total cost for that trip. A little over $3,500. Main thing, none of my family was hurt.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/10/16 12:31 AM
Yes sir, came out well considering. Seems someone is killed after hitting one each year. I like PS, downtown near the fountain is about the same, seems most of civilization has cluttered Westward, beautiful area as well.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/13/16 08:04 PM
Just over 5 weeks away.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/13/16 11:57 PM
Do we have plans for meals, meeting up at camp, etc.?
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/14/16 12:40 AM
Lucky suckers. Be nice to see some pretty country and cooler temps.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/14/16 01:05 AM
Sneaky, Im not sure sure whats going on with your group as Im hunting solo over by purgatory. I know Ill be at my camp late thursday morning.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/14/16 01:57 AM
Purgatory isn't too far if you get bored and want to stop by.
I killed a turkey years ago across the road from the ski slopes, there.
I killed a turkey years ago across the road from the ski slopes, there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/14/16 01:57 AM
Originally Posted By: A.B.
Lucky suckers. Be nice to see some pretty country and cooler temps.
Lucky is right. I'm looking forward to it if work will allow it.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/14/16 02:03 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Do we have plans for meals, meeting up at camp, etc.?
No I need to get that started...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/14/16 02:18 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Purgatory isn't too far if you get bored and want to stop by.
I killed a turkey years ago across the road from the ski slopes, there.
I killed a turkey years ago across the road from the ski slopes, there.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 12:21 AM
Pm sent to those that have said they are going...let me know if you didn't get it and are coming
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 01:02 AM
I'm jealous of you guys. Wish I could hunt in Colorado this year.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 01:32 AM
Originally Posted By: Sq2 hunter
I'm jealous of you guys. Wish I could hunt in Colorado this year.
Me too
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 02:28 AM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Originally Posted By: Sq2 hunter
I'm jealous of you guys. Wish I could hunt in Colorado this year.
Me too
Than drive up
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 01:41 PM
Yeah yeah. With a 5 month old, the wife nixed that idea real quick...at least for this year. Hopefully next year will be a different story. Hope yall boys get on some elk this year.
Did you ever make it out to shoot distance at elevation?
Did you ever make it out to shoot distance at elevation?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 02:15 PM
(the wife might be ready for number 2 by next year )
)
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 02:45 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Yeah yeah. With a 5 month old, the wife nixed that idea real quick...at least for this year. Hopefully next year will be a different story. Hope yall boys get on some elk this year.
Did you ever make it out to shoot distance at elevation?
Did you ever make it out to shoot distance at elevation?
Originally Posted By: PMK
(the wife might be ready for number 2 by next year )
)5 month and grand pa around. You should be able to get away for a week.
Next time plan ahead...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 03:10 PM
Oh I did, we planned his birth for after deer season
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 03:16 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Oh I did, we planned his birth for after deer season
I tried to tell you 2 years ago to find a place up there your rich old man would buy, be handy now huh
BUT, now maybe you can use the grand child guilt trip on him, just dont tell him I suggested it
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 03:31 PM
rich 
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 03:49 PM
I was about to say, he would be going also. I've already tried talking the wife into just moving up there and living off the land. I still don't remember what happened after that
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 03:52 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
rich
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
PMK, go as the "babysitter" and it should be free, on dad
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 03:55 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
I was about to say, he would be going also. I've already tried talking the wife into just moving up there and living off the land. I still don't remember what happened after that Well think about that for a minute.....You need to bring home the elk meat so she is convinced "jew can do it" Or you could try, "Honey, we are moving to Colorado, we can live off the land, or move into a nudist colony on the front range, which is more comfortable for you dear?"
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 04:08 PM
There's that hippie commune in Dunton.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 05:27 PM
She'd definitely go for living off the land vs. a nudist colony lmao
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 06:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: PMK
rich
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
PMK, go as the "babysitter" and it should be free, on dad
pass!
... but a few years down the road, sure ... when he (grandson) can carry a pack filled with meat
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 06:58 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: PMK
rich
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
hey, I'd be going to CO too ...
PMK, go as the "babysitter" and it should be free, on dad
pass!
... but a few years down the road, sure ... when he (grandson) can carry a pack filled with meat Got that right!, good help is under rated.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 07:01 PM
...and hard to find
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 10:06 PM
12 hours from now I hope to be clear of wichita falls.
Hope I can sleep tonight. Because I won't be tomorrow night.
Ooops I meant 24 hour.
Hope I can sleep tonight. Because I won't be tomorrow night.
Ooops I meant 24 hour.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 11:26 PM
If you're lucky, the bugles will keep you up.
Posted By: hollidayHunter
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/15/16 11:52 PM
If any of you guys need a place to crash coming or going i live right outside of Wichita Falls and have plenty of room. Just shoot me a message on here. Good luck!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 12:55 AM
Thank you.
Posted By: ParkCountyElkDestroyer
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 01:21 AM
I can show you boys how it's done
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 02:30 AM
I sure wish someone would. Cleric can pencil you in for the hunt.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 02:43 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I sure wish someone would. Cleric can pencil you in for the hunt.
Did you turn me into your admin?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 02:58 AM
Nope. You're in charge of it all, trail boss.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 01:18 PM
I can see Cleric now...
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 02:36 PM
Should be a good year
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/16/16 04:09 PM
That it should, good food and drink up in the clouds at above 11,000 ft.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/18/16 04:34 PM
23 days fellas
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/18/16 06:44 PM
I cant wait myself, its going to be a nice trip this year especially now that I dont have that bloody honda ridgeline anymore.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/19/16 12:32 AM
Oh, yeah. You upgraded to a pickup, right?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/19/16 01:25 AM
Yes I bought a Ram 1500.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/19/16 02:06 AM
Well, I sincerely hope you can get that thing to Colorado and back.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/20/16 12:58 AM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Well, I sincerely hope you can get that thing to Colorado and back.
You with your Ford, you can pick him up then, if you cant, my gmc will pull both you fellas
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/20/16 01:34 AM
Lol Im more worried about getting my 14x16ft wall tent and wood stove setup then the truck not making it, followed by packing out a elk solo.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/20/16 01:49 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
Lol Im more worried about getting my 14x16ft wall tent and wood stove setup then the truck not making it, followed by packing out a elk solo.
Hey brudda, I have done it solo many many times, if you are somewhat physically fit(ish) you will be just fine. Tent is the biggest hurdle and the reason my wife thought I needed something else with my "issues" LOL, I wasn't going to argue an exchange for a camper
Same with the elk, it will take time and some smarts, but after you are done, it should eclipse any other hunt you've had. You will sure earn a drink and know you did something by morning
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/20/16 02:05 AM
I know the first night coming back to camp for venison lasagna will be fantastic with the wood stove for heat. Ill be eating good this trip is all I know.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/20/16 02:12 AM
Right!, I eat good the few day's prior, but seems its a can opener, or cereal, or maybe a sandwich or 4 by the time I get in past dark. My days can be real long, usually an all day out hunt from a couple hrs before light and an hr after dark. Needles to say, I relax a bit, watch some tv and get shut eye for early am get up.
and get shut eye for early am get up.
Posted By: paycheck
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 12:12 AM
Hey guys read most of your post and wish I could join y'all. Looks like Y'all will have a blast. But my wife put together a guided hunt around Lizard head wilderness during the second rifle season. Me an elk and she is after a mule deer. My question is, if I order my OTC tag now will it get to me in time? I know some say just buy it in when you get up there, but just weighing my options. THANKS AND GOOD LUCK
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 12:23 AM
Personally, this time of year, I'd get one up there. Walmart is 24 hrs and you should pass a few of them, there is one in Cortez and Durango. The gas station across from the liquor store in Dolores used too as well, but I wouldn't bank on that unless Sneaky's crew can tell you from last year.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 12:26 AM
I order buy mine on the way up online and just have them print it off at the walmart in Durango. That way I dont have to worry about the mail man loosing it. But with over 4 weeks till season starts I would really hope they can get it to you in that amount of time.
Posted By: paycheck
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 12:53 AM
THANKS, you have not had any problems late at night with no one knowing how to process it?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 01:07 AM
Originally Posted By: paycheck
THANKS, you have not had any problems late at night with no one knowing how to process it?
Not in over 30 years, they know the onslaught of hunters are coming. Never even had to use a manager in Durango, or Cortez and I usually hit them on arrival from midnight to 3am, never had an issue.
There is also a DOW office in Durango and it is full service 9a-5p
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 01:30 AM
Also the durango gun club is open to the public they day before the season to verify your zero, always a good thing to check.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 02:10 AM
There is a list of gun ranges on the wildlife depart website. I can't find any over 100/200 yards
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 12:42 PM
Over 200 the closest is the NRA center in New Mexico that I know of, I just need my 100 yd zero confirmed I have data at elevation from there out.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 02:40 PM
Albuquerque has a range. It's elevation is not as high but is up there. A lot higher than dfw
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 02:59 PM
We just stopped in Durango to pick up our licenses last year. MAKE SURE that you inform your credit card company that you are traveling up that way...
I didn't think to let my CC company know, and they locked me out of my card while trying to get my license.
I didn't think to let my CC company know, and they locked me out of my card while trying to get my license.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 05:19 PM
ZK, that is weird...I guess you just called the number on the back of the card and said WTH, right? Never had that happen, but it would sure get my hair standing on end...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 05:22 PM
I called my wife and had her call them since I was holding up the line, but yes, she just called the number on the back of the card and told them I was out of town so the "attempted charges" weren't fraudulent. I tried a few more cards, same thing. Luckily my dad was there and he had planned ahead. He went ahead and paid for it, and I just paid him cash once we got back to the truck.
He went ahead and paid for it, and I just paid him cash once we got back to the truck.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 05:30 PM
Ooooo, so that was you holding up the Durango Walmart line
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 05:33 PM
yes
Posted By: DLALLDER
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 06:30 PM
Any of you elk hunters heard any rumors about a new pending world record that was taken about a week ago in Montana?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 07:38 PM
Originally Posted By: DLALLDER
Any of you elk hunters heard any rumors about a new pending world record that was taken about a week ago in Montana?
This one, he's a toad and with a stick and string!
I want to know where BOBO is right now http://billingsgazette.com/lifestyles/re...5ab49ef14f.html
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/21/16 10:20 PM
I would but I can't get off work this year
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/22/16 02:27 PM
Coming down off the mountains now. I was amazed and humbled. To be right smack in the middle of elk.
Day one I called a bull in to 61 yards for my buddy. Giant 6x6 that anyone would shoot anywhere in Colorado. He just made one mistake and it was over.
Day 2 we woke up and we're pinned down by a herd on the ridge 3/4 to a mile away. When they went down into the meadow I took in chase. I can tell you it's rough to catch a feeding herd heading for timber. I got to the timber line and pretty much sat down in defeat when I did a couple cows busted loose not 10 yards in the timber.
We sat over that meadow again a few more times but I guess you booger up twice in the same meadow it's over.
Next day I got in behind another herd they got up on a bench and he bugled at me a few times. Wind was swirling. I backed off.
We scouted a new area and we could hear 4 different Bulls down below us. We went in and started stalking benches. My buddy was in lead he came 30 yards from a cow they both saw each other at the exact moment. She never winded us so she only trotted off. We had several Bulls answer cow calls but again raining and storms had the wind swirling badly. Every time you set up on one wind switched and you have to start over.
Right now my body is sore, I smell like an elk and I'm ready for something besides mountain house.
Day one I called a bull in to 61 yards for my buddy. Giant 6x6 that anyone would shoot anywhere in Colorado. He just made one mistake and it was over.
Day 2 we woke up and we're pinned down by a herd on the ridge 3/4 to a mile away. When they went down into the meadow I took in chase. I can tell you it's rough to catch a feeding herd heading for timber. I got to the timber line and pretty much sat down in defeat when I did a couple cows busted loose not 10 yards in the timber.
We sat over that meadow again a few more times but I guess you booger up twice in the same meadow it's over.
Next day I got in behind another herd they got up on a bench and he bugled at me a few times. Wind was swirling. I backed off.
We scouted a new area and we could hear 4 different Bulls down below us. We went in and started stalking benches. My buddy was in lead he came 30 yards from a cow they both saw each other at the exact moment. She never winded us so she only trotted off. We had several Bulls answer cow calls but again raining and storms had the wind swirling badly. Every time you set up on one wind switched and you have to start over.
Right now my body is sore, I smell like an elk and I'm ready for something besides mountain house.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/22/16 02:54 PM
Does the elevation affect stuff THAT much (gun/bullet/scope)? I've been fine from 0-3500ft altitude but CO is obviously more. And again, I'm talking up to 300yd here, past that--from my understanding--thinking can affect your shot. Lol
Posted By: MacDaddy21
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/22/16 03:06 PM
If any of you guys are coming through Colorado Springs on your way up, there is a pretty good range built on some of Fort Carson's property but its available to the public ($10/day) and you can shoot out to 600 yds.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/22/16 03:59 PM
Yes it can and will effect it, each gun and cartridge is different though, based on bullet BC, Muzzle Velocity, Powder and Primer used, altitude your at. The Air is thinner so you dont have as much drag therefor your bullet holds its velocities longer then at lower altitude, but the drop in temp may cause your bullet to be leaving the barrel at a slower velocity. As a example I lost 120 fps when I used imr 4350 in a 30-06 of mine when I went from texas to durango several years ago and was shooting when it was 30 degrees out rather then 80 when I did the load development, that could cause a miss at 300 yds in its self, not to mention the higher you go the colder it gets so its a compounding issue.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/22/16 04:02 PM
On a side note ill have my labradar with me if anyone is going to be in Durango on friday morning your welcome to check your loads across it. Before I head up the mountain.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/22/16 04:34 PM
Those thermals can be a mofo and the elk know how to play that game to a "T", at least you fellas got into them, going to freshen up and go back in?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/22/16 08:25 PM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Does the elevation affect stuff THAT much (gun/bullet/scope)? I've been fine from 0-3500ft altitude but CO is obviously more. And again, I'm talking up to 300yd here, past that--from my understanding--thinking can affect your shot. Lol
It's not the altitude per se. Although gravity is slightly different. It's the atmosphere. The air pressure/density is different so objected travel through it differently. Temperature can impact trejectory regardless of conditon. Some powders are more temp restistant then others.
Engine perform differently based on the amount of oxygen in the air. Similar impact with bullets. At what point it becomes a difference depends on the ammo and how different the conditions are
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/23/16 09:27 PM
4 weeks, I hope everyone has their packing lists put together
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/23/16 09:41 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
2-1/2 weeks, I hope everyone has their packing lists put together
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/23/16 10:07 PM
I really need to start getting ready...
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/26/16 07:50 PM
3 weeks and 2 days till I leave. I hope Im not the only one thats started to put everything together so far.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/26/16 08:29 PM
About 16 days for me, need to get my tent inspected and tagged, then loaded up. Got word it has been rather warm and dry overall in that area, bugling not heavy as normal, hoping for good cold to move in up high in the next week or so..
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/27/16 02:29 AM
3 weeks and 2 days until we head out. Still trying to get a load worked out for my new gun. Hope this next ladder test shows a promising node. This coming weekend is opening weekend of bow season and we still got a lot of work left to do at the deerlease. Works has killed my weekends on trying to get things completed. I at least count my blessings I have a job that allows me to play in the woods every now and then. Our plan is still to hunt Lizard Head Wilderness unless we get heavy snow. I am hoping for at least a couple of inches to help with the sleds. Everyone be safe on the long drive up.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/27/16 01:41 PM
I was able to work up an ELD-X load for my STW, last weekend. I'm ready to go if I can get off work.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/27/16 02:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I was able to work up an ELD-X load for my STW, last weekend. I'm ready to go if I can get off work.
You don't know by now?? Throw your cookie jar against the wall and tell them how it's gunna be Jarod!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/27/16 07:32 PM
If I had more tenure, I certainly would.
I gave them short notice, and we have picked up a lot of work while already being short handed. I'm a new hire at a company I've wanted to be at for awhile, well on my way to having exactly the position I've wanted for some time. I won't push the subject too hard, just yet. But next year, by God, they'll know just how the cow eats the cabbage, if I have to inform them myself.
They did say they would do what they could, and I can believe that. There's just no guarantees.
I gave them short notice, and we have picked up a lot of work while already being short handed. I'm a new hire at a company I've wanted to be at for awhile, well on my way to having exactly the position I've wanted for some time. I won't push the subject too hard, just yet. But next year, by God, they'll know just how the cow eats the cabbage, if I have to inform them myself.
They did say they would do what they could, and I can believe that. There's just no guarantees.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/27/16 09:14 PM
We could write you a note
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/27/16 10:12 PM
Is kid napping someone temproarlity still a felony?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/28/16 01:27 PM
Probably depends on whether the person wanted to be kidnapped or not.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 02:55 PM
You fellas still going? Sure a quite bunch with all this cool weather and such I bet y'all are pack'n huh
I bet y'all are pack'n huh
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 03:12 PM
Everyone being so quite is kind of shocking. I wonder how many the final list came down to now that its just 3 weeks away.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 03:26 PM
My wife knows me too well after all these years, she said this morning "you'd be gone this weekend if you hadn't scheduled jobs next week"
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 03:43 PM
Yes. it hasn't set in with my son yet.... but I have been preparing and getting stuff ready for months. Wife is starting to think the game room is a staging area of hunting operations or something. Got a few more items to get such as extra rope, tent stakes, batteries, etc.. not starting to build food list now.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 04:50 PM
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
Yes. it hasn't set in with my son yet.... but I have been preparing and getting stuff ready for months. Wife is starting to think the game room is a staging area of hunting operations or something. Got a few more items to get such as extra rope, tent stakes, batteries, etc.. not starting to build food list now.
Your son isn't "bouncing off the walls!?" Man, when I was young, it was "real" Christmas for me, still get excited, but takes a cool snap and I panic, then my wife say's " you do this every year
, you will be ready" (She helps load me up now that we got a camper
Posted By: rex47
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 05:05 PM
If i was going i would have half my stuff loaded, us old folks are slow and have to take our time to remember stuff.
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 06:16 PM
He is bouncing off the walls, but he and all of his friends have been bass fishing every day after school at all of the ponds around Sachse/Murphy. I gets texts all afternoon/evening of fish they are catching.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 06:19 PM
I haven't even started packing. Hell I didn't realize it was October this weekend. I am going to have a busy few weeks
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 06:20 PM
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
He is bouncing off the walls, but he and all of his friends have been bass fishing every day after school at all of the ponds around Sachse/Murphy. I gets texts all afternoon/evening of fish they are catching.
Oh yeah, good fishing can take off some of the adrenaline
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 06:25 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
I haven't even started packing. Hell I didn't realize it was October this weekend. I am going to have a busy few weeks
I have one buddy I took for the 1st time about 20 years ago, he now goes with his boss of whom I took on his 1st trip up. Anyway, he starts rounding up stuff like 4 months prior, then goes over it every weekend LOl. I start rounding things up a couple of weeks prior, then fester on what I have forgot all the way to camp
Knock on wood, only thing I can recall leaving I couldn't do without (really like to have for scouting), or buy up there, was my spotting scope last year.
I grocery shop up there at Walmart, late night, no crowd, decent prices on fruits and veggies and perishables are a day or 2 younger and I don't have to worry about hauling it up, keeping it cool ectra.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 06:26 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
Yes. it hasn't set in with my son yet.... but I have been preparing and getting stuff ready for months. Wife is starting to think the game room is a staging area of hunting operations or something. Got a few more items to get such as extra rope, tent stakes, batteries, etc.. not starting to build food list now.
Your son isn't "bouncing off the walls!?" Man, when I was young, it was "real" Christmas for me, still get excited, but takes a cool snap and I panic, then my wife say's " you do this every year
, you will be ready" (She helps load me up now that we got a camper maybe she is tired of putting up with you and ready for her own vacation ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 06:28 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
Yes. it hasn't set in with my son yet.... but I have been preparing and getting stuff ready for months. Wife is starting to think the game room is a staging area of hunting operations or something. Got a few more items to get such as extra rope, tent stakes, batteries, etc.. not starting to build food list now.
Your son isn't "bouncing off the walls!?" Man, when I was young, it was "real" Christmas for me, still get excited, but takes a cool snap and I panic, then my wife say's " you do this every year
, you will be ready" (She helps load me up now that we got a camper maybe she is tired of putting up with you and ready for her own vacation ...
You got that right brudda, hell , she has no problem telling me that LOL. Actually, she say's she knows how much I like it up there, so she likes seeing me go, she likes to go when she can. I missed one year, pouted like a baby for a month, she said "that will never happen again!"
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 06:52 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
You fellas still going? Sure a quite bunch with all this cool weather and such I bet y'all are pack'n huh
I bet y'all are pack'n huh I was told Elk can "hear you coming". No reason to broadcast my prep plans on here in case they can "read" also.
I don't want any of those Elk to have an added advantage. They are tough enough to get on as it is. But yes, I am all in, and will pack the night before.
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 08:16 PM
Just got thru ordering the tags online for son and I. Glad he is 17 and got the youth one.. whew
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 08:30 PM
Yes sir, only a car payment and not a mortgage
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 10:00 PM
My elk gear mostly stays packed. If I end up going, it's just a matter of throwing it in the pickup.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/29/16 10:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Sneaky
My elk gear mostly stays packed. If I end up going, it's just a matter of throwing it in the pickup.
Hey bud, working on a note to get you out. 1st draft went in the trash, my wife said it came across too threatening, wimmins smh. I don't think the bleeding while putting their feet in hot oil was bad, dragging them down the pavement with their teeth grinding on the asphalt may have been a bit much though, chalk board effect but with the nibblers..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/30/16 03:49 PM
Seems reasonable to me.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 09/30/16 06:59 PM
Yeah, I thought so too, but would hate to turn your boss into a terrorist at you...Just quit and find another job when you get back
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/03/16 07:07 PM
I am going to start packing this weekend
I am going to start packing this weekend
I am going to start packing this weekend
If I say the lie enough maybe it will become true
I am going to start packing this weekend
I am going to start packing this weekend
If I say the lie enough maybe it will become true
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/03/16 09:27 PM
Lol, I know I have just about got all my packing done, just waiting for a few more items to arrive on the big brown truck and Ill be good. And thankfully my delorme inreach is finally working with unlimited tracking on 10 min intervals and texting. All I have left to figure out is how to recharge certain electronic devices, Im torn between leaving a solarcell charging portable charging blocks at camp or just bring a generator.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/03/16 10:26 PM
So, if y'all remember I was a hopeful for this year, but had to drop out because of school.
I do have a couple of questions:
What packs are y'all taking? (make/model would be great)
What capacity packs do y'all have?
How much hiking is expected per full day of hunting?
Mule deer opportunities or not?
Thanks, I hope I can come in the future!
I do have a couple of questions:
What packs are y'all taking? (make/model would be great)
What capacity packs do y'all have?
How much hiking is expected per full day of hunting?
Mule deer opportunities or not?
Thanks, I hope I can come in the future!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/03/16 10:38 PM
Y'all are way over-thinking this.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/03/16 11:19 PM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Y'all are way over-thinking this.
It's not too late you know..........
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/03/16 11:31 PM
Hiking depends on your desire to "get away" from the well beaten path. I am planning on 8-10 mile round trip day's with the locations I have staked out. That will vary obviously with the weather, hunting pressure etc.
Pack: I have had a Sitka Flash 20 (2,000 cu inch) that I have used the past 4 yrs. It''s perfect for the daily hikes in and out but if I down an elk it will be lucky to get the back straps and head out. Definitely would be brutal trying to haul an elk quarter out with it. I have ordered a Mystery Ranch Metcalf (4325 cu in) to be my go to elk bag but it's backordered till January, so I'll make do with a large Osprey backpack I have to haul out meat. The Mystery Ranch is admittedly bigger than necessary but it compresses down so small that as long as you limit what you pack in it, you would never need all the room. Keep in mind you don't need a high dollar backpack though but they do usually have some nice features and ride a little better than most. You can usually find some great deals on new last year models if you look online.
Yes there are mule deer, some monster at that. But you have to draw a tag for Mulies. Usually need a preference point or two to get a tag.
Pack: I have had a Sitka Flash 20 (2,000 cu inch) that I have used the past 4 yrs. It''s perfect for the daily hikes in and out but if I down an elk it will be lucky to get the back straps and head out. Definitely would be brutal trying to haul an elk quarter out with it. I have ordered a Mystery Ranch Metcalf (4325 cu in) to be my go to elk bag but it's backordered till January, so I'll make do with a large Osprey backpack I have to haul out meat. The Mystery Ranch is admittedly bigger than necessary but it compresses down so small that as long as you limit what you pack in it, you would never need all the room. Keep in mind you don't need a high dollar backpack though but they do usually have some nice features and ride a little better than most. You can usually find some great deals on new last year models if you look online.
Yes there are mule deer, some monster at that. But you have to draw a tag for Mulies. Usually need a preference point or two to get a tag.
Posted By: MacDaddy21
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/03/16 11:49 PM
Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Hiking depends on your desire to "get away" from the well beaten path. I am planning on 8-10 mile round trip day's with the locations I have staked out. That will vary obviously with the weather, hunting pressure etc.
Pack: I have had a Sitka Flash 20 (2,000 cu inch) that I have used the past 4 yrs. It''s perfect for the daily hikes in and out but if I down an elk it will be lucky to get the back straps and head out. Definitely would be brutal trying to haul an elk quarter out with it. I have ordered a Mystery Ranch Metcalf (4325 cu in) to be my go to elk bag but it's backordered till January, so I'll make do with a large Osprey backpack I have to haul out meat. The Mystery Ranch is admittedly bigger than necessary but it compresses down so small that as long as you limit what you pack in it, you would never need all the room. Keep in mind you don't need a high dollar backpack though but they do usually have some nice features and ride a little better than most. You can usually find some great deals on new last year models if you look online.
Yes there are mule deer, some monster at that. But you have to draw a tag for Mulies. Usually need a preference point or two to get a tag.
Pack: I have had a Sitka Flash 20 (2,000 cu inch) that I have used the past 4 yrs. It''s perfect for the daily hikes in and out but if I down an elk it will be lucky to get the back straps and head out. Definitely would be brutal trying to haul an elk quarter out with it. I have ordered a Mystery Ranch Metcalf (4325 cu in) to be my go to elk bag but it's backordered till January, so I'll make do with a large Osprey backpack I have to haul out meat. The Mystery Ranch is admittedly bigger than necessary but it compresses down so small that as long as you limit what you pack in it, you would never need all the room. Keep in mind you don't need a high dollar backpack though but they do usually have some nice features and ride a little better than most. You can usually find some great deals on new last year models if you look online.
Yes there are mule deer, some monster at that. But you have to draw a tag for Mulies. Usually need a preference point or two to get a tag.
I'm loving the looks of these Mystery Ranch packs. The Metcalf and the Marshall look awesome. I'd absolutely love to hear what you think about the Metcalf when you get it and put some miles on it. I'm currently looking at Kifaru, Mystery Ranch, and Exo. I really just want to buy them all!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 12:32 AM
I was in the same boat as you. It really was down to the Kifaru and the Mystery ranch for me. I didn't like the pack options on the Kifaru. It was either too large, too small, or not the right design.
I played with the Mystery Ranch packs at shot show. Was very impressed. Love the set up, load shelf etc. The Marshall was just too much pack for my needs. The pintler too small. Metcalf was perfect. I wish it had some more pockets, I am a pocket organizer nerd but it's still good enoughz. I'll post more reviews when I get it and log some time with it.
I played with the Mystery Ranch packs at shot show. Was very impressed. Love the set up, load shelf etc. The Marshall was just too much pack for my needs. The pintler too small. Metcalf was perfect. I wish it had some more pockets, I am a pocket organizer nerd but it's still good enoughz. I'll post more reviews when I get it and log some time with it.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 12:53 AM
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
So, if y'all remember I was a hopeful for this year, but had to drop out because of school.
I do have a couple of questions:
What packs are y'all taking? (make/model would be great)
What capacity packs do y'all have?
How much hiking is expected per full day of hunting?
Mule deer opportunities or not?
Thanks, I hope I can come in the future!
I do have a couple of questions:
What packs are y'all taking? (make/model would be great)
What capacity packs do y'all have?
How much hiking is expected per full day of hunting?
Mule deer opportunities or not?
Thanks, I hope I can come in the future!
I use a Eberlestock J107M which is 5000 cu in approx, but I can use it as a meat hauler also, and also take a camelbak ranger for a light weight daypack if I decide to go ptarmigan or grouse hunting while I am there and for scouting pre-season. Plan on alot of hiking, you go to where to elk are, could be 1-2 miles each way or it could be 4-5. It all depends on where your hunting. Mule Deer are by lottery draw only.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 01:04 AM
I have a spare 60L internal frame hiking pack that I dont care if it gets all bloody if anyone needs to use it possibly.
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 01:14 AM
Med Alice pack with frame.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 05:39 PM
Tick toc, Tick toc, Tick toc.......
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 06:03 PM
How many of you guys are going on this trip? Sounds like a whole lot of fun. Good luck to all.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 08:02 PM
Ill be up there hunting but northeast of Durango instead of on the taylor mesa with them. On a side note, the forecast leading up to the season looks halfway decent, as its showing in the 30's at night in Delores for you guys.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 10:29 PM
We need teens at night!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 10:49 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
We need teens at night!
I took this completely wrong.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 11:03 PM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Originally Posted By: Western
We need teens at night!
I took this completely wrong.
I can see how after re-reading it, see how you "youngsters" are
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 11:40 PM
Well, this took an unexpected turn from the last I time I read the thread.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/04/16 11:48 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Originally Posted By: Western
We need teens at night!
I took this completely wrong.
I can see how after re-reading it, see how you "youngsters" are
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 11:38 AM
Originally Posted By: rifleman
Well, this took an unexpected turn from the last I time I read the thread.
Yeah, I don't know what happened, we where here get ready for vacation bible school and.........
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 11:42 AM
Rifleman, it actually went something like this:
"(Reporter):
This is your action news reporter once again, and we're here at the gas
station. Pardon me, sir, did you see what happened?
(Witness):
Yeah, I did. I's just in here gettin my car checked, he just appeared
out of the traffic. Come streakin' around the grease rack there, didn't
have nothin' on but a smile. I looked in there, and Ethel was gettin'
her a cold drink. I hollered, "Don't look, Ethel!" But it was too
late. She'd already been mooned. Flashed her right there in front of
the shock absorbers."
"(Reporter):
This is your action news reporter once again, and we're here at the gas
station. Pardon me, sir, did you see what happened?
(Witness):
Yeah, I did. I's just in here gettin my car checked, he just appeared
out of the traffic. Come streakin' around the grease rack there, didn't
have nothin' on but a smile. I looked in there, and Ethel was gettin'
her a cold drink. I hollered, "Don't look, Ethel!" But it was too
late. She'd already been mooned. Flashed her right there in front of
the shock absorbers."
Posted By: GedOliver
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 01:28 PM
Used to be 250 tags for the ducks now there's 125. They also slashed the tags around the farmland around the park as well. Very few people hunt the ducks any more. Success rate is just so poor, most dont make the trip out. I would guess success would be less than 5%. Was around 8% when there used to be a few elk around. If your group got an elk every 2-3 years you were doing well. by group I mean 2-3 guys. All the guys that used to hunt moose in the park (harvest), now hunt elk with the rifle because moose is closed. Province is keeping quite about the ban as well. Rumour is it ends soon for harvesters. I've personally watched the serious decline there over the years and most likely wont hunt there until they actually try some form of conservation. Sickening how hunters support all the research and conservation and are given zero information on population and conservation tactics. Just spend one season in the states and you will be blown away by how well they manage their resource and keep people informed on how the population is doing. Update the regs in each and every zone every two years.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 05:30 PM
2 weeks left
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 06:38 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
We need teens at night!
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 07:10 PM
Working on gear now.. cleaning up laterns, replacing mantels, rope, tarps, clothing, gloves, hats.. 17 year old is no help except telling me to buy a lots of Dr. Pepper, Beef Jerky, and Honey buns.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 07:53 PM
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
Working on gear now.. cleaning up laterns, replacing mantels, rope, tarps, clothing, gloves, hats.. 17 year old is no help except telling me to buy a lots of Dr. Pepper, Beef Jerky, and Honey buns.
You get one down, and he will be shaving by the time the trip is over
Will be beer and pizza from then on out
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 07:55 PM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
2 weeks left
6 days for me brudda
and the drive begins
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 07:56 PM
Told my wife I probably should leave this Friday, because of the hurricane coming of course
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 08:53 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Told my wife I probably should leave this Friday, because of the hurricane coming of course
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/05/16 09:08 PM
Giving Amazon Prime and eBay mobile apps a work out. Order stuff real time and not have to go anywhere.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 02:23 AM
Started packing today...getting things out At least
As of right now I am really thinking about streaming down a lot
Small med kit
Flashlight
Kill bag-knives and meat bags
Binos on harness
Food
Drink
Basic utility tools
That's about it...I ma usually no more than 3-4 hours to truck, camp, or a road
As of right now I am really thinking about streaming down a lot
Small med kit
Flashlight
Kill bag-knives and meat bags
Binos on harness
Food
Drink
Basic utility tools
That's about it...I ma usually no more than 3-4 hours to truck, camp, or a road
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 02:38 AM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Started packing today...getting things out At least
As of right now I am really thinking about streaming down a lot
Small med kit
Flashlight
Kill bag-knives and meat bags
Binos on harness
Food
Drink
Basic utility tools
That's about it...I ma usually no more than 3-4 hours to truck, camp, or a road
As of right now I am really thinking about streaming down a lot
Small med kit
Flashlight
Kill bag-knives and meat bags
Binos on harness
Food
Drink
Basic utility tools
That's about it...I ma usually no more than 3-4 hours to truck, camp, or a road
I like to plan for the worse but try to not go overboard even if I am close to a trail or road. I'll add the following:
GPS
Personal Locator Beacon
Water Filter Straw
Emergency blanket
Fire starting gear
Paracord
Rain gear
Its getting close. Can hardly wait. 98 degrees here today.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 08:58 AM
I think you fellas will appriciate the adjustment, nothing worse than lugging ounces that turn into pounds. Over the years, I have found some odd stuff left in the woods, from small folding chairs, a hatchet, even found a small 1 man tent still in the bag once.
One thing I would also carry that is lightweight and makes a great fire starter, is surgical gloves, I will carry maybe 10 pairs and they fit anywhere.
One thing I would also carry that is lightweight and makes a great fire starter, is surgical gloves, I will carry maybe 10 pairs and they fit anywhere.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 09:00 AM
also, you guy's may consider getting some 0 degree window washing fluid, I picked up a couple gallons at O'Rielly's on sale for like $3.89. If the weather is snowy and muddy, you go through a lot of window fluid when driving. More importantly, the lines can freeze and crack, which can be a pita later. Been there, done that.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 01:25 PM
Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Started packing today...getting things out At least
As of right now I am really thinking about streaming down a lot
Small med kit
Flashlight
Kill bag-knives and meat bags
Binos on harness
Food
Drink
Basic utility tools
That's about it...I ma usually no more than 3-4 hours to truck, camp, or a road
As of right now I am really thinking about streaming down a lot
Small med kit
Flashlight
Kill bag-knives and meat bags
Binos on harness
Food
Drink
Basic utility tools
That's about it...I ma usually no more than 3-4 hours to truck, camp, or a road
I like to plan for the worse but try to not go overboard even if I am close to a trail or road. I'll add the following:
GPS
Personal Locator Beacon
Water Filter Straw
Emergency blanket
Fire starting gear
Paracord
Rain gear
Its getting close. Can hardly wait. 98 degrees here today.
Gps is on phone
Filter straw is always good to have
Emergency blanket- because it so light yeah but unless it's going to get real cold most likely wouldn't need
Fire starting gear-included
Paracord- -always
Rain gear- yep
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 01:56 PM
Do any of you guys use hiking sticks or trekking poles?
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 02:33 PM
Yes I do. Makes my knees and ankles not as sore
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 02:44 PM
I'm not going on this hunt, but I spend the summer near there in Pagosa Springs and I hike a lot in the mountains. I would rather give up my good boots than my hiking stick. It makes a world of difference and weighs only a few ounces.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 03:08 PM
I had a "walking stick" I guess you could call it for a couple years, it also had a shooting loop on top, which was the attraction for me. I don't scabbard my rifle, usually on the shoulder, or at the ready, so it was somewhat a pita for me and I gave it to a camp mate one year.
I don't usually walk as much as you fellas like too, so I can easily do without, but get a cheap one and try it on, may be the hells bells for you. Honestly though, I think I am the only hunter I have seen with one, fact the fellas made fun of me at camp like I was wearing a fanny pack or something. If you're going up there to hike, I say use whatever you think will make it more comfortable, you will quickly discard things that don't contribute..
I don't usually walk as much as you fellas like too, so I can easily do without, but get a cheap one and try it on, may be the hells bells for you. Honestly though, I think I am the only hunter I have seen with one, fact the fellas made fun of me at camp like I was wearing a fanny pack or something.
If you're going up there to hike, I say use whatever you think will make it more comfortable, you will quickly discard things that don't contribute..
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 03:57 PM
what's wrong with a fanny pack?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 04:26 PM
Originally Posted By: PMK
what's wrong with a fanny pack?
IDK, I have 2, one unzips from my pack and is quite handy for short treks, the other I have had for near 20 years and works great dove hunting. Must be a younger generation hangup
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 06:13 PM
I, like Western, hunt with my rifle at the ready on my shoulder. It is way too cumbersome to hike with trekking poles and a rifle on the shoulder for me. If you scabbard your rifle then it would be definitely a non-issue. I won't "backpack" without trekking poles, however. Takes a ton of stress off your knees, ankles and low back, especially when going over uneven terrain. It's just too much of a pain while hunting for me. Now if you have to go back to the truck to dump a quarter or two and/or switch out for a meat pack, the trekking poles will help a ton getting that meat out. Definitely something to think about, but not a necessity IMO.
Ah....the good ole "Granny Pack" Not a thing in the world wrong with them sir. That's the only thing a friend of mine carries while bow hunting for elk. He would prefer going in extremely light and "stealthy" and return to his truck for a meat pack than haul around a backpack.
Ah....the good ole "Granny Pack"
Not a thing in the world wrong with them sir. That's the only thing a friend of mine carries while bow hunting for elk. He would prefer going in extremely light and "stealthy" and return to his truck for a meat pack than haul around a backpack.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/06/16 08:34 PM
Yes sir, did the same when I bow hunted, that did require more leg work for sure.
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/08/16 11:48 AM
Highly recommended the Safari Sling. Gun is always ready for shooting position and your hands are free to use walkng stick binos etc...
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/08/16 01:46 PM
I hunt in some knarly country up there. When I googled the unit the only thing I found out for certain it was rough. Consistently folks said good Bulls but bring repeling gear. Moral of the story I would not dream of being up there without trekking poles. Also I bent one of the cheap walmart poles each of the two trips I've taken. They did not fail me but.... So if your an average sized 220 like myself id suggest spending a bit more.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/08/16 03:02 PM
Originally Posted By: ducknbass
I hunt in some knarly country up there. When I googled the unit the only thing I found out for certain it was rough. Consistently folks said good Bulls but bring repeling gear. Moral of the story I would not dream of being up there without trekking poles. Also I bent one of the cheap walmart poles each of the two trips I've taken. They did not fail me but.... So if your an average sized 220 like myself id suggest spending a bit more.
I know a few places like that, you're best to take in a frying pan if you get one down and cook it right there
My stupid self will still go into those ares if there is reason, then I deal with what falls, I should probably forgo the trek sticks and talk a walker the way my back gets sometimes
Posted By: ducknbass
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/08/16 03:09 PM
That's funny because the 1st trip I went on I told my buddy that i thought poles were a good idea. He laughed and showed up with his late dads cane that forked at the bottom and made 3 little legs.
Let's just say he owns poles now.
Let's just say he owns poles now.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/08/16 03:14 PM
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Highly recommended the Safari Sling. Gun is always ready for shooting position and your hands are free to use waking stick binos etc...
Thanks Marc, going to have to look in to that.
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/09/16 02:20 AM
Really looking forward to hearing about yalls trip. I went 3rd rifle last year just east of yall in Unit 74. I am going to have all my stuff ready to go again for 3rd rifle this year. If none of my 3 youth football teams make the playoffs, I'll be on another solo adventure.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/09/16 10:34 PM
10 Days. How is everyones packing going?
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 01:22 AM
Still working on a load for my new build. If I don't get a warm fuzzy by Saturday it will get put on the shelf and my STW brought up from the bull pen. Got most items staged, just need some last minute items and start packing it up.
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 02:23 AM
This week is cooking utensils and food preps. Everything else is coming together.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 06:56 PM
For you guys that let kids/teens borrow your stuff, I just learned the hard way that I have to check the condition of said borrowed items prior to my use. Was excited about sleeping on my comfy padded cot in my tent for the hunt. Wanted to make sure it would fit in my tent though prior to getting to camp. So, I put the tent up in my bedroom, went to grab the cot that my son last borrowed from scout camp out of the box. As I am pulling it out I notice something doesn't appear right. It seems awful flimsy. I inspect it a bit closer and it's missing the hinge bolts. Completely useless now which means, I'll be sleeping on the ground. I am counting the seconds till that boy gets home from the movies.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 07:11 PM
Home depot--new bolts
BTW, Your son, being a good scout, probably used those bolts to fix an old ladies car, I'd say you should take him out for ice cream, then stop by and get some bolts
BTW, Your son, being a good scout, probably used those bolts to fix an old ladies car, I'd say you should take him out for ice cream, then stop by and get some bolts
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 07:16 PM
Hah, he won't even remember having used the cot. "I didn't take that to scout camp Dad, you were the last one that used it."
It may be salvageable. The problem is the diameter of the whole where the large hard plastic bolt goes. It measures 2 inches in diameter. So I am either going to have to find a huge bolt or a huge washer that won't fall through the whole.
It may be salvageable. The problem is the diameter of the whole where the large hard plastic bolt goes. It measures 2 inches in diameter. So I am either going to have to find a huge bolt or a huge washer that won't fall through the whole.
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 07:19 PM
Unfortunately had that happen too many times with my son. He thinks his stuff is his and my stuff is his. I've spent the last 10 years buying stuff for him to have of his own, so he would not use mine. It has been rather expensive, but I bought allot on sale, off craigslist, internet, bargain cave, etc. The problem is he will lose or not take care of his stuff, then go take mine and treat it like crap also. Infuriates me.......
What kind of cot is it,, as I have a Slumberjack cot frame that has ripped canvas that have some spare parts you can use.
What kind of cot is it,, as I have a Slumberjack cot frame that has ripped canvas that have some spare parts you can use.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 07:21 PM
Worse case, make a wood washer, then use the bolt and metal washer.
I have slept many times on the ground in a tent, just get a 4" or so foam piece, then layer the sleeping bag/blankets, works good as long as you have a chair to sit on when getting shoes on/off.
I have slept many times on the ground in a tent, just get a 4" or so foam piece, then layer the sleeping bag/blankets, works good as long as you have a chair to sit on when getting shoes on/off.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 07:46 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Worse case, make a wood washer, then use the bolt and metal washer.
I have slept many times on the ground in a tent, just get a 4" or so foam piece, then layer the sleeping bag/blankets, works good as long as you have a chair to sit on when getting shoes on/off.
I have slept many times on the ground in a tent, just get a 4" or so foam piece, then layer the sleeping bag/blankets, works good as long as you have a chair to sit on when getting shoes on/off.
Done, found a 3 inch foam pad I had stored in a closet and then am sneaking out the queen size "down comforter'(if the Mrs. doesn't notice) that I'll double over and put on top of the foam pad. Should sleep like a baby.
I'll jack with the cot later. Too much other crap to do.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 07:59 PM
Hell if sneaky falls out I think their may be a fight for the other bed in my pop up
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 08:16 PM
Looks like we are getting the change in the weather we were hoping for.. Forecast now shows highs in mid 40s and lows in low 20's.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 08:39 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Hell if sneaky falls out I think their may be a fight for the other bed in my pop up
Hmm, well I am planning on Sneaky to be there at this point, but if he's not......
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 11:10 PM
Heading out in the morning sometime. Have news that it has been warm for the season and acorns in the oak shimery are plentifull.
OH, got my Polaris 800 half way to the TH and it died, cranks, but wont fire 59 hrs on her Now I need to decide if I want to load it and take it up there, (where I bought it) or leave it. Good news!! I did get me a new cheapy trout fishing rig
OH, got my Polaris 800 half way to the TH and it died, cranks, but wont fire 59 hrs on her
Now I need to decide if I want to load it and take it up there, (where I bought it) or leave it. Good news!! I did get me a new cheapy trout fishing rig
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/10/16 11:19 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Heading out in the morning sometime. Have news that it has been warm for the season and acorns in the oak shimery are plentifull.
OH, got my Polaris 800 half way to the TH and it died, cranks, but wont fire 59 hrs on her Now I need to decide if I want to load it and take it up there, (where I bought it) or leave it. Good news!! I did get me a new cheapy trout fishing rig
OH, got my Polaris 800 half way to the TH and it died, cranks, but wont fire 59 hrs on her
Now I need to decide if I want to load it and take it up there, (where I bought it) or leave it. Good news!! I did get me a new cheapy trout fishing rig Drive safe. Knock something down. 'Sorry I'm not there to help.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 12:39 AM
Thanks CR, sure wish you could have tagged along, now I have to buy my own cigars Plus, if I see a Yeti, you'd be a good witness.
Plus, if I see a Yeti, you'd be a good witness.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 12:39 AM
Originally Posted By: Western
Heading out in the morning sometime. Have news that it has been warm for the season and acorns in the oak shimery are plentifull.
OH, got my Polaris 800 half way to the TH and it died, cranks, but wont fire 59 hrs on her Now I need to decide if I want to load it and take it up there, (where I bought it) or leave it. Good news!! I did get me a new cheapy trout fishing rig
OH, got my Polaris 800 half way to the TH and it died, cranks, but wont fire 59 hrs on her
Now I need to decide if I want to load it and take it up there, (where I bought it) or leave it. Good news!! I did get me a new cheapy trout fishing rig It could always be worse, you could have to push a 300lb dirt bike/motorcycle 8.75 miles(in a foot of snow) down a mountain back to the trail head.....
I'll deal with only horses and mules for now on. If they break down you shoot them and the Bears, wolves and yotes will have it cleaned up by the next day...
Becareful and good luck.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 12:45 AM
Thanks BOBO, I'd have shot the bike if it stranded me that far in!
Yu going to make it up sir?
Yu going to make it up sir?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 02:42 AM
Safe travels Western. Best of luck to you.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 10:49 AM
Thanks Ringworm, think I'm going to wait until the atv dealer opens and give him a call, got it pushed up in the camper, but if he doesn't/wont have time, I'll roll it back out and haul tail.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 12:32 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
Thanks BOBO, I'd have shot the bike if it stranded me that far in!
Yu going to make it up sir?
Yu going to make it up sir?
Thought about shooting it but EPA and Park service probably would of taken everything I own.
Working on a 3rd season hunt. I've got some major dead lines at work that have to be knocked out first though.
Just got back from the panhandle yesterday chasing goats and elk. Let's just say I've eaten 4 tags this year. I'm actually looking forward to shelving the Ol' struggle stick this year and picking up the boom stick. Have I told you how much I hate those goats!!!
Anyway Good luck and becareful, look forward to the updates
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 12:45 PM
I know someone that would kill one of those speedgoats
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 02:19 PM
Originally Posted By: Western
I know someone that would kill one of those speedgoats
This one I got a little obsessed with, one of the biggest I've every seen. Lost a few arrows.. Mid to upper 80's
Posted By: mow
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/11/16 03:03 PM
man..i was at the original meeting when yall were putting this thing together about 3 years ago in cleburne..great group of guys..i just wish i could afford this..but after the 2000$ lease i hunt on..i just cant afford the elk hunt..but always dreamini will one day..wah..wah..wah..lol dood luck to all yall waiting with baited breath of all the storys yall update us on..also if sneaky isnt going..yall step up and give us updates like sneaky was good at..blessings to yall!! will be prayin for yalls safety and yes..that somebody scores..lol
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/12/16 02:13 PM
"I love it when a plan comes together." Stay safe, hunters. Post pics and kill something, lol.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/13/16 01:46 AM
I think I just about have everything ready for packing the truck on tuesday after shaving my head bald. Just have to decide on if Im going to bring the single cot or the coleman queen air cot.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/13/16 02:09 AM
Those air mattresses can get quite cold unless they have some insulated padding on them or you are sleeping on top of additional layers that you won't notice the cold air trapped inside it.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/13/16 02:11 AM
The cold im not to worried about being that Ill have a wood stove in the tent with me, the joys of a 14x16 wall tent from davis tent, that should keep it a decent temp, plus a 0 degree sleeping bag with liner.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/13/16 02:28 AM
Puts some rocks in the corner and poor some water on them when you get back to camp and I bet you could have a sauna with that setup. Lol. Your body will thank you later I am sure.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/14/16 06:32 PM
5 Days. Im leaving DFW after work on wednesday. The weather is looking good so far for the hunt. I hope you guys have some warm clothing/sleeping bags for at night as it looks like it will be below freezing everyday.
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/14/16 09:37 PM
Finally got my new rifle to group. Realized that the one piece base they sent me was for the wrong model of gun and couldn't keep it tight. Changed to another base and started banging steel out to 800 yards. Plan on leaving Granbury around 4 am Wednesday and head to Cortez, then get tags Thursday morning and head to our base camp. Good luck to all heading out next week and safe travels.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/17/16 05:26 PM
2 days left till I head out
Posted By: Nitro27
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/17/16 07:12 PM
Our group is leaving in the morning
Good luck to all going. Stay safe.
Good luck to all going. Stay safe.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/17/16 07:58 PM
Well it is official that I am not going. I have been hoping and praying that I could work something out at the last minute. Sitting at my desk in Israel right now and will be here for 2-6 weeks. I am really going to miss the hunt. Good luck to all.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/17/16 11:24 PM
So what's in my bag so far
Maven binos
Leopold range finder
Alaska guide Bino harness
Havlon skinner
Field knife
Sharpener
Game bags
Gloves
Personnel emergency kit
Head lamp
Back up light
Weather meter
Map
Compass
Good
Water
Lens cloth
Will try not to add to much more...
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/17/16 11:24 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Well it is official that I am not going. I have been hoping and praying that I could work something out at the last minute. Sitting at my desk in Israel right now and will be here for 2-6 weeks. I am really going to miss the hunt. Good luck to all.
Sucks but do what you got to do
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/17/16 11:34 PM
For those that can't make it - you're not alone.
For those that can - knock something down. And, of course, everybody stay safe.
For those that can - knock something down. And, of course, everybody stay safe.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/18/16 02:29 PM
Don't forget your rain gear Cleric.
Yall boys have fun. Sure wish dad and I could make it up there with yall. Good luck and stay safe!
Keep us posted when yall can and take lots of pics.
Yall boys have fun. Sure wish dad and I could make it up there with yall. Good luck and stay safe!
Keep us posted when yall can and take lots of pics.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/18/16 06:59 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Don't forget your rain gear Cleric.
I can hear the swish from Israel!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/18/16 07:45 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Don't forget your rain gear Cleric.
I can hear the swish from Israel!
Should I be worried that Cleric and I just had a conversation where he mentioned he was not going to pack his rain gear if it wasn't in the forecast? I am not sharing mine.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/18/16 07:52 PM
The rain gear he had last year could be heard in camp while he was on top of the mountain. But he did avenge himself when he shredded them falling down the mountain!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/18/16 09:07 PM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Don't forget your rain gear Cleric.
I can hear the swish from Israel!
You'll be fine ringworm. We just razz him a little about them briches he had.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/19/16 12:31 AM
Originally Posted By: Deep Sea
The rain gear he had last year could be heard in camp while he was on top of the mountain. But he did avenge himself when he shredded them falling down the mountain!
I didn't fall down the mountain. I merely found a new way to go down the mountain.
I am running highly water resistant gear. For the days it just squirted I will be fine. If rain is really coming in like last year I will take the rain gear
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/19/16 10:05 AM
Got on the road and heading to Cortez for the night. Left the house about 3:30 am this morning. All traveling this week be safe and happy hunting.
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/19/16 12:51 PM
Ready to leave Friday morning.... This is all son can talk about, and several co workers are asking me to bring back some Colorado Gummy bears.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/19/16 01:44 PM
Just a heads up to you guys, they are showing 70-90% rain on monday and tuesday for where you will be at.
Posted By: Stub
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/19/16 04:06 PM
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
Ready to leave Friday morning.... This is all son can talk about, and several co workers are asking me to bring back some Colorado Gummy bears.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/19/16 10:03 PM
Y'all be safe. It looks like the weather will be much better for hunting that when we were there last year.
Remember to not speed between Ft Sumner and Santa Rosa. They write LOTS of tickets there!!!
Remember to not speed between Ft Sumner and Santa Rosa. They write LOTS of tickets there!!!
Posted By: DOD
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 12:35 AM
Got to Cortez Co, ate a bite so time to turn it. 3 am came to early this morning. Heading up to Lizard Head Wilderness tomorrow.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 11:28 AM
Outside of Amarillo currently. Which should put me in Durango around 2
Posted By: hansond
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 12:37 PM
good luck guys and be safe
save so elk for me i'll be up there for 3rd season
save so elk for me i'll be up there for 3rd season
Posted By: TxAg
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 12:51 PM
Have not kept up with this thread, but wanted to say a big GOOD LUCK to all headed up to chase the elk around. Know y'all will have a great trip, hope you have some success with the elk too.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 07:45 PM
safe travels ya'll, be safe on the mountain and best wishes on finding some shooters!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 07:47 PM
Western check in yet?
Y'all be safe
Y'all be safe
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 07:55 PM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Western check in yet?
'Haven't heard from him.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/20/16 08:46 PM
In Durango about to head up the mountain
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/21/16 04:36 AM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Western check in yet?
'Haven't heard from him.
Been thinking about him all afternoon too. Hope he doing good.
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/21/16 04:37 AM
Originally Posted By: cmorsch
In Durango about to head up the mountain
Good Luck Sir
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/21/16 10:22 AM
On the road and just realized I never put my gun sling back on the rifle after going to the range. This is how one acquires so much redundant crap. I hope I can find a worthy replacement. Ugh!
This is how one acquires so much redundant crap. I hope I can find a worthy replacement. Ugh!
Posted By: Eyesofahunter
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/21/16 12:56 PM
Truck packed and ready to roll for noon departure to NW Wyoming for last week of season. Should be in the woods by noon tomorrow.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/21/16 01:06 PM
I'm camped up at the lime Mesa trailhead if you guys get bored on Taylor Mesa
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/21/16 04:23 PM
Happy hunting!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/22/16 10:53 AM
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
For those that can't make it - you're not alone.
For those that can - knock something down. And, of course, everybody stay safe.
For those that can - knock something down. And, of course, everybody stay safe.
X2!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 02:16 PM
Originally Posted By: 2Beez
Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Western check in yet?
'Haven't heard from him.
Been thinking about him all afternoon too. Hope he doing good.
Sorry fellas, been a rough 10 days.
Weather was the worst I have seen in over 30 years, hotter than normal, 60mph winds, constant 20-30, full moon. Even the outfitters I know hadn't killed but one in the 1st 3 days, elk where much higher than normal and in the deepest cracks they could find. Opening morning, I only wore t shirt under my jacket, had to pull the jacket off by 9am. AM temps where in the 50's and daytime 70's, was getting better the last day. I did let a small bear go, maybe 12 months old, took a crap 10 yards from me then cruised on.
2nd day, get a call from the wife, FIL fell and was taken to the hospital, they found 4 tumors in his head, so she flew out to NC. I had a couple places I wanted to go too, but didnt bring a small trailer for the UTV and I needed to stay in phone reception.
All I brought home was dirty clothes and 16 trout
Longest five day hunt I ever had...One funny thing, the camp that set up beside me where AH, they pitched a GP army octogon tent, rode atvs the whole time, guns out (big no no there). Sunday night the winds really kicked up, blew a vent right of the top of my camper! About 1am, I get a knock on the door, guns in hand, I open it. Fellas next door need to borrow flashlights. I turned on the trailer loading lights and lite up their camping spot, all their gear than wasnt nailed down was in the trees, the tent was half way up over the near trees, they left by 9-10am
Can't say what the fellas find this season, hopefully they get some weather.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 04:55 PM
Ha you get summer weather and I got teens and ft of snow.
Glad you made it home safe!
Glad you made it home safe!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 10:00 PM
The first THF Group Hunt Bull Elk is down! Details later when I get back home.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 10:03 PM
Posted By: TXSIGNGUY
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 10:39 PM
Posted By: basschump
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 10:45 PM
Excellent! Killing DIY OTC public land elk is a true accomplishment.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 11:38 PM
Glad your home safe Western. You would not have wanted me in that situation with your camp neighbors. You were a saint. Prayers for your FIL.
Ringworm - Congratulations, you son of a gun!
Ringworm - Congratulations, you son of a gun!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/23/16 11:53 PM
Congrats Ringworm!!!
CR, I was going to take care of it Monday if it happened again, but they left.
A buddies daughter also got her 1st bull today up there near where I hunt, they said they are still slow to move down yet.
CR, I was going to take care of it Monday if it happened again, but they left.
A buddies daughter also got her 1st bull today up there near where I hunt, they said they are still slow to move down yet.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 12:07 AM
Dude, Ringworm is a stud!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 12:24 AM
lets see pics when available. Congrats!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 12:49 AM
Hate to hear that, Western. I guess your luck was all used up on getting that tag again.
Hurry up with the pictures and details, Ringworm! I can't wait!
Hurry up with the pictures and details, Ringworm! I can't wait!
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 12:55 AM
Congrats! Can't wait to hear details!
Posted By: hansond
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 01:18 AM
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 03:01 AM
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 04:36 PM
Driving home now. Won't be in til late. Write up & 0ics to come tomorrow.
Western, sorry to hear about your ordeal. You are a better man than most it appears.
Western, sorry to hear about your ordeal. You are a better man than most it appears.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 05:05 PM
Drive safe.
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/24/16 05:16 PM
Congrats Ringworm Can't wait to hear the story and see some pics. Have a safe trip back
Hate to hear that Western. Glad to hear you made it back safe.
Can't wait to hear the story and see some pics. Have a safe trip back Hate to hear that Western. Glad to hear you made it back safe.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 03:16 PM
The rest of us are still here
The rain hit last night into today
Not many people are seeing signs only a handful of elk have been shot form what I can tell
The rain hit last night into today
Not many people are seeing signs only a handful of elk have been shot form what I can tell
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 03:32 PM
Keep on em. The elk don't go inside when it rains. Good luck!
Good luck!
Posted By: crosshare
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 03:53 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 03:56 PM
Originally Posted By: Cleric
The rest of us are still here
The rain hit last night into today
Not many people are seeing signs only a handful of elk have been shot form what I can tell
The rain hit last night into today
Not many people are seeing signs only a handful of elk have been shot form what I can tell
Yep, the weather set up I think was worse than last year, they where hardly even bugling during archery rut..
The Thursday prior to my hunt, weather was nice, I had at least one young sounding bull behind my camp, then Friday afternoon, the winds hit, coupled with warmer temps and full moon, elk just disappeared, likely back up high from what I was told by the outfitters.
Y'all have a long season, stay at it, they will likely trickle through. good luck fellas.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 03:57 PM
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Keep on em. The elk don't go inside when it rains. Good luck!
Good luck! Uh..There is a bar in Delores, bet the elk are there
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 05:40 PM
Sorry to hear your weather troubles Western. Never can predict what it does.
Uh..There is a bar in Delores, bet the elk are there
Very true! Last year someone brought a bottle of something to camp that was pretty good. Cant remember what it was though? Honey whiskey or something?
Originally Posted By: Western
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
Keep on em. The elk don't go inside when it rains. Good luck!
Good luck! Uh..There is a bar in Delores, bet the elk are there
Very true! Last year someone brought a bottle of something to camp that was pretty good. Cant remember what it was though? Honey whiskey or something?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 05:51 PM
That was the bottle of American Honey I brought, it is my favorite!
Posted By: ChrisB
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 06:06 PM
Alright, surely someone has a picture of this elk they can share. I've been reading these posts for three years now waiting for this pic.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 06:06 PM
That's it! That stuff was good!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 06:22 PM
I brought a couple of nice single malts the first year. Perhaps on a related note, I don't believe the gentleman that finally put an elk on the ground drinks a drop. Could there be a connection? Say it ain't so!
Could there be a connection? Say it ain't so!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 06:49 PM
We still haven't seen this so called bull yet
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 07:27 PM
maybe he is still trying to get it off the mountain ...
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 07:37 PM
That can't be it, Cleric knows the fastest way down.....
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 07:38 PM
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 07:51 PM
Dang, you guys are more impatient than a bunch of retired folk with large prostates and uncontrollable bladders.....wait you are.......
As the late Paul Harvey would say, "now....The Rest of the Story".
Left Midland at 0400 Friday morning and was anxious to get there early in hope of doing a little scouting with Cleric that evening. Made it to Durango by noon, ran through Wally-World like it was on fire, no line for a tag, grabbed few groceries and under 20 mins as back on the road to camp. Cleric had arrived the night before and scored the camping spot right next to the one we had two years ago. The Alabama boys beat us to the other one. Got to camp by 2:30ish, met Cleric for the first time, unloaded the truck and then we got to business. First thing I noticed was how dry it was. I have been going to a families ranch on the other side of Lizard for 15 plus years and never recall not seeing at least some of the aspens still holding on to shimmering fall colors of leaves. This year, not a single leaf on any of the trees. Grass was dry and crunchy. And that, as we have already been talking about was likely due to the extremely warm temps.
Cleric and talked about hunting strategies a little bit. Due to the warm temps we thought we would focus on going "up high". I had found a couple of nice spots on google earth prior to coming that were right at 11,200 ft (off to either side of the ridge of the mountain) but wasn't sure how hunt-able they would be in person. Cleric and I loaded up and drove 30 mins East to the trailhead and made a game plan to hunt there tomorrow.
About midnight or so TXBasser and his son drove in to camp. It wasn't soon after they had staked out their tent that we heard the truck start up and by golly, that sucker ran all night. Got a little chilly they did. Clerics alarm went off at 0330, due to the 30 min drive over and we weren't really sure how long it was gonna take to get to the top. Well, Cleric had a bad headache, and I had only slept maybe 3 hours in the past 24 hours, so we all just slept in and took it easy Saturday morning.
By noon it was go time. Cleric and I loaded up and headed to the trailhead which was just over 10,000ft elevation. We started up the trail making it to the ridge line and 11,200 ft after about and hour of hiking. Brought back memories for both of us from when Sneaky took us up the insanely steep Loading Pin Trail, 2 yrs ago for me, and last yr for Cleric. We headed south along the ridge to check out a couple places and I dropped Cleric off at a great spot that looked over a huge bowl just above tree line in spots with shot possibilities out to 1,000+ yds. I went north up the ridge peaking out just below 12,000 ft and found a clearing that had been logged in the past. We both had amazing views. Clerics side was completely isolated from hunters as there were no trail options coming from the East and it was extremely rugged and steep for someone to hunt. The only option was to come up the way we did form the West. I could glass about 4-5 opposing ridges/meadows 2,000+ yds from me where I watched 4 cows feed through a meadow. On my way back out I peaked off the 100-200 drop on the East side of the ridge and watched 3 mule deer feed. Otherwise nothing else was seen. No animals and no hunters. Cleric didn't see anything at his location. We descended down taking about us about 30 mins or so.
The game plan for the next morning (Sunday) was we would go back to the same spot on the ridge and see if we could catch them coming up top to bed down from feeding down lower. The alarm went off at 0400, Cleric wasn't feeling so well. Had a headache either from the elevation his body saw last night or something else. He had decided he was going to sleep in. I however, put my clothes on and was headed out to hunt. The funny thing about all of this was, yesterday we talked about if we did hunt together, who would shoot first. I asked if he had shot an elk before, and he replied no. I said, "unless its a wall hanger, which out here is highly unlikely, you can have the first shot because I have shot an elk before". He agreed and so that was the arrangement.
As I pulled out of camp I decided I would go back to where I hunted 2 yrs ago on the inaugural Group Hunt. I drove back to the gate, opting to not go further around and back to the 2nd gate because I had bent my passenger side running board on my, then, new truck when trying to get through the mud with Shawheel. Heck, even Sneaky about got stuck and he drives like a ......... well you know if you have ridden with him. :tax: I hiked the fence line to the second gate, walked down the long road downhill crossed the little stream and then headed West back up the hill. There was one small opening I would come to first and then a second larger opening that Shawheel, Creekrunner and myself all sat in the very first morning 2 yrs ago. The trail goes right through the meadow and looks like an amazing spot, however, as we all quickly found out 2 yrs ago, everyone and their dogs thought the same thing and/or used that trail to get to their location. There was just too much traffic on it 2 yrs ago we never sat there again.
So this year, I am approach the edge of that large meadow and immediately and hear what I presumed was a cow elk, let out 2 chirps. I froze instantly. Never heard footsteps or any other sounds. Then I thought, well maybe that's another hunter letting me know he is hunting there. I had no intentions to so I pointed my red lensed light towards the direction of the sound to let the hunter know I was a hunter in hopes that he would flash his light back at me to tell me to keep moving on. Well, there was no return light. At that point, I thought, I can sit here and take a chance, knowing full well that some hunter who decided to get up and go hunting at 7am would come blasting through on the trail and ruin it all for me or I could just keep moving on to where I wanted to go which was another 2 miles in. I decided it was worth the risk of staying. I found a tree 10 yds off the trail and sat down. I immediately let out a couple of cow chirps back but never got any response. It was roughly 5am at this point.
Around 6am, I let out a couple of cow calls hoping to draw something in or at least keep something nearby. I new darn well Bulls won't and don't respond this late in the year, but I have had success in pulling cows in with it and figured, usually, where there are cows there are bulls. Still no response. Around 6:45 i heard something crash through the timber behind me from the direction I came and immediately thought, "great, darn hunters are coming". They never came.
It's 0715 now, daylight. Sun isn't hitting me yet but it's definitely go time. Out of the corner of my eye on the opposite side of the opening just a couple yds back into the aspens I spot movement. I throw the binos up and notice its a cow elk. All I can see is her neck up. I start looking for more, but nothing. I watch her for a minute or two, let out a couple of cow calls. She hears me, looks my direction and then disappears. Ugh, I thought. Just ruined it. I keep glassing and looking with/out the binos, trying to locate her. Nothing. Then I spot a big bodied elk in the same vicinity but not into the aspens yet. I knew immediately it was a bull due to its size, but I couldn't see it's head. Then he walks past the tree blocking my view. "1,2,3...4,5..." Grace shooting sticks, grab gun, load a round (I was clearly not prepared to shoot an elk, lol), guess distance, hadn't ranged it, 100yds. Crap, now he is walking into the aspens. No shot, no shot, he is walking right to left. I advance to the next window of opportunity. He steps in, "KABOOM". .300 winmag lights him up. Great shot I thought (later confirmed), he immediately gets weak at the knees and looks dazed. The cow elk appears and bolts for the ravine 100yds away. I thought, "crap, if he has the steam to get to that ravine, I'll never get him out". Chambered another round, found his front shoulder, "Kaboo". DRT!
Unfortunately, my immediate response was, "oh man, I have never packed out an elk solo before. What am I thinking". That quickly passed. Temps were rising, and got to work. After tagging him, I chose to forego gutting him. Pulled the front, rear quarters off, backstrap and loins. The next thing I did, which was a gigantic mistake, was I took the head off. Now I had a heck of a time trying to roll this enormous animal to the opposite side. I could have used his head and antlers to twist his head and force the rest of the body to go with it. Instead I had to find a huge log, shimmy it under his belly and leverage it to get him to roll over. Started to work on the opposite side and then packed in game bags. I put a backstop and tenderloin in with each front shoulder, and then the rear quarters by themselves. So 5 loads total including the head.
Thank you Mystery Ranch for still having my pack on backorder. I had a Sitka Flash 20 as my day pack. It's great for day hunting. Packing out, lol, worthless. I had to go back to the truck to get my Osprey 7,000+cu in pack but I wasn't going back empty handed. Decided to jerry rig the head to my pack and carry it out. This by far was the worse load out of the 5. The pack just wasn't meant to carry a load like that. Once I go to the the truck, completely exhausted, I decided to drive it back around to the 2nd gate. Well, even with it as dry as it has been it was still muddy back there and extremely rough. And yes, I bent the riverside running board this time. So now I have matching bent running boards, both from the same spot 2 yrs apart.
It would take me 20 mins at a steady determined pace to get from the truck to the meat. I would quickly load it up, and then it would take me 25 mins to get the meat back out. I would rest for 15 mins, drinking fluids and eat a protein bar after every single load. After 7 hours from the moment I shot it and 12 miles logged, I was done. As I said before, this was the first time to pack out an elk solo before. I have killed several others, but it was on a private ranch where we just roll up in an UTV and hoist it up in back. I have a true new respect for those that venture out in the woods solo. If you aren't prepared it just might physically and mentally break you. I could have gone back to camp as I know all would have been eager to help, but I was against the clock due to the high temps. I would have spent 1.5-2 hours likely if I would have gone back for help. Though by the time I had finished, I should have.
This bull is by no means a wall hanger, but that was never my intention. Hunting OTC in Colorado is tough, odds are small, and especially in the area we are at, you might not see a single elk. My family loves to eat elk, and that was the purpose. As Cleric said and I agreed, "if it's legal and brown, it's down". The bar has been set, really really low I might add, lol. Missed seeing those I had hunted with 2 yrs ago. Got to meet Cleric, TxBasser and his boy however, and have continued to be impressed at the opportunities this forum provides people like me. Meeting great people, with similar interests. Only in Texas, only in Texas! Thanks for allowing me to share my story.
I am off to finally install the two new running boards I bought from Pitchfork Predator 2 yrs ago after I bent the first one.
As the late Paul Harvey would say, "now....The Rest of the Story".
Left Midland at 0400 Friday morning and was anxious to get there early in hope of doing a little scouting with Cleric that evening. Made it to Durango by noon, ran through Wally-World like it was on fire, no line for a tag, grabbed few groceries and under 20 mins as back on the road to camp. Cleric had arrived the night before and scored the camping spot right next to the one we had two years ago. The Alabama boys beat us to the other one. Got to camp by 2:30ish, met Cleric for the first time, unloaded the truck and then we got to business. First thing I noticed was how dry it was. I have been going to a families ranch on the other side of Lizard for 15 plus years and never recall not seeing at least some of the aspens still holding on to shimmering fall colors of leaves. This year, not a single leaf on any of the trees. Grass was dry and crunchy. And that, as we have already been talking about was likely due to the extremely warm temps.
Cleric and talked about hunting strategies a little bit. Due to the warm temps we thought we would focus on going "up high". I had found a couple of nice spots on google earth prior to coming that were right at 11,200 ft (off to either side of the ridge of the mountain) but wasn't sure how hunt-able they would be in person. Cleric and I loaded up and drove 30 mins East to the trailhead and made a game plan to hunt there tomorrow.
About midnight or so TXBasser and his son drove in to camp. It wasn't soon after they had staked out their tent that we heard the truck start up and by golly, that sucker ran all night. Got a little chilly they did.
Clerics alarm went off at 0330, due to the 30 min drive over and we weren't really sure how long it was gonna take to get to the top. Well, Cleric had a bad headache, and I had only slept maybe 3 hours in the past 24 hours, so we all just slept in and took it easy Saturday morning.By noon it was go time. Cleric and I loaded up and headed to the trailhead which was just over 10,000ft elevation. We started up the trail making it to the ridge line and 11,200 ft after about and hour of hiking. Brought back memories for both of us from when Sneaky took us up the insanely steep Loading Pin Trail, 2 yrs ago for me, and last yr for Cleric. We headed south along the ridge to check out a couple places and I dropped Cleric off at a great spot that looked over a huge bowl just above tree line in spots with shot possibilities out to 1,000+ yds. I went north up the ridge peaking out just below 12,000 ft and found a clearing that had been logged in the past. We both had amazing views. Clerics side was completely isolated from hunters as there were no trail options coming from the East and it was extremely rugged and steep for someone to hunt. The only option was to come up the way we did form the West. I could glass about 4-5 opposing ridges/meadows 2,000+ yds from me where I watched 4 cows feed through a meadow. On my way back out I peaked off the 100-200 drop on the East side of the ridge and watched 3 mule deer feed. Otherwise nothing else was seen. No animals and no hunters. Cleric didn't see anything at his location. We descended down taking about us about 30 mins or so.
The game plan for the next morning (Sunday) was we would go back to the same spot on the ridge and see if we could catch them coming up top to bed down from feeding down lower. The alarm went off at 0400, Cleric wasn't feeling so well. Had a headache either from the elevation his body saw last night or something else. He had decided he was going to sleep in. I however, put my clothes on and was headed out to hunt. The funny thing about all of this was, yesterday we talked about if we did hunt together, who would shoot first. I asked if he had shot an elk before, and he replied no. I said, "unless its a wall hanger, which out here is highly unlikely, you can have the first shot because I have shot an elk before". He agreed and so that was the arrangement.
As I pulled out of camp I decided I would go back to where I hunted 2 yrs ago on the inaugural Group Hunt. I drove back to the gate, opting to not go further around and back to the 2nd gate because I had bent my passenger side running board on my, then, new truck when trying to get through the mud with Shawheel. Heck, even Sneaky about got stuck and he drives like a ......... well you know if you have ridden with him. :tax: I hiked the fence line to the second gate, walked down the long road downhill crossed the little stream and then headed West back up the hill. There was one small opening I would come to first and then a second larger opening that Shawheel, Creekrunner and myself all sat in the very first morning 2 yrs ago. The trail goes right through the meadow and looks like an amazing spot, however, as we all quickly found out 2 yrs ago, everyone and their dogs thought the same thing and/or used that trail to get to their location. There was just too much traffic on it 2 yrs ago we never sat there again.
So this year, I am approach the edge of that large meadow and immediately and hear what I presumed was a cow elk, let out 2 chirps. I froze instantly. Never heard footsteps or any other sounds. Then I thought, well maybe that's another hunter letting me know he is hunting there. I had no intentions to so I pointed my red lensed light towards the direction of the sound to let the hunter know I was a hunter in hopes that he would flash his light back at me to tell me to keep moving on. Well, there was no return light. At that point, I thought, I can sit here and take a chance, knowing full well that some hunter who decided to get up and go hunting at 7am would come blasting through on the trail and ruin it all for me or I could just keep moving on to where I wanted to go which was another 2 miles in. I decided it was worth the risk of staying. I found a tree 10 yds off the trail and sat down. I immediately let out a couple of cow chirps back but never got any response. It was roughly 5am at this point.
Around 6am, I let out a couple of cow calls hoping to draw something in or at least keep something nearby. I new darn well Bulls won't and don't respond this late in the year, but I have had success in pulling cows in with it and figured, usually, where there are cows there are bulls. Still no response. Around 6:45 i heard something crash through the timber behind me from the direction I came and immediately thought, "great, darn hunters are coming". They never came.
It's 0715 now, daylight. Sun isn't hitting me yet but it's definitely go time. Out of the corner of my eye on the opposite side of the opening just a couple yds back into the aspens I spot movement. I throw the binos up and notice its a cow elk. All I can see is her neck up. I start looking for more, but nothing. I watch her for a minute or two, let out a couple of cow calls. She hears me, looks my direction and then disappears. Ugh, I thought. Just ruined it. I keep glassing and looking with/out the binos, trying to locate her. Nothing. Then I spot a big bodied elk in the same vicinity but not into the aspens yet. I knew immediately it was a bull due to its size, but I couldn't see it's head. Then he walks past the tree blocking my view. "1,2,3...4,5..." Grace shooting sticks, grab gun, load a round (I was clearly not prepared to shoot an elk, lol), guess distance, hadn't ranged it, 100yds. Crap, now he is walking into the aspens. No shot, no shot, he is walking right to left. I advance to the next window of opportunity. He steps in, "KABOOM". .300 winmag lights him up. Great shot I thought (later confirmed), he immediately gets weak at the knees and looks dazed. The cow elk appears and bolts for the ravine 100yds away. I thought, "crap, if he has the steam to get to that ravine, I'll never get him out". Chambered another round, found his front shoulder, "Kaboo". DRT!
Unfortunately, my immediate response was, "oh man, I have never packed out an elk solo before. What am I thinking". That quickly passed. Temps were rising, and got to work. After tagging him, I chose to forego gutting him. Pulled the front, rear quarters off, backstrap and loins. The next thing I did, which was a gigantic mistake, was I took the head off. Now I had a heck of a time trying to roll this enormous animal to the opposite side. I could have used his head and antlers to twist his head and force the rest of the body to go with it. Instead I had to find a huge log, shimmy it under his belly and leverage it to get him to roll over. Started to work on the opposite side and then packed in game bags. I put a backstop and tenderloin in with each front shoulder, and then the rear quarters by themselves. So 5 loads total including the head.
Thank you Mystery Ranch for still having my pack on backorder. I had a Sitka Flash 20 as my day pack. It's great for day hunting. Packing out, lol, worthless. I had to go back to the truck to get my Osprey 7,000+cu in pack but I wasn't going back empty handed. Decided to jerry rig the head to my pack and carry it out. This by far was the worse load out of the 5. The pack just wasn't meant to carry a load like that. Once I go to the the truck, completely exhausted, I decided to drive it back around to the 2nd gate. Well, even with it as dry as it has been it was still muddy back there and extremely rough. And yes, I bent the riverside running board this time. So now I have matching bent running boards, both from the same spot 2 yrs apart.
It would take me 20 mins at a steady determined pace to get from the truck to the meat. I would quickly load it up, and then it would take me 25 mins to get the meat back out. I would rest for 15 mins, drinking fluids and eat a protein bar after every single load. After 7 hours from the moment I shot it and 12 miles logged, I was done. As I said before, this was the first time to pack out an elk solo before. I have killed several others, but it was on a private ranch where we just roll up in an UTV and hoist it up in back. I have a true new respect for those that venture out in the woods solo. If you aren't prepared it just might physically and mentally break you. I could have gone back to camp as I know all would have been eager to help, but I was against the clock due to the high temps. I would have spent 1.5-2 hours likely if I would have gone back for help. Though by the time I had finished, I should have.
This bull is by no means a wall hanger, but that was never my intention. Hunting OTC in Colorado is tough, odds are small, and especially in the area we are at, you might not see a single elk. My family loves to eat elk, and that was the purpose. As Cleric said and I agreed, "if it's legal and brown, it's down". The bar has been set, really really low I might add, lol. Missed seeing those I had hunted with 2 yrs ago. Got to meet Cleric, TxBasser and his boy however, and have continued to be impressed at the opportunities this forum provides people like me. Meeting great people, with similar interests. Only in Texas, only in Texas! Thanks for allowing me to share my story.
I am off to finally install the two new running boards I bought from Pitchfork Predator 2 yrs ago after I bent the first one.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 08:05 PM
Great read Ringworm, and I know just what you mean about packing them out, how it goes for me most of the time..Congrats bud, well done
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 08:08 PM
Great read and congrats! Well done!
Posted By: hansond
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 08:13 PM
great write up and congrats
Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 08:22 PM
Congrats, well done and SOLO. Lifetime memory.
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 08:45 PM
Great write up and pics Very well done Sir
Very well done Sir
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 09:02 PM
Really enjoyed the write-up and the photos, great accomplishment!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 09:04 PM
Great write up! Congratulations! Packing out solo would be one of my worst nightmares but sounds like it wasn't that far from where you could drive too.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 09:08 PM
That ain't no small feat you pulled off young man. Very well done. Considering how he was taken, a heckuva trophy. (And it made my back hurt just reading the pack out portion.)
Posted By: LandPirate
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 10:02 PM
Posted By: Stub
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 10:20 PM
Congratulations Thanks for sharing your very interesting hunting experience, that had to be a lot of fun, hard work, good times and very cool memories to last until the next adventure
Did you do any physical training specifically for the hunt, if so what?
Thanks for sharing your very interesting hunting experience, that had to be a lot of fun, hard work, good times and very cool memories to last until the next adventure Did you do any physical training specifically for the hunt, if so what?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/25/16 10:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Stub
Congratulations Thanks for sharing your very interesting hunting experience, that had to be a lot of fun, hard work, good times and very cool memories to last until the next adventure
Did you do any physical training specifically for the hunt, if so what?
Thanks for sharing your very interesting hunting experience, that had to be a lot of fun, hard work, good times and very cool memories to last until the next adventure Did you do any physical training specifically for the hunt, if so what?
Yes & no. As a normal routine, I lift weights 3 times a week and cycle 50-100 miles a week. This is just my normal weekly routine. Granted it varies to some degree, a little more or a little less depending on work and family. I did not alter that routine for preparation for this hunt. I figured it would be sufficient and after the fact feel it was.
The only thing you truly can't train for is, being at elevation. That's what gets you. I sucked wind that first evening, mainly when I went from 11,200 to just shy of 12,000. It was very steep and the air a lot more thin at least to me.
I shot my bull at about 9200 I think. Elevation didn't bother me at all. It was physical exhaustion in my thighs and discomfort in the arches of my feet. I feel that the cycling paid major dividends in strengthening my lower body.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 03:43 AM
That is just outstanding. Great write up, too. All the details I was curious about. We'll done, ringworm. I wish I could have been there.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 05:21 AM
Congrats again Ringworm, and like others said well written summary. I know exactly where you were and that makes the story that much better for me! Maybe next year I'll be able to make the trip and we can "break in" those new running boards of yours!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 11:00 AM
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Glad you made it home safe!
Me too!
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 02:30 PM
Puttin' in work! Congrats!
Posted By: TxAg
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 02:49 PM
That bull was well-earned. Packing one out solo is no small chore. Nice job sir.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 08:19 PM
Good job
Posted By: Wilhunt
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 08:59 PM
Congrats on the elk for sure. Thanks for sharing your story and the pictures.
Posted By: ChrisB
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 10:26 PM
Congrats. Is the rest of the group still up there?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 10:40 PM
Yes, Cleric and TxBasser and his son are still there. I hated to leave but with temps as high as they were, I'd have to drive in to town every day to buy ice to keep the meat from spoiling. I sure wish I could have shot it later in the week. I was really looking forward to 8 days in the mountains.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 10:46 PM
there is cold storage in Durango, Bayfield, Chimney Rock ... likely Dolores too ... just another thought a bit after the fact 
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 10:51 PM
Ringworm. iirc, there is a locker in Mancos. I have had to store one a couple of times, that or go ahead and pay for processing... The warm temps this season sure put the urge on for sure..
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/26/16 11:39 PM
Ugh, had no idea. Thanks for the info guys.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 12:31 PM
yep, I was with a group of about 7-8 people, carpooled up in 3 trucks (mine not being one of them), killed my elk opening morning ... took to processor in Durango when I got it off the mountain the following day. The remaining 8 days I would take others out to where they wanted to hunt early morning, then I went sightseeing and cooked dinner until dark thirty when I picked them up. The processor had it all done by the time we left. Did similar with a Muley when hunting closer to Chimney Rock.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 03:43 PM
So on the whole been a rough week...
Alitiude hit me hard the first few days. Although we did get up to 11.5k this week
There just have not been many elk signs. A lot of people moved of The Mesa earlier in the week. I will hunt the evening then head back for Texas tomorrow morning
Alitiude hit me hard the first few days. Although we did get up to 11.5k this week
There just have not been many elk signs. A lot of people moved of The Mesa earlier in the week. I will hunt the evening then head back for Texas tomorrow morning
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 04:12 PM
Keep at em Cleric. Good luck this evening.
Posted By: MacDaddy21
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 04:40 PM
Cleric, have you ever tried any of the altitude adjustment pills? I've never really had much of an issue with altitude but my wife used to take them every time we went to Breckenridge to snowboard and they really seemed to help her.
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 04:44 PM
Water, water and more water is the key prevention to altitude sickness, however it can hit anyone regardless of how many times you have been up in the mountains. Another key is to get below 7,000 feet until you recover.
Posted By: MacDaddy21
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 04:53 PM
Absolutely water is the most important and I'm sure Cleric knows that...but the pills certainly can help as well.
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 05:28 PM
I'm not saying don't use the pills, I'd do everything I could not to get altitude sickness. Heck, I'm even drink some snake oil if someone said it would help. Speaking of that, drinking some of the other stuff only increases your chance of getting sick because it thins your blood which means your not carry as much oxygen as you should.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 06:06 PM
Prevention is key, as stated above. Several ways to do that. Cleric knew hydration was key and admitted he was behind in his water intake and was really making an effort to catch up. He never went anywhere w/o his yeti rambler full of water while I was there. I think that is what caused his symptoms. Sounds like he has acclimated though and is all in on finding an elk.
Most of us are computer savvy and can do google searches in our sleep, however, I am thinking about starting a thread titled, "Altitude or Acute Mountain Sickness" in the open hunting discussion forum to give some evidence based literature that supports what is the current recommendations out there. I by know means will cover it all nor will I give medical advise as to what you should take or if it's right for you, nor am I an expert in the field, but simply want to provide some easily accessible resources for you all to have that I have found useful. Two of the options I have tried and can comment on, however there are multiple other options that won't be covered (some of which have no supporting research to back up their claims....which is okay, I however tend to avoid those...no biggie) and some of the current options don't work for everyone or are contra-indicated for use in certain people. In the end, you have to decide what is best for you and should seek medical advice from your personal physician, when necessary, to assist in making those decisions.
Most of us are computer savvy and can do google searches in our sleep, however, I am thinking about starting a thread titled, "Altitude or Acute Mountain Sickness" in the open hunting discussion forum to give some evidence based literature that supports what is the current recommendations out there. I by know means will cover it all nor will I give medical advise as to what you should take or if it's right for you, nor am I an expert in the field, but simply want to provide some easily accessible resources for you all to have that I have found useful. Two of the options I have tried and can comment on, however there are multiple other options that won't be covered (some of which have no supporting research to back up their claims....which is okay, I however tend to avoid those...no biggie) and some of the current options don't work for everyone or are contra-indicated for use in certain people. In the end, you have to decide what is best for you and should seek medical advice from your personal physician, when necessary, to assist in making those decisions.
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 06:08 PM
Hang in there Cleric, fortune can smile at any minute.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 06:22 PM
Use ginger (the spice) for the sickness, before, or after symptoms start, works great and has no negatives.. You can get it at walmart in a capsule. The normal stuff for sea sickness and altitude, can actually kill you if you're one of the unlucky ones.
Also less alcohol is best and hydrate, as already mentioned.
Also less alcohol is best and hydrate, as already mentioned.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/27/16 06:25 PM
Hang in there Cleric, it isn't over until you quit, or the bell rings. No one can say y'all haven't given it hell either.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/30/16 10:46 AM
Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Yes, Cleric and TxBasser and his son are still there. I hated to leave but with temps as high as they were, I'd have to drive in to town every day to buy ice to keep the meat from spoiling. I sure wish I could have shot it later in the week. I was really looking forward to 8 days in the mountains.
Posted By: hansond
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/31/16 12:15 AM
I hope someone had some luck. We are headed out wensday, weather was looking cooler but that changed. Hoping to find some resident elk or some pushed down by all the pressure
Posted By: tx_basser
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/31/16 01:54 PM
Finally getting back online..... great overall experience, and meeting such quality people as Shane and Daniel at this hunt.
Overall not a big fan of Taylor Mesa due to the hunting pressure, etc. Look like there is a population of resident elk, but they are hunted hard and I think figured out how to avoid being shot, etc. Son and I found some active sign, but from what we could tell they had gone nocturnal due to hunting pressure.
After two days of hunting them, I decided to try and run around and find some different areas to try as I did not want to be stuck for a week trying to pattern what small group of elk were on Taylor Mesa. We spent two days up in Lizard Head and saw allot of active sign from some larger animals, and again looked like the hunting pressure and heat were causing them animals to be nocturnal.
We were eating in town and one of the locals said Stoner Mesa seemed be getting allot of action, as the hunting pressure over there was getting the animals moving. We drove up there and sure enough we heard more shooting, but it also looked like a Pumpkin Patch. So we headed further SW and stared hunting some of the canyons that lead into the desert. We found more active sign and actually heard some Bulls and Cows one evening but it was too late to get over the ridge try and see/locate them.
Overall enjoyed the trip.. I still say.. you're not going to find any better people than what you find here on the THF and TFF.
Overall not a big fan of Taylor Mesa due to the hunting pressure, etc. Look like there is a population of resident elk, but they are hunted hard and I think figured out how to avoid being shot, etc. Son and I found some active sign, but from what we could tell they had gone nocturnal due to hunting pressure.
After two days of hunting them, I decided to try and run around and find some different areas to try as I did not want to be stuck for a week trying to pattern what small group of elk were on Taylor Mesa. We spent two days up in Lizard Head and saw allot of active sign from some larger animals, and again looked like the hunting pressure and heat were causing them animals to be nocturnal.
We were eating in town and one of the locals said Stoner Mesa seemed be getting allot of action, as the hunting pressure over there was getting the animals moving. We drove up there and sure enough we heard more shooting, but it also looked like a Pumpkin Patch. So we headed further SW and stared hunting some of the canyons that lead into the desert. We found more active sign and actually heard some Bulls and Cows one evening but it was too late to get over the ridge try and see/locate them.
Overall enjoyed the trip.. I still say.. you're not going to find any better people than what you find here on the THF and TFF.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/31/16 04:45 PM
TX Basser, good review and I agree with you, hard to find better people than here on THF. I made the DIY hunt last year and had a good time. Missed this year due to lack of work building up to the hunt, then too much work during the hunt! I am thinking about trying another unit for next year, like 75 near Pagosa Springs. I am interested in looking at property in that area to buy anyway so might try there next season. Glad you had an enjoyable hunt.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 10/31/16 05:14 PM
Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Originally Posted By: Stub
Congratulations Thanks for sharing your very interesting hunting experience, that had to be a lot of fun, hard work, good times and very cool memories to last until the next adventure
Did you do any physical training specifically for the hunt, if so what?
Thanks for sharing your very interesting hunting experience, that had to be a lot of fun, hard work, good times and very cool memories to last until the next adventure Did you do any physical training specifically for the hunt, if so what?
Yes & no. As a normal routine, I lift weights 3 times a week and cycle 50-100 miles a week. This is just my normal weekly routine. Granted it varies to some degree, a little more or a little less depending on work and family. I did not alter that routine for preparation for this hunt. I figured it would be sufficient and after the fact feel it was.
The only thing you truly can't train for is, being at elevation. That's what gets you. I sucked wind that first evening, mainly when I went from 11,200 to just shy of 12,000. It was very steep and the air a lot more thin at least to me.
I shot my bull at about 9200 I think. Elevation didn't bother me at all. It was physical exhaustion in my thighs and discomfort in the arches of my feet. I feel that the cycling paid major dividends in strengthening my lower body.
Congrats on the bull and enjoy the meat!!! It's a great feeling eating dinner and knowing you beat the mountain and the elk!!!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 11/06/16 11:05 AM
Originally Posted By: tx_basser
Overall enjoyed the trip.. I still say.. you're not going to find any better people than what you find here on the THF and TFF.
I agree!
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Re: 2016 Group Elk Hunt? - 11/08/16 12:14 PM
Congrats on your bull Ringworm, well done.