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bad boy ectric 4 x 4

Posted By: goodgolly3811

bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/08/14 10:06 PM

Looking to get a mule type vehicle. Does anyone know about the badboy electric 4x4? Thanks
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/08/14 10:17 PM

They look pretty handy, but I've heard they're a little overpriced for a lifted golf cart. I don't know. I've never priced them. I just drive my pickup everywhere.
Posted By: tlk

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/08/14 10:34 PM

DON'T Do It
Posted By: 7ARanch

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/09/14 12:03 AM

They are higher voltage (72 I think) than a regular golf cart and have lots of other features to include 4WD. Having said that minus 4WD you can do 90+% of what the BAD BOY will do with a properly equipped regular golf cart. That includes raising it, tires, chipping it and if needed changing out the gearing for more low end, limited slip etc. You can do all that for a fraction of the price you would pay for a BB. You can also do it incrementally so you don't come out of pocket all at once. I see your in Keller go see Terry Hundley at Grapevine Golf Cars and tell him what you want. He can do a refurbished cart with a good warranty and make anything you want. Tell him Mark A sent you, he'll take good care of you. I bought one from him and my brother has bought two not to mention the 30+ people I know that bought one from him for use at trophy club when they made them street legal.
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/09/14 12:21 AM

If you hunt on property that you drive several miles to get back and forth to your hunting sets don't buy one. You need a gas powered rig unless where you hunt is pretty confined.
Posted By: tlk

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/09/14 02:09 AM

Once again - don't do it - you will regret it - junk
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/09/14 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By: tlk
Once again - don't do it - you will regret it - junk



Have you owned one or are you just speculating? I'm asking, not arguing or questioning you if you know what I mean.
Posted By: tlk

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/09/14 11:19 AM

Originally Posted By: grout-scout
Originally Posted By: tlk
Once again - don't do it - you will regret it - junk



Have you owned one or are you just speculating? I'm asking, not arguing or questioning you if you know what I mean.


Have been on numerous leases where guys bought these and they we poorly made and had issues from the get go - if you are going electric the Polaris is probably best bet but I would not have one of them either unless it was on a small place that was pretty level. Just have seen too many people try electric and regret it
Posted By: kry226

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/09/14 11:45 AM

I'll probably go the golf cart route, but my one main concern knowing I haven't put too much research into this, is ensuring the suspension has good articulation. It needs to soak up the bumps or you'll be peeing blood for the rest of your life.
Posted By: cyberpyrot

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/09/14 11:48 AM

get a wild cat trail.
Posted By: EddieWalker

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/10/14 12:49 PM

I had a golf cart for a couple of years and they just don't hold up very well out in the country. There is a reason golf courses turn them over so often. I've never had a bad boy anything and when it came time to upgrade to something more reliable and heavy duty, I never even considered anything battery powered. After looking around, I liked the Kawasaki Trans Mule the best. It's not for mudding, but it does great in the mud or snow. It's just an easy to drive, comfortable and reliable vehicle that gets me out there when it's too nasty to walk. Red clay is just miserable once it starts to stick to my boots, but it's nothing for the Mule. Having that back seat is really handy too, but most of the time it's folded down because we haul so much stuff with it.

Eddie
Posted By: SniperRAB

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/10/14 12:57 PM

It would be like bringing a knife to a gun fight or a 28 gauge to a Skeet shoot...Why
As stated earlier, if you drive a few hundered yards on a good road and dont haul anything but you to the stand, let er rip...

You would get more bang for your buck on a good UTV or just drive your truck if applicable..
Good Luck
Posted By: wfontjr

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/10/14 10:22 PM

the ambush has one axle gas and one electric. Seems the way to go. i have two ezgo and they do not hold up to hunting. just not made to handle terrain. i would also like to hear actuall owners of the bad boy ambush because one is in my plans some day

I see more deer since i went electric
Posted By: wisco-hunter

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/11/14 01:07 AM

The guys I hunt with have one, overpriced but work great. Had to replace batteries last year after 5 years. I'd say we get about 5 to 6 miles out of it before you have to recharge. Recharging takes 7 hours and you need to follow recharging instructions to a T or you will ruin the batteries.
Posted By: tlk

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/11/14 11:18 AM

I was on a lease where a member bought a Bad Boy - everyone on the lease ended up calling it Bad Barbie - the thing fell apart on him
Posted By: 10ring

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/12/14 12:50 AM

Just get a good old jeep or toyota etc... For the money spent on a BadBoy or other carts you can have a very good "real automobile". 2cents
A lot of the folks I've hunted with over the years that have invested big $ into carts have gone back to a small truck or jeep type of rig.
Posted By: Loanman

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/13/14 12:59 PM

Had an older cart before, but depending on where your stands are and the terrain is like, it may not be the best choice.
Sounds like everyone agrees here, UTV's are the way to go for hunting.
I sold my last cart and and bought a fully loaded Arctic Cat Prowler with all the baskets ( triple C package by John Campbell in cleburne)

We can put 600 lbs of corn, 2-3 guys, 2 dead hogs, all tools, guns and packs in it...and be gone all day working on feeders and hunting.
They are invaluable!
Posted By: tlk

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/13/14 01:39 PM

I have been through multiple rangers etc. bought a kubota 1100. If you want comfort, dust free, ac heat etc check them out. It is like a truck cab
Posted By: Dave B

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/13/14 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: EddieWalker
I had a golf cart for a couple of years and they just don't hold up very well out in the country. There is a reason golf courses turn them over so often. I've never had a bad boy anything and when it came time to upgrade to something more reliable and heavy duty, I never even considered anything battery powered. After looking around, I liked the Kawasaki Trans Mule the best. It's not for mudding, but it does great in the mud or snow. It's just an easy to drive, comfortable and reliable vehicle that gets me out there when it's too nasty to walk. Red clay is just miserable once it starts to stick to my boots, but it's nothing for the Mule. Having that back seat is really handy too, but most of the time it's folded down because we haul so much stuff with it.

Eddie

Have to disagree. I have a lifted golf cart and I can tow my 5 X 8 foot trailer with a 275 gallon water tote full of water without any problem. Can haul 250 to 300 lbs of corn in rough Hill Country rocky terrain with my wife on board and never miss a lick or bog down. I plug it into the charger every night but have never been able to run it out of power with all of the use it get's.
Posted By: daniel1381

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/13/14 11:12 PM

Jeep is the way to go.. and my dumb self has a side x side
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/13/14 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave B
Originally Posted By: EddieWalker
I had a golf cart for a couple of years and they just don't hold up very well out in the country. There is a reason golf courses turn them over so often. I've never had a bad boy anything and when it came time to upgrade to something more reliable and heavy duty, I never even considered anything battery powered. After looking around, I liked the Kawasaki Trans Mule the best. It's not for mudding, but it does great in the mud or snow. It's just an easy to drive, comfortable and reliable vehicle that gets me out there when it's too nasty to walk. Red clay is just miserable once it starts to stick to my boots, but it's nothing for the Mule. Having that back seat is really handy too, but most of the time it's folded down because we haul so much stuff with it.

Eddie

Have to disagree. I have a lifted golf cart and I can tow my 5 X 8 foot trailer with a 275 gallon water tote full of water without any problem. Can haul 250 to 300 lbs of corn in rough Hill Country rocky terrain with my wife on board and never miss a lick or bog down. I plug it into the charger every night but have never been able to run it out of power with all of the use it get's.


How big is the property you use it on?
Posted By: EddieWalker

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 01:18 PM

Dave B,

I have no doubt that your golf cart does all those things. Mine was great for awhile too. That wasn't my point. After a few years, it wasn't as good at it used to be and things started to break on it. Relay switches for it to change speeds, brackets came off and the batteries went from lasting several days, to needing charging every day, and if we had friends over and they where running it back and forth from the pond to the house, it would die sometime late in the afternoon. I have 68 acres and my roads are pretty smooth. I drive my 2 wheel drive truck on them all the time. I'm not into off roading or mudding, it was just to get from one place to another, or go for a little drive with my wife. The Mule does all that and a lot more. Night and day better. Before buying the Mule I shopped around, starting with four seat golf carts with gas engines and worked my way up to spending what it took to by the Mule. I didn't want to spend that much money, but now that I've had it a few years, I can't imagine life without it.
Posted By: kry226

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 04:02 PM

At the end of the day, I think it's about what folks desire for their UTV. I think the only true reason to go electric is to prevent the spooking of so much game and maybe less maintenance, and I am pretty sure that's what folks want it for. The other part of it is cost. A person can replace batteries once a year for ten years on a used golf cart and never surpass the initial cost of one of today's gas UTVs.

For me, if an electric didn't fit the bill, and I'm not sure that it does, I'd just get an old used Tacoma with 4wd and have A/C, a greater payload, quieter operation, and probably cheaper price. Heck, with as used to tractors as the deer are at my place, I may just use my tractor to do all my property work and errands. It will probably make a great mobile deer stand in a pinch too.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 04:13 PM

10 $150 batteries don't sound like less maintenance.. I used to have to keep up with two of them... they were for escorting people around the ranch lodge, 5stand, spa what not and they had trouble just keeping up with that... anytime someone left out on the ranch road over a mile they would have to be retrieved and this is with keeping liquid checked in the batteries and kept on a trickle charger.. if one battery started to go it would drag all the rest and ruin them also... never ever will I buy one. ever
Posted By: kry226

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
10 $150 batteries don't sound like less maintenance.. I used to have to keep up with two of them... they were for escorting people around the ranch lodge, 5stand, spa what not and they had trouble just keeping up with that... anytime someone left out on the ranch road over a mile they would have to be retrieved and this is with keeping liquid checked in the batteries and kept on a trickle charger.. if one battery started to go it would drag all the rest and ruin them also... never ever will I buy one. ever


Nav, that was just an extreme example for comparision, and probably not the rule. But understand that I don't have electric, nor am I in the market. No dog in this fight.

But there are lot of veriables in building and maintaining electric vehicles. Cheap batteries ususally do not yield favorable results. Spend the money on quality batteries and do it right the first time. If those vehicles you were maintaining had Lifelines in them, your opinion might be completely different. Or it could be the same, I guess. Doubtful, though.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: kry226
Originally Posted By: Navasot
10 $150 batteries don't sound like less maintenance.. I used to have to keep up with two of them... they were for escorting people around the ranch lodge, 5stand, spa what not and they had trouble just keeping up with that... anytime someone left out on the ranch road over a mile they would have to be retrieved and this is with keeping liquid checked in the batteries and kept on a trickle charger.. if one battery started to go it would drag all the rest and ruin them also... never ever will I buy one. ever


Nav, that was just an extreme example for comparision, and probably not the rule. But understand that I don't have electric, nor am I in the market. No dog in this fight.

But there are lot of veriables in building and maintaining electric vehicles. Cheap batteries ususally do not yield favorable results. Spend the money on quality batteries and do it right the first time. If those vehicles you were maintaining had Lifelines in them, your opinion might be completely different. Or it could be the same, I guess. Doubtful, though.


Didn't mean to single you out sorry it came off that way.

But these were the top shelf batteries also... it seemed like once they got ran down to nothing once it was hard to keep um holding after that. If they stayed around the lodge and what not it wasn't much of a hassle they served their purpose but sure enough someone would eventually try and make a run to the gut pile with it and never returned... well an hour later on foot
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: kry226
Originally Posted By: Navasot
10 $150 batteries don't sound like less maintenance.. I used to have to keep up with two of them... they were for escorting people around the ranch lodge, 5stand, spa what not and they had trouble just keeping up with that... anytime someone left out on the ranch road over a mile they would have to be retrieved and this is with keeping liquid checked in the batteries and kept on a trickle charger.. if one battery started to go it would drag all the rest and ruin them also... never ever will I buy one. ever


Nav, that was just an extreme example for comparision, and probably not the rule. But understand that I don't have electric, nor am I in the market. No dog in this fight.

But there are lot of veriables in building and maintaining electric vehicles. Cheap batteries ususally do not yield favorable results. Spend the money on quality batteries and do it right the first time. If those vehicles you were maintaining had Lifelines in them, your opinion might be completely different. Or it could be the same, I guess. Doubtful, though.


Didn't mean to single you out sorry it came off that way.

But these were the top shelf batteries also... it seemed like once they got ran down to nothing once it was hard to keep um holding after that. If they stayed around the lodge and what not it wasn't much of a hassle they served their purpose but sure enough someone would eventually try and make a run to the gut pile with it and never returned... well an hour later on foot


I have a 48 V buggy with 5 yr old Trojan batteries that are finally dying this year, and it gets used all the time. From the time they were new up until this year, I would get 18-20 miles out of a charge. Mostly pretty flat country that I'm running in, only a few hills. I love my buggy, I especially love it being quiet when I'm out stalking pigs with night vision (main reason I bought it). It does good in the mud but it doesn't like deep water I've learned so I go around. If I need something with more juevos I'll grab one of the 4 wheelers.
Posted By: kry226

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: kry226
Originally Posted By: Navasot
10 $150 batteries don't sound like less maintenance.. I used to have to keep up with two of them... they were for escorting people around the ranch lodge, 5stand, spa what not and they had trouble just keeping up with that... anytime someone left out on the ranch road over a mile they would have to be retrieved and this is with keeping liquid checked in the batteries and kept on a trickle charger.. if one battery started to go it would drag all the rest and ruin them also... never ever will I buy one. ever


Nav, that was just an extreme example for comparision, and probably not the rule. But understand that I don't have electric, nor am I in the market. No dog in this fight.

But there are lot of veriables in building and maintaining electric vehicles. Cheap batteries ususally do not yield favorable results. Spend the money on quality batteries and do it right the first time. If those vehicles you were maintaining had Lifelines in them, your opinion might be completely different. Or it could be the same, I guess. Doubtful, though.


Didn't mean to single you out sorry it came off that way.

But these were the top shelf batteries also... it seemed like once they got ran down to nothing once it was hard to keep um holding after that. If they stayed around the lodge and what not it wasn't much of a hassle they served their purpose but sure enough someone would eventually try and make a run to the gut pile with it and never returned... well an hour later on foot


No worries at all. My point, which wasn't really directed at you, is that there is so much more to maintaining anything you need to rely on than plugging in the cord for electric or filling the tank for a gas ute. It's not uncommon at all, especially with non-deep cycle batteries, for them to crap out once they've been fully discharged. Many times, there's no bringing them back. Were the lodge's carts using the correct batteries? How were they cared for before you were working with them? Even the best batteries not used as intended will be short lived.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: kry226
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: kry226
Originally Posted By: Navasot
10 $150 batteries don't sound like less maintenance.. I used to have to keep up with two of them... they were for escorting people around the ranch lodge, 5stand, spa what not and they had trouble just keeping up with that... anytime someone left out on the ranch road over a mile they would have to be retrieved and this is with keeping liquid checked in the batteries and kept on a trickle charger.. if one battery started to go it would drag all the rest and ruin them also... never ever will I buy one. ever


Nav, that was just an extreme example for comparision, and probably not the rule. But understand that I don't have electric, nor am I in the market. No dog in this fight.

But there are lot of veriables in building and maintaining electric vehicles. Cheap batteries ususally do not yield favorable results. Spend the money on quality batteries and do it right the first time. If those vehicles you were maintaining had Lifelines in them, your opinion might be completely different. Or it could be the same, I guess. Doubtful, though.


Didn't mean to single you out sorry it came off that way.

But these were the top shelf batteries also... it seemed like once they got ran down to nothing once it was hard to keep um holding after that. If they stayed around the lodge and what not it wasn't much of a hassle they served their purpose but sure enough someone would eventually try and make a run to the gut pile with it and never returned... well an hour later on foot


No worries at all. My point, which wasn't really directed at you, is that there is so much more to maintaining anything you need to rely on than plugging in the cord for electric or filling the tank for a gas ute. It's not uncommon at all, especially with non-deep cycle batteries, for them to crap out once they've been fully discharged. Many times, there's no bringing them back. Were the lodge's carts using the correct batteries? How were they cared for before you were working with them? Even the best batteries not used as intended will be short lived.


They wernt treated the best from what I could tell... I had to clean the plugs to one and all the connectors since they were corroded... few new batteries and what not.. after that they were fine for what they were suppose to be used for but still needed all new batteries since the longest I seen one go on a charge was 5 miles
Posted By: kry226

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
They wernt treated the best from what I could tell... I had to clean the plugs to one and all the connectors since they were corroded... few new batteries and what not.. after that they were fine for what they were suppose to be used for but still needed all new batteries since the longest I seen one go on a charge was 5 miles

Figured. One of the problems is mixing new with old batteries as well. Always replace as a set. Shouldn't have to baby anything, just do some smart things to prevent a lot of issues that crop up. You may never change your view of the electric side of the house, but I think it's always wise to look at things in the proper perspective and from the correct context.

That said, I'm still probably going the old Tacoma route. cheers
Posted By: Navasot

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/14/14 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: kry226
Originally Posted By: Navasot
They wernt treated the best from what I could tell... I had to clean the plugs to one and all the connectors since they were corroded... few new batteries and what not.. after that they were fine for what they were suppose to be used for but still needed all new batteries since the longest I seen one go on a charge was 5 miles

Figured. One of the problems is mixing new with old batteries as well. Always replace as a set. Shouldn't have to baby anything, just do some smart things to prevent a lot of issues that crop up. You may never change your view of the electric side of the house, but I think it's always wise to look at things in the proper perspective and from the correct context.

That said, I'm still probably going the old Tacoma route. cheers


Yup an estimate of $300 looked better than $1300 when I told them what was needed ha
Posted By: Pittstate

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/15/14 12:20 AM

I have a bad boy buggie and love it. I see tons more game since I took the gas powered UTV off the ranch. It has tons more power than a lifted 48 volt golf cart and the suspension is 4 times stronger. I was pulling a trailer with 330 gallon water tote full of water up nice hills without a problem. Mine gets about 10 to 12 miles per charge, which is plenty for me every day. I usually just plug it in before I leave the ranch and it is ready to go when I come back. That tuff suspension does come with a slightly harder ride than my other toys.
Posted By: Westtexan1

Re: bad boy ectric 4 x 4 - 10/15/14 01:31 AM

I used a golf cart I picked up off Craigslist for $1500 and it works great on out 1000 acres. Quit a bit of up and down but not too rocky. The speed is what I wish I had more of but I see a ton more deer and hogs now. Next step for me would just be an old single cab ford ranger and chop the top if I want or just remove the doors. Heck of a lot cheaper than these UTVs these days.
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