Tulsa Burning

Tulsa Burning, 100 years later.

Just finished the book, "The Five Civilized Tribes" by Grant Foreman.

The five (5) civilized Tribes were: Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole.

Each of the five Tribes were major black slave owners and when they were moved to Oklahoma they took they slaves with them. That was part of the deal with the Government.

Wonder if the folks from Tulsa are going to ask the Indians for reparations? If they do, I would pay to be there when that happens.

Interesting, I never knew that the Indians had slaves.

They didn't.

They most certainly did. Plenty of historical documentation to prove it as well. Even Wikipedia touches on the subject and they tend to lean way liberal.

From the Oklahoma Historical Society.

https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry.php?entry=SL003

Damn I was born and raised in Stillwater, Okla. and never heard or read anything about any of that!!

Same. Didn't hear about the Tulsa riot until I was grown.

Just about every ethnic group had slaves and just about every ethnic group was a slave. What America did to Africans was neither new nor isolated. We were also not the only ones involved, at the time. Aside from the fact that nobody living had a thing to do with it, it was worldwide. Oh, and it still happens, across the world. These little inconvenient facts just don’t fit the mainstream narrative.

Oh yeah? Do tell!

Correct me if I am wrong, Indian owned slaves were not freed nor awarded US citizenship by the 14th Amendment.

I heard about it in about 1959, a lady that lived across the street from uncle and aunt, she was born and raised in Tulsa. She was born in 1897, she had some great history stories. Her parents were in the Oklahoma Land Rush. .

There are more slaves right now in the world than ever before.

Of course most held by Muslims, so you don’t hear about it in the liberal media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_slave_ownership

Part of the program, at least for the Choctaw, was that the slaves had to become members of the Choctaw tribe and were registered with the BIA as such. Little known facts doesn’t make them untrue.

Apart from the Black Slaves you already know about now they also had slaves from other tribes and later had white slaves as well. We can safely say they were enslaving others long before Europeans set foot on North America.

Why do you think they abducted women and children? For pets?

I knew about the the slaves from other tribes for sure. very common.

I’m gonna watch it

Yes, actually we did.

I got that now. always good to learn something new. just like they didn't teach us about the massacre, they probably didn't teach that either.

Sherman experienced a similar situation and the Grayson County Courthouse was burned to the ground. Even Frank Hamer couldn't stand that mob off though he tried.

Interesting and somewhat ironic about our Native American Indians. Lets see they were driven out of their own homelands and forced to stay on reservations which basically made them prisoners to that area,
yet they were able to have slaves?

The only folks that might be owed anything from our government is the Native American Indian and White males that have been discriminated against in any type of business simply because they are White males!

There wouldn't of been a Tulsa massacre if this hadn't happened.Dick Rowland, a Black shoeshiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, the 17-year-old White elevator operator of the nearby Drexel Building.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

this doesn't make anything about it better. None at all. If not that, likely something else would have caused this hatred to boil over. there is no excuse there. None at all.

it's a stain on my hometown. Tulsa was a great place to grow up.

Biden will get it all figured out for you. He is visiting Tulsa today.

It’s all about the reparations!.....drops mic., walks out......

pic that mic back up because its all about sowing division in the country. side note , we have been paying reparations since the 50s if not longer. .

not much has changed. sucker punches 12 year old kid.





looks like you tube got wind of it and is putting it on the back burner

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...souri-sidewalk-sentenced-7-years-prison/



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Grew up in Claremore Ok. east of Tulsa, only heard story's in the 60's and 70's it was interesting but even then it was 2nd and 3rd hand story's

its all a head fake. America is home to more black wealthy millionaires and billionaires that any place on the planet. even the average joe is wealthier per capita in America than any other place on earth.

Rhetorical question. Did any of you see Bidens news conference?

I thought the lefties were all about erasing history?

Here it is....justification for the brutal actions. Stupid.

What’s stupid is believing the ever-changing liberal narrative.

Folks on both sides died, so it wasn’t a “massacre” as the libs would have you believe.

Both sides were wrong to some degree. Another case of [censored] colliding.

But your welcome to lap up the liberal BS & believe whatever you want.

People were racist in the past, but it’s rare as hens teeth nowadays, unless you count blacks being racist towards whites.

The liberals & media drudged this up to keep our country divided on race.

Shove your white guilt BS up your [censored].

just erasing their history

People like Maximus give me hope.

There is also another side to the story,
https://tulsaworld.com/tulsa-race-m...7810913-0f34-58da-af38-f6a9ff8ea5e0.html

and https://www.centerforpublicsecrets....and-and-the-tulsa-race-massacre-part-two

Me too, I just wish he would not ignore facts. This just does not work, "Folks on both sides died, so it wasn’t a “massacre” as the libs would have you believe."

Hell Yeah!

Some of my ancestors as well lots of other peoples were Cherokee and forced to live on reservations in Oklahoma. I don't feel like the government owes me any reparations because of it!!

Nailed. It. The truth has been said.

No doubt about owning slaves but a lot of other tribes took prisoners and made them into slaves- some taken down to Mexico and sold. The last place slavery was abolished was with the Tribes. On the Tulsa thing- I watched the show on TV. It starts out that the black section of town was filled with well educated, prosperous blacks and the whites were all jealous of them. Then the accused was entering the elevator and accidentally "slipped" and fell against the White girl. For all you younger folks- at the time, right or wrong, blacks couldn't stay in white hotels. On the "slipping" I have gone in and out a lot of elevators and never seen anyone slip.; so, right off the start i didn't buy that. Next, the TV show says all these Black WWI veterans showed up to spring the guy out of jail- and the TV show has a photo of these blacks in WWI uniforms and 1903 Springfield rifles. WHO GETS TO KEEP THEIR RIFLE???? So I didn't buy that either and ended up watching something else. Fake News??? Seems like it to me. Why can't they just tell the truth, a lot of blacks
who had nothing to do with the incident wrongly suffered, without all the other non-sense.

The Bible talks about the "yeast of the Pharisee"- beware of it. The news media yaks about being liberal, etc. etc. but they stir up trouble, get everyone hating each other. That means they are BAD GUYS. There is no one around today that had anything to do with what happened 100 years ago. Leave folks alone and they tend to get along with each other.

Chances are they got these rifles out of the local armory. Plenty of examples of when people did this all in the post WW1 time thru WW2 and even beyond....doesn't make it right, but it seems it wasn't too out of place for war vets to go to the local armory and take weapons to a fight.

I remember a mini-documentary on here about some Texas (?) county/city that had some election fraud going on and the local boys went to the local armory and got their weapons for the fight. I believe most on here felt that was a justified use of force. Imagine a white guy wrongfully imprisoned because he "slipped" and touched a black girl. Not sure that would warrant a bunch of white protesters coming to the jail with weapons, but sometimes putting the shoe on can create a little perspective. Who knows. I don't know much at all about this issue, but to blow it off as fake news because you didn't like it seems a little juvenile. You weren't there. It had nothing to do with you, so what if the story is embellished a little. Pretty much every revision of history is embellished some.

https://tulsaworld.com/tulsa-race-m...7810913-0f34-58da-af38-f6a9ff8ea5e0.html

doesnt make any sense . time were so bad , blacks hated so much , that the young guy walks in and catches a main elevator to the top floor. Some thing happened and it was likely some thing very similar to what we have today. A political party paying for major riots..... Seems like the lying media pushed a lot of this as they do today. Reads like the same old play book they forced on us a year ago with major riots. Infact they are using their event in history to create more race riots.




http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1921.html

in 1921, we know what politcal party created the KKK

Or maybe the guy and girl were just attracted to each other and caught in the elevator together and the guy gets areested because it was against rhe law (in OK) at the time for a black man to be in an all white establishment. Being from kansas city, the young girl doesn’t know this and is the root of the whole problem.

It is easy to see how a simple misunderstanding got blown out of proportion....but i am making that all up too. We will never know the answer as history will never tell the whole truth, it only tells the story people want it to tell.

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The guy was a shoeshine boy in that building and the only restroom he was allowed to use was on the top floor.Nobody actually knows what happened in the elevator but the girl said he grabbed her arm.Police questioned her several times and tried to get her to press charges but she said no.Rumors were going around that they knew each other "quite well" and the business men who's shoes he shined seemed to know him well and they said RAPE ?,no way he tried it.
That is in the police report from what I saw and I wish they would just let it die and be gone as it's long past history.The news industry is this countries biggest enemy to keep stirring the pot.

You’re in luck if you have your Cherokee card. The nation is sending out $2000 per head for Covid relief. My squaw and pups are waiting for some relief.

wow

Same here. Some of mine died on the Trail of Tears also.

Nobody owes me anything.

I'm a card carrying member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. I can trace my family back to Alabama and we were the first to walk the Trail (Andrew Jackson is burning in hell). I earn my own way just as my family has for generations. My grandmother was subjected to overt racism yet it didn't stop her from achieving every goal she set for herself. People need to stop using race and the past as a crutch.

My moms side traces back to John Ross and the trail of tears. My grandma and her brother had to choose Cherokee or Creek for some reason. They are the last on the rolls. No one ever asked for anything.

Fishing buddy of mine still carries the Ross last name and is related. Cool deal

Amen brother. My Grandpa got called half breed his whole life growing up, and got into plenty of fights over it...but he served our Nation and carried the philosophy that if you want something in this life you’ve got to earn it.

My Dad's first wife was full blooded Cherokee but as a young boy I only knew my Mom.Dad would sometimes visit with indians that lived not too far from us and it seemed funny that he talked to them in their language.I wish I had gotten to know my Dad a lot more before he passed away.

Sherman, TX is next. Big article about the 1930 “lynching” and courthouse fire today in the Washington Post. I can’t get the link to work from my phone. The lady spearheading it is from Tom Bean, and I think she was my “neighbor” growing up. If so, she was a different duck back then, too.

SRPI89,is this it ?.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_George_Hughes

Mobs are cowards.

Sherman riot

Yes, that's it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/06/03/sherman-riot-texas-lynching-marker/

Try this link.

it looks like in the 20's being put to death by hanging or electrocution was a normal thing no matter the color. The ironic parts is there is still slavery, and lynchings today that folks can actually make a difference by doing something. Yet , payment for something none of us alive lived through is the big American topic (lie)great cover for a "crazy" election and a "pandemic" fail. Its the great lie of our lifetimes , we're mad when one cracker touches us but we kill millions of our own. America was of the leaders to stop slavery of blacks, even though there is slavery today of all races. It was the great hoax of the century to fleece Americans of trillions of dollars. Black folks chained up their own and sold to the slave trade. Marget Sanger didnt use guns to go into the blacks neighborhoods , the black leaders invited her and worked with her to exterminate their own. Just as today the black leaders would through their own into the fire to keep the lie alive for themselves. and the wheel goes round and round....

Just saw on TV that 5 more coffins were found yesterday.

Well a lot of unknowns. First, I do have sympathy for the minority person. If a white person gets arrested the rest of the whites don't care because they are the majority and aren't a target, so.... not to sound like a liberal but I can sort of understand a propensity for minorities to have the back of a fellow member of whatever minority is at issue. Then the other thing is a rush to judgement, the girl a "sweet innocent" when maybe she was nothing but trouble. My complaint was a lot of new programs come up with this ridiculous nonsense that the black part of Tulsa consisted of well educated, affluent blacks and the "white trash" were jealous of them. Never say never, but sort of ridiculous. Isn't it enough that a lot of innocent bystanders that had nothing to do with the problem had their part of town burned down?
And...a hundred years ago. I'd really like to just bury the past- it just gets everyone upset. There is nothing anyone of us today can do about it. Best to just move on.