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Anyone do any over landing?

Posted By: KRoyal

Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 02:41 AM

Been watching a bunch of YouTube videos of overland setups. This seems like it would be a great time with my wife and young son. Thinking of putting together a setup similar to the one below. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with doing this type of thing and has any tips tricks. Things to buy, things not to buy.

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Posted By: ducknbass

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 02:46 AM

I do a lot of camping. That setup seems odd to me as s family camping set up. Maybe I no savi over landing. But we camp pretty comfortably in a tent. That right there would be tight. Every time you have to go to store or go site seeing tent goes up. Just doesn't calculate in my head.
Posted By: Brother in-law

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 02:47 AM

GA
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 02:47 AM

you got too much "spare" $$.

You already have your son's college tuition saved up, now start working on your retirement.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by ducknbass
I do a lot of camping. That setup seems odd to me as s family camping set up. Maybe I no savi over landing. But we camp pretty comfortably in a tent. That right there would be tight. Every time you have to go to store or go site seeing tent goes up. Just doesn't calculate in my head.

Over landing is pretty much going exploring off-road in a truck or whatever you have, and when you’re done for the day stop and throw up camp. In the morning put tent down and get back on the trail. You’re not camping in same place multiple nights. The tents, although expensive, are purposefully built. Very easy to pitch and take down, around 5-10 minutes. They have built in mattresses and the base slides out on the sides. So pretty roomy it’s a 3 person tent.

Here is a link to the tent I’m looking at.

https://www.roamadventureco.com/products/the-vagabond?variant=34718357520550
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
you got too much "spare" $$.

You already have your son's college tuition saved up, now start working on your retirement.

I’m good on both accounts sir, just looking for a fun way to spend family time.
Posted By: Greg

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:05 AM

My buddy you met at the 22match has a pretty nice setup. He built a trailer to pull behind his Jeep and then he stores all his gear on the trailer. When our families go out camping I’m always wishing I had one.
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Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Greg
My buddy you met at the 22match has a pretty nice setup. He built a trailer to pull behind his Jeep and then he stores all his gear on the trailer. When our families go out camping I’m always wishing I had one.
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I’ve seen some of the trailer setups. With my truck I’d be able to carry all my gear in the bed under a retrax cover and attached to the rack. I think it would be a great time. How many does he sleep in that tent?
Posted By: HoneyBeez

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:08 AM

Kyle, look at the set ups they fish PINS with. Granted you do not need rod holders but they have some badass rigs.
Posted By: Greg

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:15 AM

When the kids were little he would sleep his whole family up there (4). 3 adults would fit no problem. The jeeps don’t have room for squat
Posted By: cbump

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by ducknbass
I do a lot of camping. That setup seems odd to me as s family camping set up. Maybe I no savi over landing. But we camp pretty comfortably in a tent. That right there would be tight. Every time you have to go to store or go site seeing tent goes up. Just doesn't calculate in my head.



Same. We have family camped with my kids since they were little. This setup just seems like something to spend a lot of money on and to look cool. Not really practical.
A backpacking tent of the same size would take the same or less time to setup, cost way less, and you wouldn't have to climb down a ladder to go pee. Be good for rough ground though and the built in mattress sounds nice.
Posted By: cbump

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by Greg
My buddy you met at the 22match has a pretty nice setup. He built a trailer to pull behind his Jeep and then he stores all his gear on the trailer. When our families go out camping I’m always wishing I had one.
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Beautiful V.
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:21 AM

I do. Having a RTT on top of the vehicle sucks. Only way I'd do it is in a trailer. I built an off road trailer like the one posted above & planned on putting a tent on it but have been very happy w/my Kodiak canvas. After sleeping in a friends RTT I decided they suck. They flap in the wind, shake around in the wind, the pads are too thin, it sucks having to piss in the middle of the night, have to close it back up to go hit a trail or run to the store, not tall enough & the list goes on.
I'm glad I stuck w/my 10x14 canvas tent. It takes about the same time to set up but has a ton of benefits over the RTT.
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:29 AM

I've done alot of camping and 4wheeling that could be called overlanding and now basically do the same with a motorcycle. At one point I wanted a RTT and have been with friends who have them.

What I've learned is the RTT is great for not needing to find a flat, smooth spot for a ground tent. Other than that, meh. I can set my tent up and take it down way faster that a RTT. RTTs also have very bad moisture problems, hence why condensation mats are a thing. My sister and BIL recently got one and on the morning after their first night they were drying bedding over a fire because everything in the tent was soaked. RTTs are also very noisy in the wind. If mounted above the cab you are dragging and windblock down the road. And they are 2-3x the cost of a extremely good ground tent.

That said, the people I know that have them, do like them. I just know after seeing them in action, I prefer a ground tent.

Overlanding is chock full of people who want to spend alot of money on fancy glamping gear and 4x4 vehicles so they can go-pro themselves "offroading" down a nice gravel road.
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:33 AM

And don't get me started on the freaking traction boards hanging on the side. People have winches, maxtrax, shovels, and all this stuff and think a 6" ledge on a trail needs 3 spotters and 6 different gopro angles because it's such hardcore wheeling.

You also need a skottle to cook on and collect patches and badges to detail all the money you have spent on your trail tampon
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:34 AM

I’m not telling you to look at a Tacoma or anything, but tacomaworld.com has a lot of threads on this type of thing. Might be worth checking out. My wife any I decided against the RTT for both cost and because it’s my daily driver. We have a camper shell, though, and it’s good for some things and not good for others, but I like it. We spent 10 days in New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and Colorado camping and driving and had a great time, although it wasn’t all over landing. If I had a different situation in life (more time and money) I’d be more in to it.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin


Overlanding is chock full of people who want to spend alot of money on fancy glamping gear and 4x4 vehicles so they can go-pro themselves "offroading" down a nice gravel road.



Lmao.....sounds about like most people’s hobbies these days. More about posting about it on Instagram and YouTube than doing it for the shear joy of it
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
And don't get me started on the freaking traction boards hanging on the side. People have winches, maxtrax, shovels, and all this stuff and think a 6" ledge on a trail needs 3 spotters and 6 different gopro angles because it's such hardcore wheeling.

You also need a skottle to cook on and collect patches and badges to detail all the money you have spent on your trail tampon

Lol damn man, I just wanted to get out and camp with my family.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
I’m not telling you to look at a Tacoma or anything, but tacomaworld.com has a lot of threads on this type of thing. Might be worth checking out. My wife any I decided against the RTT for both cost and because it’s my daily driver. We have a camper shell, though, and it’s good for some things and not good for others, but I like it. We spent 10 days in New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and Colorado camping and driving and had a great time, although it wasn’t all over landing. If I had a different situation in life (more time and money) I’d be more in to it.

Thanks! I’ve seen several of the Tacoma builds.
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
And don't get me started on the freaking traction boards hanging on the side. People have winches, maxtrax, shovels, and all this stuff and think a 6" ledge on a trail needs 3 spotters and 6 different gopro angles because it's such hardcore wheeling.

You also need a skottle to cook on and collect patches and badges to detail all the money you have spent on your trail tampon


This is true. There is a lot of douchey-ness in the overlanding world.
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by z71dustin
And don't get me started on the freaking traction boards hanging on the side. People have winches, maxtrax, shovels, and all this stuff and think a 6" ledge on a trail needs 3 spotters and 6 different gopro angles because it's such hardcore wheeling.

You also need a skottle to cook on and collect patches and badges to detail all the money you have spent on your trail tampon

Lol damn man, I just wanted to get out and camp with my family.


Haha, I can get on a soapbox about it because I've been around them.

The idea of overlanding is awesome though. Get out on lesser traveled roads and camp. It's just the social media aspect and gotta "do it for the gram" that irritates me. Just do it for you and your family, not to get followers on instagram
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by LFD2037
I do. Having a RTT on top of the vehicle sucks. Only way I'd do it is in a trailer. I built an off road trailer like the one posted above & planned on putting a tent on it but have been very happy w/my Kodiak canvas. After sleeping in a friends RTT I decided they suck. They flap in the wind, shake around in the wind, the pads are too thin, it sucks having to piss in the middle of the night, have to close it back up to go hit a trail or run to the store, not tall enough & the list goes on.
I'm glad I stuck w/my 10x14 canvas tent. It takes about the same time to set up but has a ton of benefits over the RTT.



Originally Posted by z71dustin
I've done alot of camping and 4wheeling that could be called overlanding and now basically do the same with a motorcycle. At one point I wanted a RTT and have been with friends who have them.

What I've learned is the RTT is great for not needing to find a flat, smooth spot for a ground tent. Other than that, meh. I can set my tent up and take it down way faster that a RTT. RTTs also have very bad moisture problems, hence why condensation mats are a thing. My sister and BIL recently got one and on the morning after their first night they were drying bedding over a fire because everything in the tent was soaked. RTTs are also very noisy in the wind. If mounted above the cab you are dragging and windblock down the road. And they are 2-3x the cost of a extremely good ground tent.

That said, the people I know that have them, do like them. I just know after seeing them in action, I prefer a ground tent.

Overlanding is chock full of people who want to spend alot of money on fancy glamping gear and 4x4 vehicles so they can go-pro themselves "offroading" down a nice gravel road.

Thanks this is the stuff I’m looking for as far has what gear to get or pass on. I don’t mind doing a ground tent and would be much much cheaper. Just kind of liked the idea of being up off the ground. My wife isn’t a huge outdoors type lol sleeping with snakes isn’t her thing.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by z71dustin
And don't get me started on the freaking traction boards hanging on the side. People have winches, maxtrax, shovels, and all this stuff and think a 6" ledge on a trail needs 3 spotters and 6 different gopro angles because it's such hardcore wheeling.

You also need a skottle to cook on and collect patches and badges to detail all the money you have spent on your trail tampon

Lol damn man, I just wanted to get out and camp with my family.


Haha, I can get on a soapbox about it because I've been around them.

The idea of overlanding is awesome though. Get out on lesser traveled roads and camp. It's just the social media aspect and gotta "do it for the gram" that irritates me. Just do it for you and your family, not to get followers on instagram

Yea totally agree on that.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:46 AM

I was getting my truck ready to take some small Overland trips but I don't have anybody to go with so I gave up on the idea. This is what I was looking at but it would get cramped with over two people in it.

https://cascadiatents.com/black%20series.html
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:47 AM

Do you have any camping gear currently?

Camping is one of my favorite things and I've been through alot of different setups through the years tuning my setup to fit my needs so have some insight.

I would recommend decent but not all out on gear until you know its something yall are going to enjoy doing. Certain gear you can go cheaper on than others.

You'd hate to drop $2k on a RTT and use it for one trip
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
Do you have any camping gear currently?

Camping is one of my favorite things and I've been through alot of different setups through the years tuning my setup to fit my needs so have some insight.

I would recommend decent but not all out on gear until you know its something yall are going to enjoy doing. Certain gear you can go cheaper on than others.

You'd hate to drop $2k on a RTT and use it for one trip

Only camping I used to do before my son was born was hiking/wilderness camping. A couple buddies and myself would hike in 5-10 miles carrying everything with us that we needed. So most my stuff is all backpacking ultralight stuff like jet stove titanium pot/cup/flatware. One man ultralight tent. All the essentials type stuff. Hatchet, saw, fire starting stuff, water bottles and camel backs, water filters. On and on but again totally different type of camping, more so backpacking.
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:56 AM

This was my Tacoma setup. The rack was bought for a RTT initially until I thought better of it but was really nice for the kayak and rods. Water hauled in the white cans for cooking, shower, cleaning dishes. Totes contained dry food, camping gear, cooking supplies.

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And my current setup. I've had to shrink everything now into backpacking gear. To fit cooking setup, food, water, and all my camping gear on the bike I have to be alot more selective in loadout.

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Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by z71dustin
Do you have any camping gear currently?

Camping is one of my favorite things and I've been through alot of different setups through the years tuning my setup to fit my needs so have some insight.

I would recommend decent but not all out on gear until you know its something yall are going to enjoy doing. Certain gear you can go cheaper on than others.

You'd hate to drop $2k on a RTT and use it for one trip

Only camping I used to do before my son was born was hiking/wilderness camping. A couple buddies and myself would hike in 5-10 miles carrying everything with us that we needed. So most my stuff is all backpacking ultralight stuff like jet stove titanium pot/cup/flatware. One man ultralight tent. All the essentials type stuff. Hatchet, saw, fire starting stuff, water bottles and camel backs, water filters. On and on but again totally different type of camping, more so backpacking.


The advantage to car camping is stuff is cheaper for nice stuff due to not caring about pack size or weight.

I'd get a decent ground tent, buy good sleeping pad and bags/quilts. You have room in the truck so don't need ultralight down bags so a nice comfortable bag can be had fairly cheap. I have a 0 degree northface bag that is super warm and comfy but huge so it was around $100 from Academy. I have a Thermarest MondoKing xxl pad that is ridiculously comfortable and warm for a pad (4" thick, r value over 11) but doesn't pack up small. I've slept on the snow before and the other people in the tent were cold until they tried my sleeping pad and were shocked at how much warmer it was than theirs. R value is super important if winter camping.

A good dual burner camp stove is one of the only other things you need. You can get some cheaper cookware so you don't have to bring nice stuff from home or use cast iron but cast iron of course is heavy. That doesn't matter as much if you are truck camping though. I always liked doing stuff like tacos or hamburger helper style meals for easy camping meals.

Also nice to have is a folding table of some kind for cooking on. I've got one that rolls up into a bag like a camp chair. Maybe a popup, ezup style canopy in case it rains and you want a place to hangout and cook. It sucks when it's raining and you only can get in the tent to get out of it

A shower is going to be the thing that could be important depending on you and your family. I'm a person who can go awhile without showering while camping or hunting but know I'm not normal in that aspect lol. I'm not sure of the brand, I can get it if you want, but my friends have a hot water shower setup that recirculates water from a bucket to provide running hot water for showers. They then have a little popup shower for privacy. I have a shower that looks like a 3 gallon handheld pesticide sprayer but it is a shower that you fill with water and put on a stove to heat water. Then pump the handle and you have pressurized water to shower with.

Posted By: Blank

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:08 AM

Take a look at the Hunting Vehicles thread for the Tundra camping build. There are so many ways to go, and things to do. Just kinda decide ahead of time what your budget is, and how you and the better half want to enjoy your time out there. The smaller inexpensive travel trailers make a really good option also!

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The sky's the limit for how much you want to spend to trick out your truck!!!

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Posted By: Greg

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin

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What a view
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by Greg
Originally Posted by z71dustin

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What a view


It was probably the best view I've ever had at a campsite. That's the cool part of the overlanding thing. I didn't need 4wd to get there but you wouldn't be dragging a camper to some of the places I camp and enjoy it.

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Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
I’m not telling you to look at a Tacoma or anything, but tacomaworld.com has a lot of threads on this type of thing. Might be worth checking out. My wife any I decided against the RTT for both cost and because it’s my daily driver. We have a camper shell, though, and it’s good for some things and not good for others, but I like it. We spent 10 days in New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and Colorado camping and driving and had a great time, although it wasn’t all over landing. If I had a different situation in life (more time and money) I’d be more in to it.

I had one of the more built rigs on Tacoma World but sold it & now I'm in a Tundra. I'm not going to go as crazy w/it as I did the Taco but on my Tundra I've done a 3" lift, 35's, wheels, ARB Summit front bumper, winch, lights, rock rails & a few other little things. Trying to keep this one sane. Well, a little more sane!
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by z71dustin
Do you have any camping gear currently?

Camping is one of my favorite things and I've been through alot of different setups through the years tuning my setup to fit my needs so have some insight.

I would recommend decent but not all out on gear until you know its something yall are going to enjoy doing. Certain gear you can go cheaper on than others.

You'd hate to drop $2k on a RTT and use it for one trip

Only camping I used to do before my son was born was hiking/wilderness camping. A couple buddies and myself would hike in 5-10 miles carrying everything with us that we needed. So most my stuff is all backpacking ultralight stuff like jet stove titanium pot/cup/flatware. One man ultralight tent. All the essentials type stuff. Hatchet, saw, fire starting stuff, water bottles and camel backs, water filters. On and on but again totally different type of camping, more so backpacking.


The advantage to car camping is stuff is cheaper for nice stuff due to not caring about pack size or weight.

I'd get a decent ground tent, buy good sleeping pad and bags/quilts. You have room in the truck so don't need ultralight down bags so a nice comfortable bag can be had fairly cheap. I have a 0 degree northface bag that is super warm and comfy but huge so it was around $100 from Academy. I have a Thermarest MondoKing xxl pad that is ridiculously comfortable and warm for a pad (4" thick, r value over 11) but doesn't pack up small. I've slept on the snow before and the other people in the tent were cold until they tried my sleeping pad and were shocked at how much warmer it was than theirs. R value is super important if winter camping.

A good dual burner camp stove is one of the only other things you need. You can get some cheaper cookware so you don't have to bring nice stuff from home or use cast iron but cast iron of course is heavy. That doesn't matter as much if you are truck camping though. I always liked doing stuff like tacos or hamburger helper style meals for easy camping meals.

Also nice to have is a folding table of some kind for cooking on. I've got one that rolls up into a bag like a camp chair. Maybe a popup, ezup style canopy in case it rains and you want a place to hangout and cook. It sucks when it's raining and you only can get in the tent to get out of it

A shower is going to be the thing that could be important depending on you and your family. I'm a person who can go awhile without showering while camping or hunting but know I'm not normal in that aspect lol. I'm not sure of the brand, I can get it if you want, but my friends have a hot water shower setup that recirculates water from a bucket to provide running hot water for showers. They then have a little popup shower for privacy. I have a shower that looks like a 3 gallon handheld pesticide sprayer but it is a shower that you fill with water and put on a stove to heat water. Then pump the handle and you have pressurized water to shower with.


Thanks for the info.

Yea will probably need a shower. I would probably be fine without, but doubt my wife would be lol.

Lots of cool builds keep the info coming.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:50 AM

I’m planning on a new cage for the RZR later this year or early next year. It will have a roof rack for packing gear. I plan on doing some short trips with my kid (wife won’t tent camp anymore). It won’t necessarily be “over landing” in the since that it won’t be self sustaining or off grid for lengthy amounts of time. But I think taking some trails during the day and setting up a place to camp away from people would be a good time.
Posted By: cbump

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
Originally Posted by Greg
Originally Posted by z71dustin

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What a view


It was probably the best view I've ever had at a campsite. That's the cool part of the overlanding thing. I didn't need 4wd to get there but you wouldn't be dragging a camper to some of the places I camp and enjoy it.

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Where were these places?
Posted By: thegrouse

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 06:10 AM

I have done quite a bit of it. I do not recommend a roof top tent. I have about 6 tents but my favorite are the REI Base Camp 6 and the Kodiak Canvas 10x14. The key is efficiency if you plan on moving every night. I have an efficient cooking system and a small cargo trailer I tow. This allows me to drop the rig and go explore. Instead of an awning I pack a lightweight tarp, pole, guy lines and stakes. I can set up a quick awning for lunch on the road. The game changer for me was the ARB 50l fridge. This allows me to keep all my food cold without dealing with ice. I can hit the grocery store and buy warm beer, put it inside and it will be cold in a few hours. There is some beautiful places to go explore, I wouldn't spend a ton of money just yet, go out and camp at a Big Bend backcountry site and see how you like it.
Posted By: Wytex

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 02:46 PM

A roof top tent wouldn't last up here, the wind would have you chasing it all over the plains.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
This was my Tacoma setup. The rack was bought for a RTT initially until I thought better of it but was really nice for the kayak and rods. Water hauled in the white cans for cooking, shower, cleaning dishes. Totes contained dry food, camping gear, cooking supplies.

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And my current setup. I've had to shrink everything now into backpacking gear. To fit cooking setup, food, water, and all my camping gear on the bike I have to be alot more selective in loadout.

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What’s the pole for, WiFi?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:11 PM

Looks like a solar charger. Guessing that is a camp site and he doesn't carry that around on his bike LOL.
Posted By: ZK-315

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by BigPig
I’m planning on a new cage for the RZR later this year or early next year. It will have a roof rack for packing gear. I plan on doing some short trips with my kid (wife won’t tent camp anymore). It won’t necessarily be “over landing” in the since that it won’t be self sustaining or off grid for lengthy amounts of time. But I think taking some trails during the day and setting up a place to camp away from people would be a good time.

When you go, post up about where you go and your thoughts on it. I had originally planned to do this exact thing in our Canam Defender this summer somewhere up around Colorado, but my almost-3 year old isn't quite ready for it. The almost-5 year old would absolutely love it, plus the wife was pretty excited when we started talking about it.
Posted By: SherpaPhil

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 04:35 PM

I've recently gotten into family camping with my 2 and 4 year olds after taking a couple years off when they were really little. I also do a couple trips a year hunting. I have found we are most comfortable in a big ground tent with a ridiculously comfortable pad for the wife and I. We currently use an Exped MegaMat Duo and love it. I have a topper on my ZR2 Bison with a rack on top. I have no problem loading a ton of stuff in and on the truck for extended travel and wouldn't want to give up all of the extra storage space you get with a topper. My big tent is a 12x12 Cabela's Alaknak. Its great, but takes too long to set up for one night stays. When we are actually overlanding, I use a Cabela's Alaskan Guide dome tent that I can set up nearly as fast as a RTT. We are much more comfortable with a little space to spread out and not dealing with getting the kids up and down a ladder. We shamelessly go full glamping - down comforters, feather pillows, heater, etc. Once I had kids, I realized that being uncomfortable for the sake of roughing it doesn't make camping more fun. I run white gas for all of my equipment, stove, lanterns, etc. I like that I don't have to deal with propane bottles, guess how full they are, deal with half full bottles after a trip, etc. The white gas is also a whole lot better if you plan any trips at high altitude or in real cold.

We camp a lot with my sister and her family. My brother-in-law has a RTT on a trailer he pulls behind his truck. Its a nice setup in that he can drop the trailer and still use the truck to explore a trail or something. I don't think I would like a tent on top of my truck because of that. The downside to the trailer is that its a pain when you are on the trail. He is often afraid of heading down some trail because he doesn't know if he can turn around at the other end. The tent is comfortable and the tent itself sets up quick, but he needs to mess with the trailer, put out stabilizers, etc. Start to finish, its not as quick as you think it will be. Never had condensation issues with the tent, but I have only used it in pretty dry places. He uses propane for everything and carries the 20 lb tanks and runs lines/adapters for everything, which is also a nice setup.
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by z71dustin
This was my Tacoma setup. The rack was bought for a RTT initially until I thought better of it but was really nice for the kayak and rods. Water hauled in the white cans for cooking, shower, cleaning dishes. Totes contained dry food, camping gear, cooking supplies.

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And my current setup. I've had to shrink everything now into backpacking gear. To fit cooking setup, food, water, and all my camping gear on the bike I have to be alot more selective in loadout.

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What’s the pole for, WiFi?


I'm not sure what the pole was. It was next to some little box in a stream. Maybe measuring water flow?

I don't camp in campgrounds or established sites any more, I camp for free in national forests. That was at the end of a little path coming off the paved road in Manti-la Sal NF above Moab
Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by cbump
Originally Posted by z71dustin
Originally Posted by Greg
Originally Posted by z71dustin

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What a view


It was probably the best view I've ever had at a campsite. That's the cool part of the overlanding thing. I didn't need 4wd to get there but you wouldn't be dragging a camper to some of the places I camp and enjoy it.

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Where were these places?


Lake Powell and Manti-La Sal national forest in Utah
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
I've recently gotten into family camping with my 2 and 4 year olds after taking a couple years off when they were really little. I also do a couple trips a year hunting. I have found we are most comfortable in a big ground tent with a ridiculously comfortable pad for the wife and I. We currently use an Exped MegaMat Duo and love it. I have a topper on my ZR2 Bison with a rack on top. I have no problem loading a ton of stuff in and on the truck for extended travel and wouldn't want to give up all of the extra storage space you get with a topper. My big tent is a 12x12 Cabela's Alaknak. Its great, but takes too long to set up for one night stays. When we are actually overlanding, I use a Cabela's Alaskan Guide dome tent that I can set up nearly as fast as a RTT. We are much more comfortable with a little space to spread out and not dealing with getting the kids up and down a ladder. We shamelessly go full glamping - down comforters, feather pillows, heater, etc. Once I had kids, I realized that being uncomfortable for the sake of roughing it doesn't make camping more fun. I run white gas for all of my equipment, stove, lanterns, etc. I like that I don't have to deal with propane bottles, guess how full they are, deal with half full bottles after a trip, etc. The white gas is also a whole lot better if you plan any trips at high altitude or in real cold.

We camp a lot with my sister and her family. My brother-in-law has a RTT on a trailer he pulls behind his truck. Its a nice setup in that he can drop the trailer and still use the truck to explore a trail or something. I don't think I would like a tent on top of my truck because of that. The downside to the trailer is that its a pain when you are on the trail. He is often afraid of heading down some trail because he doesn't know if he can turn around at the other end. The tent is comfortable and the tent itself sets up quick, but he needs to mess with the trailer, put out stabilizers, etc. Start to finish, its not as quick as you think it will be. Never had condensation issues with the tent, but I have only used it in pretty dry places. He uses propane for everything and carries the 20 lb tanks and runs lines/adapters for everything, which is also a nice setup.



Dead on. We use good sleeping bags not Not down. But wife and kids don't enjoy being uncomfortable.

We spend a week almost every summer in the mountains of colorado and have done so through pregnancies and infiants. My kids do not enjoy site seeing. You're son may enjoy overlanding but most kids don't like sitting in a truck. My kids would rather collect pine cones splash in the water and act like kids. When that boy gets older y'all could probably snatch a couple fishing poles and hit the road and be good. For now it's rare to.fimd a kid that would enjoy it.
Posted By: MacDaddy21

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 10:40 PM

My tepui kukenam xl took 2 minutes to set up and about 5 minutes to pack up. Never had any serious flapping in 40-50mph gusts. Never any condensation issues. The pad it came with sucked alone, but paired with a 4" memory foam topper it was excellent. My ex wife and I slept up there with our dog with plenty of room to spare.

That being said, my seek outside Cimarron is my favorite shelter now. If I were doing it with a family, I'd get a larger seek outside tipi as a shelter. They have nests (liner with mosquito netting) that eliminates bugs, condensation, and provides a floor. I love the floorless setup though. Pretty sweet to roll over, unzip my bag and take a leak on the dirt.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/25/21 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by z71dustin
This was my Tacoma setup. The rack was bought for a RTT initially until I thought better of it but was really nice for the kayak and rods. Water hauled in the white cans for cooking, shower, cleaning dishes. Totes contained dry food, camping gear, cooking supplies.

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And my current setup. I've had to shrink everything now into backpacking gear. To fit cooking setup, food, water, and all my camping gear on the bike I have to be alot more selective in loadout.

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Did you spend the night on the side of 281 a week or so ago south of Blanco?
Posted By: TGT

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 12:22 AM

Just go old school........


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Posted By: z71dustin

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by txtrophy85
Did you spend the night on the side of 281 a week or so ago south of Blanco?


Nope, wasn't me.
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by thegrouse
I have done quite a bit of it. I do not recommend a roof top tent. I have about 6 tents but my favorite are the REI Base Camp 6 and the Kodiak Canvas 10x14. The key is efficiency if you plan on moving every night. I have an efficient cooking system and a small cargo trailer I tow. This allows me to drop the rig and go explore. Instead of an awning I pack a lightweight tarp, pole, guy lines and stakes. I can set up a quick awning for lunch on the road. The game changer for me was the ARB 50l fridge. This allows me to keep all my food cold without dealing with ice. I can hit the grocery store and buy warm beer, put it inside and it will be cold in a few hours. There is some beautiful places to go explore, I wouldn't spend a ton of money just yet, go out and camp at a Big Bend backcountry site and see how you like it.

My Kodiak Canvas deluxe 10x14 and my Dometic fridge are my favorite mods when off road camping as well!
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 01:13 AM

Friend's parents in high school had a Westphalia, that and a couple of tents and a bunch of us would head to the lake for the weekends.

Originally Posted by TGT
Just go old school........

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Posted By: scalebuster

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by LFD2037
I do. Having a RTT on top of the vehicle sucks. Only way I'd do it is in a trailer. I built an off road trailer like the one posted above & planned on putting a tent on it but have been very happy w/my Kodiak canvas. After sleeping in a friends RTT I decided they suck. They flap in the wind, shake around in the wind, the pads are too thin, it sucks having to piss in the middle of the night, have to close it back up to go hit a trail or run to the store, not tall enough & the list goes on.
I'm glad I stuck w/my 10x14 canvas tent. It takes about the same time to set up but has a ton of benefits over the RTT.



Originally Posted by z71dustin
I've done alot of camping and 4wheeling that could be called overlanding and now basically do the same with a motorcycle. At one point I wanted a RTT and have been with friends who have them.

What I've learned is the RTT is great for not needing to find a flat, smooth spot for a ground tent. Other than that, meh. I can set my tent up and take it down way faster that a RTT. RTTs also have very bad moisture problems, hence why condensation mats are a thing. My sister and BIL recently got one and on the morning after their first night they were drying bedding over a fire because everything in the tent was soaked. RTTs are also very noisy in the wind. If mounted above the cab you are dragging and windblock down the road. And they are 2-3x the cost of a extremely good ground tent.

That said, the people I know that have them, do like them. I just know after seeing them in action, I prefer a ground tent.

Overlanding is chock full of people who want to spend alot of money on fancy glamping gear and 4x4 vehicles so they can go-pro themselves "offroading" down a nice gravel road.

Thanks this is the stuff I’m looking for as far has what gear to get or pass on. I don’t mind doing a ground tent and would be much much cheaper. Just kind of liked the idea of being up off the ground. My wife isn’t a huge outdoors type lol sleeping with snakes isn’t her thing.


I have done a lot of tent camping. I have come to the conclusion that it sux. The only thing worse than tent camping in the rain is tent camping anytime with women!
Posted By: LFD2037

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by scalebuster
Originally Posted by KRoyal
Originally Posted by LFD2037
I do. Having a RTT on top of the vehicle sucks. Only way I'd do it is in a trailer. I built an off road trailer like the one posted above & planned on putting a tent on it but have been very happy w/my Kodiak canvas. After sleeping in a friends RTT I decided they suck. They flap in the wind, shake around in the wind, the pads are too thin, it sucks having to piss in the middle of the night, have to close it back up to go hit a trail or run to the store, not tall enough & the list goes on.
I'm glad I stuck w/my 10x14 canvas tent. It takes about the same time to set up but has a ton of benefits over the RTT.



Originally Posted by z71dustin
I've done alot of camping and 4wheeling that could be called overlanding and now basically do the same with a motorcycle. At one point I wanted a RTT and have been with friends who have them.

What I've learned is the RTT is great for not needing to find a flat, smooth spot for a ground tent. Other than that, meh. I can set my tent up and take it down way faster that a RTT. RTTs also have very bad moisture problems, hence why condensation mats are a thing. My sister and BIL recently got one and on the morning after their first night they were drying bedding over a fire because everything in the tent was soaked. RTTs are also very noisy in the wind. If mounted above the cab you are dragging and windblock down the road. And they are 2-3x the cost of a extremely good ground tent.

That said, the people I know that have them, do like them. I just know after seeing them in action, I prefer a ground tent.

Overlanding is chock full of people who want to spend alot of money on fancy glamping gear and 4x4 vehicles so they can go-pro themselves "offroading" down a nice gravel road.

Thanks this is the stuff I’m looking for as far has what gear to get or pass on. I don’t mind doing a ground tent and would be much much cheaper. Just kind of liked the idea of being up off the ground. My wife isn’t a huge outdoors type lol sleeping with snakes isn’t her thing.


I have done a lot of tent camping. I have come to the conclusion that it sux. The only thing worse than tent camping in the rain is tent camping anytime with women!

I have a travel trailer but still enjoy tent camping. Speaking of camping with women, I camped in a tent in Yellowstone with my wife and daughter for 7 days. That was an adventure with the possibility of bison and bears coming into camp. We all thoroughly enjoyed it!
Posted By: AAJ

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 01:55 AM

Dont fall for the money grabbing "overland" companies selling glamping stuff for major $$$.
Grab a few folding chairs for $10 each, simple dome tent, and prep some foil meals at home to toss on the fire.
Keep it simple and prep as much food at home as possible so you dont have cutting boards, dishes and all the other stuff that go along with cooking a full meal.
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 10:16 AM

If you're going in a full size, 4dr truck you have plenty of room for a Gazelle tent. Plenty of room, well built and just like in the videos set up in about two minutes. Mine would easily sleep a couple and a small child, maybe more. I go on a hunt every year that requires a tent and this is great. I've tried a lot of options and this works best for me. Air mattress's that inflate off of a 12volt pump work, but a folding cot is better for my situation. The ease of set up and take down is the big thing on this tent. If you've ever tried to set up a decent tent alone in the wind, or in the dark that's a big deal. I did a lot of backpacking, longest trip was four nights in the Weminuche. Small tent, roll up pad, sleeping bag and everything on my back. If I have a full size truck, I'm gonna have a tent plenty big and a bed I can look forward to.

You wanna see this tent, let me know. I'll let you set it up and take it down.
Posted By: 68A

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by scalebuster

I have done a lot of tent camping. I have come to the conclusion that it sux. The only thing worse than tent camping in the rain is tent camping anytime with women!
Posted By: glens

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by AAJ
Dont fall for the money grabbing "overland" companies selling glamping stuff for major $$$.
Grab a few folding chairs for $10 each, simple dome tent, and prep some foil meals at home to toss on the fire.
Keep it simple and prep as much food at home as possible so you dont have cutting boards, dishes and all the other stuff that go along with cooking a full meal.

That being said, what would you have wrapped up in a good to go setup. Big bucks?
Posted By: AAJ

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by glens
Originally Posted by AAJ
Dont fall for the money grabbing "overland" companies selling glamping stuff for major $$$.
Grab a few folding chairs for $10 each, simple dome tent, and prep some foil meals at home to toss on the fire.
Keep it simple and prep as much food at home as possible so you dont have cutting boards, dishes and all the other stuff that go along with cooking a full meal.

That being said, what would you have wrapped up in a good to go setup. Big bucks?

Max traxx boards, skottle, Sno Peak stuff, fancy stove, RTT, and things like that. Does the stuff work? It does but is it needed to take the family on a weekend camping trip? Probably not.
I will say 1 of the gimmikie things that has been very nice and not only for camping is a 12 volt fridge/freezer.
Posted By: Blue Moon

Re: Anyone do any over landing? - 01/26/21 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
...My wife isn’t a huge outdoors type lol sleeping with snakes isn’t her thing.

Along the journey I’ve managed to enjoy a fair amount of flying, sailing, and overland adventures. So far, besides North America, I’ve toured Australia, Asia, and Europe, mostly driving Toyota Land Cruisers.

Like most, I started with weekend trips in my youth in a cheap truck and sleeping bag. After dealing with hoodlums grabbing things from the truck bed and nasty weather, I built a used cargo van into a moto-hauler. It served me well for race weekends, hunting and fishing.

My advice is to start by figuring out what your dream is and chase it. Some want to see and experience the world, others want to rock crawl.

After you figure out your goal, plan for it first, then gear up for a successful adventure. Besides your budget, keep your partner’s comfort level in mind when gearing up.

Regarding family camping, I was told at one point in my life that the only member of the family I should plan to take hunting, fishing, or camping was the dog... If your wife isn’t really into the outdoors it’s unlikely she’s going to enjoy primitive camping, rooftop tent or not. You can always start by just plotting a course in your daily driver from one Airbnb to the next to see places on your bucket list and save the overland style camping for you and your friends that enjoy it.

My quiver is currently full of overland vehicles. I’m the original owner of my expedition ready FJ80 Toyota Land Cruiser, a nearly restored 2004 Suburban 4x4, and most recently a 2020 Sprinter Van that I’m building into a toy, tool and vintage Airstream hauler. I also have a sport touring bike that’s made the round trip between Texas to Canada a few times. After the Sprinter is built, I’ll likely decide what stays and what goes.

As much as I love camping and seeing other parts of the country, as a recent empty nester, I purchased a seasonal glacier lake campground to base out of in the summer months. The campsites are rented annually and in some cases by the same families for generations.

Seeing and experiencing everything on the bucket list is important but when it comes time to enjoying the free time you have each week, especially if you’re a city dweller, a permanent cabin or campsite within a couple of hours from home at a favorite location makes for a really nice lifestyle and family memories.

Enjoy~
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