Official Sports watching Post, no haters allowed

If you still watch SOME sports, you're safe here. We ALL know most members feelings on the THF about sports games/teams in general and this is GREAT!!!

BUT

I think it's still a free country (barely) and all adults should be able to CHOOSE what to do, watch, buy, etc. I'm also sure 99.9% of the THF Members support the National Anthem, HATE the Black National Anthem and the "movement". (me included)

BUT this is going to be for those who want to still watch sports without being called a communist, and whatever. We KNOW how yall feel, but don't post it HERE.

I wish the Moderators would manage this Thread and try to keep it Civil with no attacks.

Go Cowboys
Hookem Horns
GigEm Aggies
Roll Tide

What do you thing Heavyduty?

The American way.

So you want more exclusion? It’s a public forum people will post regardless of your demands. Here’s a free tip attack the positions of the person not the person. Have a nice day.

I'm going to give college a chance. Other than that, NHRA rules!

What about the Rangers baseball?

^ This, freedom to choose.

Good advice Payne ........why would criticizing bother you if you believe what you are doing is right?

Or is it your weakness that really bothers you?

I'll watch the PBR and NFR.

Bleeding hearts...........

Trying to restrict other people's opinions and freedom of speech doesn't seem very American to me. Kind of socialist actually. I've never said the NFL, NBA and MLB shouldn't be able to support the domestic terrorists that they are currently supporting, but I shouldn't be restricted in being able to criticize their behavior either. That's the American way.

These are the athletes I support

https://local12.com/news/local/foot...-thin-red-lines-flags-at-game-cincinnati

Football players suspended from team for carrying Thin Blue, Thin Red lines flags at game


MORROW, Ohio (WKRC) — Some local high school football players are finding that their support for first responders is coming at a huge cost.

The boys are now suspended from their team after not heeding a warning to leave the Thin Blue Line and Thin Red Line flags that represent fallen firefighters and police officers off the field.

When the Little Miami High School football team took the field Friday, Sept. 11, a couple of players carried alongside the American flag a Thin Blue Line and Thin Red Line flags.

“Were you trying to make some kind of a political statement here?” Local 12 asked Brady Williams, a senior cornerback.

“No,” he answered quickly. “Not at all. I was just doing it to honor the people that lost their lives 19 years ago.“

Williams was holding the Thin Blue Line flag as he rushed onto the field Friday. His father is a police officer, and he says he wanted to honor all the cops who lost their lives trying to save others on 9/11.

Jarad Bentley carried the Thin Red Line flag.

“I was all for it,” he said. “Because my dad is a firefighter, and if it had been him killed on 9/11, I would have wanted someone to do it for him.”



The problem is, the boys had asked the school permission prior to the game and they were denied and told if they defied the order, there would be consequences.

“Listen,” Williams said. “I don’t care what my consequences are. Ss long as my message gets across, I’ll be happy.”

Williams and Bentley heard from the athletic director Monday afternoon and received an indefinite suspension. Local 12 had spoken with the superintendent a few hours earlier.

“We can’t have students who decide to do something anyway after they’ve been told that they shouldn’t be doing it,” said Gregory Power.

Power says he saw the flags as symbols of a political point of view and didn’t want to set a precedent.

“We did not want to place ourselves in a circumstance where another family might want a different flag to come out of the tunnel, one that may be [one that] many other families may not agree with from a political perspective,” Power explained.

After Williams’ mother took to Facebook, Power says he is finding a lot of people don’t agree with his point of view and have sent hate emails and voicemails. Williams and his teammates may be finding the benefits of standing up for a cause outweigh the cost.

“I realize that this was more than just a football team; these guys are now my brothers.”

I don’t hate anyone......members included that watch this.....I’m extremely disappointed you are not strong enough to stop supporting this agenda......

Fair and accurate.

Where did I say I want to restrict other people's opinions???

Choise is simple You ether Support them in what they do or you don't, Can't have it both ways.

You sell that brand new Ford truck yet? Take the lead, Mark, show us just how strong you are.

Pathetic comparison Doc, much easier to cut off the head of the snake, there is no Ford advertisers if there is no NFL, much easier to accomplish this goal turning off the TV than selling my truck....

Good ole Buzz. Talk strongly about something, actions contradict it, and then wants a safe space from meanies.

Would be like going to another Vet because the one you used has a Biden sticker on his bumper.

I do not agree with them but I have way more respect for people like Lebron James who are spearheading the athletes BLM thing because he actually stands for something and won't back down. People who say they believe one thing but do something else, especially when they think it is what others around them want to hear, are weak sheep deserving of no respect.

As far as I am concerned the only NFL team i will watch is Dallas and they are not on very solid ground. That is just me.

Why just one team? Does it make you feel better about yourself if you say you only watch one team and not all of them?

That's like saying I do not smoke or support smoking and so will only have one cigarette a week.

My dad was one of the biggest cowboys fans when I was growing up. then they fired Jimmy and Hired Barry. That's all it took. In a family that were fully OSU cowboys, he just couldn't come to terms with it.

I have been a huge Dallas Cowboy fan all of my life. To be honest it Pains me that the NFL like most sports has gone down this path for I loved watching my Cowboys. The wife and I are in 100% agreement that No NFL will be watched in our house period.
I also instructed her to get rid of the NFL network and I do not care what other channels I may lose with that package. We have to be strong and send a message to the Networks, NFL and their advertisers that we will not and cannot tolerate their Anti American agenda!

I'm watching the Star's in the Stanley Cup Finals next week. So there. Go STARS!!

That is the same as saying, "All of congress are corrupt members of the swamp. Except my rep, he is good." Then you wring hands and gnash teeth when nothing changes. Because everyone thinks the same as you. Because who could have made a mistake and voted for a scumbag right?

Lebron only cares about himself, his brand and his legacy. Take that to the bank.

Vikings
SKOL

and he's a total idiot.

No safe spaces here, communist.

Commies

Anyone who would still give the NFL (or any other pro sport that has endorsed or donated to any of these communist causes) the time of a day is a loser. Plain and simple.

If you are not happy with those here, why not just start your own forum and only you can post. there?

Choosing football over America. I just can’t imagine having values that shallow.

Grown men chasing each other and carrying a ball is good! America is bad.

[censored] losers.

I believe it was Voltaire that said......"I May Disapprove of What You Say But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"

In the end we are All Americans here.

Hey, Buzz? If you ever need back-up defending your 1st amendment rights, just holler. I'll be there for ya'.

Lol

What about Trashcan Dan, the dude that likes to wad up the American flag and throw it in the trash. Is he an American too?

In these times if you're supporting the NFL, NBA, MLB or NASCAR, you are supporting BLM. Which means you are supporting Murderers, thugs, anarchists, rapists and Commies. Not my business if you do, but I would think it's in your best interest to just STFU.

LPGA for the win! None of those gals are kneeling.

To each his own on watching, but I've said this here before, I've been done with the NFL since Ray Lewis was named Defensive Player of the Year in 2000, and super bowl MVP just less than one year after he had been indicted for two counts of murder. Can take or leave all other professional sports, and I choose to leave.

As BigBob said, sticking with college sports for now, especially my Pokes, but even they are on thin ice...regardless of how much I enjoy the competition and pageantry of the teams, the institutions themselves are being run by a bunch of leftist academicians and fairness has left the building. For the first time in 30 years I did not donate to my alma mater this year, and won't until I see change - which will probably be never.

No I think he came here along with Beversnips.

No I think he came here along with Beversnipe's.

Wait a Viking fan and someone quoting Voltaire?

Even conservative Republicans are split...crazy

Oh I agree, I picked him just because he's a big name athlete that I think has been vocal about the BLM group. My point is at least he said this is what I think and wouldn't back down. That is more respectful, even if I disagree with him, than someone who changes what they say they believe whenever it is convenient.

Amazon, Home Depot, Facebook, Google, Apple, Target, Wal-Mart, Levi's, Gap, Nike, McDonalds, Wendy's, Coca-Cola, etc, etc, etc. All those companies are donating their money to the BLM movement. Just curious, you boycotting all those as well or are you gonna STFU too?

Apples and oranges. I'm at peace with my decisions.

There is a very big difference in DIRECTLY donating or supporting THE BLM organization vs donating to causes that support black communities and simply state that black lives matter (which everyone agrees that they do). Might check your list there on who has actually donated to what - it's a mix of both.

And no - I will not support any business or organization that has directly supported THE BLM - but your list is misleading.

That there 1st amendment goes both way, commies. We have a right to tell you about your inadequacies as an American.

Great point! Thank you for your perspective.

So why is everyone boycotting the NFL? I can't find where they donated to THE BLM organization....can someone post up a source where they did?

Everyone keeps saying that when I point it out.

The NFL didnt.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...nt-agree-donate-250m-black-lives-matter/

I never stated that the NFL has - however the NFL, MLB, NHL - you name it - pretty much everything with the exception of pro rodeo - has given their employees (players) a public platform to support groups like BLM. Pro sports are entertainment - when politics start getting injected into my entertainment - I'm done. Openly allowing your employees to disrespect the country on the clock? Done. Openly encouraging and allowing your employees to masquerade around with the names of rapists and violent criminals on their helmets and jerseys? Done. Openly allow for your employees to put crap like ACAB on their helmets? Done. Do what you want off the clock - but when an organization injects (or allows) politics on the clock - especially politics that will lead to the death of this nation in short order? Yeaaaa. [censored] that. That's my opinion on it at least. Been done with pro sports long before this - so not much has changed for me. Same reason why I will row a boat across the atlantic before I ever step foot on an American Airlines flight ever again.

I don't go into a business and brow beat them with my politics. I expect the same in return.

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Didn't you also start a thread on the NFL boycott working? You flop around more than a perch on hot pavement

Serious question Buzz; When you watch those games and see the politics injected and the disrespect to the flag don't you feel like they are kinda slapping you in the face, saying "if you don't like it, don't watch"?

Doesn't that make it hard to watch? I have loved football most of my life........cowboys fan since I was a kid..........but the way they are treating me it was easier for me to stop watching than I thought it might be....

doin' the crappie flop

Great response, well thought out. Thank you.

Some of you guys should just go ahead and post that pic of you sitting on that anti-aircraft gun!

I agree and this is the way I feel about it. I'll add the the same NFL would not allow the Cowboys to put the murdered Dallas officers' names on their helmets to honor them, but they will allow this nonsense. I would have felt better about the DPD thing if they told the players now they can't put anything on their helmets either to keep it consistent.
I guess what I'm doing is technically a boycott, but I don't consider it one. I just don't have any interest in watching these thugs anymore. I'm under no illusion that I'm affecting anyone's bottom line and that's not why I'm not watching any games. I just don't want to watch them anymore. It really is that simple for me.

Not at all.

No, it’s pretty much the same.

Yes, it is. But since you are just going to watch your "boys" you clearly don't see it.

Yeah zeke with BLM on the back of his helmet was a turn off. I’d rather see cowboys like it’s supposed to be

Grizz brings up a great point. The NFL censors what can be expressed. It’s one thing to allow individuals to express themselves. When they decide what may be expressed, and it’s anti-American, then that organization and its supporters are decidedly anti-American. If you watch the NFL, you are supporting them and their anti-American views. Sugar coat it and justify it all you want. You’re anti-American. You’re my enemy.

you have a great point Marc and I see red when I see and hear the things you are talking about.

I agree there is ONLY 1 National Anthem and its for All people not just white people, the blk Anthem is ridiculous and I bet there are a bunch of black people who agree, its stupid.

Cowboys had one guy who kneeled. Listening to Dak Prescott's opinions. I agree with him. I think the main thing we should be worried about is November 3rd. This is the next "D" Day for America. If Trump cant overcome the weak chit the Dems are putting out there, we are sunk as America as we know it.

I don't think me turning on the Cowboy game at kickoff and watching is going to hurt anything. I WILL NOT watch any other NFL games for the reasons you all list. Yes it may sound hypocritical but like you, I got splinters in my AZZ sitting in the Cotton Bowl watching Dandy Don, Bob Lilly, Cheered and cried along with the Cowboys. On to Texas Stadium where I played the drums for Tyler Junior College during the FIRST game played there. I went to every home game, two of their Super Bowls, watched most games on the sidelines through all those games. I got to shake hands with Tom Landry at every home game as the walked off the field and into the locker room before the kick-off. Having him check the starting line ups for any player changes.

Pretty cool history and I'm just not going to stop watching them. I wish it was still like it was back then.


As far as the OT, I enjoy bantering back n forth with most of you guys. A few take it to far with a mean spirit but I realize why, it's their passion of their love of the flag and our great country. Please believe me , no one loves the USA more than me. I get very emotional when I see Patriotic Stuff on TV. During the State Fair of Texas, I would go to the Marine Corps Square and watch the Commandant's own Marine Drum and Bugle Corps and the Silent Drill teams 4:00 show, then walk with them to their sweet drum cadence to the Hall of State for Retreat as the Corp played the national Anthem and the old Casson Cannon was fired as the flag was lowered, JEEEZ, what a great time. I get chills everytime I remember it.

Anyway got off track, God Bless

Touching. I can guarantee that MANY love this country more than you. You put football first. Give me a break.

Buzz is the nice guy in school that gets picked on and loves it, and of course the relentless bullies keep at it on every single F'n thread. A perfect marriage guess...

Having a backbone doesn’t make someone a bully.

"It may sound hypocritical"

It doesn't sound that way, it is. Why are you only watching the Cowboys? Does it make you feel better about yourself to say that. If you watch one game you are supporting them no way around it. You look pathetic saying you will ONLY watch the Cowboys.

2020 is showing us who has a backbone and who doesn't.

It’s not mean spirit, either. It’s standing up for America. It’s a spirit you know nothing about. You ditched America for football.

Yep. Bunch of posers. People that think voting for Trump makes them a conservative. People that whine about the left, yet support them because they’re addicted to a child’s game. Unbelievable.

Never said it did. But posting your one sided opinion on every single sports thread does not mean you have backbone, and do you really think the time put into all these posts makes a difference in the grand scheme of things? Zip, and that is rouding up. Just a few guys trying to talk sports, but you want to spend your life grand standing on these threads. Dumb.

But it's ok because they are only watching one of the teams. And we all know doing something every week but only once a week doesn't mean you support it.

Do you need a safe place too?

Wanting to censor the Right to protest is a lot worse than watching sports.

Rangers at the Astros anyone?

I been dealing with the BS long before you grasshopper.

Feel better now?

Everyone bow down to the most American guy in the room. He dislikes NFL football and everyone who watches is his enemy.

FWIW, the NFL is a private organization. The great thing about America is an employer can allow anyone to express whatever they want as long as it's legal, or also put restrictions on those employees. Because, you know, this is America. But since it doesn't follow your beliefs it's anti-American? I guess you support "America" as long as it falls within your view......Good thing the Founding Father's didn't share your perspective.

Amazing that some can't see past the nose on their face and recognize the thing they are calling anti-American is because what they are doing is expressing their beliefs. It's comical, and hypocritical.

Take a deep breath.

Do you see anyone doing that? Think again.

I think you're safe Guy, Sneaky lives in Arizona.

Here's 44 reasons the NFL can shove it up their collective asses. Blue Lives Matter

1. Public Safety Officer Jackson Ryan Winkeler
2. Officer Tiffany-Victoria Bilon Enriquez
3. Officer Kaulike Kalama
4. Police Officer Katherine Mary Thyne
5. Police Officer Alan Daniel McCollum
6. Deputy Sheriff Richard Edward Whitten
7. Police Officer Nick O'Rear
8. Trooper Joseph Jon Bullock
9. Officer David Kellywood
10. Corporal Andrew J. Gillette
11. Police Officer Brent William Perry Scrimshire
12. Sergeant James R. O'Connor, IV
13. Police Officer Christopher Ryan Walsh
14. Police Officer Kaia LaFay Grant
15. Sergeant Ben Jenkins
16. Commander Greg Carnicle
17. Officer Breann Leath
18. Police Officer Justin Putnam
19. Police Officer Christopher Eric Ewing
20. Police Officer Dan Walters
21. Lieutenant Glenn Dale Hutto, Jr.
22. Police Officer Michael S. Mosher

23. Police Officer Cody N. Holte

24. Police Officer Nathan James Lyday

25. Police Officer Waldis "Jay" Johnson

26. Lieutenant Stephen P. Williams

27. Sergeant Damon Gutzwiller

28. Deputy Sheriff James H. Blair

29. Wildlife Officer Julian Keen, Jr.

30. Police Officer Destin Legieza

31. Sergeant Craig Vincent Johnson

32. Police Officer Anthony Dia

33. Police Officer Edelmiro Garza, Jr.

34. Police Officer Ismael Chavez

35. Trooper Caleb Starr

36. Police Officer Sheena Dae Yarbrough-Powell

37. Sergeant Ricardo Perez-Ortiz

38. Police Officer Bryan Brown

39. Police Officer Tamarris Leon-Wesley Bohannon

40. Corporal Bryant Searcy

41. Captain Stanley Curtis Elrod

42. Detective James M. Skernivitz

43. Investigator Luis "Mario" Herrera

44. Deputy Sheriff Ryan Hendrix

I think it’s dumb to post nearly nude photos of your daughter on the internet, but that’s freedom. You do you.

Yeah, I’ll go out on a limb and say that supporting an organization that condones killing innocent people is anti-American.

I haven’t seen anyone ask for that.

The NFL condones killing innocent people? I haven't seen them take that stance.....where did you find that?

What on earth does that have to do with anything?

You bringing my daughter into this? Man you really are desperate. Setting a new low.

Enjoy your football, Doc.

It was a comment about you and your values, and you know it.

Typical liberal deflection.

Ouch. If you get down to it, it’s definitely easier to talk the talk than walk the walk...

Keep running your mouth...But I'm done...

This thread is comical.

Y’all go meet at the park, all you old implants check you belly guns at the gate. Lol

Only thing that would make this better is if It said "looses".

Doesn't get much lower than that.....

I was gonna say, "Stay Classy", but obviously he doesn't know how.

low self esteem. pitiful

I think that one goes both ways. Two wrongs IMO. Wide open on an unrestricted social media platform.

You take a highly sensitive issue and troll bait it with no haters allowed, then comment from cheap seats after you’ve spent last theee months damming people with better health then your self for not wearing masks? Pitiful

This has been hilarious. I thank each and every one of you for the entertainment value you have brought.

NO kiddin!

How bout them Cow. . . . . . . Nevermind

Wow, had some work today. Busy day here.

Saying “you live in Arizona” is the same as bringing up someone’s daughter?

Think you are missing the context

I’m overly cautious with my kids... call me old fashion, but I’m damn sure not posting bikini pics of them up on an unrestricted social media platform with zero viewer restrictions, and then calling some one out on class while standing on a my moral high ground.

Like I said both are wrong, but both can exercise their freedoms and guardianship freedoms as they wish

That was my intention, nothing more. I do regret doing it, and I apologize. It wasn’t my intention to bring anyone else into the argument.

Goodnight.

I wanna know how just how much alcohol was involved in the 2nd half of this thread. Curios

Which is exactly what the NFL has been doing Sir. No prayer on the field, no stickers or any other letters put together anywhere on your persons that protests the killing of police officers or any other REAL heroes, no Blue Lives Matter material....but it's OK to openly support BLM and it's OK for you to put letters together on your persons to protest F'ng law breaking THUGS being killed because they are black. GTFO of here with that BS!

Staying in the locker room and not coming onto the field FOR OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM or kneeling because somehow you feel like you have been underprivileged or done wrong....bitch please.

The NFL is just like Facebook now. They censor everything and only approve of things that fit their anti American agenda. If you can't see what's happening now I recommend you reset, like I did. I have always loved football and watching the games, but they can't just play the game anymore. Actors just can't act anymore. Nobody can just do their jobs anymore and STFU. You are entertainers. Your religious or political beliefs don't mean [censored] to me and I don't want to hear them.

My 9 & 6 year old kids can't even watch cartoons anymore because all of the BLM and LGBT commercials on TV. Yes I am discusted and angry. The left NEVER ever keeps their beliefs to themselves. Somehow they feel morally obligated to shove their [censored] in our faces, and I'm getting real tired of it.

Good on you for apologizing, Sneaky. Goodnight.

I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, relax, and think about what they’re about to post. How about that?

Someone who is overly-cautious about posting their kids on an open forum can surely understand the “context” in which throwing said post in the face of the father in a totally unrelated thread and topic is irrelevant. If you don’t like that someone posted their own kids on a forum because kids shouldn’t be posted or discussed, then that’s the only context that matters. Leave the kids out of it.

But a lot of y’all need to get a grip and relax. It’s freaking embarrassing in here lately.

Duck, your green jeans work on the other side. I do agree with what you saying though

So this is what I missed last night while I was watching President Trump in the live Town Hall discussion MANHANDLE that little prick George Stephanopoulos, then switched it over to Laura Ingraham for the recap. Good night on the boob tube, not so good here!

Y'all need Jesus.

This discussion is akin to a bunch of Baptists whining about who is sitting closest to the altar.

Wow woke up to this,.....ok. I have one question and listen closely to it!

Who the hell is ""Heavyduty?!"

Oh I didn’t say I agreed with it using it, thus why I said it was wrong. I just stated context. If I was Guy I’d probably been in route.

there where better ways of getting his point across with out going that route. Sneaky knows it too, thus why he apologized would be my guess.

Buzz got what he wanted with this thread

Wow Sneaky, what a lowlife move on your part. Just shows you will stoop to any level to attack a member here.

Shame on you!

This thread should be titled “Idiots who still support commies & are too stupid to stop”.

I’m emberassed for you guys who still watch pro sports. Your an idiot.

I mean, what’s it gonna take for you to quit watching people who hate you & want to re-order our society into a communist [censored].

How much more can they disrespect you & your country before you quit watching? Some of you are addicted to the NFL like it’s crack. Grow the [censored] up, go outside & do something positive with your time.

Lots of weak willed people here.

If you still watch the NFL, we aren’t countrymen.

Obviously he is dead on the inside, like alll commies are. Besides being brain dead. Probably a Democrat also.

'Embarrassed '

"You are"........ how ironic.

How ironic that you call someone out for their character and "stooping low" and you're correcting another man's grammar. Pot meet kettle

Welcome to the OT!

This thread needs some Bob Ross...

* you're

OOOOOOPssssss

Sorry Sir

Hmmm



Serious question. Is not watching sports and telling everyone about it the conservative version of being woke?

That being said I've not watched nfl or nba in longer than a decade. For many reasons.

Woke before woke was cool.

Strange times we live in.

I watch certain sports. I don't care if someone wants to watch football, basketball or what. I just don't understand when they say they don't agree with them or support the movement but then watch or somehow think only watching one team makes them better.

That is too funny, I thought you were joking at first,..but it was by accident.

Too funny!

Boy did this thing get some legs...I didn’t see near this potential.

really? Ray Charles could see that coming.

Well I went and made a drunk post last night. Still meant what I said though.

Really....I guess you can call me Stevie Wonder then

Yep saying a certain group isn't allowed to post is the same as a double dog dare, just like starting off a controversial thread with "I don't want to start any fights, but...). For those old enough to remember, it's like saying "please don't throw me in that briar patch".

I think the verdict is in Buzz.Your idea is about as popular as a fart in church . Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a SPORTS forum added to the other forums.

yep you're right ...got in over my head on this one

sincere apologies to all involved

You are good Buzz, holdfast!

Dont apologize. We just need to work on J.P. about adding a SPORTS forum

I also don't approve of fake paper fans or cheerleaders.

You don't approve of cheerleaders? Bill you got sundowners bro, go to bed.

Don't approve of paper cheerleaders. Read my lips.

What's the difference from hump day and paper cheerleaders?

Check out the Food Network Channel, put an eyeball on Giada De Laurentiis and forget about football.

He ain’t got the cajones to stand behind his word. I sold my ford truck and bought a Chevy. But pitchfork turned off his tv. Who’s more american ?

You buy from the companies that Sponsor the NFL/BLM with your hard earned money, like literally give them your money for their goods and services. But that’s not apples and oranges!! Listen up geniuses you are directly/indirectly supporting BLM. But you turn the tv on to watch an nfl game you’re a communist.

THF member- “you watched a game, you’re supporting those terrorists even though you didn’t give them any money but you gave them ratings. You ain’t got no backbone. Hey check out my new ford truck”

Chevy wouldn't exist without interference from Obammy. Thary suck too.

I wonder if pitchfork when he helps his clients with stocks, if one is tanking and doing really bad, does he tell the client to stop buying the stock? Or does he tell that client to turn off their tv when they see that stock as to not to support a bad stock. Cuz turning off the tv makes the problem go away

GO Stars!!

Well that was a super fail....

Ford supports BLM. What’s more patriotic than turning off your tv? Selling your ford off course.

So you sold your Ford which makes money off the NFL so in a round about way indirectly supports BLM to buy a Chevy which is directly supporting big government bail outs taking money directly from tax payers and giving it to failing businesses because they're "to big to fail". Got it... BLM will come and go just like they did after Mike Brown they professional sports players will either shut up and play (do their job) or they'll lose viewership and advertisers will pull out (Ford). Chevy will still have taken a massive bailout from the American tax payers. I'll stick with my Ford, thanks.

Point goes to KY

You’re on the clock June

Guess you missed Fords bailout. It’s ok I included link. And you still support BLM terrorists by buying directly from an nfl sponsor. So let me get this straight K, now it’s ok to watch the nfl because blm will come and go just like after Mike brown?

So you support BLM, Ford, NFL, and government bailouts. Can’t think of any reason why that’s not American

Fords $6B debt to government

Excellent rebuttal

All square

You’re on the clock KY

Kyle just inadvertently proved June’s point with the “BLM will come and go just like they did after Mike Brown...”

Ford did not take TARP funds bail out. They requested a 9B line of credit and in turn pledged to spend 14B on new technologies. Which is now coming to fruition with the new all electric F150 they're coming out with. So no, Ford did not take "bailout money".

I didn't say it was ok to watch NFL because BLM will come and go, I said that this movement would pass just like all the rest and either the players get back to work and people start watching again, or they screwed the pooch and have lost a lot of life long fans because of their antics. Then it is a domino effect. People stop watching, ratings go down, sponsors don't make as much money, sponsors pull out, NFL goes down the drain, ect... Ford would then not be sponsoring an organization (NFL) that supports BLM.

It's all a business decision for Ford, I'm sure they couldn't care less about BLM, but I'm sure they make a lot of money off the NFL. I'm not going to sell my $70K dollar Raptor just because some jackasses want to kneel on a field. I'm also not beating my chest saying that if you watch the NFL you're unamerican. I don't give a chit what other men do as long as it doesn't effect me or my family. My first post was in jest making light of the whole Ford vs Chevy thing. So take a deep breath, stop punching the keys on your keyboard, and squeezing your mouse so hard. It'll be ok.

You will never know the answer will you Junebug? The military is much better off without weaklings like you that are hooked on TV like a junky on crack.....

I have full faith KY will turn this around.

Your ideology is so refreshing. Can’t wait to read your manifesto

Sorry to disappoint you......you are the only one that can fix your addiction.......I have much better uses of my time....

Had me fooled

I wonder when NFL sponsors sign their contracts and how many have been told how racist it would be to cut ties with the NFL specifically for BLM reasons. As if the BLM isn’t beyond blackmail.

Interesting times.

Payne. What's the score?

2-1 June but I think the emotions are kicking in


It's anybodies game at this point

Exactly, a lot of these businesses contractually obligated already. If they pull out, not only would they lose a lot of money they'd also be called racist and their plants would probably be fire bombed.

Kroyal. Welcome to the team

This game is rigged... He has only rebutted once, and still hasn't responded to my last post. How is he up 2 to 1 with only one rebuttal?

I think that it was conceded. Congratulations June, you won this one.

I am the scorekeeper, deal with it

People don’t want rational facts, including those trying to push an agenda, for what ever reason. The JJ watts are a rarity in the NFL, not to many business with more felons and wife beaters then NFL.

lmao KY

Texas prison rodeo bobo

Think ky pulled a walk off grandslam with this one.

They have an actual career and path to reform, NFL just builds a worse base by empowering and bailing them out.

I'll call it a tie, KY sneaks in with a style point

Congratulations to you both, pm me your addys and i'll get those participation ribbons right out.

Sorry I wasn't taking this seriously, I think all major sports have their fair share of criminal activity.

I wasn’t either, but NFL leads the pack by a large margin

I don't know that as a fact unless you are going by instances instead of per capita.

You have my address, include some sausage along with my ribbon. It better be made in USA too dammit, no commie ribbons in my house.

Payne wins THF today.

A survey of 252 nationally-reported criminal cases in one year that involved athletes found that about 14% (49) of the athletes involved were professional football players. This compared to about 7% (25) professional baseball players and about 6% (twenty-one) of professional basketball and hockey players.
en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Athlete...

That’s just one year.....

Those numbers are skewed. There are 53 players on an nfl roster not including practice squad. More ppl on a team vs let’s say basketball or baseball

From this, to this;



See? Participation trophies DO work!

I hereby appoint myself scorekeeper supreme and declare KY the winner!

If they couldn’t get into the military with those records, should they be able to play sports?

I think every one should do two years of some sort of community service, military or city/state work before college or career.

That includes the athletes. We’ve become an entitled nation.

It's entertainment plain and simple. Background on these players mean little

tis MN Pride...
i dont hold it against ya for being a fan...

Ya, whin the salary cap went inta effect, & Dallas quit winning, they started loosing fans...
Hear they ( ) picked up one of Vikings defenceman front...

Best wish's...

So which is worse and more unamerican, a stereotypical actor or football player? Discuss amongst yourselves

I can watch a movie without knowing/learning anything about the actors' politics.

Championship event that gets no recognition. I can just feel the excitement it projects.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/21/7122...nk-champions-look-to-reclaim-their-glory

I concur,

That is a tough one to answer.........tie.........I haven't gone to a movie since late 2015 when I was referred to by numerous actors as a toothless redneck if I voted for Trump........ I never cared about their politics, just wanted to be entertained........if we ever get back to the way it was........you do you, I'll do me.......I would go to movies and sporting events again......

Sounds very. Communist like.

sometimes you need to give before you take.

Did somebody call me?

Yes this has been a boring thread..........I'm sure you can liven it up...........

I thought you went to jail for bank robbery!!

kind of feels like I have a dog whistle sometimes

I left san Juan del sur Nicaragua kinda fast last week

The supreme emperor agrees.

That's right and don't forget you place rubber duck.........

TNF anyone?

This thread wasn’t enough for you, as it was?

Nah Rangers playing Stros right now.

Kyle I agree with you, but...it’s the exact same thing people who are still watching the NFL have been saying. June isn’t wrong for saying it’s no different than not selling your Ford or continuing to buy Coke products, or not cutting the cord (because pro sports leagues benefit from you having ESPN or TNT for the NBA or NFL channel; it’s the same reason ESPN is in trouble with people cutting the cord; they’re making money on you just having ESPN in your cable package). Selling your Raptor is an extreme decision, but it doesn’t mean you’re not supporting Ford, which sponsors the NFL. It’s a reductionist argument, but it’s not wrong. It just shows how silly the entire boycott thing is. Watch or don’t watch, but it would take great lengths for all of us to quit supporting the NFL in anyway, and that’s the hypocrisy of the boycotts. Watching the games doesn’t mean you agree with it anymore than buying products of the NFL’s sponsors mean you support it. That’s June’s entire point, and he is goading some of y’all into this position. If someone goes as far as selling their truck to protest the NFL, more power to you, but the vast majority of people won’t do it, and that’s his point.



This further proves his point. So it’s OK that the businesses you continue to support won’t break their contract and waste millions f dollars because they’re contractually obligated to keep their contract, but they’d also be called racist? But the NFL, which employs a lot of black men and pays the millions, should not allow their best players to express their opinions, even though they’d immediately be called racist?

Do you see the hypocrisy? Do you know how many brands would immediately cut the contract and pay millions for the opt out to distance themselves from what would be considered a racist move by the NFL to outlaw kneeling or disallow the players to wear someon’s name on their helmets?

Y’all aren’t seeing the forest for the trees on this issue. I don’t agree with the kneeling, protests or names on the helmets. They’re all misguided. But the NFL is doing exactly what you’re defending the NFL brand sponsors for not doing.

Money trumps all. You’re just selectively defending one over the other and I’m not sure why.

Kyle’s LEGO gif was worth at least a point, Payne. It’s tied up.

Holy lord is that a huge pivot to the discussion.

If you skip the five minutes before kickoff, there is very little chance you’ll see anyone’s politics. And I agree, I don want to know the politics of athletes, musicians or actors. Or any celebrity, for that matter.

Just commies