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2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel

Posted By: Jgraider

2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 07:41 PM

Anybody drove a 2020 model Ram 4x4 with the 3rd gen EcoDiesel engine? My son just bought a '20 model Crew 4x4 and it loafs up and down HWY 75 getting 30.3 mpg at 72 mph. If you don't mind let's save the Ford/Chev/Dodge BS that usually ensues, as I've owned them all, but am curious about this specific truck and engine. Thanks, and please keep in mind I'm referring to the NEW 3rd generation ecodiesel introduced for 2020 model year.
Posted By: texasag93

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 07:47 PM

popcorn

I would love to get 30+ doing 70.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by texasag93
popcorn

I would love to get 18+ doing 55.



FIFY roflmao
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 08:54 PM

Wonder what the F150 diesel gets for mpg?
Posted By: redchevy

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 08:55 PM

Have a 2015, owner since new 90,000 miles zero issues. Over 30 at 70 mph is probably a little optimistic... but not much.

It’s not a speed demon and it’s not an HD diesel but it darn sure does a 1/2 to. Pickup job and gets small car mileage.
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by redchevy
Have a 2015, owner since new 90,000 miles zero issues. Over 30 at 70 mph is probably a little optimistic... but not much.

It’s not a speed demon and it’s not an HD diesel but it darn sure does a 1/2 to. Pickup job and gets small car mileage.


He has a 3.21 rear end.
Posted By: jetdad

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 09:09 PM

I had a 2015. It left me stranded twice. It had emission systems issues. I liked the truck when it worked. I know some didn't have problems and other like me did. Maybe they got the kinks worked out. I traded mine. I think it's a good engine. Just burdened with too much exhaust inhibitors for it to run like it should.
Posted By: redchevy

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 09:33 PM

Just saying don’t expect to set the cruise on 70 and get 30 mpg it won’t happen. Head wind will stop it rain will stop it non pure hwy will stop it. If the computer is saying 30 figure on 28-29 being the truth. Not nocking it at all love mine to death.
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 09:57 PM

He's done it multiple times. I'm not guessing, you are. He also knows how to do math.....hand calculate his mileage. He can set it on 70 and run 13-1400 rpms. I've also driven enough to know how head wind and tail wind affect such things. My '19 GMC Sierra Crew 4x4 will get 22-23mpg with a tail wind at 70mph. I know how to do math too.
Posted By: Superduty

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by redchevy
Just saying don’t expect to set the cruise on 70 and get 30 mpg it won’t happen. Head wind will stop it rain will stop it non pure hwy will stop it. If the computer is saying 30 figure on 28-29 being the truth. Not nocking it at all love mine to death.


I 100% agree, no way.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 10:15 PM

Sounds like Ram got it right on this model.

https://5thgenrams.com/2020-ram-1500-ecodiesel-highway-mpg-loop/
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Superduty
Originally Posted by redchevy
Just saying don’t expect to set the cruise on 70 and get 30 mpg it won’t happen. Head wind will stop it rain will stop it non pure hwy will stop it. If the computer is saying 30 figure on 28-29 being the truth. Not nocking it at all love mine to death.


I 100% agree, no way.



You'd be wrong as well. What part of "he's already done it multiple times" that is hard to understand?
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hancock
Sounds like Ram got it right on this model.

https://5thgenrams.com/2020-ram-1500-ecodiesel-highway-mpg-loop/



Well I'll be damned........30.3 mpg. Who'd a thunk it?
Posted By: Big Fitz

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Jgraider
Originally Posted by Hancock
Sounds like Ram got it right on this model.

https://5thgenrams.com/2020-ram-1500-ecodiesel-highway-mpg-loop/



Well I'll be damned........30.3 mpg. Who'd a thunk it?


Pretty impressive. That's more HP and torque than my 01 7.3 and WAY better fuel efficiency.
Posted By: Superduty

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jgraider
Originally Posted by Hancock
Sounds like Ram got it right on this model.

https://5thgenrams.com/2020-ram-1500-ecodiesel-highway-mpg-loop/



Well I'll be damned........30.3 mpg. Who'd a thunk it?


Written by Ram .....I Still call B.S!
Posted By: Superduty

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 11:03 PM

Here ya go, a little unbiased.

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2019/12/2020-ram-1500-ecodiesel-mpg-report-after-900-miles.html


The MPG Results
Over the 901.7-mile round trip, unloaded, the Ram used 36.112 gallons of diesel fuel for a calculated average of 25.0 mpg. The truck's trip computer showed an average of 23.8 mpg, which was surprisingly lower than our observed mpg for this test. Both figures, however, fell short of the EcoDiesel's highway number, which was disappointing considering that the route was composed of nearly all highway miles. There are a few reasons that might explain this.

The 900 miles weren't flat and came with a lot of elevation change, from Los Angeles at sea level to Zion at 3,000 feet above sea level, plus you have climb over mountains to get there. Additionally, though the truck didn't keep track of average speed, it would have been quite high for this route considering raised speed limits in parts of Arizona and Utah where the Ram just isn't as efficient above 70 mph.

I would be remiss to conclude without mentioning that a gussied-up Ram 1500 Longhorn with the diesel engine is a near perfect companion for a long road trip. The interior is fantastic and comfortable, and with the 33-gallon tank I did about 600 miles on the first tank alone and could have gone farther. And, it is quiet. There's some diesel growl when accelerating, but while cruising the noise vanishes and the cabin is impressively serene for a pickup. The EcoDiesel may not have reached its lofty EPA fuel economy estimate in my test, but it certainly made a big fan out of me.
Posted By: Superduty

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 11:03 PM

Want more?

https://www.greencarreports.com/new...m-1500-ecodiesel-is-a-brawny-fuel-sipper
Posted By: Superduty

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 11:06 PM

Mic drop....


https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-2020-ram-1500s-fuel-economy-is-drastically-worse-than-advertised/



The 2020 Ram 1500's Fuel Economy Is Drastically Worse Than Advertised
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Superduty
Mic drop....


https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-2020-ram-1500s-fuel-economy-is-drastically-worse-than-advertised/



The 2020 Ram 1500's Fuel Economy Is Drastically Worse Than Advertised


I actually read that report

Quote
That the 2020 Ram 1500 Rebel EcoDiesel returned 24 mpg in our 75-mph highway fuel-economy test is remarkable by itself. But when considered against the 18 mpg returned by its counterpart, the Ram 1500 Rebel equipped with a gasoline-burning 5.7-liter Hemi V-8, the diesel is truly compelling. Its fuel-economy number, however, comes with at least one caveat. Both trucks we tested were all-wheel-drive Rebel off-road models with the same final-drive ratios, tires, and cab and bed configurations. But despite Fiat Chrysler's bold insistence that the EcoDiesel will be on sale before the end of the year, it has not yet received EPA emissions certification. The EPA's fuel-economy estimates are still forthcoming as well. Put simply, there's no way to know if the engine calibration we tested here will be the one Ram will eventually sell.
Posted By: grimreapor

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/19/20 11:36 PM

[quote=68rustbucket]Wonder what the F150 diesel gets for mpg?
Mine gets 24mpg no matter how I drive it.
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 12:06 AM

Get back to me when you find a road test like the one Hancock cited (not written by Ram by the way) specifically on the 3.21 rear end, as I was referring to, and 70mph as I was mentioning referring to my son's actual mpg. Feel free to browse through this forum and you will find multiple examples of 30mpg as well, or you can stay out in left field.

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/forums/#ram-1500-generation-3-ecodiesel-forum.98
Posted By: Superduty

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Jgraider
Get back to me when you find a road test like the one Hancock cited (not written by Ram by the way) specifically on the 3.21 rear end, as I was referring to, and 70mph as I was mentioning referring to my son's actual mpg. Feel free to browse through this forum and you will find multiple examples of 30mpg as well, or you can stay out in left field.

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/forums/#ram-1500-generation-3-ecodiesel-forum.98


Not even clicking on link. 'Ram1500diesel.com"

rofl
Posted By: BigPig

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Jgraider
Get back to me when you find a road test like the one Hancock cited (not written by Ram by the way) specifically on the 3.21 rear end, as I was referring to, and 70mph as I was mentioning referring to my son's actual mpg. Feel free to browse through this forum and you will find multiple examples of 30mpg as well, or you can stay out in left field.

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/forums/#ram-1500-generation-3-ecodiesel-forum.98



If you’re so sure, why don’t you just go buy one?
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 03:05 AM

I don’t know how everyone gets 20-25+ mpg in a truck. Hell I can’t get over 12.5 in mine. Well I can going down hill and reset my mileage calculator I get like 35 mpg until I touch the pedal again rofl
Posted By: redchevy

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Jgraider
He's done it multiple times. I'm not guessing, you are. He also knows how to do math.....hand calculate his mileage. He can set it on 70 and run 13-1400 rpms. I've also driven enough to know how head wind and tail wind affect such things. My '19 GMC Sierra Crew 4x4 will get 22-23mpg with a tail wind at 70mph. I know how to do math too.

Not saying he cant not saying it won’t. I’ve done it myself. I’ve done as good as 32 mpg hand calculated over a tank with over 800 miles on one 26 gal fill up. It’s just not an every day thing. Mine is deleted and tuned for economy it gets better mileage than your sons.

I sorry your taking it the wrong way, I like mine very much glad I bought it 5 years ago. All I’m saying is if you drive it back and forth to work your not going to get 30 mpg unless you hypermile the hell out of it or have a 50 mph flat no stop sign commute.

I say buy one I’ve loved mine and all I’ve done is fluid and filter changes.
Posted By: TLew

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by KRoyal
I don’t know how everyone gets 20-25+ mpg in a truck. Hell I can’t get over 12.5 in mine. Well I can going down hill and reset my mileage calculator I get like 35 mpg until I touch the pedal again rofl


I'm happy when my computer says 14
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 01:03 PM

No problem Red, I certainly don't think it is standard procedure to get that many mpg's but it has been proven by my son and many on that forum I linked that it can happen more than just occasionally. Thanks for the feedback, and glad to know yours has been reliable. This is a "want" deal, definitely not a "need". Appreciate the help.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 01:30 PM

I trashed the itty bitty Eco diesel when it came out. I didn’t see the point. One of my friends has first gen diesel and been good to him. I could see 30 mpg. I can see 19/20 in a F250, just wouldn’t be the one getting that for multiple reasons... lol

I think I’d buy a long travel 30mpg diesel.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by TLew
Originally Posted by KRoyal
I don’t know how everyone gets 20-25+ mpg in a truck. Hell I can’t get over 12.5 in mine. Well I can going down hill and reset my mileage calculator I get like 35 mpg until I touch the pedal again rofl


I'm happy when my computer says 14


I think I’m 14.5 in my truck.
Posted By: Cochise

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Hancock
Originally Posted by Superduty
Mic drop....


https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-2020-ram-1500s-fuel-economy-is-drastically-worse-than-advertised/



The 2020 Ram 1500's Fuel Economy Is Drastically Worse Than Advertised


I actually read that report

Quote
That the 2020 Ram 1500 Rebel EcoDiesel returned 24 mpg in our 75-mph highway fuel-economy test is remarkable by itself. But when considered against the 18 mpg returned by its counterpart, the Ram 1500 Rebel equipped with a gasoline-burning 5.7-liter Hemi V-8, the diesel is truly compelling. Its fuel-economy number, however, comes with at least one caveat. Both trucks we tested were all-wheel-drive Rebel off-road models with the same final-drive ratios, tires, and cab and bed configurations. But despite Fiat Chrysler's bold insistence that the EcoDiesel will be on sale before the end of the year, it has not yet received EPA emissions certification. The EPA's fuel-economy estimates are still forthcoming as well. Put simply, there's no way to know if the engine calibration we tested here will be the one Ram will eventually sell.


Don't quote me but I am pretty sure Ram re-flashed all the 2020s (gassers for sure) prior to putting them on the market - I think it's noted on the window stickers. I know my 2020 1500 5.7 does at least. EcoDiesel would have been nice....I sure ain't gonna see 24+ mpg with 3.92s
Posted By: redchevy

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 02:31 PM

Things i have seen with mine.

I have 3.55 gears, knowing i do not drive much over 70 i wish i would have gotten the 3.92 gears for towing, but the 3.55's do pretty good.

It is a dual overhead cam engine, it winds up well, you will find if your looking for performance/speed/towing it will like to be over 2000 rpm, which many have ingrained in their mind diesel = low rpm, use tow/haul and let it do its thing.

The coil springs suck AZZ, leaf springs from 30 years prior in 1/2 ton trucks carry and handle a load better. Air bags or weight distribution is a necessity if your going to haul a camper or similar

Let it warm up before you hammer on it

Get it out on the hwy and work it ever once in a while the emissions stuff wont do well with put put city driving

The transmission is awesome, dodge/ram must have gotten tired of people trash talking their trash trannies because they hit it out of the park with the ZF!

I tow a 24 foot center console regularly with mine and have towed a 30-foot 7500 lb camper a few times and it did well.

When you are getting on the on ramp with a load you will wonder about it because it doesnt have the HP to just get up and go with a load quickly, but once you reach cruise speed it is smooth and efficient.

They come with 2 transfer cases, one is a part time part number 44-45(this is the good one) the other is a full time/has auto 44 setting, it is driven by a clutch system and if you ever need 4x4 for much or anything it is not what you want, it comes in most of the higher trim level trucks, im not sure if you can get away from it in them, but i wouldn't own one.

Im probably going to put a gooseneck in mine within a year or so, we will see how it goes.
Posted By: Gangly

Re: 2020 Dodge Ram EcoDiesel - 07/20/20 03:56 PM

The RAM diesel is nice, but the 2020 GM 1500 diesel is where its at if MPG is truly what your looking for. Averaging over 30 MPG through all the big magazine tests and some are getting close to 40 mpg when going to extreme MPG measures. Its just a shame the GM cant have the interior of the RAM.
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