Many Americans Are Getting More Money From Unemployment Than They Were From Their Jobs

They need to fix this now...
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ployment-than-they-were-from-their-jobs/

Fix? Why? Who wouldn't want to do better and not have to work?

I know on the THF we all make 6 figures and we are all 6-foot + tall and we are all packin an anaconda behind our zipper....

Stats for height/weight say we are shorter and fatter than what we post on line and we don't make as much as we say either. If the median and mean income from the census bureau are anywhere near accurate lots of people made more.

Tongue- in -cheek?

Ya' think?

I think Hud was serious....I mean we all know about those liberal whiskey drinkin sausage stuffers....

Many businesses can't reopen because their employees won't come back to work. I have a few clients in that boat and it's putting them on the brink of closing doors for good.

The lack of traffic on my commute coming into Dallas tells me the vast majority of people have not gone back to work or are now working remotely. Same with our office complex parking lot and garages - pretty much empty still.

No doubt traffic is lighter for me, but there is still a boat load of people on the roads in San Antonio. A large part of the reduced traffic for me is that schools are closed.

Nah, I'm only 5'9".

I think shutting things down was a bad thing, best thing we can do now is open everything up and let the people decide if they want to stay home or not. If they want to make money or not. Anyone know how many deaths there have been in Texas? Stop being scared, and let's go.

Also, I hate our mayor! That is all

I'm 5'8" tall AND round

5'11, 195 Ding..Ding.

And others will have a hard time convincing their workers they can only do their jobs while working in an office.

It's just a test run - how many times do I have to tell you folks?

One caution on these stories, a lot of workers where tips are part of their income, only report part of their tips. I'm sure there are workers collecting more on unemployment with the $600 extra some aren't.

You've been hanging around with tinhead? They will never get us in a cage again.

I didn't say it was going to work. I am thinking they are seeing that right in front of them.

I personally know 2 people that are killing it on unemployment. One wants to go back the other does not.

Fix it?
Pelosi just ponied up another round.

1360 Texas covid deaths....... This state has turned soft. Open things up, let's go

Causing a big problem in the restaurant and bar industry. My son is trying to bring back furloughed staff to the bar he manages in Austin, and they are telling him to go away. They're happy cashing unemployment checks and streaming Netflix or playing video games. And if he reports them to the TEC, all they have to say is that they are "uncomfortable" going back to work due to COVID and they get a pass. Governor needs to step in here and kick these free loaders in the Azz.

As I understand it; once your former place of employment can take you back, no more $600 a week bonus.

Makes sense to me! Put them on the no longer gets free money list.

"Pelosi just ponied up another round." Let ol' Tin Head help me here - $3,000,000,000,0000 divided by 87,530 US deaths equals what?

Do we truly know that those death's were strictly due to Covid? No underlying issues, i.e. 94 yrs old, asthma, emphysema, diptheria, rabies, I jumped out of a plane/forgot my parachute, etc.

And yes sir I agree. Let's kick our state wide open.

Do the math, roll it over on your tongue, try to avoid spitting it up and tell me how it would work? Add to it whatever was previously provided $1,200 a time and with PPP "loans:.

My uncle died last week from the rona. He had been living in Huntsville for last 14 years getting 3 hots and a cot. Had Hep-B from sticking needles in his arm. Kidney failure did him in but he was on a vent so he got counted.

Nope, not the case and this morning I heard they're wanting to extend the $600 bonus until the end of September.

Nancy's scheme would cost $34,000,000 for every current death. Multiply that there death rate however you want and then divide it up again and see how palatable it can be made. That's $9,200 for each and every man, woman and child in America. $31,357 for every tax payer.

They aren't finished.

My neighbors granddaughter is getting over $3,000 a month from unemployment and the $600 a week aid, she going to ride it out as long as possible. So many people that can go back to work but do not want to as long as there is Teet money

Training people to look for and expect the government to fix things. Sad.

This Bill, known as the CARES Act was passed almost unanimously by both houses. Besides this "mistake" there was also a lot of bailout of businesses, including some Wall Street brokers that benefited to the tune of millions. Was this relief necessary??? Or a political ploy to garner votes in November, by the incumbent politicians??? Or was it a combination of the both???

Both Parties also got parts of their pork barrels filled.

Now that the second version of the CARES Act is about to passed, it is time for the politicians to answer a few questions. Unfortunately nobody has the balls on either side of the aisle to stop and ask if all of this is needed.

I said from day one that it was mostly a cash grab.

Im not at all saying that the response to the virus was correct at all but I haven't been one to complain, mostly cause im not a complainer and I often can be uninformed and feel we have to trust someone. HOWEVER, this extra 600 week is really causing a problem. BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD!!!!! Small businesses I have first hand knowledge of cant get folks to come back to work. I have thought that if they were offered a job their benefits would stop(at least the 600) but that evidently is not the case if they are "scared" to go back to work.
600 extra is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD!!!!

When I go to a restaurant I make sure leave 50-60% tip, as a tip of the hat for them. I appreciate their hustle. I bet the ones that do want to work are making a killing right now.

Friend owns several tire/wheel shops. He’s having extreme trouble getting people back to work. I told him just to hire other hands. Said it’s not that easy. Apparently good tire guys are at a premium and know they can get work when the free money runs out. One guy told him he’s off till end of July and if he doesn’t want him back then...he’ll just find another job.
Great attitude

If you think $521 a week is a lot guess you live with your parents or have no fixed expenses like a house or vehicle. That is the max unemployment pays.

It's state max PLUS $600 right now - so that's really $1,121 PER WEEK to DO NOTHING. That's insidious.

It's the additional $600 is what's causing people to want to stay home.

Wait until they find out that the unemployment and the $600 is taxable income. A lot of these jokers will owe a bundle to the IRS next year.

"If you think $521 a week is a lot guess you live with your parents or have no fixed expenses like a house or vehicle. That is the max unemployment pays." So truly spot on and to think, people will accept that in lieu of earning wages. Free income without earning it provides cash without dignity. The absence of dignity brings other, unneeded issues to the forefront.

Someone getting the max 521 a week was making prior ABOUT 1000 a week so, no, 1121 with the 600 is not much difference but still enough to keep some at home. However, the big difference is the ones making 300 to 500 or so normally then they get maybe 200 plus 600 so that's roughly double what they normally make and can do nothing for it. Im not wired that way to take that money but a lot are. I know of a day care teacher that only works a few hours a week so her regular unemployment is only 80 a week but with the 600 she gets 680 instead of about 200. Triple money and no work. BAD BAD BAD!!
"Say it aint so, Joe". But I think it is. Please correct me if im wrong.

Actually the state minimum unemployment is $207, then you add the 600 fed on top and get $807.

Actually.
Directly from TWC
" The current minimum Weekly Benefit Amount is $69.00 and the current maximum Weekly Benefit Amount is $521.00. "

Losing ourselves in the details . . .

I agree. For a self admitted arrogant snarky guy, Hud is always right on.

You can take it to the bank.

this story posted about Pat Sajak , IMO leads into the thread here. "enticing folks not to go to work"

https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...tell-out-of-work-americans-to-stay-home/

Nailed it!

If I was an employer, this would be a great time to sort through your employees, find, and take care of your warriors. These are the times where the cream rises to the top.

SA Hunter, once again, such brilliance. Only take back those who are worth it and cull out the rest taking your chances you can find someone more profitable. Too many workers have lost the notion they have to work hard enuff so there bosses can actually turn a profit on their labor.

You bet. That’s pretty much what we’ve done, though we didn’t have much choice.

Definitely an opportunity to be shrewd. Not unethical, just smart about improving your business with the people that have their act together. As for the "chaff"...the world needs ditch diggers too.

We eliminated our dead weight by realignments. First we rated our salesmen and later saleswomen as well. Then the managers would announce while territories were eliminated.

This is my case. I am 51 my wife is older and has Alzheimers, and therefore I rarely get 40 hrs a week due to I have to wait until our care giver arrives, I'm paid hourly and time does not start until I get on the job. However I am receiving the max from the state of 521 plus the $600 from the Feds. for a total of $2,242.00 every two weeks minus the 10% tax so $2,017.80. This is more than I was taking home on average but would be less if I could work 40 hrs and overtime. THIS IS STUPID! I should not be making more than my regular take home pay. I am not hurting becauce my truck is paid off and we paid the house off and have no debt and just utilities and food. I have watched my bank account increase in the last two months as I am not buying my breakfast or other things like I was before. I know we are not the normal case but if I would be paid just what I was making on a regular basis we would still be fine.

I spoke with my boss today and most likely am headed back on June 1st. When this all started I told him to cut me if it would help him keep another guy or two and I would be fine even without the unemployment.. He spoke with all the guys one on one to see how they were and what their situation was and made his dissission who to keep and let go.. Now he is hearing guys complain that they are working 30 hrs and could be making more on unemployment with the $600 the feds were giving. He is having a hard time with this as it was really hard on him on the ones he had to cut not knowing about the $600 and now the ones he kept seem ungrateful that he kept them working. Had he known about the $600 before hand he could have cut more and still ran the jobs we had. This has made him aware of who are team players and not for the future.

I don't know enough about how the economy works to know the answer but I have to believe there's something that could cause the house of cards to suddenly collapse.

Anything beyond regular unemployment should at least be recouped from future Social Security payments. An advance not a universal income payment.

That 1st few sentences was rough lakhota. I know you did not share that for any other reason but to shed light on employment situation. But man if you ever need anything. I don't live in Rockwall anymore did grow up there though.

That's kind of you.

When the show films in Cali, they will pay you for vowels!

Thanks ducknbass.

I was really hoping for the good in this current situation that our country is in thinking that people would start to plan/prepare for the future better however, what I'm hearing is only people wanting more from the government. I guess we will have more grasshoppers and not ants.

This sounds very reasonable.

That's exactly what I am doing. Had one quit that wouldn't have lasted and letting another go tomorrow. Then probably another in a couple weeks.
I'm getting rid of my worst employees and looking to upgrade with better attitudes. I'm also going to bonus my best 3 who worked hard during the time we were shut down. This COVID is actually going to turn out to be a positive for my team.

You got it all figured out doc.

Cull em Doc...

What better way to make socialism look attractive? This is all to see how much the American public will resist it. Conformity will send a message that we will lay down and accept it. I REFUSE to comply! You better be ready! There’s a helluva lot more to come! My father never finished high school, but he said till his dying day that America would be taken over from within by the Socialists without a shot being fired! If you accept testing and inoculation, you are doomed!

Well said and agreed.

Wow!

Sorry about the lack of sugar.

Never met Lakhota in person, but based on his posts, he is a stand up guy.

My kind of business plan.

Social distance ism..
Thats why.

There are lots of Lakhota's. He's just a good one.

Yep. We set everyone up to work from home that had the resources. The ones who's production declined we gave choices of use PTO, fix the production issue or come back to the office. We watched some of them increase production, some just disappeared after using up their PTO and some just fired themselves. We will have the right crew in another week or so. If all goes well we will have made the need for office space go way down. The future for working at home has punched us in the face but adapted quickly.

We dont' need your honesty here sir

Truth over fact, I always say.....

Wait what

Lol, a Joe Biden quote.......

This Friday I'll get a $50 per day bonus for working... covers may and and june, lump sum. bring back the lockdowns I say

I picked cotton for $3 a day.

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Lol, a Joe Biden quote.......[/quote]

Get you some of that economic intercourse

River outfitters finding new employees for the summer getting difficult. Manufacturing facility having difficulty getting works to work on Saturdays.

Cotton pickers were paid 2 cents a pound in the 1950's.

I picked up hay for 8 cents a bale, if ya drove the tractor ya got 5 cents per bale. that's picked up in the field and stacked in the barn. I didn't do that long!

I get paid when I close deals. All about production. I can work 60 hrs/wk or 30 hrs/wk, and close the same amount of deals. Now, not every deal pays the same.

Don’t judge. Maybe Bill was a fat kid back then.

I picked cucumbers $10 a day in Greece (Crete Island) 1985. Lived like a king back then $10 a day.

My grandpa paid per pound to the help. My dad and the other kids got half rate. Grandpa said he did not have to feed the help year around.

I am glad I did not have to field work.

Would they allow you to pick on shares?

Several THFers posited that they needed to get a haircut or a dog license. Just found out that Muffin's groomer is back in business. I'm taking her in tomorrow. Surprise, surprise, serendipity happened. Specs liquor is next door.