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All time high

Posted By: bill oxner

All time high - 02/12/20 08:56 PM


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Posted By: TCM3

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 09:04 PM

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Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 09:06 PM

up
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 09:34 PM

up cool2
Posted By: reeltexan

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 10:01 PM


Hope it keeps going.
Posted By: Pigsicles

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 10:10 PM

The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.
Posted By: Jimbo1

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 10:13 PM

Winning winning winning!
Posted By: Guy

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 10:21 PM

I’m all in.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: All time high - 02/12/20 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Guy
I’m all in.



Me to. I'm 100% equity except for some holdback in my checking account.
Posted By: Marc K

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


Truth
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 02:49 PM

Imagine what will happen when US peeps limit their consumption...


It represents 63% of our gdp
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Guy
I’m all in.



Me to. I'm 100% equity except for some holdback in my checking account.


I haven't worked a day in over a year and have a lot more money than when I retired.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


So go ahead and short this market.Let us know how that works out for you.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 02:59 PM

I am starting to take some chips off the table.

Profit taking started yesterday
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by beaversnipe
I am starting to take some chips off the table.

Profit taking started yesterday

I got a call from our investment person on Monday, we did the same thing.
Posted By: Creekrunner

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 03:17 PM

Financial titans of the THF. loser8
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 05:16 PM

cheers
Posted By: JCB

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 06:38 PM

MAGA!!!
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 08:05 PM

Thank you President Trump!
Posted By: Pigsicles

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


So go ahead and short this market.Let us know how that works out for you.


I got out in time for the dot com bubble and also in the housing bubble, this bubble will burst also, this time is NOT different.
“Know when to hold them and no when to fold them”
Risk/Reward and Fear/Greed, when all the little people are “all in”is when the table will be swept again.
Posted By: DannyB

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:00 PM

I saw a round table discussion video recently. I forgot all the names, but respectable financial people in their fields. They were talking about the Federal Reserve farce on this market. One said, "If you don't see the bubble you won't see the pin."
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:07 PM

Chit man.................the next thing .gov will do is start rolling part of social security into the stock market...................stock market to 100k.


Come on Mannnnnnnnnnnnn......your money is a honey pot.........in Joe Bidens voice. roflmao


Nothing can stop the stock market now
Posted By: redchevy

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:12 PM

Is this stock market a place to find a good deal on rifle stocks? That's about how much I know about it lol
Posted By: Superduty

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:22 PM

I thought this was about takewhatyoucan,.... smile ani
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Superduty
I thought this was about takewhatyoucan,.... smile ani



What you saying Boy?
Posted By: Superduty

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted by Superduty
I thought this was about takewhatyoucan,.... smile ani



What you saying Boy?


Wait, my apologies, I meant "Normal as can be"



cheers
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:39 PM

Just messing with ya................no weed in 3 years here.
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


I don't understand this mentality either, not by a long stretch.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jgraider
Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


I don't understand this mentality either, not by a long stretch.



You don't understand QE?
Posted By: Pigsicles

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by redchevy
Is this stock market a place to find a good deal on rifle stocks? That's about how much I know about it lol


Buy low, sell high and repeat. Simple concept really.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Superduty
Originally Posted by takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted by Superduty
I thought this was about takewhatyoucan,.... smile ani



What you saying Boy?


Wait, my apologies, I meant "Normal as can be"



cheers


It's NORML an acronym for, National Organization Reform Marijuana Laws cool2 smile ani
Posted By: swampthang

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Pigsicles
Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


So go ahead and short this market.Let us know how that works out for you.


I got out in time for the dot com bubble and also in the housing bubble, this bubble will burst also, this time is NOT different.
“Know when to hold them and no when to fold them”
Risk/Reward and Fear/Greed, when all the little people are “all in”is when the table will be swept again.

Whats the bubble and what is the date it will burst?
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Originally Posted by Guy
I’m all in.



Me to. I'm 100% equity except for some holdback in my checking account.


I haven't worked a day in over a year and have a lot more money than when I retired.


Me Too! I'm about 90% in long, but that other 10% changes daily if not hourly up or down. Been killing it every day scalping and day trading on the side.
Posted By: Superduty

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Originally Posted by Superduty
Originally Posted by takewhatyoucan64
Originally Posted by Superduty
I thought this was about takewhatyoucan,.... smile ani



What you saying Boy?


Wait, my apologies, I meant "Normal as can be"



cheers




It's NORML an acronym for, National Organization Reform Marijuana Laws cool2 smile ani


I am blaming it on spellcheck.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by DannyB
I saw a round table discussion video recently. I forgot all the names, but respectable financial people in their fields. They were talking about the Federal Reserve farce on this market. One said, "If you don't see the bubble you won't see the pin."


I rode through every crash and dip since the early 1980s. I'll do fine through the next one and probably make money on it. This bull run has lasted so long that there is an entire generation throwing money in it who have never lived through a recession or seen a market crash in their adult lives. Other than the stoners that already gambled it all away on cannabis stocks, making money in the market has been stupid easy over the last 5 years. Much of that young generation of investors will be in for a real rough time and likely make a lot of poor decisions with those investments when that crash and recession does come.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Originally Posted by DannyB
I saw a round table discussion video recently. I forgot all the names, but respectable financial people in their fields. They were talking about the Federal Reserve farce on this market. One said, "If you don't see the bubble you won't see the pin."


I rode through every crash and dip since the early 1980s. I'll do fine through the next one and probably make money on it. This bull run has lasted so long that there is an entire generation throwing money in it who have never lived through a recession or seen a market crash in their adult lives. Other than the stoners that already gambled it all away on cannabis stocks, making money in the market has been stupid easy over the last 5 years. Much of that young generation of investors will be in for a real rough time and likely make a lot of poor decisions with those investments when that crash and recession does come.


This


Plus I have to add the impatience of new generation investors.
Back in the day, I relied on 1 yearly statement, and looooong was considered 20-30 years.
Now, folks checking daily and loooong is considered 1-5 years.
I still have majority of my stocks bought pre euro currency (20 plus years) and the dividends alone have been welcome.
I also never understood folks going all in on wedding day, when they can barely afford it. It will take years to recuperate that money lost over 10 hours.

Posted By: Guy

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Pigsicles
I got out in time for the dot com bubble and also in the housing bubble, this bubble will burst also, this time is NOT different.
“Know when to hold them and no when to fold them”
Risk/Reward and Fear/Greed, when all the little people are “all in”is when the table will be swept again.

I been all in since 1990. If you can time the market you are smarter than anyone, I can’t, I don’t even try. I don’t believe you can time the market, odds are against you seeing how the market goes up more than it goes down.

To me it boils down to what you can stomach. One thing I have always said, I would rather be in the market when goes down than not being in it when it goes up. The day the market does not go up long term, we are all in trouble anyway, the world is probably coming to an end. I said these same words last bear market March 4 2009, the market hit rock bottom, and it was doom and gloom back then.

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/623738/1
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: All time high - 02/13/20 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Pigsicles
Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


So go ahead and short this market.Let us know how that works out for you.


I got out in time for the dot com bubble and also in the housing bubble, this bubble will burst also, this time is NOT different.
“Know when to hold them and no when to fold them”
Risk/Reward and Fear/Greed, when all the little people are “all in”is when the table will be swept again.

Whats the bubble and what is the date it will burst?

There is no bubble........those who try to time the market or invest with emotion are the victims .........and somebody always is, aren't they?
Posted By: Guy

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 01:57 AM

One thing I have always believed is that the market gets smarter over time, and becomes more efficient, and this takes volatility out of the market and minimizes the probability of big corrections. Every crash going back to 1929, there were lessons learned to avoid them, or the severity of them. Financial forecasting models get better each year, volumes continue to grow, all this makes markets more efficient every passing day.

1929 lesson learned is that the government needs to step in and lend money to risk takers, there were investors back then ready to "buy" but no private bank would lend money. Black Monday 1989, (I was actually working for Shearson Lehman Hutton Down Town Dallas back then part time while going to school and saw the melt down first hand), it was computer trading drove the crash... Lessons learned, not to happen again. The last crash, driven by mortgage companies taking too much risk, lesson learned... I'm sure the market will teach us more lessons, but the day there is little risk in the market, there will also be less return.
Posted By: DannyB

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Guy
Black Monday 1989, (I was actually working for Shearson Lehman Hutton Down Town Dallas back then part time while going to school and saw the melt down first hand), it was computer trading drove the crash...


Computer trading had nothing whatsoever to do with October 19th, 1987. We were still on 286s. The NYSE was still elbow to elbow with people. Human trading/order placement is non-existent now. There are only a few, if any, "specialists" or market makers left.

Now the trading is by computers, the so-called "algos." For over ten years it has been referred to as HFT, High Frequency Trading. Computers literally read news headlines and place trades. Computers are trading against each other, thousands of trades per second in all markets. The fastest computer wins.
Posted By: Guy

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by DannyB
Originally Posted by Guy
Black Monday 1989, (I was actually working for Shearson Lehman Hutton Down Town Dallas back then part time while going to school and saw the melt down first hand), it was computer trading drove the crash...


Computer trading had nothing whatsoever to do with October 19th, 1987. .

Not sure what you are saying with 286.. But yes it was 1987 not 1989, but I did as quick google search, computer trading #2 reason behind the crash, #1 over sold market. Provide links to your position on this.

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/trading-investing/black-monday/
Posted By: DannyB

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by Guy
Originally Posted by DannyB
Originally Posted by Guy
Black Monday 1989, (I was actually working for Shearson Lehman Hutton Down Town Dallas back then part time while going to school and saw the melt down first hand), it was computer trading drove the crash...


Computer trading had nothing whatsoever to do with October 19th, 1987. .

Not sure what you are saying with 286.. But yes it was 1987 not 1989, but I did as quick google search, computer trading #2 reason behind the crash, #1 over sold market. Provide links to your position on this.

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/trading-investing/black-monday/


286 was the processor speed, capability, of the computer. Your phone has mega times that now.

As far as links, just do some searches. "HFT, algos, etc." Computers have replaced hundreds if not thousands of people on the NYSE floor. NYSE isn't the only one. I forgot some of the others. One of the biggest firms with humans went down on 911. I forgot the name, but think they are barely still there, but with computers doing the trading.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/high-frequency-trading.asp
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 04:44 AM

On them hft super computers, the real estate closest to wall street gotten all of a sudden real expensive, all that to gain a few micro seconds. Hundreds of computers making small bets, but at the end of the day, constantly making tens of thousands.
Posted By: Guy

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by DannyB
Originally Posted by Guy
Originally Posted by DannyB
Originally Posted by Guy
Black Monday 1989, (I was actually working for Shearson Lehman Hutton Down Town Dallas back then part time while going to school and saw the melt down first hand), it was computer trading drove the crash...


Computer trading had nothing whatsoever to do with October 19th, 1987. .

Not sure what you are saying with 286.. But yes it was 1987 not 1989, but I did as quick google search, computer trading #2 reason behind the crash, #1 over sold market. Provide links to your position on this.

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/trading-investing/black-monday/


286 was the processor speed, capability, of the computer. Your phone has mega times that now.

As far as links, just do some searches. "HFT, algos, etc." Computers have replaced hundreds if not thousands of people on the NYSE floor. NYSE isn't the only one. I forgot some of the others. One of the biggest firms with humans went down on 911. I forgot the name, but think they are barely still there, but with computers doing the trading.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/high-frequency-trading.asp

Your link says nothing about Black Monday and 286 PC's had nothing to do with it, lol.
Posted By: ntxtrapper

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Originally Posted by DannyB
I saw a round table discussion video recently. I forgot all the names, but respectable financial people in their fields. They were talking about the Federal Reserve farce on this market. One said, "If you don't see the bubble you won't see the pin."


I rode through every crash and dip since the early 1980s. I'll do fine through the next one and probably make money on it. This bull run has lasted so long that there is an entire generation throwing money in it who have never lived through a recession or seen a market crash in their adult lives. Other than the stoners that already gambled it all away on cannabis stocks, making money in the market has been stupid easy over the last 5 years. Much of that young generation of investors will be in for a real rough time and likely make a lot of poor decisions with those investments when that crash and recession does come.


This is how I'm retiring at age 48 in a few months. All money is pulled and safe from any crash.
Posted By: DannyB

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 05:25 AM

Guy, I'm getting error messages. I don't know how to stack up X number of messages back.

My link explained HFT trading. beaversnipe explained it even better. I didn't see the need to get that deep at that point in the conversation. High Frequency Trading is all that there is anymore.

There are firms that have literally spent millions on real estate leases to get a millisecond closer to the "main frame" of the NYSE. It is insane.
Posted By: swampthang

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 05:34 AM

HFT,algos,automated trading, etc have a "presence" in the market but they are still not what causes stock prices to move in a particular direction. At least not over the course of several weeks/months.
Posted By: DannyB

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by swampthang
HFT,algos,automated trading, etc have a "presence" in the market but they are still not what causes stock prices to move in a particular direction. At least not over the course of several weeks/months.


Jerome Powell is the reason for market action over periods between one minute and one quarter. However, I suppose fundamentals like this are what counts. I figure somebody will come along and accuse ZH of making up these statistics. I'm sure they made it up. Anyway, go ahead and jump on Tesla. See if the ride takes you to retirement.

I guess we'll see in the morning how many more Chinese are off work in the second largest economy in the world, supplying components for what little manufacturing we have going.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-02-06/heres-something-makes-absolutely-no-sense
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by DannyB
Originally Posted by swampthang
HFT,algos,automated trading, etc have a "presence" in the market but they are still not what causes stock prices to move in a particular direction. At least not over the course of several weeks/months.


Jerome Powell is the reason for market action over periods between one minute and one quarter. However, I suppose fundamentals like this are what counts. I figure somebody will come along and accuse ZH of making up these statistics. I'm sure they made it up. Anyway, go ahead and jump on Tesla. See if the ride takes you to retirement.

I guess we'll see in the morning how many more Chinese are off work in the second largest economy in the world, supplying components for what little manufacturing we have going.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-02-06/heres-something-makes-absolutely-no-sense




Anyone who tries to ride one particular growth stock to retirement is a dumba$$.....I agree with your perspective swampthang. HFT has caused more pronounced volatility and frequency, nothing more IMO.
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Sniper John
Originally Posted by DannyB
I saw a round table discussion video recently. I forgot all the names, but respectable financial people in their fields. They were talking about the Federal Reserve farce on this market. One said, "If you don't see the bubble you won't see the pin."


I rode through every crash and dip since the early 1980s. I'll do fine through the next one and probably make money on it. This bull run has lasted so long that there is an entire generation throwing money in it who have never lived through a recession or seen a market crash in their adult lives. Other than the stoners that already gambled it all away on cannabis stocks, making money in the market has been stupid easy over the last 5 years. Much of that young generation of investors will be in for a real rough time and likely make a lot of poor decisions with those investments when that crash and recession does come.


This is how I'm retiring at age 48 in a few months. All money is pulled and safe from any crash.

Keep in mind you will have to create your own paycheck for 35 years........cash will not get you there unless it’s a very big pile of it......pension plans ran by metropolitan democratic infested cities are failing at an alarming rate....I hope you have a plan that addresses these risks as well as inflation and taxes......
Posted By: Pigsicles

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Sniper John
Originally Posted by DannyB
I saw a round table discussion video recently. I forgot all the names, but respectable financial people in their fields. They were talking about the Federal Reserve farce on this market. One said, "If you don't see the bubble you won't see the pin."


I rode through every crash and dip since the early 1980s. I'll do fine through the next one and probably make money on it. This bull run has lasted so long that there is an entire generation throwing money in it who have never lived through a recession or seen a market crash in their adult lives. Other than the stoners that already gambled it all away on cannabis stocks, making money in the market has been stupid easy over the last 5 years. Much of that young generation of investors will be in for a real rough time and likely make a lot of poor decisions with those investments when that crash and recession does come.


This is how I'm retiring at age 48 in a few months. All money is pulled and safe from any crash.


Amazing to me that all the perma bulls here don’t mention a persons age in their investment risk appetite.
I have been retired for 8 years, made a boat load of money in the market, took more risk early in life when I had time to recover from down drafts in the markets.
I keep a small core position invested but the nest egg is diversified in multiple asset classes including cash safely on the sidelines.
When market gains are directly corresponding to the nightly amount of money the Fed is pumping into the Repo market and not companies technicals and fundamentals then the market is no longer functioning as a true price discovery mechanism.
Posted By: Paluxy

Re: All time high - 02/14/20 01:00 PM

The Fed farce started around 07-08, thought the companies actual performance is what has been sustaining the market. Historical economic models seem to be somewhat useless now.
Posted By: Pigsicles

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 12:59 AM

Could get ugly Monday morning, futures are down 400 pts.
Interesting that Friday’s market loss came after the Feds smallest overnight Repo injection of only $25 Billion. I bet the Fed cranks it up tonight. Be interesting to see if the central banks can print enough to stem the tide of the virus down draft.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 03:15 AM

Dow 30 Mar 20 28,563.5 28,750.0 28,529.5 -417.5 -1.44% 22:14:55
S&P 500 Mar 20 3,290.38 3,311.25 3,285.88 -48.87 -1.46% 22:14:49
Nasdaq Mar 20 9,266.75 9,362.25 9,254.00 -191.25 -2.02% 22:14:55
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Dow 30 Mar 20 28,563.5 28,750.0 28,529.5 -417.5 -1.44% 22:14:55
S&P 500 Mar 20 3,290.38 3,311.25 3,285.88 -48.87 -1.46% 22:14:49
Nasdaq Mar 20 9,266.75 9,362.25 9,254.00 -191.25 -2.02% 22:14:55

Are these predictions a month from now?
Posted By: swampthang

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by Sniper John
Dow 30 Mar 20 28,563.5 28,750.0 28,529.5 -417.5 -1.44% 22:14:55
S&P 500 Mar 20 3,290.38 3,311.25 3,285.88 -48.87 -1.46% 22:14:49
Nasdaq Mar 20 9,266.75 9,362.25 9,254.00 -191.25 -2.02% 22:14:55

Are these predictions a month from now?


No they're the coordinates for the hidden gold/National Treasure written on the back of the Declaration Of Independence.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by Sniper John
Dow 30 Mar 20 28,563.5 28,750.0 28,529.5 -417.5 -1.44% 22:14:55
S&P 500 Mar 20 3,290.38 3,311.25 3,285.88 -48.87 -1.46% 22:14:49
Nasdaq Mar 20 9,266.75 9,362.25 9,254.00 -191.25 -2.02% 22:14:55

Are these predictions a month from now?


Futures expiry date. The expiration dates for U.S. stock and stock index futures contracts fall on the third Friday of every third month. That was cut and pasted from a real time futures chart. Sorry about that. I did not even notice the date on the chart or I would have wiped it off the post. With this crazy market, unknown impact from the novel coronavirus, bernie possibly the dem presidential candidate, the media blowing up negative market headlines for ratings and political reasons, and young or inexperienced investor fears, it's going to be impossible to know when the market finds a bottom on this one. But it shall pass.
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 10:05 AM

Man 720 pts and 10 Treasury yield at nearly a record low....oil sinking and gold to the moon. Gonna be a fun day
Posted By: Pigsicles

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by swampthang
Originally Posted by Pigsicles
The Fed prints and the market goes up. Looks like debt doesn’t matter anymore until it does.


So go ahead and short this market.Let us know how that works out for you.


Preservation of capital works out just fine. Live to fight another day.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 01:17 PM

Dang. The democrats are loving it.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: All time high - 02/24/20 02:15 PM

What goes up must come down.
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