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MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike

Posted By: ChadTRG42

MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 09:47 PM

These new balls have a higher BC!!!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-say-how-or-why/?utm_term=.5918a307e789

MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike, but doesn’t say how or why

Major League Baseball on Thursday confirmed for the first time something pitchers in the sport have been saying for more than two years: that changes to the composition and/or behavior of the baseball are responsible, at least in part, for the surge in home runs since the middle of the 2015 season. What remains unexplained, however, is what exactly those changes were, or why they occurred.

A committee of 10 scientists and data specialists, formed by Commissioner Rob Manfred, concluded in a report released Thursday that home run surge can be explained, at least partially, by “a change in the aerodynamic properties” of the ball — specifically, “reduced drag for given launch conditions.”

The home run surge “is not due to either a livelier, ‘juiced’ ball, or any change in batter or pitcher behavior,” the report concluded. “It seems, instead, to have arisen from a decrease in the ball’s drag properties, which cause it to carry further than previously, given the same set of initial conditions — exit velocity, launch and spray angle, and spin. So there is indirect evidence that the ball has changed, but we don’t yet know how.”

“The great mystery is: What in the world has happened that we’ve had a small change in drag — it isn’t large — but one that seems to be systematic enough that it’s affecting offense,” said committee member Lloyd Smith, a professor of mechanical and materials engineering at Washington State University. “We’ve done every test you could imagine, and we just couldn’t nail it down. It’s in there. It’s in the data someplace. But it’s going to take a lot more time and effort [to solve].

“Just to figure out the ‘what’ — is drag there or not? — we had to measure the drag of 22 dozen baseballs. And this was by itself a solid month of two technicians in a lab firing baseballs through the air and seeing how their drag changes.”

Though the committee was unable to prove the exact cause of the reduced drag — the “why” — it offered several hypotheses, including that the rubber “pill” at the ball’s core may be more centered in recent years, or that the ball may be staying rounder.

According to Baseball-Reference.com, MLB’s home run rate grew in every season from 2014 (0.86 per team-game) to 2017 (1.26), before falling slightly this season (1.13 through Wednesday).

The committee’s findings supported Manfred’s contention, made repeatedly the past few years, that nothing material had changed in the manufacturing or the specifications of the baseball. The committee said it found no changes to the size, weight, seam height or coefficient of restitution (or “bounciness”) that would explain the increase.

According to Smith, natural variations in the materials used to produce baseballs, including wool yarn and leather covers stitched by hand, give each ball a higher degree of variance in properties than would be found in, say, golf balls.

“While it cannot be ruled out that small year-to-year variations in these properties might be a minor contributing factor to the home run surge said,” the report said, “these changes are within normal and expected manufacturing variation.”

[In baseball, launch angle just keeps going up, up, up]

Analytics websites began noticing the uptick around midseason in 2015, and some pitchers, most prominently Houston Astros ace Justin Verlander, have been outspoken about what they saw as a clear change in the feel, look and/or behavior of the ball.

“Major League Baseball wants to put on a show,” Astros left-hander Dallas Keuchel said during last fall’s World Series, which saw a record 25 homers hit in a seven-game series. “Honestly, I think the balls are juiced.”

Manfred commissioned the study in August 2017, bringing together physicists, mathematicians, engineers and statisticians, who examined Statcast data, tested and compared the properties of game-used balls from 2012-17, and inspected a Rawlings manufacturing site in Costa Rica where the balls are made. They also considered “changes in player behavior” — including the trend toward hitters swinging with an increased launch angle — as a potential factor, but ruled that out.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 10:22 PM

popcorn
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:02 PM

So Verlander was right?
Posted By: KK30RAR

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:14 PM

There’s a article on cbs sports that some of baseballs top stars are not doing their part of the publicity for baseball to make it a more popular game manfred and mlb probably trying to keep the game more interesting
Posted By: Old Rabbit

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:20 PM

Red Dots or Hot Dots and put them in the freezer for a while. It worked many years ago for softballs.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:23 PM

Next they will make stealing first base legal.
Posted By: KK30RAR

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Next they will make stealing first base legal.
there already going to try this in minor league baseball on passed balls
Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by KK30RAR
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Next they will make stealing first base legal.
there already going to try this in minor league baseball on passed balls


Yep starting in the Atlantic coast league.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:55 PM

Told ya it was rigged and people still spend their hard earned money supporting them. stir
Posted By: nsmike

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:55 PM

The study concentrated on the ball after it is hit, reduced drag will change how the ball breaks when pitched, I'm guessing it causes more mistake pitches that get launched also.
Posted By: Stratgolfer

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:58 PM

Commish Manfred said that in earlier interviews this season. He wasn't keeping any secrets or part of a conspiracy. I saw him interviewed a few times where he stated basically what the study said.
Posted By: tex70

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/12/19 11:59 PM

You can basically steal first now on a passed ball third strike, never understood that rule
Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by tex70
You can basically steal first now on a passed ball third strike, never understood that rule


Now no matter the count on a pass ball you can take off for first.
Posted By: GusWayne

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 02:16 AM

I’m a basball lifer

MLB is dying on the vine and I’d bet they are trying anything “behind the scenes” the make the game more exciting

They hate rule changes

It’s a different world, attention spans are short.

Homeruns bring excitement

They need to speed it up and I know there are some ideas in the works
Posted By: Scott W

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Herbie Hancock
Originally Posted by tex70
You can basically steal first now on a passed ball third strike, never understood that rule


Now no matter the count on a pass ball you can take off for first.

I too am a baseball lifer but this will change it for me. No way this sticks.
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 03:02 AM

Nobody want to see 1-0, boring, pitchers duals. I believe MLB also flattened the seams on the baseball some, which obviously results in less drag, breaking balls don't break as much, etc......advantage to the hitter. They want to see balls flying out of the stadium, and that's also why the owners back in the steroid era knew all about it and didn't give a crap......it put butts in the seats. When they started rebuilding all of these new stadiums they moved the fences in some as well.
Posted By: ntxtrapper

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 03:10 AM

They lost me forever with the 1994 strike. "Sorry, I can't survive on 1.2 million a year" didn't sit well with me.
Posted By: BA223

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
So Verlander was right?


Yes. Seems he was.
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
The juiced baseball theory has been around for a few years now, he is just the latest, and highest profile pitcher, to say something.

Some people are suggesting that the stitches are fractionally lower profile than they used to be, which limits the amount of spin pitchers can get on their pitches, and also makes the ball travel farther when hit.


confused2
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 04:54 AM

Life is one big Lie.
Posted By: TEXASLEFTY

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 05:17 AM

Go Rangers!!!
Posted By: Simple Searcher

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 12:17 PM

I do not see a problem with changing the ball. I am sure it has changed many times throughout the years, basketball and football have.
Posted By: upsslim

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 01:14 PM

The change in drag may be the reason all these pitchers are throwing 95 to over 100 MPH fastballs. I remember when very few threw 95 MPH. Now almost every pitcher throws over 95 MPH. You don't hear them complaining about it.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by upsslim
The change in drag may be the reason all these pitchers are throwing 95 to over 100 MPH fastballs. I remember when very few threw 95 MPH. Now almost every pitcher throws over 95 MPH. You don't hear them complaining about it.



Players used to smoke in the dugouts and look like Fernando Valenzuela. Players now train year around and are in much better shape, leading to faster pitchers and better hitters.

Just my 2cents
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by upsslim
The change in drag may be the reason all these pitchers are throwing 95 to over 100 MPH fastballs. I remember when very few threw 95 MPH. Now almost every pitcher throws over 95 MPH. You don't hear them complaining about it.


Well articulated.
Posted By: cmc

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 09:46 PM

Of course Verlander was right. I mean we are talking about a guy who has had a baseball in his hand for almost 40 years, I’d think he’d know if something changed as do all the rest of them. Look at the numbers it’s obvious, look at the numbers in AAA when they started using the same ball versus the old ball. 90% of the players are the same players that played in MLB last year yet we are on pace for 1000 more home runs. All these guys didn’t suddenly learn to hit.

As for the rule changes I’ve seen some of them already in the minors being used. My kid is in the minor league system of the Astros and one of their games went to extras the other day and they started the 10th inning with a runner on second no outs. First pitch was a bunt the runner moved over and two pitches later base hit run scores game over. I don’t know if I like it but twice now I’ve seen it end a game in the 10th and that’s what baseball wants so I’m betting that rule would be the first to be implemented if any.

This week started the stealing first base, mound moved back, and allowed one foul ball on a bunt with two strikes.
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by cmc
Of course Verlander was right. I mean we are talking about a guy who has had a baseball in his hand for almost 40 years, I’d think he’d know if something changed as do all the rest of them. Look at the numbers it’s obvious, look at the numbers in AAA when they started using the same ball versus the old ball. 90% of the players are the same players that played in MLB last year yet we are on pace for 1000 more home runs. All these guys didn’t suddenly learn to hit.

As for the rule changes I’ve seen some of them already in the minors being used. My kid is in the minor league system of the Astros and one of their games went to extras the other day and they started the 10th inning with a runner on second no outs. First pitch was a bunt the runner moved over and two pitches later base hit run scores game over. I don’t know if I like it but twice now I’ve seen it end a game in the 10th and that’s what baseball wants so I’m betting that rule would be the first to be implemented if any.

This week started the stealing first base, mound moved back, and allowed one foul ball on a bunt with two strikes.


I do think the trend of hitters preferring to hit a dinger than anything else, and strikeouts not being frowned upon as much as they used to be has something to do with the uptick in home runs. But, the ball changing, as well as pitchers throwing harder, is more the reason.

I don’t blame pitchers for complaining. I don’t blame MLB for trying to increase offense (or pitchers complaining about that, either). But MLB being somewhat coy about it is kinda BS.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/13/19 11:00 PM

I like it.
Posted By: cmc

Re: MLB finally admits changes to ball itself fueled home run spike - 07/14/19 12:12 AM

There has been an uptick in homeruns over the last few years but this year is going to be like no other year. The science of baseball has changed and the science behind the athletes body and movements is getting better every year but the increase was steady and now there’s a huge spike and that’s not from bigger stronger players that’s a change somewhere else.
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