Snake avoidance clinic in Weatherford,Texas

August 7th in Weatherford, Texas. Starts at 7:00am and ends when the last dog is done. I can be contacted here via pm or you can pm Stinkbelly as he is hosting the clinic. Hope to see y'all there.

I'll try and make it again this season Wayne, if not good luck with it.

I'm curious & ignorant to the subject. Does this train a dog to be 'shy' or 'aware' of ANY snake or just rattlers? My biggest concern is Copperheads. Will this help our dog for an encounter w/them?

I would love to see you again Guy. If you make it down this time I will take a little bit of a break and spend a little more time visiting with you.

I thank you for the question. It gives me an opportunity to blab which happens to be my real specialty. The training will make your dog shy away from all snakes. I use a black and white lead rope during training. Most dogs will shy away from it at the end of the training. I figured they are experiencing the same thing a human does when we see a snake and it takes a half a second to process what we are seeing. When the pattern comes clear we get a little start.

We can train all dogs from pets to hunters. I have trained from 5 pound dogs up to 180 pound dog and all in between. Hope to see you there.

What's the cost?

Thanks

$40 per dog

$40 is a great price. I need to get this done for my lab. Id feel a little safer for him when hes with me where we hunt. How many spots do you have left? Do you need a deposit to hold a spot? thanks

No deposit is needed.

Great news I will have he rattler vaccine fir the clinic.

Wayne, I will most likely come out to the clinic. What will the clinic and the vaccine cost me?

The training is $40 and the vaccine is $20 per dose. Glad to see your coming out. It looks as if we are going to have a rather large THF turn out. I like it!!!

is there any danger of making a dog "collar wise" or afraid of the e-collar if that dog is already collar conditioned?

Not if it is done right. There are no guarantees in anything we do in training. I have had no troubles with making them collar wise yet. Be it your going to do the training once or twice a year I would not worry about it. Retriever training with a collar is usually with a very low setting. The snake avoidance is with the collar turned all the way up. I beleive they have to different experiences.

An example. I have been hit with 220 volts and 110 volts. I have stuck my tounge on a 9 volt battery and used my hand to test ecollars. None of it was fun but none compared to what I went through the other day. Two different experiences completely. We had mandatory taser training the other day. It wasn't mandatory to get gases but my partner volunteered. To save a longer story I had to because he was doing it.

Ooooooohhhhh my godddddd!!!'. Without a doubt that sucked and left a lifelong imprint on my brain. If you want me to cluck like a chicken, point a taser at me. You want me to paint your house and scrub the toilet, you got it point a taser at me.

So I would say if dine right don't worry about it.

WOW...what a partner I am doing everything I can to make it out there the 7th. Thanks for doing what you do. This is one of my biggest fears.

Oh I didn't do it BECAUSE he is my partner. The problem is his desk is next to mine and we are in constant competition. Who made the most fingerprint identifications this month ect. I was not about to spend the last few years of my career sitting next to a loud mouth calling me a B**** every morning. I would never get the upper hand again. Trust me the taser was not fun at all. It locks your entire body up and waves of terrible electricity are flooding through your body. Nothing compared to giving him the amunition to jack with me over every cup of coffee every morning. See you there Judd!!

Hey Wayne,

I came over to the Gun Dogs section to find you're user name so I could PM ya about when you're headed this way again. BINGO! I'll see ya there.

Same place as last year?

Good Deal. BTW way I was going to comment on the photo I saw of how you grilled your doves last year. Never thought of stuffing a whole jalepeno with cheese then wrapping them together. Sort of like a jalepeno popper and a dove all in the same whack! See you there!!

Yes sir, good stuff. Look forward to seein' ya again...

My bag is packed and ready to roll up north!

you are crazy my wife just said poor snake i said rattlers are ony good for one thing makin boots

That is my friendly snake

Now how do you make sure those suckers dont get loose on stinkbelly's property? have you ever lost one at a training?

That all depends on your definition of "Lost". Misplaced for a little while yes, lost No!!

Wayne sounds like your gonna have a good turn out in Weatherford. I know from my experience Wayne has done a great job with educating the dog to avoid the snakes and answer all questions from owners. I have seen him do dogs 6 or 7 different times in different sititions until he is convinced they will look to avoid the snakes. Verses all the dogs line and they get one chance to get the picture.

where at in weatherford?thanks

Thank you for the compliment. Nice to hear.

pm sent

Wish I could make it this year. Way too much on the plate right now.

I enjoyed it last year and I can tell you it has worked a couple of times this past season.

Wal1809 does a good job and is well worth it. Stinkbelly's a great host.

I'd like some information on where this is.

PM sent

I would like to get some directions and information also please

brownwoodbowhunter I sent you a PM.

OK the fun is over!! Went to Galveston fishing the north shore line on a 3 foot deep grass beds. We beat the crap out of the reds this weekend. Threw back probably 24 reds on Saturday. The fun is over and the clinics begin. I am ready to get started. I started getting the bus ready last night. My wife will have the groceries and the what nots by Thursday and hope to get on the road by 2:00 PM Friday and arrive at 7:00 PM. Get set up and get to work.

How long do you think the clinic will last?

Last year I was there until I believe 2 pm. There is really no way to know for I have no idea how many dogs are going to show. If you are running late just call me at 713 530 9182 and we will try our best to hang in there for you.

My intentions are to start hitting it at 7AM and stay on track until I am done. As fast as possible. It is a long drive home, I had trouble last year. Fortunately I will be in the bus so I can pull over and take a nap if needed.

Where is the clinic being held at in Weatherford? I have not given my dog the snake shots - you said you had them available - do you give the shots or advice on how to give them? Thanks. I work until noon on Saturday, so I hope to see you at the clinic after that.

I would also like some information as far as directions and information on the event. I took my lab to a snake training last year but due to all the bad reports of snakes this year would like to get him trained again to make sure he gets the point. He got his snake vaccine last year and I'd also like to get him another one this year. Please send me a PM when you get a chance.

Man I'm so busy these days, not sure I can make it. But I just saw that pic Wayne, classic!!

Really tho, Wayne will do you guys right. He will cut the fangs off the snake, tape it up, and that snake will be pizzed off, then he lets it strike him all it wants like the pic above. Wayne never told me this I promise, but I took that as his way of standing behind his work, if he is not worried about the snake biting him, you should not worry about it biting your dog.

I took these pix last year, them snakes don’t like Wayne.

Hello Guy kewl pics!!! I took your advice and have a system we are implementing now. Whwn you register you get a numbered chip which is white. That is your dog's order. If you get the vaccine you get another color chip too.

That way if your in line you can ask what number dog is up and you will kind of know how long before your next.

Wayne,

Let me ask a dumb question just so I know what I am getting in to. I just recently CC'd Zeke. Is there anything that can go in regards to what I have already done with him?

Hello Jason. I don't believe your question is stupid at all. I appreciate your concerns. To answer the question yes things can go wrong if not done properly. It is a matter of all the senses of the dog being concentrated on the snake and making him think the snake it doing the dirty deed.

In a training setting the collar is turned up just enough to be effective with the dog. In snake avoidance it is turned all the way up so the wow factor is much greater.

Also in training you give a command and a correction for a refusal. There are no commands in snake avoidance. It is simply the dog discovers snake, the senses are focused and bam. So it is really two different situations.

Now for everyone to read and pay mind to, I can tell if a dog has been trained with a heavy hand or been trained with too much collar. If a dog is not excited when they are putting the collar on then I believe the trainer has been heavy on the collar. It does make it harder to differntiate (for the dog) the difference between the snake avoidance and training.

My male is very soft. He does not like the collar at all. To combat this I put it on him and run fun bumpers without the collar turned on. Just fun. He still has trouble with the collar. It has gotton better but he will never get over being afraid of the collar. I took him for a 6 week specific training when he was a pup. That trainer is way too hard on thr collar. I didn't recognize him when I picked him up. I was sick when I found out this had been done to him.

Come on out to the clinic and we can discuss what and how your pup needs to be trained. I believe we can get it done right.

Great question and good response, thanks for asking because I wondered the same thing.

One more question, does this make them avoid all snakes or is it mainly a rattlesnake deal. I assume all snakes scents are different and that is why I ask.

Also, I don't plan on dove hunting and not real sure about teal hunting her mainly because of snakes and temps. Is it something that is a good idea anyway?

I think what your doing is great so by no means take this as I am downing what you are doing or doubting the effectiveness.

Hello Judd This training will make them avoid all snakes. If you will watch the dog after the training, and watch the dog whan he sees my lead rope. It is 20 foot black and white checkered rope. They figure out really quick it is not a snake but in most dogs you can see they are taking a closer look when they see it.

So far as hunting I do it. I vaccinate and train them prior to the season. So far as temps go I take water with me. If we are dove hunting we put the big marine coolers in the back of the truck full of water. When we get there we dunk the dogs.

I make sure they have drinking water and most importantly watch their tounge. If it is hanging flat and wide like an upside down lightbulb get them in the dunkin tub and leave them. Take them out of the loop for a little while. I let them retrieve even if the bird falls close by. It is so much more fun seeing pup putting it al together.

WAL1809, I really appreciate your willingness to answer all the questions for everyone. It makes me feel like my dog will be in good hands tomorrow.

Oh ya, I need a PM on where Stinkbelly's place is. I come from around Jacksboro.

Thanks

See your dogs in the morning.

Jason B I sent you a PM.

I thank you both for the very nice compliments!! See y'all in a few hours.

Left the house at 2 and got here at 11. Wow tht was a haul. Bus trouble! Snake trouble! Tell y'all about it in the morning. Y'all be safe on your way out. O am catching some sleep right now.

Coffee is on and I am about ready to head out there. See yall in about an hour

Good training. Thanks Wayne.

We had a good turn out and finished up before it got too hot. Wayne did a great job again this year.

I spoke to Wayne and we are planning on doing the snake avoidance training the first Saturday of August again next year. I hope to see you all there.

I am glad this one was closer to my house so I could come out and meet a few more people from on here. I bet Wayne is snoring like a big dog in the bus rite now.

We got home at 9:30 tonight. Tough trip but I loved it. Going to stink's is a highlight for us. Finally figured the generator fuel filters were ok. The generator was getting too hit and shutting off. We parked under am over pass in the shade and got thr gen going again. In the shade it was able to keep up. We just had to wait it out and watch a movie until the evening cooled off a bit.
Thank you all for coming!!!!!

Thanks Wayne and it was nice to meet you today.

Also, again thanks for answering my questions and introducing my dawg to lightening I would be shocked if she goes near a snake for a while

Glad you had a little better trip home than you did coming up. See you next year!

Thank uou for coming up Judd it is nice to put a face to a
name.

Several from the forum showed up. I got to meet Blaze! She is a smart dog. She wound up telling Sniperjohn "I will be waiting in the truck when y'all get done"!!! It was a good time had by all.