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Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells?

Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/13/21 04:55 AM

Looking for advice, guidance, and sourcing for powder and wads.

I’m wanting to hand load black powder shells for an annual charity clay shoot.

Thanks!

Jes
Posted By: Scoutdog

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/15/21 05:58 AM

Real black powder is going to be the hard one to find right now. It is about as tough as finding smokeless powders. Places will have it in stock for short periods of time, but it sells out quickly.

As to loading shells, are you planning on loading in brass (Magtech) hulls or plastic hulls? I have only loaded the brass Magtech hulls. Since the hulls are thin walled, you actually use oversized wads and cards. Loading is very straightforward. Magtech hulls use LPP and not 209 style primers. Prime, load your BP charge, and then an overpowder/Nitro card and compress the card in the hull. You don't want any dead space between the powder and overpowder card. Next add a fiber cushion wad followed by shot and then an overshot card. On the brass hulls, you don't need to crimp them, just glue the overshot card in place.

Among other places, you can find components at Circle Fly Wads and Ballistic Products. Circle Fly has info on their site as to which size wads you will need. Ballistic Products also has a manual you can buy which specifically is for loading black powder in brass hulls.
Posted By: fishdfly

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/15/21 09:32 AM

If you are looking for black powder, look up Traveler's Antiques and Trading in Claude, TX, ask for Toby or Anna at 806-679-9016..
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/17/21 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by fishdfly
If you are looking for black powder, look up Traveler's Antiques and Trading in Claude, TX, ask for Toby or Anna at 806-679-9016..


Thanks! I’ll check with them. Greatly appreciated…
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/17/21 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Scoutdog
Real black powder is going to be the hard one to find right now. It is about as tough as finding smokeless powders. Places will have it in stock for short periods of time, but it sells out quickly.

As to loading shells, are you planning on loading in brass (Magtech) hulls or plastic hulls? I have only loaded the brass Magtech hulls. Since the hulls are thin walled, you actually use oversized wads and cards. Loading is very straightforward. Magtech hulls use LPP and not 209 style primers. Prime, load your BP charge, and then an overpowder/Nitro card and compress the card in the hull. You don't want any dead space between the powder and overpowder card. Next add a fiber cushion wad followed by shot and then an overshot card. On the brass hulls, you don't need to crimp them, just glue the overshot card in place.

Among other places, you can find components at Circle Fly Wads and Ballistic Products. Circle Fly has info on their site as to which size wads you will need. Ballistic Products also has a manual you can buy which specifically is for loading black powder in brass hulls.



Once fired plastic hulls for now. I have primers, shot, and Lee hand reloaders for now. Picking up some hulls this week and ordering wads soon. ( Appreciate to sources for those). Need powder and I’ll be in business.

I also picked up an antique roll crimper and the Lee reloading kit has a star crimper…

Thanks!
Posted By: hetman

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/18/21 05:42 PM


Alcan drawn brass 12 gauge unprimed cases 230 (in original packages) 4 cases plus 4 boxes $100 case/$20 box

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum...554/large-caliber-brass-dies#Post8450554
Posted By: Scoutdog

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/19/21 05:59 AM

If you go with brass Alcan hulls, be aware that the hulls use a different primer than a standard 209 primer. Going from memory here, but I believe they were A57 primers but also Remington 57 or 157 primers could be used. Those primers are smaller diameter than 209’s and have been out of production for a while.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 11/19/21 09:46 PM

Thank you Sir!
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 12/01/21 02:52 AM

Check with the Possibles Shop in Roswell, years ago there was a guy that got us his supplies for loading BP shotgun shells from them. To save shipping costs we would pick his order up on our way from Ruidoso.
Posted By: Saddle Tramp

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 01/04/22 11:27 PM

Although I'll admit this post will cause hypertension in some, I'll share how I load BP shotshells.

I use Alliant Black MZ (no longer made but I still have several pounds) in once fired Winchester AA hulls, Pink Claybuster wad and 1 oz shot. All this is accomplished on an old MEC Grabber press.

They work great for CAS and I've even used them successfully for Dove.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 01/05/22 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Saddle Tramp
Although I'll admit this post will cause hypertension in some, I'll share how I load BP shotshells.

I use Alliant Black MZ (no longer made but I still have several pounds) in once fired Winchester AA hulls, Pink Claybuster wad and 1 oz shot. All this is accomplished on an old MEC Grabber press.

They work great for CAS and I've even used them successfully for Dove.


That’s awesome! I’m seriously considering using one to spring turkey hunt this year. I have some #4 I can load up and a good place to go near Lampasas.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: Anyone reloading BP shotgun shells? - 06/17/22 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
Originally Posted by fishdfly
If you are looking for black powder, look up Traveler's Antiques and Trading in Claude, TX, ask for Toby or Anna at 806-679-9016..


Thanks! I’ll check with them. Greatly appreciated…


Talked with To y earlier today…great guy. I’m going to get back with him next week after he’s back from a black powder gathering….
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