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350 legend or Grendal?

Posted By: BassCat'99

350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 09:05 PM

Bil wants to replace his 300 BO. He lives near Collage Station and has several locations to hunt. This would be for pigs.
Posted By: kmon11

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 09:11 PM

Expected shot range? If shots may be over 150 yards I would take the 6.5 Grendel.
Posted By: BassCat'99

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 09:12 PM

yea under 200 yds
Posted By: Wilson Combat

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 09:29 PM

No fan of the Grendel, I've killed several hogs with the 350 and it's GTG out to 200yds
Posted By: KK30RAR

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 10:05 PM

I’ve killed a ton of pigs with the Grendel but in this case I’d go with the 350 or the 300 hammer
Posted By: Pig_Popper

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
No fan of the Grendel, I've killed several hogs with the 350 and it's GTG out to 200yds


Wait , What ?

You sale 6.5 Grendel right ?

Do you tell your call In customers that you’re not a fan ? And they buy them regardless ???
Posted By: MC68

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 11:04 PM

I like the 350 Legend. I have taken several hogs with it and it has worked great. A side note is ammo is still available at Academy in my area!
Posted By: texjitter

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 11:07 PM

I had a 6.5 Grendel and it was okay for pigs. Running 6 ARC now just for grins...but also because 350 Legend won't work with my Deadair Sandman 7.62 suppressor
Posted By: Old Stony

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 11:49 PM

I'm a fan of the Grendel. I have taken a lot of hogs with one of mine....some of them pretty big ones. I also took two of my deer this last week with a Grendel....and no problems. I use one in a Ruger bolt action and one in an AR platform with a suppressor. Both shoot very good...
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/23/20 11:55 PM


I don't always hunt hogs with an AR15 but when I do, I prefer the 6.8 SPC.
Posted By: BigDad

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 12:05 AM

I've shot several hogs at 135 yards or with my 350 Legend and it hammers them. My only problem is accuracy, mine is all over the place. Sometimes it can group 5 in an inch and a half other times 7 inches. Usually the 1st shot is several inches out of the group.
Posted By: Pig_Popper

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by BigDad
I've shot several hogs at 135 yards or with my 350 Legend and it hammers them. My only problem is accuracy, mine is all over the place. Sometimes it can group 5 in an inch and a half other times 7 inches. Usually the 1st shot is several inches out of the group.


You didn’t get it from Bear Creek Arsenal did ya ...
Posted By: StraitShot

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 03:32 AM

I've hunted down there... plenty of open space with distance and tight thickets too....lots of hogs.... vote Grendel...
Posted By: BigDad

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Pig_Popper
Originally Posted by BigDad
I've shot several hogs at 135 yards or with my 350 Legend and it hammers them. My only problem is accuracy, mine is all over the place. Sometimes it can group 5 in an inch and a half other times 7 inches. Usually the 1st shot is several inches out of the group.


You didn’t get it from Bear Creek Arsenal did ya ...



No got it from Patriot Arms and Supply via Gunbroker. I even replaced the CMMG Barrel it came with with a Faxon.
Posted By: Adchunts

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 01:55 PM

Pretty much every Academy I’ve been in recently has had .350 Legend ammo on the shelf. That would make my decision a little easier.
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Adchunts
Pretty much every Academy I’ve been in recently has had .350 Legend ammo on the shelf. That would make my decision a little easier.


Agree that we have to start working backwards on what is available.
Posted By: Wilson Combat

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Pig_Popper
Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
No fan of the Grendel, I've killed several hogs with the 350 and it's GTG out to 200yds


Wait , What ?

You sale 6.5 Grendel right ?

Do you tell your call In customers that you’re not a fan ? And they buy them regardless ???


I'm personally not a fan of lots of calibers, but we have customers that like them. I'm sure everyone has favorites and ones they don't care much for. Except for .223/5.56 I'm pretty much a .30cal and up guy.
Posted By: Wilson Combat

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by BigDad
I've shot several hogs at 135 yards or with my 350 Legend and it hammers them. My only problem is accuracy, mine is all over the place. Sometimes it can group 5 in an inch and a half other times 7 inches. Usually the 1st shot is several inches out of the group.


My 350 with the 170gr Hornady Interlock over a case full of CFEBLK will shoot 1" consistently and kills like lightning.
Posted By: Double Naught Spy

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/24/20 09:05 PM

I read this great quote about the 350 Legend...

https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/winchester-350-legend-cartridge/359189

Quote
The overall loaded length of the ammunition I tested for Guns & Ammo measured 2.25 inches, which is identical to the length of the .223 Rem. This makes this a small cartridge ideally suited for hunting hogs and deer.


Because as we all know, one of the determining factors for cartridges being suitable for hogs or deer is whether or not it is the same size as the .223 Rem, which BTW, it NOT ideally suited for hunting hogs and deer. muyloco

So all of y'all hunting deer with a cartridge that won't fit into an AR15 magazine, y'all are all hunting with a non-ideally suited cartridge for hunting hogs and deer. Tom Beckstrand at Guns&Ammo would never steer you wrong.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/25/20 02:18 AM

Love my 6.5 Grendel. I was skeptical at first but it has performed admirably on deer, pigs, and coyotes. It he’s become my go-to AR for day and night hunting. Love it so much I’m thinking about a second upper in same caliber but 12.5 inch barrel.
Posted By: BigDad

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/26/20 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
Originally Posted by BigDad
I've shot several hogs at 135 yards or with my 350 Legend and it hammers them. My only problem is accuracy, mine is all over the place. Sometimes it can group 5 in an inch and a half other times 7 inches. Usually the 1st shot is several inches out of the group.


My 350 with the 170gr Hornady Interlock over a case full of CFEBLK will shoot 1" consistently and kills like lightning.


Thanks Bill,
I've been using Lil Gun, I'll give CFEBLK a try if I can find it. Looks like you can't get over-pressure with CFEBLK so I guess you stuff as much power in the case as it will hold and seat the bullet to mag length. Do you crimp?
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/26/20 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
No fan of the Grendel, I've killed several hogs with the 350 and it's GTG out to 200yds
Posted By: flintknapper

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/27/20 04:14 PM

For the sole purpose of hogs (150 yds. and in) I'd likely go with the Legend, but the Grendel is a more versatile cartridge IMO....if one wants/needs to reach out further and/or anticipates using it on other smaller game (Coyote, Bobcat, Skunk, Coon....etc).
Posted By: jeffbird

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/27/20 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Pig_Popper
Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
No fan of the Grendel, I've killed several hogs with the 350 and it's GTG out to 200yds


Wait , What ?

You sale 6.5 Grendel right ?

Do you tell your call In customers that you’re not a fan ? And they buy them regardless ???


Businesses sell what customers want to buy.
Posted By: Pig_Popper

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/27/20 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by jeffbird
Originally Posted by Pig_Popper
Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
No fan of the Grendel, I've killed several hogs with the 350 and it's GTG out to 200yds


Wait , What ?

You sale 6.5 Grendel right ?

Do you tell your call In customers that you’re not a fan ? And they buy them regardless ???


Businesses sell what customers want to buy.


Mr. Wilson clarified that Grendel isn’t for him - I get that - however outside of Mr. Wilson his “sphere of influence” is quite large and this can translate into many latching on to Grendel not being this or that or not as good as 350 Legend.

It’s most unfortunate but Fanboy-ism is real especially in Internet Land.

Now that we understand Bill isn’t a fan I’m sure there will be others who vote 350 Legend without having tried it themselves or based on a lack of knowledge and experience.

Business is Business (on the Grendel offering) - what I learned new In this thread is Mr. Wilson isn’t a fan of Grendel - good to know !
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/27/20 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Pig_Popper
Originally Posted by jeffbird
Originally Posted by Pig_Popper
Originally Posted by Wilson Combat
No fan of the Grendel, I've killed several hogs with the 350 and it's GTG out to 200yds


Wait , What ?

You sale 6.5 Grendel right ?

Do you tell your call In customers that you’re not a fan ? And they buy them regardless ???


Businesses sell what customers want to buy.


Mr. Wilson clarified that Grendel isn’t for him - I get that - however outside of Mr. Wilson his “sphere of influence” is quite large and this can translate into many latching on to Grendel not being this or that or not as good as 350 Legend.

It’s most unfortunate but Fanboy-ism is real especially in Internet Land.

Now that we understand Bill isn’t a fan I’m sure there will be others who vote 350 Legend without having tried it themselves or based on a lack of knowledge and experience.

Business is Business (on the Grendel offering) - what I learned new In this thread is Mr. Wilson isn’t a fan of Grendel - good to know !


My personal opinion, the Grendel and 6.8 SPC squeeze just about everything you can get out of an AR15 platform. 6MM ARC probably will be in that category in time as well.
Posted By: rickt300

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/27/20 07:48 PM

I like my Grendel too, easy to load for , accurate, penetrates deep and hits hard. However I would like to see some DNS autopsies done with the 350 Legend as the test cartridge.
Posted By: Double Naught Spy

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/27/20 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by rickt300
I like my Grendel too, easy to load for , accurate, penetrates deep and hits hard. However I would like to see some DNS autopsies done with the 350 Legend as the test cartridge.


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Posted By: rickt300

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 11/28/20 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy
Originally Posted by rickt300
I like my Grendel too, easy to load for , accurate, penetrates deep and hits hard. However I would like to see some DNS autopsies done with the 350 Legend as the test cartridge.


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Me too and a thermal night vision sponsor!
Posted By: Jsarmory

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 12/24/20 09:23 PM

+1 for the Grendel. Many hogs and varmints have fallen to mine.
Posted By: billymagg

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 12/25/20 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by KK30RAR
I’ve killed a ton of pigs with the Grendel but in this case I’d go with the 350 or the 300 hammer


Yep, 300 Ham'r is a great choice, but you didn't say whether you would be using it in an AR platform or bolt gun??
Posted By: oldesarge

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 12/29/20 01:10 PM

I'll stick the Grendel. Several of my friends have 350 Legends and the accuracy with them is dismal. Can't kill a darned thing if you can't hit it. Been going back and forth with myself on the purchase of a 300 HAM'R barrel but have a 7.62x39 that I built several years ago that is as accurate as I can shoot with Hornady ammo and will shoot 2" or better with "combloc" ammo. I'm sure to end up with a Wilson barrel ( 300 HAM'R) in the next few months though.
Posted By: Graycard

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 12/29/20 05:44 PM

Let's see what my “sphere of influence” is like. smile
I have no interest in the 6.5 Grendel or the 350 Legend.
Since I don't shoot sub-sonic I have no use for a Blackout and wouldn't use a 5.56 on anything bigger than a coyote.

But I am a big fan of the 300 HAM'R. grin
Posted By: JCB

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 12/29/20 10:41 PM

Haven’t shot either one. I’m a sucker for bigger bullets though so I would probably gravitate towards the 350.
Posted By: rickt300

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 03/16/21 01:18 AM

Just happened to run into a guy at the gun range shooting a BCA upper in 350 Legend on top of a PSA lower. He was using a factory Winchester loading and at 100 yards put 20 in 2 inches. First time shooting that upper. If they had had any uppers for sale in 350 Legend that day I would have ordered one. I really can't say anything bad about the Grendel, shoots great and kills things. But there is always that new toy thing.
Posted By: DLALLDER

Re: 350 legend or Grendal? - 03/16/21 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by billymagg
[quote=KK30RAR]I’ve killed a ton of pigs with the Grendel but in this case I’d go with the 350 or the 300 hammer


Yep, 300 Ham'r is a great choice, but you didn't say whether you would be using it in an AR platform or bolt gun??[/quot

Who makes the 300 Ham'r in a bolt gun??
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