First Annual Duplex Reticle Challenge

Let's do it. It'll be a fun experiment, and the best part is, we won't hardly have to repaint any targets.

Wanna go to 300 or 400?

I'll still clean it.

Hell no. We're taking it all the way to 800. A bunch of these dudes are rocking big magnums. Not the Trojan ones, of course.

Duplex wont even keep em on the berms. I aint havin that.

Duplex with a dial? I’m in!

Or if we can string a jumbo 30’ tape measure up behind it.

I can't allow dialing in a hunting scenario. Unless you have a Leupold. Then the turret clicks will be way too mushy to alert any animals.

And unreliable from what I understand. I may be dialing east instead of up.

you just jumped right in. My man.

At one time I ould have been ready to be all over this. in the 1990s I often shot to 600 with a 3-9X40 Duplex, a friend managed a ranch in Lampassas County with a box canyon on it. For winconditions shoot from the 70 acre hay field that joined the canyon. . Long out of practice now days

Jason, I do not blame you for not hosting this type of event

I'll just use the Max Point Blank range method. I'll clean it easy that way.

Kmon, you already know I have huge respect for you and I love hearing your hunting stories.


Jason, you don't have a hair on your azz if you don't host this epic event.

In, where do I sign!

Your idea, you do it.

I kind of like being able to show up just before the match, and shoot, just like everyone else.

Kyle spoilt me.

I'll have my secretary (Josh) contact your secretary (Kyle) and put this thing together.

I bet you get an Out Of Office reply!

Plus, you really think Josh will condone holding over?

Yea, I will get right on that bish

Absolutely blew RIGHT past me Josh! You go back inside and handle the important stuff. I got this.

I'm good to 500 with a duplex reticle. But I'm using the reticle as a BDC reticle from known holds. But it certainly is not as accurate. My original thought was that the hunting rifle challenge be a true "hunting" rifle and not the tactical style rifles. We could do one of those and restrict the scope for this match, as a thought???

I'm in. I'll even use a Vortex.

I'm in with my Abolt and Leupold duplex but I'll be dialing, the not Mil style.

No dialing, Scotty. The guys that have killed 7,000 creatures say it's not cool to dial when you're hunting.

It's a .243, I'll zero it for 234.7 yards and I should be good out to 521.8 right?

Friggin [censored] Hat.....

Prezackly right. Your way more smarter then I thot you was.

Warm it up Chris!

Why not just go iron sites....

Hell no Josh won’t be holding over, he’s not even strong enough to hold it on target much less over the target

Peep and patridge challenge?

Blade and ramp challenge?

Better off calling it the Hold my beer and watch this challenge...

How about old school? A Garand Match.

Out to 500? Ima still need a new scope. I “think” I can see an animal at 400?

Well dang, I've been shooting a duplex and hold overs at all the previous matches! You mean to tell me y'all been dialing tactical scopes this whole time? Sissys!

"If your boyfriend can't hit a b modified with iron sights at 500, you have a girlfriend"

Reading my mind, I had already decided to bring my regular stock, bold action Savage deer gun with my Burris FF2 BDC on it for the next one. Wont be dialing, just hold overs. Let the chips fall where they may.

^^^^^^^Yall keep going this direction and IM ALL IN. Im not even sure what a duplex reticle is but if it more closely simulates the type setup that im assuming 95% of "hunters" use(like me) then I think it will be a successful event that will likely get regular guys to consider upping their ante and doing whatever that dial thing is yall talk about all the time. Just don't do it during deer season.

+1 vote for “Hold my beer, watch this” Match 2019!

Soooooo, what’s the minimum round/cartridge allowed Annoyinglongscreennamefella? Is this strictly a limited scope/UNlimited rifle match? Or turn it into only hunting calibers for deer size game? .223/556 and up? .243 and up

Now this one is interesting, will there be caliber restrictions, velocity restrictions?

Hey, 22 mag is a great deer gun

Gotta be 30/30 and buckhorn sights, all shots standing unsupported

Alright now superduperlongazzfreakingscreennameguy, you can just drop atom bombs, walk away and not expect just a few inquiries on the matter.

If Josh were here, he’d beat you with a rubber hose mister!

Why do I keep getting name dropped in this GD thread? I had nothing to do with this chit!?!?!?!

I suggest throwing it out to the forum to decide the parameters of the rules. The spirit of the idea would be to simulate actual hunting situations(rifle, caliber, scope, positions, distance, number of rounds etc.) Maybe set up a poll/survey, or whatever its called, and list all the categories that need to be addressed and see what the consensus is. Theguywithstupidlongscreenname can still override the consensus and decide what the parameters are. I would personally like to find out how many "hunters" as opposed to "shooters" would be interested in doing this. If theres no interest then stay with your more precision shooting kinda rules. If the rules were hunter friendly then I would likely volunteer time to help pull this off(maybe throw in on the prize table).

Guilt by association

OKay, I'm in BUTTTTTTTTT

this is my REAL "hunting" rifle. It does have a duplex reticle, if I tape over the BDC, can I play?

6.5 Creedmoor

I think you should allow tactical scopes and just say nobody gets to spin a turret. Otherwise, you need to put together, oh, lets say 5 exact rifles, all with fine crosshair scopes (so nothing on the reticle that could give you a 'hold' point) and provide a drop chart out to the furthest distance you want people to shoot.

Because, in general...you're the only thing people can think of that sucks more than this thread



Now - haven't you got a diaper to change or mouth to stick a bottle in?

What exactly would you guys like to see changed over the current Hunters Challenge format?


Lets go down the list:

Rifle: What constitues a "hunting rifle"? Any rifle that can launch a projectile that will take down the animal in question is considered a hunting rifle to me. Just because it doesn't fit the miss conceptions that a hunting rifle has to be a wood stock with sporter barrel and duplex reticle 3-9x scope doesn't mean that it isn't someone's hunting rifle. Tactical rifles can be used to hunt with and probably to a far better extent than regular "hunting rilfes" but some people are just set in their ways.

Caliber: In the past all calibers used in the Hunting Challenge have all been calibers that could take down most everything in North America.

Positions: All shots being taken are hunting scenarios, most of which are on steel that has been laser cut to mimic the animal in question. The positional stuff is a great way to help hunters get out of their comfort zone of just shooting off a bench or prone, it helps them be able to make shots off fence post or off a tree for more stability.

Distance: The longest shot is 300 yards in the Hunters Challenge, that is not very far for hunting scenarios unless you just hunt over a feeder at 50 yards.

Number of rounds: This is really a moot point considering the generous time that is given for each stage. Dave Kershen actually used a single shot 22 for the 22 match and top loaded every single round. He ran out of time I think once. With a regular "hunting rifle" and a 3 round internal box mag you'd be able to run all the stages with no problem.


I guess I just don't understand the negativity towards our current format. I personally haven't shot a duplex reticle since I was about 12 years old on my Marlin 22LR and will never own one have no use for it. Times change, there is better equipment out there.

You haven't learned that you can't please everyone yet....come on grasshopper.

There will always be someone that wants to bitch about something....funny how 99% of the time those are the guys who are no where to be found when work needs to be done either. They want to bitch, they don't want to help.

I believe there wasn't a problem filling the slots for the Hunter's Challenge. I wouldn't change a thing.

“He who shall remain nameless from now on” just needs a little nappy Judd. He be aight then

I wasn't assuming the current Hunters Challenge would change. I just thought one of your guys that was real involved and knew the scoop wanted to add a new a contest and tweak off the old a little. Also, I wasn't bitching at all but merely adding to suggestions already stated. Also, ill admit to not researching the particulars of the current format and had no idea the longest shot was 300 yards(could of swore 500), which 300 would be fine by me. I do not have an issue with caliber for sure and likely do not have much issue with the current format. I only mentioned the round count cause I shoot a 3006 and cant handle 100 rounds of recoil in a day I don't think. Im planning on building a gun that has less recoil mostly just for competitions like this. I just assumed there was something needed tweaking or it wouldn't of been brought up. Im likely in for whatever yall do that simulates hunting but ill just butt out of offering input on the format. KRoyal, thanks for a very informative reply. Lastly, I apologize for jumping on a thread without knowing enough about it.

No problem, I wasn't really pointing that at you specifically I just used your examples to make some points. You're not the only one in this tread that asked these questions and I was just wondering what everyone wants to change about the current format. As far as round count it is normally around 60ish rounds. We have a few that bring 300WM and shoot them for the match. The Hunters Match is gear specifically towards hunters, the Tactical Match or Long Range Match is geared more towards PRS type shooting. It goes out to 800 yards and is normally held in mid July when it is 115 degrees outside.

By the way not sure if you know Jeremy (ITRDM) but he was actually trolling with this post, he never intended to actually hold a match with just duplex reticles.

Ive been waiting for a challenge that I can actually relate to! What general area of texas to these competitions take place in? Id love to put some faces to some names.

Wolfe City TX, about 45 minutes from you.

Well I'm not as well seasoned, knowledgeable, or well versed as many of you, but if theres a spot and its on a weekend Id love to come meet and sling some lead. Ill follow the thread. Assuming it was an open invitation to the THF lol. Been wanting to do one of these!

Are you name dropping Josh again???

This duplex reticle only match probably won't happen. But we do yearly Hunting, Tactical, and 22LR matches. Will probably do the 22LR matches a few more times a year though.

Naw, it wasn't at one individual...sorry freerange that wasn't directed at you specifically...unless you come to bitch and not offer to help

Alright Ill just keep tracking and see when the next one is fellas.

Senko, you will do fine in the Hunters Rifle Challenge with whatever you have, its a blast and VERY well run

Dont change anything on the Hunters Challenge, DAL wants it just like it was.

Dont tease about the rimfire match's, are you REALLY going to do several a year just for CAST or everyone. I need to get busy and do some trading and building

Well done Kyle.

I almost added, but self control got the better of me.

I was planning on possibly doing them 3 times a year. Since we got started late this year will probably be end of October for the next one, then next year will be doing March, June, and Oct next year if everything works out.

These are just preliminary plans and subject to change though.


Haha, you've had some pretty good self control lately. What happened? You getting soft in your old age

Oh chit, JG on the blue pills already?


Nothing needs to change on any of the matches except off hand shooting...'cause I suck at it.

Poor Beez.

Opposite.

No, I don't know Jeremy but ive followed some of his posts so I got a feel for him:) I don't know anyone on the forum except that I have spoken to Chad. I fully intend to see Jasons range and hopefully meet him. Hopefully others as well as the opportunity arises. Always gonna be some butts but surely lots of great guys on here(even the "shooters").
Im glad Fireman exhibited self control. KRoyal responded very well in his stead. All through life I am usually the "doer" so I would never want to bitch or complain about an endeavor that others are volunteering their time and energy to. Ive been on the other side of it and I keep being the doer but its no fun when you put effort into something and others sit back and pick it apart.
This may not be the time or the thread but please consider posting the current rules of Hunters Challenge when you can. I assume its always subject to change at this early date so interject any thoughts on any possible changes. Im considering building a rifle so I need some time. I just heard 80 shots and 20 to zero=100 so i need less recoil. Thanks guys.

Nothing wrong with previous format, except the Standing, Free-hand station which sucks to the max and should be banned forever. The targets and times were generous and it didn’t take a high dollar tactical build to be competitive.
Shooters like JG and Chad (some others) could win with an off the shelf rifle and decent ammo.

I didn't think anyone would take it this serious. I was getting my bday drink on when I came up with this jewel.

I’ll say this, you are ALL in for a surprise of defeat when the 22 match pops up again. Or at the very least left thinkin’ “where’d THAT come from?”