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6.5cm

Posted By: pittdog33

6.5cm - 12/13/18 05:04 PM

Looking at a Browning Hell's Canyon speed in 6.5 at about $1000.00. For the average guy that hunts and occasionally goes to the range, what is the benefit of building a custom rifle over something like the Browning and spending the extra couple of thousand dollars? Will the difference be noticeable for the occasional shooter?
Posted By: J.G.

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 05:12 PM

Nothing.

Your money is better spent on great ammo. Either build it yourself, or buy truly match ammo from Chad. The old saying goes; "they don't build em like they used to". That's right, now days mass produced rifles are better than ever. Most mass produced rifles will make just about anyone more than pleased, as long as you give them great ammo to run. A very good rifle, with poor ammo, will most likely shoot poorly. A very good rifle, with very good ammo, will most likely shoot very good.
Posted By: Texan Til I Die

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 05:30 PM

And use the money you save by buying off the shelf to get some top notch glass.
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 05:33 PM

True words on ammo. I have a friend that shoots three Brownings in different calibers. He's developed his own loads and shoots some amazing groups with these hunting rifles. I'm looking forward to seeing what my new $569.00 Tikka in 6.5 Creedmoor will do with good ammo.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 05:44 PM

JG is right. We see on here every week where somebody bought XX rifle and how good it shoots. I’m sure a custom will shoot better, but I, just like most of y’all, are the limiting factor in that.

I guess if you are super picky or want a caliber not offered in factory rifles then a custom is the way to go.
Posted By: BigDad

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
And use the money you save by buying off the shelf to get some top notch glass.


This

Spend your money on a good quality optic
Posted By: pittdog33

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 05:53 PM

Thanks for the input, that is what i was hoping to hear. I am planning on good glass but not sure of what yet. Want to keep that budget under $1000.00.
Posted By: Shane431

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 06:56 PM

I recommend the SWFA 3-15 ffp. Very good all around scope.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Shaner
I recommend the SWFA 3-15 ffp. Very good all around scope.


Cleaner glass can be had for $1k. It may be a used scope, but with the excellent warranty so many companies are offering, used doesn't matter.
Posted By: pittdog33

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 08:27 PM

I'm not opposed to buying used if it's good and with warranty. Where's the best place to look for used optics?
Posted By: J.G.

Re: 6.5cm - 12/13/18 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by pittdog33
I'm not opposed to buying used if it's good and with warranty. Where's the best place to look for used optics?


Sniper'sHide.com

Optics for sale section.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: 6.5cm - 12/14/18 04:35 PM

look for a used nightforce SHV. easy to find around $900. 24 hourcampfire.com longrange.com accurateshooter.com
Posted By: pittdog33

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 04:45 PM

So I have the gun now and am working on the optics. What is a good grain to start with for whitetail and pigs? I am shooting 140 grain on my 7mm-08 so maybe looking for something a bit lighter?
Posted By: howl

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 07:43 PM

120gr is enough for deer and pigs in 6.5mm.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by pittdog33
So I have the gun now and am working on the optics. What is a good grain to start with for whitetail and pigs? I am shooting 140 grain on my 7mm-08 so maybe looking for something a bit lighter?



143 gr Hornady ELD-X

(I shoot 162's out of 7mm-08)
Posted By: JTS

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by FiremanJG
[quote=pittdog33]


143 gr Hornady ELD-X

(I shoot 162's out of 7mm-08)


This is what I shoot out of a tikka 6.5 that Chad re-barreled and it shoots so well that I decided not to work up a load for it.
Posted By: HoldPoint

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Originally Posted by pittdog33
So I have the gun now and am working on the optics. What is a good grain to start with for whitetail and pigs? I am shooting 140 grain on my 7mm-08 so maybe looking for something a bit lighter?



143 gr Hornady ELD-X

(I shoot 162's out of 7mm-08)


you prefer 162's over the 150's?
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by JTS
Originally Posted by FiremanJG
[quote=pittdog33]


143 gr Hornady ELD-X

(I shoot 162's out of 7mm-08)


This is what I shoot out of a tikka 6.5 that Chad re-barreled and it shoots so well that I decided not to work up a load for it.

Hornady Premium Hunter?
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by pittdog33
I'm not opposed to buying used if it's good and with warranty. Where's the best place to look for used optics?

Not exactly used, but Midway USA currently has a good supply of Leupold Factory refurbished. These have full, like new Leupold lifetime warranty. I just got a great deal on one.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by HoldPoint
Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Originally Posted by pittdog33
So I have the gun now and am working on the optics. What is a good grain to start with for whitetail and pigs? I am shooting 140 grain on my 7mm-08 so maybe looking for something a bit lighter?



143 gr Hornady ELD-X

(I shoot 162's out of 7mm-08)


you prefer 162's over the 150's?



Absolutely! They are devastating out of 7mm-08 and 7mm-08 A.I. Get em going 2600 fps or more and they are awesome!
Posted By: pittdog33

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 08:55 PM

Great, thanks for the responses.
Posted By: snake oil

Re: 6.5cm - 12/20/18 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Originally Posted by pittdog33
I'm not opposed to buying used if it's good and with warranty. Where's the best place to look for used optics?

Not exactly used, but Midway USA currently has a good supply of Leupold Factory refurbished. These have full, like new Leupold lifetime warranty. I just got a great deal on one.



Wow you just saved me $225 I owe you a cold one or ten..
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson

Re: 6.5cm - 12/21/18 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by snake oil
Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Originally Posted by pittdog33
I'm not opposed to buying used if it's good and with warranty. Where's the best place to look for used optics?

Not exactly used, but Midway USA currently has a good supply of Leupold Factory refurbished. These have full, like new Leupold lifetime warranty. I just got a great deal on one.



Wow you just saved me $225 I owe you a cold one or ten..

What did you get? I got a vx-3i, 3.5-10 x40 CDS
Posted By: snake oil

Re: 6.5cm - 12/21/18 12:41 PM

VX 5hd 2x10x42 mat fire dot. Thanks again
Posted By: onlysmith&wesson

Re: 6.5cm - 12/21/18 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by snake oil
VX 5hd 2x10x42 mat fire dot. Thanks again

you oughta like that, I have it in 3-15, with a CDS dial, no fire dot.
Posted By: Longtine

Re: 6.5cm - 12/24/18 04:35 AM

I just bought a Bergara Premier Approach in 6.5 CM and grabbed some Hornady PH 143 eld and some nosler in Barnes 127 lrx and both shot right at 1/2 moa. The 143’s actually one group I had at 200 yards were under that quite a bit.
Posted By: snake oil

Re: 6.5cm - 12/24/18 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Originally Posted by snake oil
VX 5hd 2x10x42 mat fire dot. Thanks again

you oughta like that, I have it in 3-15, with a CDS dial, no fire dot.



Mine also has the CDS dial forgot to mention that.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: 6.5cm - 12/24/18 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Longtine
I just bought a Bergara Premier Approach in 6.5 CM and grabbed some Hornady PH 143 eld and some nosler in Barnes 127 lrx and both shot right at 1/2 moa. The 143’s actually one group I had at 200 yards were under that quite a bit.

Where did you buy your Approach? Get a deal? I love this rifle,
Posted By: Longtine

Re: 6.5cm - 12/25/18 02:02 AM

Bought off gunbroker for $1650 shipped to my ffl +$20 bucks for the transfer so total $1675. Not bad. Everyone else wanted 1725 and tax on top of that. Love the gun. Super smooth and lighter than I expected. The aics mag is very nicely done. Trigger is super smooth. It’s as close to a custom build and better than most custom builds. It’s my new all time favorite for sure. Thinking of getting a 22-250 in it.
Posted By: waterandwoods

Re: 6.5cm - 12/25/18 07:15 PM

My daughter's Canyon I bought her really likes the American Hunter 129gr
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