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Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now

Posted By: Buzzsaw

Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 01:20 PM

Well, Buds has caught on how to not be the best place to buy a gun.

1. Now they have "Team Bud's" you pay a FEE to have first shot at any "hard to get" gun
2. Then , when you buy, if you don't buy their "insurance" your gun ships whenever they "get around to it" instead of immediately upon payment.

So for an extra $50+ you get your gun sooner. B.S.

I ordered a Dan Wesson Specialist 1911 march 28th. I paid with Electronic check (they have my money) Gun still has not shipped. Its sitting on some ahole's desk punishing me for not paying all their premiums.

I'm not in a hurry, that's why I did it this way, just P's me off what these companies are doing to squeeze us for more $$. I know capitalism.

You cant find the "cool" guns local where you could just buy it. The $$ just about breaks even buying in person if you get a good price. Most local retailers seem to have a $100 pad on guns to begin with.

Oh well rant over
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 01:32 PM

Team Buds has been around for a long time. I've bought a lot of guns from Buds in the past. They've never been extremely fast at shipping especially when using an ECheck. My G19 should be at my FFL today, but it sat in the "processing room" for about 4 days before it got sent to shipping and then sat there another day.

Also think a lot of gun shops are being hit with a lot of extra sells right now because of the gun ban BS talk. Which I think slows them down right now.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 01:35 PM

I agree K-ro

I just like to whine up
Posted By: Choctaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 01:48 PM

Sometimes it has taken 10 days or longer for me to receive a purchase from Buds. They are pretty slow on the shipping side. However, free shipping and no tax makes it okay with me.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Choctaw
Sometimes it has taken 10 days or longer for me to receive a purchase from Buds. They are pretty slow on the shipping side. However, free shipping and no tax makes it okay with me.


Yep, also some pretty good prices. Got a Gen 4 G19 with Night Sights for less than what most box stores have the regular G19s priced at. Plus you have to pay tax local, adds up quick on a big purchase.
Posted By: Choctaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By: KRoyal
Originally Posted By: Choctaw
Sometimes it has taken 10 days or longer for me to receive a purchase from Buds. They are pretty slow on the shipping side. However, free shipping and no tax makes it okay with me.


Yep, also some pretty good prices. Got a Gen 4 G19 with Night Sights for less than what most box stores have the regular G19s priced at. Plus you have to pay tax local, adds up quick on a big purchase.


Yes sir, local tax does indeed add up.
Posted By: janie

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 02:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Choctaw
However, free shipping and no tax makes it okay with me.



^
This. No sales tax is huge. FFL transfer with Guns for Gals in McKinney is only 10.00. Win win.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 02:33 PM

Yep !!

I bought the Dan Wesson Specialist, no real discount on this model, pretty much paid retail but free ship and 0 tax is good.

I pay $25 transfer from Frisco Gun Club

He77 it all equals out. I will buy used but the stuff I like is hard to find used.
Posted By: aggiehunter03

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 06:08 PM

You can buy it at Cabelas and walk out with it. Of course they will bend you over on price and by the time they call your number Buds will ship it.
Posted By: Nogalus Prairie

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: aggiehunter03
You can buy it at Cabelas and walk out with it. Of course they will bend you over on price and by the time they call your number Buds will ship it.


And don’t accidentally check the wrong box on the computer either. I’ve heard ATF will arrest you on the spot for that. smile
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 06:54 PM

Once you buy from Whittaker's you'll throw rocks at Bud's. Whittaker's excels at customer service.
Posted By: Choctaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Jgraider
Once you buy from Whittaker's you'll throw rocks at Bud's. Whittaker's excels at customer service.


Prices don't suck either.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Choctaw
Originally Posted By: Jgraider
Once you buy from Whittaker's you'll throw rocks at Bud's. Whittaker's excels at customer service.


Prices don't suck either.
I put an order in on Saturday and it's supposed to be at the FFL tomorrow. Pretty awesome.

Went ahead and got a Ruger AR-15 for investment purposes - will plan to sell when the dems get in office and ban them.
Posted By: ckat

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 09:10 PM

I'll start by saying I use online gun companies because all of our LGS (except one) are OUT OF SIGHT on pricing. Their choice to price that high, my choice to shop elsewhere...

I used to use Bud's almost exclusively. They are slow to ship. Their new guns used to be cheap and their used guns even cheaper.

Recently, I give Whittaker's a look first. FAST shipping, and they work with manufacturers to get the non-cataloged guns that people want. Their prices are excellent, as well.

One recent example. When shopping for a Tikka T3X Lite SS 6.5CM, I first looked at Whittaker's. They were out of stock. Everyone who had them in stock was from $710-770 plus shipping. When I finally located it at Bud's (under Beretta JRTXB382... another peave, but I digress) it was $649 shipped. I ordered it. Two days later, their price went up to $748 and has stayed at that price. In the mean time, Whittaker's got them back in stock. Their price is $628 with free shipping.

That Tikka took about 10 days to arrive from Bud's. My last Whittakers gun was at my FFL in 4 days.
Posted By: garyrapp55

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 09:20 PM

I ordered a couple "in stock" mags from Brownell's that took 3 weeks to deliver. Order on-line and take the risk. Buy local and pay more. Often times though specialized products that we want can't even be had locally. Deal with it.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/03/18 11:07 PM

I would say that making an in store purchase allows you check the gun before you buy it. However, the stores are getting very strict on what you can touch and how you can touch it before you buy.
Posted By: Mike Honcho

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 01:10 AM

X2
Posted By: jeffbird

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 02:44 AM

I give the local shops a chance to price match and they always do, even Cabela's (at least before Bass Pro bought them, have not tried since).

It is important to keep gun stores visible and viable employers in our communities.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 02:45 AM

Originally Posted By: jeffbird
I give the local shops a chance to price match and they always do, even Cabela's (at least before Bass Pro bought them, have not tried since).

It is important to keep gun stores visible and viable employers in our communities.
I'm typically this way as well. But often they just don't have the items in stock and don't have a way to get them. When they do and they'll match price, I will pay the local sales tax just to give them my business. Ammo Depot in Caddo Mills has taken very good care of me over the years.
Posted By: Nogalus Prairie

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 03:13 AM

My local guy can get just about anything I want for reasonable prices. Can’t get Beretta/Sako though. He can get Tikka.
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 08:37 AM

Just an FYI, there is no such thing as no tax. You are supposed to be declaring and paying those taxes as a Use Tax... which is what I believe you all meant above.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 11:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Toxarch
Just an FYI, there is no such thing as no tax. You are supposed to be declaring and paying those taxes as a Use Tax... which is what I believe you all meant above.
If I understand correctly, it was determined long, long ago that there would not be sales tax on interstate transactions, which the government at the time did to promote interstate commerce. That's why you typically pay tax when you buy online if the company you're buying from is located in-state, but you don't pay tax if they aren't.

If there is any type of sales tax on those items, I expect the vendor to collect it just like they do when the sales tax is actually applicable on in-state transactions. If they don't collect it, I assume that's because no tax is necessary.

All in all, I'm just glad to see we have an IRS team member on the forum. I bet you aren't a Ted Cruz fan?
Posted By: SR025

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 12:26 PM

Buds sucks, so many better places to buy online
Posted By: glocker17

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/04/18 11:38 PM

What Toxarch is saying is that Texas requires you to pay tax on it when you receive the item. Don't hate on the messenger, hate the message.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 01:49 AM

Originally Posted By: glocker17
What Toxarch is saying is that Texas requires you to pay tax on it when you receive the item. Don't hate on the messenger, hate the message.
What I'm saying is that I disagree.
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 02:21 AM


All you tax dodgers need to download the form from Texas.gov and pay your Use Tax.

https://comptroller.texas.gov/taxes/sales/faq/use.php
Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By: patriot07
Originally Posted By: glocker17
What Toxarch is saying is that Texas requires you to pay tax on it when you receive the item. Don't hate on the messenger, hate the message.
What I'm saying is that I disagree.


There is no tax due unless the item you are buying ships from Texas. Patriot is right.
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 02:34 AM

From the comptroller.texas.gov

Do I owe tax on goods purchased via mail-order catalogs or online?

Yes. A seller who uses catalogs or the internet to sell goods is treated the same as any other seller of taxable items. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located in Texas, you owe Texas sales tax on the purchase. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located outside of Texas and use the taxable item in Texas, you owe Texas use tax on the purchase. An out-of-state mail-order company or an internet company may hold a Texas Sales and Use tax permit and collect Texas tax. If the out-of-state seller does not have a Texas permit or does not collect Texas use tax, use tax is due and payable by the purchaser.
Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 02:42 AM

Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
From the comptroller.texas.gov

Do I owe tax on goods purchased via mail-order catalogs or online?

Yes. A seller who uses catalogs or the internet to sell goods is treated the same as any other seller of taxable items. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located in Texas, you owe Texas sales tax on the purchase. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located outside of Texas and use the taxable item in Texas, you owe Texas use tax on the purchase. An out-of-state mail-order company or an internet company may hold a Texas Sales and Use tax permit and collect Texas tax. If the out-of-state seller does not have a Texas permit or does not collect Texas use tax, use tax is due and payable by the purchaser.


I realize you're really adamant about proving your point, but there has to be a definition of "use", and then proof that the buyer "used" the item by that definition. Not because scottfromthebureau posted a link.
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 02:49 AM

Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
From the comptroller.texas.gov

Do I owe tax on goods purchased via mail-order catalogs or online?

Yes. A seller who uses catalogs or the internet to sell goods is treated the same as any other seller of taxable items. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located in Texas, you owe Texas sales tax on the purchase. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located outside of Texas and use the taxable item in Texas, you owe Texas use tax on the purchase. An out-of-state mail-order company or an internet company may hold a Texas Sales and Use tax permit and collect Texas tax. If the out-of-state seller does not have a Texas permit or does not collect Texas use tax, use tax is due and payable by the purchaser.


I realize you're really adamant about proving your point, but there has to be a definition of "use", and then proof that the buyer "used" the item by that definition. Not because scottfromthebureau posted a link.


I will go away now. Bye cruel world. hanged
Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 02:59 AM

Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
From the comptroller.texas.gov

Do I owe tax on goods purchased via mail-order catalogs or online?

Yes. A seller who uses catalogs or the internet to sell goods is treated the same as any other seller of taxable items. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located in Texas, you owe Texas sales tax on the purchase. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located outside of Texas and use the taxable item in Texas, you owe Texas use tax on the purchase. An out-of-state mail-order company or an internet company may hold a Texas Sales and Use tax permit and collect Texas tax. If the out-of-state seller does not have a Texas permit or does not collect Texas use tax, use tax is due and payable by the purchaser.


I realize you're really adamant about proving your point, but there has to be a definition of "use", and then proof that the buyer "used" the item by that definition. Not because scottfromthebureau posted a link.


I will go away now. Bye cruel world. hanged


See ya, scottfromthegynecologist. We'll miss you, boo.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
From the comptroller.texas.gov

Do I owe tax on goods purchased via mail-order catalogs or online?

Yes. A seller who uses catalogs or the internet to sell goods is treated the same as any other seller of taxable items. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located in Texas, you owe Texas sales tax on the purchase. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located outside of Texas and use the taxable item in Texas, you owe Texas use tax on the purchase. An out-of-state mail-order company or an internet company may hold a Texas Sales and Use tax permit and collect Texas tax. If the out-of-state seller does not have a Texas permit or does not collect Texas use tax, use tax is due and payable by the purchaser.
Note to Texas comptroller:

Posted By: booradley

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted By: aggiehunter03
You can buy it at Cabelas and walk out with it. Of course they will bend you over on price and by the time they call your number Buds will ship it.


And don’t accidentally check the wrong box on the computer either. I’ve heard ATF will arrest you on the spot for that. smile


In deference to not upsetting customers, ATF waits until you leave the store before arresting you.
Posted By: booradley

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 10:46 AM

Team Bud’s has been around since at least 2011 when I bought my first firearm from them.
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: patriot07
All in all, I'm just glad to see we have an IRS team member on the forum. I bet you aren't a Ted Cruz fan?

You would be assuming wrong twice in one post.


Interesting to see a couple of Liberals in this forum who resort to insults and personal attacks on people whom they do not agree with despite proof being posted. It's not surprising because you all do that, just interesting to see you in this group. Glad to see you two joining the hunting forum.
Posted By: Payne

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 07:44 PM

Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
From the comptroller.texas.gov

Do I owe tax on goods purchased via mail-order catalogs or online?

Yes. A seller who uses catalogs or the internet to sell goods is treated the same as any other seller of taxable items. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located in Texas, you owe Texas sales tax on the purchase. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located outside of Texas and use the taxable item in Texas, you owe Texas use tax on the purchase. An out-of-state mail-order company or an internet company may hold a Texas Sales and Use tax permit and collect Texas tax. If the out-of-state seller does not have a Texas permit or does not collect Texas use tax, use tax is due and payable by the purchaser.


I realize you're really adamant about proving your point, but there has to be a definition of "use", and then proof that the buyer "used" the item by that definition. Not because scottfromthebureau posted a link.


I will go away now. Bye cruel world. hanged


See ya, scottfromthegynecologist. We'll miss you, boo.



Cut it out
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 07:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Toxarch
Originally Posted By: patriot07
All in all, I'm just glad to see we have an IRS team member on the forum. I bet you aren't a Ted Cruz fan?

You would be assuming wrong twice in one post.


Interesting to see a couple of Liberals in this forum who resort to insults and personal attacks on people whom they do not agree with despite proof being posted. It's not surprising because you all do that, just interesting to see you in this group. Glad to see you two joining the hunting forum.
I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but I was kidding. Sorry it didn't come across between the combination of memes and sarcastic posts.
Posted By: yotehater

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 09:51 PM

"Do as Ah say, Not as Ah do."

Those expensive scopes and guns just got more expensive.

Pay up sucker.
Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/05/18 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Payne
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
[quote=scottfromdallas]From the comptroller.texas.gov

Do I owe tax on goods purchased via mail-order catalogs or online?

Yes. A seller who uses catalogs or the internet to sell goods is treated the same as any other seller of taxable items. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located in Texas, you owe Texas sales tax on the purchase. If you purchase merchandise through a catalog or online from a seller located outside of Texas and use the taxable item in Texas, you owe Texas use tax on the purchase. An out-of-state mail-order company or an internet company may hold a Texas Sales and Use tax permit and collect Texas tax. If the out-of-state seller does not have a Texas permit or does not


I will go away now. Bye cruel world. hanged


See ya, scottfromthegynecologist. We'll miss you, boo.



Cut it out


I'm sure he knows I'm joking around.
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 01:17 AM

I'm still in my safe space. I'll try to get the courage to start posting again tomorrow.
Posted By: Jgraider

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
I'm still in my safe space. I'll try to get the courage to start posting again tomorrow.


Take your time.......No sense pushing it. laugh
Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 02:45 AM

Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
I'm still in my safe space.


The trunk of your Prius?
Posted By: scottfromdallas

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 02:56 AM

Oh boy. Now I have to stay in longer. I'll be back Sunday.
Posted By: David Maas

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: aggiehunter03
You can buy it at Cabela's and walk out with it. Of course they will bend you over on price and by the time they call your number Buds will ship it.


I went last night to pick up a Benelli M2 that I bought thru their customer service because they matched Dunn's online price. I was there for over an hour just to pick up an gun that was paid for and ready for pick up. The parking lot had a couple dozen cars on the north side of the building, none across the "creek" to the east and maybe a 1/2 dozen to the south. Everything in the Bargain Cave was at full retail price of online sellers. I'd be surprised if they are open in a year. What I did look at was over priced. The service was sub-par as well, the guy helping me asked me for my drivers license no less than 4 times.
Posted By: Choctaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 03:59 PM

The Cabelas guys in Allen are a surly bunch.
Posted By: Nogalus Prairie

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Choctaw
The Cabelas guys in Allen are a surly bunch.


“Anyway, whacking a surly Cabela’s gun-counter man ain’t much of a crime.”

Posted By: patriot07

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 04:48 PM

I went to Cabela's in Allen a few weeks ago for the first time in forever and they were really nice, but I only went to the fishing/camping areas, not the guns.
Posted By: Choctaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted By: Choctaw
The Cabelas guys in Allen are a surly bunch.


“Anyway, whacking a surly Cabela’s gun-counter man ain’t much of a crime.”




clap
Posted By: colt45-90

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 09:02 PM

we need some of you know it alls to go to work for cabelas, academy etc...
Posted By: Choctaw

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 09:07 PM

Originally Posted By: colt45
we need some of you know it alls to go to work for cabelas, academy etc...


I have worked in law enforcement for over 30 years. In that time I have treated even some of the most vile criminals with courtesy and respect. Certainly more courtesy and respect than I have received at Cabelas in Allen. If a person is in a customer service position but lacks customer service skills, it's time to move on.
Posted By: garyrapp55

Re: Buds Guns, acting like everyone else now - 04/06/18 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: colt45
we need some of you know it alls to go to work for cabelas, academy etc...


you're assuming I don't already stir
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