6.8 SPC Dissipator

My first 6.8 SPC. Wanted something semi auto, different, and something different to mammal hunt with.

Bushmaster lower with a Timney
Model 1 6.8 barrel
Cheap bolt and carrier
Anderson upper receiver
Vortex Viper 4-16x44
http://www.blackgunswood.com furniture
misc parts from Midway

Was a fun build. No time to shoot coming up.

Wood furniture looks great

Looks great Chickenhead

I agree. Well done Sir.

That's really cool.

I dig it.

Uh ok.....

You put a ridiculously high powered scope on a gun that shoots a not-so-long-range round, and has a fsp in the way. Not well thought out.

I don't find the scope to be overly powered for this application.

The front sight is not visible in the reticle.

16x is to much? Maybe co-witness? great looking gun!

Looks nice. Glad you used that wood furniture, every time I see it in the classifieds I think about buying it.

The scope may be a bit much for a 6.8 but if it works, and especially if he already has it, is it a problem? FSP in the way? Have you looked through a scope with post still in place?

A 4x scope is "ridiculously high-powered"?

So the 5-20X on my LR-308 is way too much?

800 yards sure is easier with it.

And we've run a 6.8 SPC to 700 yards on my range with several customer's rifles.

What constitutes "a not-so-long range round"?
What is wrong with more zoom? Some people like shot placement.

Looks like an AK47 and AR15 had a baby. Lol.

The only negative thing is that I would like to reverse the mount to fit a buis.

Well, the other negative aspect is that I don't have a can for it.....yet.

It’s not a long range round. I own one. Even your 308 doesn’t need it.

Need is relative to the end user. In my case, I have the choice of 3 scopes. And they have these top magnification choices 20X, 21X, 25X

I'll repeat myself, 800 yards sure is easier with it.

This is Texas, a guy can put as much scope on a rifle as he wishes.

The hell does need have to do with anything?

I am beginning to think it means JG has more trolls that Dreamworks

Looks that way often, huh?

Indeed. They sure are coming out of the woodwork not that season is over though.

He's talking about a round that could benefit from a higher powered scope. I was specifically talking about a 6.8. Thing is though, even that much scope would be overkill. His deal is that in every thread regarding shooting; he somehow has to insert how good he shoots even if it has nothing to do with the subject. I don't care that he shoots 800 yards, and that it's easier. We get that you can shoot.


Too much scope can actually hurt shooting. He has too much scope on his rifle that doesn't shoot a round designed for long range.

Some people do not have the spine to admit they are wrong, and walk away.

I am not inserting how well I can shoot, this is a discussion you decided to have about a man's scope, you are passing judgement on. Well, he didn't ask your damn opinion about his scope and several people have come to his aid, against you. This thread is about a rifle and you're making it be something else.

I’m not wrong though. He’s using too much scope. His build is terrible. He has a stupid high power scope on a shorter barreled rifle, chambered in a mediocre range cartridge. Some people have no business assembling rifles.

I have a Tasco 4x15mm somewhere. I guess I'll put that on.

OMG!!!

Great looking rifle Chickenman! The wood gives it a nice refined look. FWIW, I have a 6-24 scope on a 22lr. Not a long range cartridge but I plan to shoot tiny targets with it. To each his own...

Some people have no business meddling in other peoples business. You've proved that many times over.

You ARE wrong. It's not too much scope. His build works for him so how does that affect you? Perhaps you are cheap and aren't putting enough scope on your rifles. Maybe you would be a better shooter with "mediocre range cartridges" if you had more zoom on your scope.

Nice build! Gues tenyearsgine wouldnt like my 12.5" 6.8 with that big burris fullfield ii e1 4.5-14x42 on it! Love that rifle and scope for it.

have fun with it and go kill some stuff
Great hunting round for Texas and we have taken a lot of deer and hogs and a few coyotes

Good ole dd28. Still a prick and a genius in his own mind

That's your opinion which I personally believe you are wrong. On what page in the gun assembling manual that you wrote does it list proper magnification for the 6.8??? If their are no FACTS supporting your claim then it's your opinion. You've gave your opinion now move on and make sure to post some of your awesome rifles that you've assembled.

He wouldn't last 5 minutes at a fire ststion, would he?

And this kids is what we like to call a douchebag.

Great rifle boss! Love that wood!

Hell NO!!!

Here’s one I quickly pulled up. Quite a bit of others and my personal experience. I own a 6.8. It’s not a long range rifle.

https://www.buckmasters.com/Magazines/GunHunter/Articles/ID/196/Are-You-Using-Too-Much-Scope

As for my rifles:

This is just one of 8 I’ve built.



.223 currently shooting 5 shot .2 moa groups thanks to a LaRue barrel and good technique. Scope? 2.5x8. I know what I’m doing. Trust me, I know if it was anyone else it’d be “nice rifle”. That’s not even my most accurate one. All my rifles, save for one 3x9, use the same scope.

Please, you know nothing about my past. All because my opinion differs. Let’s just say I’ve hunted the ultimate quarry in some hot and sandy places with a crew at least as motley as firemen. In case you are too dense to notice; there’s a compliment in there.

That's the great thing about being a Texan, Freedom. OP never said it was a long range rifle, he can do whatever he wants with his gun.

Then he has the wrong scope on it.

The point was, when a guy is wrong around our camp, the best thing he can do is own that he is wrong, and there won't be any problems. When he doesn't own that he is wrong, and digs in his heels, things can become quite miserable. I am not dense at all. Soldiers, Marines, SWAT, FD, all men working tightly together in some less than comfortable situations, looking out for each other. And when one steps out of line the pile can ensue. You must have been sqadded with some very patient, nice men.

I would think an expert such as yourself would know it’s 2.5-8 and 3-9. Not 2.5x8 and 3x9.

And you’ve got too much scope mount on that rifle. 6 screw rings with rails? What are you trying to prove?

JG,

I’m not wrong though. He doesn’t need such a high power scope unless he’s using something crazy like a 50 or 338 Lapua. He’s hurting his shooting and making his rifle unnecessarily cumbersome if he doesn’t ever zoom in. USMC snipers use a fixed 10x. You don’t see them having problems. Carlos Hathcock used what, a 3x9? Buying a Hubble telescope doesn’t account for good training. On a side note (I know it’s a shocker); I need to refresh my lacking long range skills. See, I’m not a pompous know it all.

Opinions are rarely wrong or right. If somebody is happy with their build and it is doing what they want it to, then it’s not wrong, it’s just different than yours.

My new 10/22 build will have a 4-12x40 on it. It’s way more scope than most people use on a 22. I intend for this rifle to shoot tiny little groups at 75-100 yards. I want the magnification so I can see the dime sized dots I want to shoot at.

That I got a good price? It doesn’t hurt my shooting. I’m not sure how I feel about the rails. I guess they’re already there if I want a tiny reflex. Also, ever think it goes on other calibers?

Good thing I never said I was an expert in every single thing......

Wouldn’t finer crosshairs benefit more?

You realize he may never zoom in past 10 on a 4-16 right? But it’s good to know if he feels the need to he can go to 16. It’s no different than having a 2.5-10 and keeping it on 10 for most shots lol. That scope wouldn’t be my choice either for that rifle but that’s nice t my rifle so it doesn’t matter as long as he is happy. I’ve ised red dots, 1-4, 1-6, 1-8, 3x9, and 2.5-10 on my 16 inch 6.8 and I was able to hit 12 inch metal plate out to 500 with all of them. 1-4 wasn’t ideal but wasn’t all that tough either. Guns and scopes are tools and everyone prefers different tools for different reasons like eye sight. So as many have said he isn’t over scopes bc it’s built for his needs.

Maybe he got the scope at a great price and he switches it from his 6.8 to his 375. See how that can work?

it’s a 4-12 fine duplex

Still doesn’t need it on a 6.8. Buy a better suited scope.

Just like you don’t need that mount, yet, here we are. You both have things, and you both like them. /thread

Mount isn’t hurting my shooting. You can’t win, because I have posted facts.

you have posted an opinion and one that is wrong at that but good try.

Go read the article.

I didn't see any links to an article

Man sized targets are huge.

I have shot against Fort Sill Army snipers. Those were not the optics they were using. And they said all of us were nuts. Small targets, far away, lots of wind. They finished in the middle of 120 shooters.

Article is an opinion and not fact. There are no FACTS out there that list a certain magnification range for calibers. It is based on preference of the shooter. Some people like more mag than others and some like less. Therefore it is not the wrong scope for that gun if the shooter wants it.

This thread has made me smile,
why get so worked up over someone else's rifle, He is not asking you to shoot it.

Chickenman--

nice rifle, I can make you a good deal on a Leupold mark 4 CQ/T , then everyone can sleep at
night

MO

I really like the wood furniture.
It's not just another cookie cutter AR.
Go shoot it and have fun with it.

Not a single one of the 300+ pigs I've killed with my 6.8s has ever said anything about using too much magnification.

No he doesn't, just because you have an opinion doesn't make it a fact.

what a clown

Yep it’s time for the winter urinary olympics

People also don’t need more than one gun, having multiple is dumb and a dangerous arsenal. I’m sure I could find tons of articles about that.

he's just another person that knows best for everyone and will argue it to the end there’s one in every crowd

Ah chit, no sense in trying to debate one's preferences. How about we all just agree that I am the best looking guy on THF?

Otherwise

That article was garbage. One person's opinion trying to justify low power scopes based on "what if".
For example:


He seems to think that everyone should be using 4x scopes with 1" tubes on all rifles because it is easier to find a target with a wide field of view, it "gave a clearer view of my target (which has become increasingly important to aging eyes) and allowed me to place my shots with greater precision", and it is lighter to carry. He also thinks the bigger the round, the smaller the scope should be.

Sorry, but nobody should be reading that article and using it for suggestions.

I also have a 10/22. I shoot pieces of paper, cans, and turtles with it. I use a Nikon 4x fixed. A 4x12 is a ridiculously high powered scope for rimfire. Your build is all wrong. I have owned and modified 1 10/22 and I know what is best for you. Your 4x12 on a 10/22 is too cumbersome to sit on bags. Please revise your build.

You had me going for a second there.

I was hoping to

[censored], doesn't make me any difference. 4x or 24x I can earhole a pig out to 400 yds with my AR. I only shoot 5.56 though because .223 won't reach that far.

But if you read that article, the ace shooter with bad eyes (he says that) recommends going with smaller scopes with less zoom as you increase in caliber and recoil. He recommends a 1.5x4.5 Weaver scope with a one inch tube and small objective for large calibers. That should mean that you should have a bigger scope wirh more zoom as you decrease in caliber and recoil. So clearly a 4x12 with a 40mm objective is not enough scope. You should be using at LEAST a 4.8x35 with a 60mm objective and a 36mm tube on a .22 rim fire or you are not doing it right. The following scope should be considered a good starting point.

.22 LR Rifle Scope

https://www.opticsplanet.com/sky-watcher-esprit-150mm-ed-triplet-apo-refractor.html

mounted with

https://www.uline.com/Grp_63/Duct-Tape?p...mp;gclsrc=aw.ds

All the experts are using em.

Sorry Toxarch, I don't read too good no way.

I have one of those on my crossman. Not enough scope.

"I can shoot the fleas off a dog's back at 500 yards, Tannen. And it's pointed right at your head."

Great looking rifle, different than most and that's why I like it.
Now the entertainment from the "debate" on your optics has been priceless.

No kidding