Posted By: BigPig
PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 03:54 AM
Dad’s PSA AR10 308 has decided to piss me off and stop firing. It sounds like the hammer is still hitting the firing pin with good force, but there are zero firing pin marks on the primer. We took the bolt apart prior to hunting because we had a blown primer and there was quite a bit of powder in the bolt. Everything cleaned, oiled, and put back together. Firing pin and everything moves freely.
What gives?
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 03:56 AM
Call Kyle. Frigging JG junior
Posted By: KRoyal
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 04:31 AM
Take a pic of the BCG for me
Posted By: BigPig
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 04:41 AM
Call Kyle. Frigging JG junior
I was trying to line of 3 turkeys this weekend and it decided to fail to fire. If it wasn’t dad’s gun it would’ve been hurled at the turkeys I was so mad.
Posted By: BigPig
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 04:42 AM
Take a pic of the BCG for me
Will do tomorrow.
You should consult with Beez and I before employing a new logo
Posted By: KRoyal
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 04:50 AM
Take a pic of the BCG for me
Will do tomorrow.
You should consult with Beez and I before employing a new logo
Lol no y'all should quit seeing things.
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 04:56 AM
Take a pic of the BCG for me
Will do tomorrow.
You should consult with Beez and I before employing a new logo
Lol no y'all should quit seeing things.
Who is yall in this... That is what I want to know...
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 05:54 AM
Call Kyle. Frigging JG junior
I was trying to line of 3 turkeys this weekend and it decided to fail to fire. If it wasn’t dad’s gun it would’ve been hurled at the turkeys I was so mad.
I somehow forgot I need to be nice to you right now
That went out the effing window quick.
Posted By: Tye
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 11:33 AM
Did you inspect the firing pin tip? Was the BCG fully engaging into the receiver? Got a pic of the dented primer?
Posted By: VAFish
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 01:24 PM
So gun was working fine. You had a blown primer, took the bolt apart, cleaned it and put it back together and now gun doesn't work.
Whenever something mechanical is giving me problems I look at the last thing I did to it as the first source of problems.
I see two strong possibilities.
1. Your blown primer damaged the tip of the firing pin causing light strikes.
2. Something in your bolt stripping and cleaning was not done correctly. Either you still have some powder, and bits of metal in the firing pin channel, (my strongest suspicion is that you still have a small piece of primer in there blocking things) or you put something back together incorrectly. (and knowing AR BCG's like I do I can't think of how you could do that and still have the firing pin moving freely.
With the BCG out of the gun can you press forward on the back of the firing pin and see how much protrudes from the bolt face?
My bet is the firing pin retaining pin was installed before the firing pin.
Posted By: KRoyal
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 02:19 PM
My bet is the firing pin retaining pin was installed before the firing pin.
Yep this is where I'm leaning. If the firing pin is moving freely as in not staying in place, the pin was installed before the firing pin and its not allowing the firing pin to go as far forward as it should. Was waiting for a pic, but this is what I'm leaning towards.
Posted By: ChadTRG42
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 03:22 PM
The blown primer raises my red flag. Lots can cause problems from this.
Posted By: J.G.
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 03:39 PM
I have never touched this rifle.
I have never touched this rifle.
Around it? Near it? In the same area code?
Posted By: J.G.
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 04:10 PM
I have never touched this rifle.
Around it? Near it? In the same area code?
None of those either. This one is not on me, 100%.
Posted By: Bee'z
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 04:54 PM
I have never touched this rifle.
Around it? Near it? In the same area code?
The rifle in question was in Sherman Friday afternoon. I suspect that was close enough
Posted By: KRoyal
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 05:04 PM
I have never touched this rifle.
Around it? Near it? In the same area code?
The rifle in question was in Sherman Friday afternoon. I suspect that was close enough
You'd be surprised just how little it takes for Jason to mess up a gas gun.
Posted By: J.G.
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 05:38 PM
Yeah, and I made this a few weeks ago. (Not sure why it's sideways)
Posted By: BigPig
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/07/17 06:19 PM
I’ll look at the bolt and try to post some pics. It was factory Hornady ammo that blew the primer
Posted By: RiverRider
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/08/17 11:54 AM
I’ll look at the bolt and try to post some pics. It was factory Hornady ammo that blew the primer
Gotta wonder if there's something else going on with the gun, in that case.
Posted By: Payne
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/08/17 08:27 PM
I've had Hornady factory ammo blow primers in 22-250 & 308, both were bolt guns.
Posted By: BigPig
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/08/17 09:21 PM
I’ll look at the bolt and try to post some pics. It was factory Hornady ammo that blew the primer
Gotta wonder if there's something else going on with the gun, in that case.
This gun is 3 years old. Has always had an adjustable gas block, and has always shot this particular round from Hornady. Haven’t had a chance to look at the gun yet, maybe tomorrow
Posted By: RiverRider
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/08/17 10:32 PM
I’ll look at the bolt and try to post some pics. It was factory Hornady ammo that blew the primer
Gotta wonder if there's something else going on with the gun, in that case.
This gun is 3 years old. Has always had an adjustable gas block, and has always shot this particular round from Hornady. Haven’t had a chance to look at the gun yet, maybe tomorrow
I've had Hornady factory ammo blow primers in 22-250 & 308, both were bolt guns.
Well heck, I dunno what to think. I guess ya just have to be there.
The more I read, the more I think the misfire problem is an incorrectly assembled BCG.
Posted By: BigPig
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/09/17 12:50 AM
The more I read, the more I think the misfire problem is an incorrectly assembled BCG.
If it was incorrectly assembled what would I look for? It blew the primer during a rage session and I didn’t know it until a few rounds later when It stopped firing. Packed it up and took it home. Took the bolt apart and cleaned it, reassembled and test fired opening weekend. It worked just fine. This isn’t my first time stripping and cleaning a bolt.
Posted By: J.G.
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/09/17 01:32 AM
I've had Hornady factory ammo blow primers in 22-250 & 308, both were bolt guns.
I've seen Hornady load at maximum, more than once. Back when I bought centerfire ammo, I had brand new Hornady .22-250 split necks on the first firing.
The more I read, the more I think the misfire problem is an incorrectly assembled BCG.
If it was incorrectly assembled what would I look for? It blew the primer during a rage session and I didn’t know it until a few rounds later when It stopped firing. Packed it up and took it home. Took the bolt apart and cleaned it, reassembled and test fired opening weekend. It worked just fine. This isn’t my first time stripping and cleaning a bolt.
So it’s an ammo issue... go shoot something else through the rifle.
Posted By: OkieDokie
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/09/17 03:21 AM
The more I read, the more I think the misfire problem is an incorrectly assembled BCG.
If it was incorrectly assembled what would I look for? It blew the primer during a rage session and I didn’t know it until a few rounds later when It stopped firing. Packed it up and took it home. Took the bolt apart and cleaned it, reassembled and test fired opening weekend. It worked just fine. This isn’t my first time stripping and cleaning a bolt.
So it’s an ammo issue... go shoot something else through the rifle.
My sarcasm meter just blew up.
Posted By: OkieDokie
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/12/17 07:04 PM
Did you get it fixed and if so what was the cure inquiring minds want to know.
Posted By: BigPig
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/12/17 08:27 PM
Did you get it fixed and if so what was the cure inquiring minds want to know.
Had it looked at, best we can figure is the hammer spring. If you place your finger in front of it and pull the trigger, there is almost no pressure when it hits your finger
Posted By: OkieDokie
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/12/17 10:00 PM
That would be an easy fix.
Posted By: BigPig
Re: PSA 308 not firing - 12/12/17 10:17 PM
That would be an easy fix.
Yup. Don’t know why I didn’t think of it before.