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Boyds At-One Stock not fitting

Posted By: KRoyal

Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/21/17 10:14 PM

Well ordered a Boyds At-One stock for my Ruger American Rimfire. Stock came very quickly which is a plus and the stock itself looks amazing. I like it a lot and the cheek piece and the adjustable comb is great too.

Now the bad.... the Ruger has 2 V blocks that you remove from the factory stock. The back one is the extractor, mag release, and bedding block all in one. I put them in the Boyds stock and the barreled action just kind of rocked back and forth and wouldn't sit into place like it should. I finally got it semi solid and I tried to screw in the action screws. Neither would even come close to touching the barreled action more less actually catch a thread. I pull the barreled action off and put the screw through just the bedding block to see how much I have to work with. It doesn't even clear the top of the bedding block. So I started my google foo and found some people saying you needed longer action screws. So I go to lowes and Home Depot only to find they don't carry specialty screws like these. Tried a local gun shop and they don't carry them either. bang

So I call Boyds only to have a message taken and promised a call back which I haven't received.

Knowing that sometimes it could just be me doing [censored] wrong I take another crack at it. Again same thing... FML. So I get the old stock and put everything back together and fits like a glove perfectly. Take it all back down and put the front bedding black in and notice it sits perfectly flush with the milling of the stock. However the rear bedding block does not sit flush it sits about 1/8th of an inch high. It can't go any lower in the stock since the grooves that are milled into the side of the stock only go down so far. So I take out the rear bedding block and put the barreled action in and bam everything fits perfectly and the front action screw is a perfect fit.

Got an email into Boyds with pictures to see what they're going to do about it. I'm not a happy camper about it, but as long as they make it right I really love the stock overall.

First 2 pics shows how the screw doesn't even clear the bedding block. The last one is a void that was machined out which shouldn't have been.








Posted By: Sneaky

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/21/17 10:30 PM

That’s a wicked looking stock. It’d look a lot better with a barreled action in it, though.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/21/17 10:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Sneaky
That’s a wicked looking stock. It’d look a lot better with a barreled action in it, though.


Haha yes it would indeed.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 12:24 AM

The last four McMillans I've had my hands on needed work. And those are $550+ stocks. But they were needing some light fitting correction.

When you need action screws, go see your local Fastenal store. If they don't have what you need, they often will the next day. Fastenal is aces.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
The last four McMillans I've had my hands on needed work. And those are $550+ stocks. But they were needing some light fitting correction.

When you need action screws, go see your local Fastenal store. If they don't have what you need, they often will the next day. Fastenal is aces.


Yea fastenal was where the gun store pointed me to. I'm waiting to take a dremel to it before Boyds gets back to me.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 01:02 AM

that sux, sorry you even have to screw with it. Dang thing should drop right in
Posted By: D6Ranch

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 02:56 AM

I recently "finished" a American in 6.5 into a Boyd's and had a lot of issues myself. The barrel channel was milled off center and the mag well milled too deep. I finally got it halfway fitted after opening up the barrel channel and making a shim so the magazine will lock in.

I still need to bed the action but it's good enough to hunt with for now. I won't be buying another Boyd's after seeing too many issues. In fact I may scrub this stock and get the magpul one. I just wanted a nice wood laminated stock. cry
Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 03:08 AM

I know we have been texting. Just had to post up one that was complete. Lol

I still say get after it with a dremel.


Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 03:10 AM

It appears that you got the vertical grip. I never saw that option when I purchased mine, and still dont see it in the accessories page.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 03:13 AM

Yea it was an option when I ordered mine. Think it's in the store under accessories that's where I found it. lol I'm waiting on Boyds before I touch it.
Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 03:14 AM

I need that. I'll check out the page.
Posted By: Judd

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 10:31 PM

I doubt they’ll do anything, that’s Boyd’s...”some fitting required sometimes”.

Great looking stock...both of them.
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 11:26 PM

I have two Boyds stocks, just regular walnut sporters and both actions just dropped in place. The extra fitting doesn't surprise me but I am surprised that Boyds doesn't enclose a couple of longer bedding screws for the Ruger action.

BTW, the Ruger casting looks like it was done in Romania or Pakistan. I thought it was spot-welded for a minute or the camera was out of focus...
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/22/17 11:33 PM

I should be able to dremel it out pretty easily but if I can get it taken care of without me having to deal with it, that would be great lol.

Yea Cole the casting of the bedding blocks is very rough and looks like pot metal.
Posted By: Txhillbilly

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 03:51 AM

KRoyal,I know that I have had to use longer action screws on every Savage action that came out of a synthetic stock. The factory screws are too short when using a Boyd's laminate stock.
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 12:13 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever had a Boyd’s stock that didn’t take some work to fit.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Txhillbilly
KRoyal,I know that I have had to use longer action screws on every Savage action that came out of a synthetic stock. The factory screws are too short when using a Boyd's laminate stock.

The factory stock was a laminate stock as well. Not sure if that matters, but it wasn't synthetic.


Originally Posted By: jhenderson
I don’t think I’ve ever had a Boyd’s stock that didn’t take some work to fit.

Lol this just seems like a lot of "fitting" I've never bought an actual laminate, wood, or fiberglass stock before. I've always used Chassis and AR parts it just boggles my mind how AR and chassis manufactures can get extremely close tolerances and prefect drop in fits but the guys making gun gun stocks for a living cant even get close.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 01:51 PM

The Boyds for my Savage 308 required some fitting as well. Dremel took care of it.

For a screw, I agree that I'd probably try to find the right one before I'd take a dremel to it. But if all else failed, I'd do what I had to do to make it fit.

That's a freaking awesome looking stock.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 01:52 PM

If Fastenal really didn't carry it, you should be able to find what you need on McMaster carr. They have literally everything.
Posted By: Judd

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 02:05 PM

I don't think once he uses his Dremel he'll need new stock bolts...that's how far off the inletting is in that area.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 02:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Judd
I don't think once he uses his Dremel he'll need new stock bolts...that's how far off the inletting is in that area.


Right, once I get the inletting correct with the Dremel I won't need different action bolts.

Also I didn't go to Fastenal they were closed at that time so idk if they had a longer screw or not. After figuring out that the inletting was so off it wasn't letting the action sit in the stock correctly a longer action bolt wouldn't fix the problem my action would still ride about 1/8th of an inch too high and probably wouldn't hit the broad side of a barn LOL.
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 03:45 PM

How big will the barn have to be after you do the surgery? lol35

Sorry, couldn't resist. You young fellows need some humor in your lives.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/23/17 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: blackcoal
How big will the barn have to be after you do the surgery? lol35

Sorry, couldn't resist. You young fellows need some humor in your lives.


Ha, have no clue.
Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 05:54 AM

Did you ever hear back from Boyds?
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 12:02 PM

send it all to Boyds, let them do it

suks
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 01:36 PM

Originally Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta
Did you ever hear back from Boyds?

Nope patiently waited all day yesterday with no call back from my message on Friday or my email on Saturday. Will give them probably until Wednesday to respond and then I'm breaking out the Dremel. up

Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
send it all to Boyds, let them do it

suks


I would, but with the level of CS I've gotten out of them so far I'd probably never see the stock or my money again rofl
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 08:24 PM

Well just got a call back from Boyds..... bang

The lady I talked to basically wanted me to try it without the rear bedding block which is also the mag release and extractor....

I finally just told her I was going to dremel it. She said sir just and FYI that will probably void your warranty. rofl

After it all she wanted to give me an RMA and have me return the stock to let their engineers look at it and if it was a manufacturing process error they would fix it or replace it. Asked her how long that would take and she said gee hard to tell. Anywhere from 3-15 days from time of possession. I know thats nothing, but I'm pissed at the whole situation and don't really feel like going through the trouble of packaging it back up, taking it to UPS, sitting and waiting, then getting another back that still might now work. Kind of over the situation and going to deal with it myself.
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 08:58 PM

Ryobi time.... bang
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 08:59 PM

Chain saw would be quicker...
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: blackcoal
Ryobi time.... bang


Haha nope my rotary tool of choice is still Dremel.
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 09:19 PM

You are not buffing/polishing the trigger sear on a H&H double, you are doing some inletting on glue and wood. Get a Worksmith router bit set from northern tool, chuck it into your drill and "gitterdun"
nidea
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 10:40 PM

Well I now have a paper weight rofl the barrel channel is made for a sporter barrel and mine is a bull barrel. Website wasn't very clear about it. Got dremeled out and everything fit great but my barrel is no longer free floated and barrel doesn't really fit in the channel. FML...
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 10:42 PM

Well damn man. Hate to hear that Kyle
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 11:08 PM

It's all good by god I'm gonna make it work rofl I got to go to a bday dinner but this [censored] ain't over. I got it roughly sanded down to fit in barrel channel. Some finish sanding should do the trick.
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/24/17 11:19 PM

Originally Posted By: KRoyal
It's all good by god I'm gonna make it work rofl I got to go to a bday dinner but this [censored] ain't over.


rofl That is funny.
Posted By: P_102

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/25/17 10:09 AM

"When you're up to your a$$ in alligators, it's difficult to remember that your main objective was to drain the swamp."

Keep at it, Kyle!

P_102
Posted By: J.G.

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/25/17 12:16 PM

Emory cloth will make that barrel channel perfectly match the barrel.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/25/17 01:03 PM

Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Emory cloth will make that barrel channel perfectly match the barrel.


Thanks for the tip I'll YouTube it.
Posted By: Judd

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/25/17 01:46 PM

wrap the emory cloth around a smaller piece of PVC that is about the size of your barrel. That is just a small bump in the road...the inletting would have ticked me off more...but it might've been the barrel causing the other issue.

You're on the way to recovery and be glad you did it once it's over...at least that is normally my feelings on crap like this.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/25/17 02:56 PM

Kindling ???
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/25/17 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Judd
wrap the emory cloth around a smaller piece of PVC that is about the size of your barrel. That is just a small bump in the road...the inletting would have ticked me off more...but it might've been the barrel causing the other issue.

You're on the way to recovery and be glad you did it once it's over...at least that is normally my feelings on crap like this.


Thanks for the tip. Na, the inletting was way off for the rear bedding block to even fit all the way in. Got that taken care of and discovered this LOL.
Posted By: Sigmund

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/27/17 02:57 AM

I was just back in South Dakota last week, drove right past their factory several times. I wanted to take my Rimfire in there to see if they would make a pro varmint stock to fit for it (it has the same barrel channel issue) hoping I would get better results if I walked in their front door, but I didn’t have the time...

I didn’t see this post until I got back home. That’s a great looking stock! It’s going to look even better when it’s all put together.

If you’re looking for some HV ammo to try in the American Rimfire target, I found the federal American Eagle 38gr hollow points did pretty well at 50y. Still need to try it at 100Y. https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/federal...ildCatid=811012
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/27/17 12:59 PM

Thanks, I got some SV ammo and some mini mags to try in it. Haven't made it to the range yet. Going to get some emory cloth this weekend and get the barrel channel sanded down and refinished with some satin poly coat.
Posted By: Txhillbilly

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 10/27/17 01:10 PM

Kyle, I have to open up the barrel channel on every stock I've bought from Boyds. Get a foot long piece of 3/4" pvc pipe, wrap it with some 120 grit sandpaper, and start sanding.
It doesn't take long to get it done. Then reseal the wood when done, I use Tung oil.
Posted By: CharlieSierraDelta

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 11/02/17 04:28 AM

Did you ever get it working right Kyle?
Posted By: RiverRider

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 11/02/17 10:36 AM

Be careful sanding that barrel channel. It's REAL easy to flare it at the forward end.
Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 11/02/17 12:06 PM

Man been so busy I haven't even got to revisit it. This Saturday I should finally have some time to get it done.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Boyds At-One Stock not fitting - 11/02/17 01:27 PM

and the saga continues
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