Weatherby Vanguard rifles

Looking to the masses for advice once again. Looking at the Weatherby Vanguard rifle in .223

Supposedly these shoot sub- MOA groups right out of the box. I also like the fact the trigger pull can be adjusted down to less than 3 pounds.

So, any known issues and if you own one please let me know if your happy with the performance and accuracy. Thanks fellas.

I have a W.V. in 300wsm, trigger was super easy to adjust, It's a good hunting rifle but mine is not sub MOA kind.

I have one in .270. I can put 5 rounds in a 2 inch circle at 200 yards with just sandbags. A real shooter could probably do much better.

Great rifles. Own a couple of them and have had way more issues with my Remingtons than the vanguards.

Dunno if this issue still exists like it did on all the V Mk I's I ever saw...but I'd look at floating the barrel and doing a glass bedding job while tuning the trigger. All of the 1st Gen barrel channels I've seen were tight as tree bark regardless of wood or synthetic stocks. Otherwise excellent accuracy is reportedly common.
Ron

This helps a lot. Thank you fellas.

I have one in .300 wby.

Shoots very well. I'm hoping to shoot it over 1k yards soon.

My buddy has one in 25-06, the rifle can out shoot us any day. Definitely a great rifle for the money!

Just got one in 7mm08 for my son
Shooting a .3" group first time out..

Bought one in .257 Wby. couple of years ago and it shoots great. Wish I had waited on the Series II now-Dave Petzal of Field and Stream raved about it on "Gun Nuts" last week.

I bought one for my Grandson. It came with the target in the box. It shoots good but I had a heckuva time building a good load for it.

I have a buddy that has one in .243 Win. and it is a tack driver with hand loads. Does VERY well with factory loads as well, will pull just under an inch with Remington 100 grain Core-Lokts.

The lightweight barrels on the Vanguard II has a pressure point on the forearm.
I usually want a free floated barrel but after speaking with Weatherby I decided not to mess with it unless I couldn't get it it to shoot well.

I know I got luck with this one sample with the first load I tried but I will take it!
TGR

http://tacticalgunreview.com/blog/2013/07/barnes-vortex-7mm-08-120g-ttsx-ammo/

I need to do that with mine.. the furthest I've shot on paper is 425 yards. I would need a refrigerator box for a target tho.. that a long ways...

Have one in 270 very accurate

I wouldn't do anything to it before I shot it. Remember it is Guaranteed to shoot sub MOA. So before you go to making changes to the gun send it back. I can assure you Weatherby will either make it shoot sub Moa or replace it.
Any modifications you do to a new gun will almost always void any warranties and relieve the manufacturer from any liability.

Ditto. Bought my Vanguard in this caliber and it is a grouping machine.

All kidding aside, after being in the gun bidnizz a long time ago...I Jist Luv to hear folks drink the Advertising Kool Aide . Lets me know that Madison Ave's Advertisng still works.

I feel certain that Garuunteee has been lawerized to the n'th degree and has more escape hatchs than you can imagine without a Harvard Law Degree ...Just sayin' BTDT on both sides of that he said/she said deal.

Good advice though about not jacking with something from NIB until you have a problem or it doan't work 'zactly as advertised.

But I am not only old ...I am old school enough that I start carving on the barrel channel of every thing that comes home with me...well almost everything ...as a matter of just the initial cleaning of a new shooter, and forget whatever them pointyheaded engineers theat built the dang thing had to say about it.

I'd really like to hear a series of range trip progress reports with PICTURES.
Have Fun and takes lots of Range PICTURES!
Ron

I have two S2's; one in 308 and one in 243. Both shoot great with factory ammo. My kids and I used the 243 last year and shot 4 deer with it using plain old Remington Core Lokt's.

If I needed another rifle, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.

The only thing you may want to check is if the 223 version of the S2 has the right twist rate for the ammo you are looking to shoot.

I have a Vanguard in 308 and it will shoot sub MOA with the cheap Federal soft points from Wal-Mart. The trigger out of the box was 3 lbs exactly when I measured it.

I've got the Vanguard S2 in .270. Technically my first real gun and pretty decent sub MOA at 100 yards with couple of strays. I had a 3-9x40 but now have 4.5-14x40 and hoping it will help keep me in sub MOA.

I have had several of the older Vanguards, they were all shooters. I now have a 22-250 in the new S2, its lights out shooter. I will soon be getting a 243 as well.

For the money, you may not find a better shooting factory gun. I highly recommend them!

I don't have a .223, but do have one Vanguard in .308 and another in 30-06. Neither are my favorite rifles because they have synthetic stocks but I think both are excellent shooters and do not seems picky about ammo.

Thanks fellas. Really appreciate all the feedback. I handled several Weatherby's today, including the youth model.

Unfortunately I didn't like it, but did find something else I fell in love with and bought it.

I'll start a new thread later.

I just picked up a used Vangard this morning in .243 Win. and hopefully will be shooting it tomorrow. I didn't know they were 5+1 on capacity, which I like a lot. I also like the 24" barrel. The Bushnell Banner on it now will probably be switched out with a Nikon, we'll see what else will need to be changed after shooting.

Have you ever owned, shot, or taken advantage of their SUB moa warranty? I seriously doubt it by your reply. I am in the "gun bidnezz" now and have been for the past 25 years continuously. Their warranty is exactly as written. The first return is free and they shoot the gun, make adjustments if needed or replace it. When they return it it will have a target with the factory ammo used. If the customer has problems after that it is on the customer.

Huntwest. Nope never owned a SubMOA and most likely never will. It's a personal thing with me and anything that Weatherby sells. I don't NEED to own a Weatherby for any reason...unless I can get one so cheap it oughta be called stealing to use as Trade Bait.

After Roy died, and Jr took over the company, one of my best friends and that rarest of all things in the gun bidnizz...an honest competitor, Dudly Grounds, who had repped the Weatherby Line for 22 years & had never missed a quota, got screwed out of the line by a guy from Tyler Tx at that time, & LOL who has since dropped Weatherby some time ago in his journey to becoming a Major Player in the Rep bidnizz by the same kind of ?ethical business practices, and now lives in Nashville last I heard.

As you know, The Sporting Goods Rep bidnizz is a dog eat dog bidnizz & I understand that, since I spent 13 years in the gun bidnizz as a distributor for almost 7 years dealing with Reps of all kinds, and 6 years as a Stoeger Rgl Mgr, only to loose the line to Company Politics despite representing over 22% of the World SAKO sales as Salesman of the Year one year, placing Llama handguns in a 300 store chain where I could generate 5 times the volume of the previous years annual Llama sales & doubled Llama sales in my 5 state Territory outside of the chain store, and selling 500% of the Stoeger Publishing Co's total annual volume in an opening order, then got fired 2 hours later after Stoeger Inc accepted the Order so I would not get paid for it.

In Dec 1988, one of my customers, mebbe the 3rd largest S&W distributor in the US at the time, arranged for me to be offered the hottest selling handgun line in the US. A day later I turned Glock down & and 9 other related lines I had picked up in the first 6 hours after the initial Glock offer at the old Denver Wholesale Show, where I was intro'ing Bersa as a Consultant for George Sodini Jr & his Eagle Imports Company to the US Market.

I took Dudly into meet Gunther the next day and recommended him for the 5 state Territory Line, because I smelled the same ?? ethics at play in Georgia that I had just seen Dudly get screwed with by young Mr Weatherby, and had gotten screwed myself with at Stoeger...and have never looked back. As an old long departed uncle used to tell me who'd spent 50 years in the Womens Ready to Wear bidnizz as a Rep...it's a "bidnizz ladies" business...stay out of it unless your morals are the same....

I'm glad you believe in the Weatherby Warranty...Papa Nix in Lewisville did for 30 years and built a ethical business on Roy's Rifles, but Bill is in the Rep bidnizz now and last time I saw him he didn't have Weatherby...wonder why?
I don't believe in Weatherby, and won't ever have the opportunity to need the Warranty, and couldn't care less about it. JMHO & YMMV since you asked.
Ron