The 280 Remington

What so u guys think about the 280 Remington cartridge . Looking at getting one.

Have you looked at the 280AI? One of Ackley's best.

Improved or not, the 280 is an excellent choice.

I've got a remmy that is a shooter and hits like Thor's hammer

What's the range of the caliber.

I shoot a mod 70 280
Love that gun

Matter of fact, my uncle has 2 and cousin has one also.
Uncle shot a doe at nearly 700yds with his a few yrs back

What's the effective range of the caliber before it looses its knock down power

Almost identical to 7mag up til 500yds

Way farther than you (generally) can shoot it accurately.

Going to have one built in the very near future. Good choice of caliber.

280 Rem or 280 AI are both great calibers.
Effective range- well, we shot a 7mm-08 with a 162 A-max at 1780 yards, and made 2 hits on a 36" plate last weekend. So, it will go further than what most people can shoot to.

It's a fine caliber, and fully equal to the 270. I'm a 270 guy, so I can't admit that it might even be a teensy bit better. Nah...no way...

Lol

I'm on my third .280 and am a real fan of it. I do think it's a better cartridge than the .270 on account of heavier bullets being available in 7mm (not to mention the greater variety of 7mm bullets available). I will say this though: if you're not a handloader, you'll probably get a bit more out of a .270 because factory .280 ammo is loaded to lower pressures than the .270 is. BUt if you are a handloader, the .280 is definitely the way to go between the two.

As far as the AI cartridges go, the .280 Ackley Improved is the best of all the AI cartridges. Again, if you're not a handloader you'd have to find .280 AI ammo and it's not all that readily available. You CAN fire factory .280 Remington in the AI chamber safely and that's fine for fireforming cases for reloading, but I'd rather have the AI ammo on hand to take advantage of the AI's performance potential. I suppose you could even hunt with .280 Remington ammo in the .280 AI, but I couldn't vouch for the kind of accuracy you'd see.

Same here - a fellow I know pretty well is thinking of selling. Remington in 280 Rem, excellent condition, but he doesn't know what model (not much of gun person) and I have never seen it. Bolt, synthetic, stainless, muzzle brake (he had added after purchase), Leupold (he thinks it's a 4-12x50). He hasn't decided on price but he said maybe $1200.

I haven't checked out ammo costs and availability but supposing his price is right I may pull the trigger.

I know it's pretty vague but what's your thought??

-Mickey

I've got a Rem. 280 Mtn. Rifle that shoots great. Imagine 30.06 power with speed.

This. I think of the 280 as a better .30-06.

I have been a .270 guy for a very long time. I had a .280 built off of a Remington action last year. It is a shooter. I like it for the heavier bullet options if I want them. It is a pretty flat shooter also and my Mule Deer rifle now.

my wife has a tc pro hunter and loves it

Not even close.

If you wanted to shoot a .284 caliber I'd stick with either a 7mm-08 or a 7mm mag

i have 270 and 280 the only problem with 280 hard to find ammo at your average store. you can buy 270 and 30-06 anywhere.both great guns

If anyone of you guys decides to go with the 280 AI, I have one with a custom barrel and fully bedded stock. Email me at bow777@hotmail.com and I will send you some pics. I also have Alot of 280 ammo for it.

Identical in that they will both shoot .284 cal bullets but thats it. The 280 lags behind on an average of 250 to 300 fps no matter the bullet weight.

The 280AI is an almost equal to the 7mm Rem Mag and better IMO if you are gonna reload. It is a more efficient cartridge without having to jump to a belted case. You will also have better barrel life. Let us not forget the difference in recoil. If you dont reload, the 7mag is the way to go for sure because there are no factory produced ammo for it (Except for the new 280AI SAMMI).

Apples to apples the 280AI is still a bit slower than the 7mag, and the gap widens as the bullet weight goes up. You just can't overcome the case volume of the mag. Nosler is making some pretty wild claims on velocity with their data, everyone elses is more realistic.

Given a choice between the two rounds, I chose the 280AI. It is a much more efficient cartridge with noticeably less recoil than the mag, and brass life is reportedly better. I have no complaints so far in my choice, and would do it again. Not that there's a huge gap between the two, but a 7mag, it ain't.

I have one in Rem 700 Cdl SF.
Great gun and shooter.
Hardly no recoil with 140 gr boolits.

+1 on the .280/7mm Express get one, you won't be disappointed...

I understand choosing a 7 Mag over a .280 for its ability to push the heavier bullets faster, but I can't think of a thing the 7mm-08 does better than a .280, and especially if you handload. The .280 simply has more horsepower, and especially for a handloader.

Ditto RiverRider

7mm-08 to 280 (280 AI) to 7 Rem Mag is:

.308 Win to .30-06 to .300 Win Mag.

small, medium, large. Simple
Put a .30 cal 200 gr. in all the mentioned cartidges, load em as hot as it'll stand it and run five of each through the chrono. Fast, faster, fastest. Same projectile, increase it's speed and you increase energy delivery and recoil.

Same results with a 7mm 175 gr.

It is a great cartridge

My main hunting rifle the last two years is a Nosler 280 AI
My loads measure the same as Noslers data
140g Accubond at 3150 FPS
I have some 120 and 160g bullets to try but the 140 ABs seem about ideal for Whitetails out to 500
Fantastic round in my experience.

But I would advise against unless you are a handloader.

guy on our lease has one and loves his

I've been shooting .280 for about 25 years. Simpy put, the .280 shoots a 140 gr bullet on the same trajectory that .270 shoots a 130 gr bullet. More energy down range... I've owned three rifles in this caliber: Win M70 (stolen in '88. Still miss that gun....); Rem 700 Mountain rifle. Shot it for many years and never really loved it, which may have been partially an emotional thing as it was a replacement for the Winchester that stolen, but the Rem MR had a tapered barrel, light stock and the rig kicked harder than I enjoyed and wasn't especailly accurate, though I never missed a shot with it nor ever had to track a deer, so it was good enough. Traded it recently to my brother for a mid '80's model Ruber M77 tang safety in .280 that had been shot 24 times. Heavy gun, new cool optics, love it. Son-in-law shot his first deer with it last weekend. Now, the bad part... Yes, factory ammo is sometimes hard to find in large selections. I've been shooting the same ol' Remington Core-loct 140 gr for 25 years, and just keep plenty on hand / buy 'em when I find 'em. As previously stated, I've never tracked a deer shot with the .280. The 7mm bullett is a re-loader's dream if you into that. (And then there's that whole deal about me liking odd-ball calibers. I also own, and love, a .260 Rem and a .257 Roberts - each with a specific use, but the .280 will handle anything I'm ever going after.)

The 280 rocks, on my 2nd one. The 1st was a Winchester Featherweight and was an awesome gun. Let a bud talk me out of it. My current shooter is a Remington LSS 50th Anniversary. Probably my favorite rifle. Have it topped with Zeiss 4.5-14/50 and it loves Nosler 140 Accubonds pushed to the max with 4350. Since 07 when I got it we have taken 7 whitetails and one huge mule deer with one shot kills .

I’m a fan of the old Remington 6.5mm Magnum. It has the same case volume but in a shorter cartridge.

Nothing wrong with the 280.

alot of folks handload, but most don't.


there is alot better ammo selection with the 7mm-08 than the .280.

true on the ammo availability of a 7mm-08

I will at some point get a 7mm-08
I like the idea of pushing a 120 TTSX at 3k out of a 20" lightweight gun...


Oh, an on the 280AI, while I love mine, we all know a deer at 250 yards isn't going to know the difference compared to a 280

Shot Mule Deer, Whitetail, hogs and lots of paper with the 280, never had a problem when bullet was placed right where it counted, have owned several and still have a 280AI that with a 160 partition is pretty much a 7mm Rem.Mag in a more effiecient case. Can't go wrong with a 280 but bullet placement trumps caliber most of all the time.

I don't think anyone will argue that a .280 is more than adaqute for game

I think in this caliber, ammo selection is rather limited for a non-hand loader.

That would be the reason I would hesitate to own one.

You can buy either a .270 or 7mm mag and get equal or greater performance and greater ammo selection and availability

I don't know about the ammo deal. I can go on-line or make one phone call and I find what I want. If I want to take just under a 3 hr drive I can pick it up and save some time. Who buys only one box of ammo these days?

My 280 is my favorite all time rifle. I had it built 7 or 8 years ago and haven't hunted with anything else since. 140 gr. Accubonds are deadly accurate out of it and the deer and hogs hate it.

I didn't go the AI route as I already had a 7 mag so if I ever feel the need for a little more thump I'll go with it.

i buy one box of ammo at a time...whats wrong with that?

head down to academy, get my box of hornady 130 grain customs, then head back home. 4 years later when I am out of ammo I go back and buy another box.

You can order ammo online (for now) but not everyone wants to be dependant on the UPS man for his ammo supply.

I guess I shoot way more than you then. I shoot my rifle before season (3 shot group minimum) and then will usually shoot 5-8 boxes on deer per season. I never have less than 3 boxes on hand due to the fact that Wally World can be the only game in town and they will be out of .270 almost 9 out 10 times I go in. When I do buy I will buy them out. I use Ammo To Go for my .280 and made trips to them to buy when I was living closer to them. Now I just get them to ship. I want to see you go on a mule deer hunt with just a partial a box of ammo. Head down to Academy today and report back on their supply.

Other Alternate choices to consider

7WSM : comes in 24" barrels in 7 1/2 lb all up guns using Short Action recievers and gives 7RMg performances. Look at Kimber and Winchester M70's.
or
7STW aka Shooting Times Westerner: for max performances available in 284 diameters. I hear barrel life sucks after the 1st K rounds down the tube.
JMHO & YMMV
Cheers
Ron

I have a 7mmWSM

Spits a 150 grain bullet at 3250fps according to Winchester

That gun bites on both ends though, be warned

Good lord man, 5-8 boxes on deer?

Your either supply a guerilla army with meat or are the worst shot in existence , lol


I typically take two rifles with me on a trip.

8-15 rounds per rifle usually.

Never had an issue with running out of rounds.

I shoot my .270 two or three times a year on average

The .22-250 a bit more but I don't do a whole lot of shooting unless it's at an animal

Mine started life as a 270 but it always wanted to be 280 when it grew up.

I kill a lot of 270s to make something worthwhile. 338-06, 9.3x62, 8x64, 8.5x63 Reb, 400 Whelan, 35 Whelan, 375 Whelan, 280, 30-06.

Beyond that it is my preferred rifle to rebarrel, I figure I am doing the world a favor.

I have gone thru over 3 boxes in 10 days when killing does and I did not miss one shot.
Sounds like you have never flown on a trip and had to resight your rifle due to handling by airport baggage handlers.

I have a 280 and a 7x57 obviously the same as the 708. I use the 7x57 when I'm shooting under 200yds, which is 90% of the time. For Texas deer 300yds or less, espicially with factory loads, I'm not sure that you would ever notice the difference

I have a Ruger #1-B in .280 Remington and I love shooting that rifle. Extremely Accurate, and have shot less than 1/2" groups @ 100 with Factory loads.

Compared to 7mm Rem, it seems like it matches performance and doesn't seem to have the same amount of recoil.