So, You Want To Buy An AR-15 **UPDATED**

http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?81462-So-you-want-to-buy-an-AR-15-huh

Great article including what you need to look for in a poor, good or better quality weapon.

Really good info there!

Wish I would have had access to it last year when I spent weeks diging around on the net for just about everything that is contained in that one link. It made me feel good about the choices I made too.

Only thing I question is where he was talking about the M855 ammo causing pre-mature throat erosion in a 1/7 twist barrel. Thats the first I have heard of that.

If you would have just listened to me your AR would shoot 2000 yards and chace targets around trees !



Definately good info Randy !!

I did some checkin on this and it turns out there is some truth to it......however it sounds like its the twist rate it self that causes it and not just the M855. The way I saw it explained is that with a tight twist like the 1/7 the bullet skids a little before the rifleings grab ahold of it and that skiding is what causes the erosion. I learn sumting new every day!

http://www.policeone.com/police-products...carbine-rifles/

good stuff

Not sure who that was but he gave some good info that a lot of people don't know or hell, just don't think will produce the results they are trying to achieve.

I just subscribed to his videos. He is doing some real nice reviews on products, Ranier, Spike's BCM, all parts of them, Magazines and muzzle devices. What works and what is a waste of money. Rifle, Handguns and shotguns, Holsters and concealability.

He is a very knowledgable, no B.S. guy. He use to be on several forums but his name escapes me at the moment. His blog seems to have taken off well.

Really good information. I subscribed to hos channel too. My only critique, and he may wrap this up in other videos I haven't seen, is he makes a lot pf good points about the effects of using different component combinations but at the end he did'nt really wrap it up with what he beleives is an ideal combination. Perhaps thats because there are many possible ideal combinations but I was left wondering.

For instance, i just ordered a Palmetto State mid-length upper, 1/7, CL, with an m-16 bolt carrier and I wonder what recoil spring and what weight buffer Would be ideal un that upper for shooting primarily M885 and XM193 ammunition.

Carbine spring and Spike's ST-T2 buffer

Follow these specs and should be fine.

http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z/st15-16-m4-le-carbine-p-387.html
http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z/st15-16-midlength-le-carbine-p-443.html

What RWH said. Never had a problem with that set up in a 556 and those are two of the rounds I use a lot of. Well use to, I havent shot a dang firearm in about 4 months

Thanks! That let me know exactly what I need to get.

Good videos!

http://vuurwapenblog.com/

Damn that guy aint all that nice to his toys !!

Fell asleep watching it, what a nerd

This guy’s good! Have you seen this: http://vuurwapenblog.com/2012/08/23/how-to-set-your-ar-15-on-fire/

very informative video's

awesome!

Good info! I have a Battle-Comp and really like it.

good info

Interesting thanks for sharing.

great info !!

great info for the newbie and everyone. I just signed up of his blog. Thanks for sharing

I have to agree Good Info. As I am looking into either Building an AR or Upper and Lower or whole. Not sure still reading lol.

Mini 14 all the way

He is one heck of an ak salesman.

I enjoyed it. Thanks for posting.

good video

great info!

Was in cabelas today and over an hour wait of people buying ARs. I listened to most of the guys just pick out a $1500+ piece and didn't know anything about them. Granted I don't know anything about them, but would have researched before dropping anything over $600, these guys just didn't care.

Good info. Thanks for posting.
I, myself, have never felt the need or want of an AR15 platform weapon until recent developments.
Now I am in the market for one but since the only experience is with the Colt M16A1/2 I have to confess I am one that is in need of education so I am trying to soak up all the info I can.
Thanks everybody for sharing your knowledge.

Quality video very informative.

Huge amount of info, great stuff to know if you are buying a blackgun.

I'm going hog hunting soon & was told I can't use .223 because it just isn't effective against a big hog. I'm planning on using a 30/30 instead. What's your experience hunting large hogs with .223 or 30/30?

Obviously the bigger and more force, the better. But I think most people that use a proper bullet will tell you .223 works just fine. Hornady TAP and VMax 75gr work very well for taking down a hog of any size.

But without marksmanship, it doesn't matter what bullet you use.

Nice! Much appreciated info.

+1

yeah bro I took down a 320lb boar with an AR-15
and have killed my fair share with that same gun

What bullets were you using?

Good stuff!

Very good information. I was just thinking about ordering an upgraded upper.

because merica

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Don't know who is telling you that .225/556 isn't affective. I've tajen dozens of them with .223. You cannot take a shoulder or chest shot. And a vitals shot needs to be dead on because you won't get much of a blood trail.

30/30 is going to have about the same limitations as the 223, especially from a lever action.

I have two rifles for hogs, I have an AR15 chambered in 300AAC and night vision, and for day hunts I have an AR15 .223 varmint. I load 115gr ballistic tips for the 300aac, and for the 223 I load either 68gr or 72gr which evevr I can get. I would load lighter bullets on the 223 but my barrel HATES anything below 68gr.

My biggest 223 kill was close to 200 lbs @ 85 yrds. Largest 300AAC Is about 125 lbs and 50 yrds.

I wouldnt use either 223/300aac or 30/30 at more than maybe 150 to 175 yrds. they will drop the hogs at that distance, but you pretty much need a good neck shot.

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I use the leverevolution in my marlin and have not lost anything yet!

I just picked up a sig m400 5.56 enhanced. got it for a grand.

Cool Video!

Kind of a necropost, but Andrew seems to not only be a knowledgeable person, but his feet are firmly planted in reality and not the silly place too many people think "tacticool" resides.

As an example, if you haven't seen his SPOOF video, then you should. For the anally-retentive, it is HUMOR. Hopefully that was already apparent....

Thanks for the video. Learned couple new things.

anyone tried the del-ton rifle kits

There are lots of good info here. Thanks.

Great info

i've been looking for 'next step up' rifle for youth (22 to 243 is too big of a jump)

although the article did not address my needs directly, it was a great primer for what I need to know.

thanks.

thank you

Kinda scared... haven't seen a cop that could shoot yet...

Your not hanging with the right crowd!

I will admit, I shot better at 100yds with a handgun than some did with their carbine! Sad.

I had LEO's avoid me on the range. I expected them to practice SOME since last qualification....
I am not a perfectionist. Never have, never will. Always look to improve.
Sad, but some, a few, had not taken their gun out of the holster since last qauls. This was also noted on their Firearms Proficiency Sheet when I signed off on it. I also was not afraid to send someone back for remedial training.
No Good old boy here, my signature was on the bottom line saying they were Good To Go.

Very good information!

Great Article

Tons of good info. Looking for my first AR. thanks for posting

Wish I would have seen this a few months back!!

Great information

I aknowledge the AR has served it's purpose, but its sad to think thats the best we've come up with since 1957.

Other stuff has been invented. The Scar/ACR, Sig 516, ect. Besides being piston driven I don't think they really offer anything to justify the cost to change to them. Then again I am just a regular civilian who just enjoys guns so I don't really know what the military thinks.

If there is a limitation or two to the platform, they aren't what people generally think.

1) lack of BCG over-travel. This is, imo, the biggest difference which contributes to the reliability of the AK platform. The fit time I handled an AK I was amazed at how far the BCG moves back vs the AR15. That over travel gives the platform for room for error if there's dirt/grime/buildup which slows the blot down going backward, and gives the magazine spring more time to lift the next round fully.

A short stroke on an AK may not be noticed at all (depending on how bad), while an AR15 short stroke is almost inevitably a failure to feed and or eject.

2) the lower mag well is a bit inflexible. If it could be made a little longer, perhaps a little wider, with a shorter front to allow for better feeding of a more tapered cartridge. There's nothing wrong with this in terms of 5.56/.223, but current options would be improved a little if the magwell was bigger.

The LWRC Six8 is a good example of the capabilities being expanded greatly by a small magwell change.

1. The problem I see with pistons is added weight and recoil. It's much harder to keep round after round on target with an AK than it is with an AR. I have never tried a piston AR so I can't comment on that.

2. I am not quite sure what you mean here. You mean like a more flared magwell?

If we forced to change from the 5.56 I think a 6.5 Grendel would be the best replacement. The 5.56 is working fine though.

1) bolt carrier over travel and the operating mechanism are different things. I've sold my AK so I cannot measure this, but I would guess the bolt travels at least 2-3" farther on an AK than on an AR.

I think what people attribute to piston operation (functioning in terrible environments) is actually more attributable to that -- plus most AKs are quite over gassed. The bolt travel and overgassed nature means they're highly tolerant of things getting in the way/slowing down the bolt.

Does that make sense?

2) Not a flared magwell, but a bigger magwell that accepts larger magazines. Magpul makes a 30 round Six8 magazine for the new(ish) LWRC rifles that use the new lower/magwell. It gives greater capacity/capability to the platform.

Good info

Hey friends is there anyone close to cedarhilltx can help me get hog this year.

Good info

I need to trade in some pistols for an ar-15

A company named Witt Machine actually has a "Muzzle Rise Eliminator" on their website they claim it keeps the barrel in place. Has anyone heard of this?

I want another AR!

Wow, very informative. Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks

Good Stuff!

Great info here. Thanks for sharing!

Man, that is an awesome article. Just learned way more than I ever wanted to know about feed ramps, mags and too much more. You might want to access youtube while you're reading if you are a novice like me...just saying.

Nice, thanks!

I'm new to the shooting game, and decided an AR-15 was a "must have". That being said, do I go with a cheap rifle? (they are out there for under $600) or spend nearly 3X that much and get one that is already pimped out, upgraded and ready to go in its stock form? After much research (well, speaking with people mainly and some youtube videos) I chose the latter and went with the deluxe version because I look at this as an investment to last a lifetime. I have to thank the guys at http://www.machineguntours.com for helping me out with all of this, very knowledgeable on firearms. Plus Daniel Defense manufactures for the military too, so it's proven and tested. If our boys are using it, then I feel it should be good for my domestic use as well.

So what did I get? I picked up a Daniel Defense AR-15 DDM4V7lw and it is AWESOME. The lw stands for light-weight, and it is. We just went shooting the 1st time with it this weekend during one of their machine gun events, and out of all the guns I shot there (Sig, M2HB, CZ, Ruger, etc), as fun as they were (especially full-auto), and as much as I liked shooting my handgun as well (we have a 380 Sig and 9mm Ruger), this rifle blew me away. It just shoots good. My wife loves it too.

So if you're still thinking, I would HIGHLY recommend a top of the line AR rifle. We now plan on picking up a few more rifles (over pistols/shotguns), because of how much we're liking this one. Just not sure if we stick w/the AR platform of go with a mini-14, a 308, bullpup or some other kind???

Good read

I love my Daniels Defense too. I got the pistol & the M4.

I'm kinda thinking that is exactly why they said a 223 isn't effective. A 6.8, Grendel or 458 Socom would be a better choice. You don't need to wait until you have a between the eye shot to kill them. Here is a video of the 6.8 killing hogs...topped with a Zeus thermal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jfAWKfYsUUY

This looks fun, lol.

Awesome. Thanks for sharing

Hi Guys I'm new here. My friend also told me about AR-15 but never tried it. Should I dare try it as soon as possible? I like the feedback I get from this thread.

I would say YES!

Do your research first. Watch youtube videos on how to disassemble and reassemble and how to fix malfunctions. Its always good to be educated on a particular weapon before you purchase or shoot it.

Truth

The link doesn't work anymore.

I've seen the Witt Machine clamp on version work great on a 300winny the transformation in muzzle deflection was amazing. Not sure how it do much on an ar15 though they are already pretty tame. Guess I've not seen a brake on a 15 or at least the crowd i'm with. I will vouch for the Witt I saw though on the 300.

Phase 5 Tactical makes a pretty good brake that keeps the barrel rise down... Can't tell a bit of difference in recoil though with mine.

http://phase5wsi.com/fatman-hex-brake-5.56-.223-1-2-x-28-tpi.html

I have checked few videos on youtube about AR-15. It looks promising to me. Now, my question which brand AR-15 rifle is better. Real experience comment will be appreciated.

Sig m400 is solid.

Great info as I am looking to get my first AR.

Hi have a Sig m400 predator model. It is a good rifle like u said. I glad I bought it.

His mentors...

www.militarymorons.com ..... industry hookups, get's his hands on some cutting edge kit and demo's products in development for manufacturers due to his "breadth"of familiarity and knowledge. Kit he demos is often operationally in the field by SOCOM personel..

www.lightfighter.com forums ..... lotta HSLD, the AR (M4) tweaks and performance mods that are considered de riguer on a quality AR were perfected by some of the guys on that site. I've met quite a few at SHOT and training seminars over the years, a lot of manufacturers, industry reps, former/current CAG, SF, spec ops/intel/field ops guys that really know the tools of their trade. Pros, Operators, PMC, amateurs, hobbyists.... lotta meat on the bone. Stay in your lane, you'll be gtg.

Lot's of good info on youtube. Though having served in the army, I much prefer the opinion of a 30yr US Army Gfox, ODA, bat boy, or SFOD veteran. There's a difference.

Read it all here - AR 15 Rifle AR 15 Rifle

long running thread that makes no sense and to begin with common sense should answer it all quick...

Love my Mossberg MMR ar15, never any issues with it.

Before your question can be answered, what do you plan on doing with it? Paper Target Shooting once a month, Competition, Hunting, Job Related Tactical, Trunk Gun, Home Defense? Something else?

huh

and here you can find some good tips to have best rifles today, An article also helpful in that: The best AR-15 rifles you can get -
https://moriartiarmaments.com/blog/the-best-ar-15-rifles-you-can-get.html/article

Because this is the fact many people's who bought AR 15 is happy with their rifles. Beginners can also control AR 15 because it is very easy to use due to its flexibility, pretty expensive, Completely modular, Prolific etc.

I agree with you that the rifle is very comfortable and I really like it. She is the best. Recently, I bought optics for it https://www.atncorp.com/smart-hd-optics I think now I'll be good hunted. I want to find my own deer this year

I've been using an AR10 308 for hunting hogs, but recently read some stuff about using the AR15 instead. From what I've learned, as was mentioned, shot placement is pretty key and the type of round. There are some good hog hunting rounds out there with greater expansion then just a straight FMJ. Looking to try some out soon.

Neither does even reading this thread and posting that comment.

For that matter, neither does using the internet or perusing the forum as much as a lot of us do. Myself included. But it's a good time.

Don't be a hater. Tell us what you like instead.

I bought my first AR over 20 years ago as a photo prop. Never did have much use for a 5.56/.223 and still don't other than a coyote now and then. (I wish you Texas boys would come to NC and take your coyotes back!)
But once they starting adding additional cartridges I started getting serious about them. I now have eight that I use a good bit. The .25/.223, 6.5 G, 6.8 SPC, 7.62x40 and 300 HAM'R have added new life to the AR-15. They have also converted the AR-15 to a true hunting rifle.

So without reading article..options on keeping it from skidding..and what effects does that on accuracy.. newbie on at..o had an ar 10 but did like the weight..so thinking of getting a lighter 15

Couldn’t find it. It just went to the home page of the forum.

Yep, This sticky is useless now that you can't find the article. I read it once years ago, but wanted to re-read it and can't find it now.