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Side arm for hogs?

Posted By: BIG_B

Side arm for hogs? - 02/09/12 05:57 PM

Looking to get a side arm for hogs. I have started to guide hogs and usually take my shotgun but when brush gets tight and on hand and knees looking for pig want something more close quarter.

was thinking a 45acp or 10mm in a auto (more bullets and ability to put on lights)

or a revolver in 357 or 44mag. (more knock down)

any suggestions?

Posted By: JWP58

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/09/12 06:00 PM

Well i'm not real sure why you would want to arm the hogs, but i'd probably give them a pellet gun or something.


On a serious note, anything from 9mm up would work. Worry more about bullet selection than caliber.

Posted By: blackcoal

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/09/12 06:07 PM

Sounds like time to "call out the dogs". Might think about tractor with brush hog, back it in to cut the brush or run over the hog. Might use it for a decoy, huge old boar wanting to breed with soft purring "hog". Hands & knees??

Posted By: TexasVine

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/09/12 06:12 PM

10 mm or 44 mag. I like the high capacity of the Glock 20 for extremely tight quarter situations. The 44 mag with a little breathing room would work just fine.

Posted By: texasdude28

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 02:31 PM

I have a ruger in 357 I use for hogs, never had a problem being undergunned.

Posted By: Navasot

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 02:39 PM



Posted By: Don Dial

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 03:22 PM

I don't think much of pistols...My buddy shot hogs in our trap
with his 9MM, and last week we had 4 3 young choates and 110 gilt
which he brought his 8 shot 22 Mag...at 2 ft..I still had to shoot two twice...There are lots of pisterleros who love their
guns, but they are made to shoot people with...not everyone is
Elmer Keith...DD

Posted By: JThoele

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 03:29 PM

As mentioned a glock in 10mm would be the best "get off me" gun in a close call, but a hard cast bullet of .429 or .452 diameter or such would be the best one shot game over type handgun.

Posted By: ChadTRG42

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: BIG_B
Looking to get a side arm for hogs. I have started to guide hogs and usually take my shotgun but when brush gets tight and on hand and knees looking for pig want something more close quarter.

was thinking a 45acp or 10mm in a auto (more bullets and ability to put on lights)

or a revolver in 357 or 44mag. (more knock down)

any suggestions?

10mm with a 200 grain xtp would be (and is) my choice for hogs. You want something with deep denetration and heavy weight. A 10mm, or 44 mag with 240's, or a 41 mag with a 210 would be great medicine.

If you have ever had a hog charging at you, the last caliber I would pick is a 9mm. Give me big bullets with good penetration.

Posted By: JCB

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 05:24 PM

My primary side arm at the lease is a Glock 33 357 Sig with Speer Gold Dots. When I shot the Boar in my sig pic with my 223 I drug him off a little ways and then 30 minutes later he got up and came crashing through the brush and right into my stand. It all happend so quick I drew my 357 Sig without even thinking and put 2 rounds right in his head droping him on the spot. I am sold on the 357 Sig as a hog stoper.

Posted By: Navasot

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 05:41 PM

I cant belive anyones said a reg. 40s&w plenty of pop for close quarters...sure a .45 would be even better but just sayin...

Posted By: KC

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 09:50 PM

No hog that I've ever shot in the head or chest with a 9mm failed to die quickly, and no hog that I missed or hit marginally with a .44 fell dead from fright. If a hog ever did charge you, which I've still never seen one do, even after trying very hard to get them to, the rifle in your hand is still a better tool than the pistol on your belt.

Posted By: Beagledad

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/11/12 09:58 PM

44 mag. Ruger Super Balckhawk 7 1/2" bbl. if they are still comming after a 6 round dose there is enough steel to throw at them n run like heck! bolt

Posted By: Nathan Nelson

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 02:34 AM

44 Special, 10mm or, 460 Rowland....

Posted By: jeffbird

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 03:29 AM

The ability to make reliably placed shots, and rapid, reliably placed followup shots, and to keep coming back onto the point of intended aim if needed, is more important than the power.

Which pistol will allow you to make the most accurate shots with the quickest followup?

Posted By: texaspatriot.308

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 03:31 AM

I hunt and kill hogs every day. I use revolvers. autos are for self defense, combat. the puniest I use will be a .357 mag with 180 grain Buffalo Bore, I prefer .44mag and mostly .45 colt with heavy loads with cast bullets. a 10 mm may be good for all I know, but revolvers are just made for hunting. I guess if all you got is a .45 acp or 10 mm, use it. all my hog hunting friends that hunt all the time use revolvers, they must know something.

Posted By: jeffbird

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 03:57 AM

TP,
What loads are you using with your 45 Colt and 44? And just curious, why are you using cast bullets?

Posted By: joshbenavides

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: BIG_B
Looking to get a side arm for hogs. I have started to guide hogs and usually take my shotgun but when brush gets tight and on hand and knees looking for pig want something more close quarter.

was thinking a 45acp or 10mm in a auto (more bullets and ability to put on lights)

or a revolver in 357 or 44mag. (more knock down)

any suggestions?

where are you guiding the hogs to?

Posted By: kmon11

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 04:07 AM

Originally Posted By: jeffbird
TP,
What loads are you using with your 45 Colt and 44? And just curious, why are you using cast bullets?


Not sure what TP is using but a hard cast Keith style bullet is hard to beat for a pistol hunting bullet. Usually accurate, deep penetration and that large flat point does some damage along the wound canal

Posted By: bluetopper

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 04:15 AM

A 44 Magnum loaded with 240gr cast lead semi wadcutters with a full charge of your favorite magnum handgun powder.....it's a no brainer.

Posted By: JThoele

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 06:05 AM

I have shot hogs with a variety of handguns and have dropped plenty where they stood, but I have had fairly poor success with anything less than a hungting cartridge with a hunting type bullet. Let's see...

Walther P22 with .22 LR hollow point (I was fishing)= FAIL

FIE Titan .25 ACP FMJ (For the LOLZ)= laughable FAIL...hog picked up his leg let out a nonchallant oink then went back to trotting along...gun jammed preventing a follow up shot go figure with FIE pocket pistol quality...

S&W 39-2 9mm 115gr FMJ = FAIL while in a tight spot resulting in a tree climb. Pig did die and bullets were recovered. One shot center of skull above the eyes failed to penetrate the skull and instead squeezed down and bent in an odd shape. Body shots were less than impressive also, The hit to vitals caused minimal lung/vessel damage.

S&W 10 .38 Special 125 grain SWC = FAIL Finished off 200 yards away with a .270 and found the bullet had failed to penetrate the shoulder from 15-20 yards.

Uberti 1873 .45 Colt 225 grain Hornady XTP = FAIL Very capable caliber, but poor bullet choice. Projectile fragmented upon expansion and failed to provide lethal penetration and damage. Wound was examined after a .30-30 finished it off after a long tracking job and shot while fleeing.

However, with all of these same guns (Except the Walther .22 and FIE .25) and a few other larger bore revolvers I have taken several other hogs cleanly and quickly with different loads at various times. Part of the fun with hogs is using a wide array of weapns to take them.

Posted By: dlrz71

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/12/12 10:24 PM

For a semi-auto you can't go wrong with the .357sig. That round is just amazing from all the information I have found on the net. No personal experience but it is on my list smile

Posted By: wchamilton

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 05:04 AM

Originally Posted By: JThoele
I have shot hogs with a variety of handguns and have dropped plenty where they stood, but I have had fairly poor success with anything less than a hungting cartridge with a hunting type bullet. Let's see...



Uberti 1873 .45 Colt 225 grain Hornady XTP = FAIL Very capable caliber, but poor bullet choice. Projectile fragmented upon expansion and failed to provide lethal penetration and damage. Wound was examined after a .30-30 finished it off after a long tracking job and shot while fleeing.



My friend if you say it I am sure it must have happened,, but this is truly a bizzare statement.
I have shot buckets full of XTP's into everything from dirt banks and water bottlles to deer to elk and and even a bear out of really hot loaded 44mags and 45 LC and never have I seen something like this from that bullet. It is true that I shoot 240's in the 44 and 250's in the 45LC but still seems like a fluke.

Posted By: JThoele

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 05:23 AM

I am pretty sure that is the name of the projectile...it is a hornady jacketed hollowpoint and at 225gr seems somewhat light for caliber IMO for hog hunting. I didn't reload these rounds just hunted with them. I have had better success on pigs with 250+ grain hard cast gas check projectiles. It wasn't a huge hog, probably a 150ish sow center of shoulder shot. Of course this one experience with this particuliar load was just that, one experience and not a long observed trend. However, due to the first time I used this particuliar reload on a hog resulting in a less than ideal outcome, I have only used heavy cast lead since and have not found a reason to try anything else.

Posted By: Dustnsand

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 05:30 AM

There's a 454 casull for sale in the classifieds right now. It should do ok on hogs

Posted By: wchamilton

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 05:44 AM

Something didn't sound right so I just double checked, Hornady does not make a 225 grain xtp in 45 cal.
The closest is a 230, but I am betting that it could have been a different bullet.
It has just been my experiance that the hotter i run xtp's the better they perform, up to a limit of course , but I haven't found it in any of my loads yet and I use to like to smoke em out there.
Regardless, your experiance is noteworthy in that a person can makea bullet fail even at 45LC standard velocities.
The flatnose hard cast stopped that problem though it sounds like.
good choice.

Posted By: JThoele

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 02:09 PM

Yea I must either have bullet weight or manufacturer mistaken, nonetheless I have gotten complete body, head to rump, pass thru with hard casts on about an 80 pound pig shot within 25yards to make it very dead and make me very pleased.

Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: KC
No hog that I've ever shot in the head or chest with a 9mm failed to die quickly, and no hog that I missed or hit marginally with a .44 fell dead from fright. If a hog ever did charge you, which I've still never seen one do, even after trying very hard to get them to, the rifle in your hand is still a better tool than the pistol on your belt.


this right here

Posted By: Mambajeep

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 03:58 PM

Autos- 40, 357 sig, 10mm

Six shooter- 357, 44 mags

Posted By: SpoonPlatoon

Re: Side arm for hogs? - 02/13/12 07:07 PM

Magnum research BFR. If you can't bring em down with that them you need the Army to help you.

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