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How Many Texans Hunt Oklahoma? #9215075 04/27/25 05:22 PM
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This coupled with the price hike last year of approx $500 per weapon for deer is making Oklahoma less and less desirable. If their goal is to keep nonresidents out, I'm sure its starting to work.

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I have been hunting in Oklahoma for about 50 years, it was only for prairie dogs.However the cost of license has went from $8 for nonresidentt non game to $78 for 5day


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I live here and it's not just Oklahoma screwing non-resident hunters it's across the states. I also hunt Wyoming and it's getting almost ridiculous as to prices for all hunting license.

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It will have a dramatic effect on my hunting. We hunt waterfowl and do an awful lot of scouting, what is the point if it’s just luck of the draw.

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Myself being a traveling bird hunter who would often visit multiple WMAs and refuges in one trip across OK, this sucks. My latest Vizsla reaching two years old now I was hoping to do another ten day to two week OK hunting road trip next season, so that really sucks. I also have often utilized some OK WMAs and Corps hunting lands only for kayak/canoe access to various lakes, rivers, and creeks for fishing, but I always have my dog with me. I'm not sure, but the way this bill reads "no person may enter upon any state or federal wildlife refuge or Wildlife Management Area with a dog, a gun, or a bow", I may not even be able to do that anymore without written permission and $100 fee just to have a companion dog in the boat with me. I see no exception for non hunting related activities. The $100 and lottery thing is vague. Is it per day, trip, season, year? Are Corps public hunting land and water considered refuges? How is State Law trumping Federal law? Would it not contradict some provisions in recent years Federal Bills and EOs that expanded public access and hunting on Federal lands? It will be interesting to see what comes out of this once the Wildlife Commission figures out the details of how they are going to implement it.

BILL NO. 448 By: Hamilton of the Senate
and
Grego of the House
An Act relating to wildlife; amending 29 O.S. 2021,
Section 7-304, as amended by Section 1, Chapter 19,
O.S.L. 2022 (29 O.S. Supp. 2024, Section 7-304),
which relates to wildlife refuges and Wildlife
Management Areas; requiring nonresident hunters to
receive permission from the Oklahoma Wildlife
Conservation Commission to use certain areas;
authorizing the Commission to create certain system
for permitting; requiring permit fee; providing for
promulgation of rules; updating statutory language;
and providing an effective date.
SUBJECT: Wildlife
BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA:
SECTION 1. AMENDATORY 29 O.S. 2021, Section 7-304, as
amended by Section 1, Chapter 19, O.S.L. 2022 (29 O.S. Supp. 2024,
Section 7-304), is amended to read as follows:
Section 7-304.
A. Except as otherwise provided by law, no
person may enter upon any state or federal wildlife refuge or
Wildlife Management Area with a dog, a gun, or a bow.
B. Exceptions to the above provisions are when the Oklahoma
Wildlife Conservation Commission and/or the Oklahoma Tourism and
Recreation Commission may by resolution permit:
1. The holding of field trials by duly authorized sportsmen’s
clubs; or
2. Such hunting, killing, or trapping of wildlife from such
refuge or Wildlife Management Area; provided, however, that Lake
Murray State Park shall not be utilized for the killing or trapping
of natural wildlife and shall remain a wildlife preserve.
C. 1. Upon authorization for the hunting, killing, or trapping
of wildlife from any such refuge or Wildlife Management Area by the
Oklahoma Wildlife Conservation Commission pursuant to subsection B
of this section, the Oklahoma Wildlife Conservation Commission shall
require nonresidents to schedule with the Department of Wildlife
Conservation in order to receive written authorization to use such
refuge or Wildlife Management Area.
2. The Oklahoma Wildlife Conservation Commission shall create a
lottery system as needed for the distribution of permits authorizing
nonresidents to hunt, kill, or trap wildlife from such refuge or
Wildlife Management Area and shall charge a permit fee not to exceed
One Hundred Dollars ($100.00).
3. The Oklahoma Wildlife Conservation Commission shall
promulgate any rules necessary to implement the provisions of this
section.
D. Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this
section shall be punished by a fine of not less than One Hundred
Dollars ($100.00) nor more than One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or
by imprisonment in the county jail for not less than ten (10) days
nor more than thirty (30) days, or by both such fine and
imprisonment for the first violation. A subsequent violation shall
result in the suspension of privileges to hunt, kill, or trap within
such refuge or Wildlife Management Area.
SECTION 2. This act shall become effective November 1, 2025.

Re: How Many Texans Hunt Oklahoma? [Re: Blank] #9215203 04/27/25 11:44 PM
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Such BS,


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Not as many as Okies hunt Tejas, lol....

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Tejas needs to embargo or heavily tariff OK, lol

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Not as many as Okies hunt Tejas, lol....


A lot of them put in for our public hunts, why wouldn’t they it’s only $3 to apply


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Not as many as Okies hunt Tejas, lol....


A lot of them put in for our public hunts, why wouldn’t they it’s only $3 to apply


And if I draw one of the OK public draw hunts, I guess they are now going to make me pay another $100 for my "permission" to hunt.

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
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Not as many as Okies hunt Tejas, lol....


A lot of them put in for our public hunts, why wouldn’t they it’s only $3 to apply


And if I draw one of the OK public draw hunts, I guess they are now going to make me pay another $100 for my "permission" to hunt.


On top of the $250 base hunting licenses, draw fees, and the $500 for elk or Deer tag plus the WMA fee and now permission permit.





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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Not as many as Okies hunt Tejas, lol....


A lot of them put in for our public hunts, why wouldn’t they it’s only $3 to apply


And if I draw one of the OK public draw hunts, I guess they are now going to make me pay another $100 for my "permission" to hunt.


On top of the $250 base hunting licenses, draw fees, and the $500 for elk or Deer tag plus the WMA fee and now permission permit.






So to shoot a whitetail on public land in Oklahoma, what’s it gonna run in total?


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Depends if you go the way of the draw. For the draw you have to have a qualifying licenses to enter.

Qualifying license-
Draw fee
Tag cost
May have or may not have facility/WMA fee here(similar to TX)
Now the permission fee


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Depends if you go the way of the draw. For the draw you have to have a qualifying licenses to enter.

Qualifying license-
Draw fee
Tag cost
May have or may not have facility/WMA fee here(similar to TX)
Now the permission fee


So ballpark it for a walk in WMA hunt


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Depends if you go the way of the draw. For the draw you have to have a qualifying licenses to enter.

Qualifying license-
Draw fee
Tag cost
May have or may not have facility/WMA fee here(similar to TX)
Now the permission fee


So ballpark it for a walk in WMA hunt


No draw — 600


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I bet this hurts the OLAP program


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
I bet this hurts the OLAP program


OLAP is leased private land. Not a refuge or WMA. It would not be effected by this Bill, but OLAP already has it's own problems for non residents. Most of those units are only in the panhandle region so most non residents live far from them. The better ones have restricted access so you don't know if you get to hunt those units until two days before because of the first come first serve registration for access. And yet another expense requiring a $200 non resident Land Access Permit to hunt them.

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
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I bet this hurts the OLAP program


OLAP is leased private land. Not a refuge or WMA. It would not be effected by this Bill, but OLAP already has it's own problems for non residents. Most of those units are only in the panhandle region so most non residents live far from them. The better ones have restricted access so you don't know if you get to hunt those units until two days before because of the first come first serve registration for access. And yet another expense requiring a $200 non resident Land Access Permit to hunt them.


Lots of out of state land owner have stuff enrolled in OLAP, as of today I have sent a formal letter and will not be renewing the OLAP program for the 25-26 season


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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Not as many as Okies hunt Tejas, lol....


no, they just hunt at night and no license is required


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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I bet this hurts the OLAP program


OLAP is leased private land. Not a refuge or WMA. It would not be effected by this Bill, but OLAP already has it's own problems for non residents. Most of those units are only in the panhandle region so most non residents live far from them. The better ones have restricted access so you don't know if you get to hunt those units until two days before because of the first come first serve registration for access. And yet another expense requiring a $200 non resident Land Access Permit to hunt them.


Lots of out of state land owner have stuff enrolled in OLAP, as of today I have sent a formal letter and will not be renewing the OLAP program for the 25-26 season



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I would boycott, but I really can't. I think next year I will finally be in the 20 point draw pool for Elk and Antelope. Spread out with many years I could not apply or forgot to apply, that took a lifetime to get there, so I got to stick with it just in case even though I still probably will never draw one.

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Wish Texas would take the matching tariff approach to all the out of state hunting and fees...looks like it's getting closer and closer to folks just being able to hunt the state they live in.


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I had permission on a great property up there 45min West of OKC close to the Canadian but quit because of the excessive fees.

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
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I bet this hurts the OLAP program


OLAP is leased private land. Not a refuge or WMA. It would not be effected by this Bill, but OLAP already has it's own problems for non residents. Most of those units are only in the panhandle region so most non residents live far from them. The better ones have restricted access so you don't know if you get to hunt those units until two days before because of the first come first serve registration for access. And yet another expense requiring a $200 non resident Land Access Permit to hunt them.


Lots of out of state land owner have stuff enrolled in OLAP, as of today I have sent a formal letter and will not be renewing the OLAP program for the 25-26 season



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I would boycott, but I really can't. I think next year I will finally be in the 20 point draw pool for Elk and Antelope. Spread out with many years I could not apply or forgot to apply, that took a lifetime to get there, so I got to stick with it just in case even though I still probably will never draw one.


I have same issue on points. I did draw LO Pronghorn, even though they got stupid on NR youth it’s not as bad as NR adult


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Drive right past OK to Kansas.

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