I believe that out of state hunters pay the same price as Texans for Texas draw hunts and they have the same draw odds as Texans. This is bs because other states like Colorado charge out of state hunters way more. I think Texas should charge more for out of state hunters and lower their odds. If you feel the same way then please mention this on these surveys. Maybe enough of these comments will help

I agree non-residents should be treated the same way we're treated when we apply out West. They should be required to buy a license to apply and limited to 10% or less of the available tags. And for hunts with a low number of tags (sheep, oryx, etc.) they should be limited to residents. I've made these comments every year and I seriously doubt TPWD cares. At all.

What we need-
Active Hunting license to apply
NR % cap
No more then three choices per species regardless of weapon

Follow the money..I bet they're thinking about out of state license fees..just a thought.

Just want to point out that TX also charges non-res hunters a lot more than res hunters. Look at the difference in license cost and since you have to have a valid license to apply for the draw hunt a non-res has a lot more in costs. Every state, including TX, soaks the non-res. It is what it is.

Non res get the exact same of tags as residents. Do residents in other states have to buy specific type of license to hunt a certain animal like some do for non res?

Can't answer for all but I grew up in CO and a resident has to buy a deer tag. A resident has to buy an elk tag. A resident has to buy a small game tag. Any license an non-resident has to buy is also required of a resident. A resident has to pay for a preference point just like a non-resident does. But I admit resident tags are cheaper than non-resident tags but that applies to every state including TX. WY pretty much follows CO in that residents also have to have licenses and I am not aware of any western state that does not require a resident to have a license to hunt but there are some eastern and southern states that do not require a land owner to have a license if they are hunting their own land.

The cold hard fact is that every state charges non-residents between 10 and 15 times more than they do residents. That is the price to hunt and it isn't going to change.

Texas has the cheapest application process in the entire country for non res.

As a NR to enter CO draw you have to buy habitat stamp, NR hunting license and THEN deer tag if you draw and that’s assuming list A. You will have roughly $500 + tied up in “A” draw tag. Even if you go list B it’s still almost $500 for A tag and license

NR will have <$100 per tag in Texas due to number of tags on license

If Texas charged NR same as CO that out of state license would be over $2400(not count MD tags on it) and over 3000 including mule deer.

No, TEXAS hunters get screwed because we sell close to Million Hunting licenses and max out Pitt And Rob ACT match, while other states have make NR application buy Hunting license to APPLY to get numbers up so they can max out the formula.

Texas alone has roughly as many hunters as Idaho, Montana, CO and WY combined

Everyone please put this on these surveys. Non-residents are taking our draw hunt spots for less than $100 bucks each and their states are making us pay thousands just to draw. Texas needs to provide advantages and incentives to our Texas resident hunters!!! Plus Texas is 98% private land so Texans need better opportunities to hunt the 2% of the public land that we have

Oklahoma would be a closer example to Texas. It is a draw very similar to what we have in Texas. But OK requires non residents to have a current hunting license to apply, so over $200 for the annual license. Then if drawn you are charged for the appropriate big game license. So over $500 more for the big game tag. Which I believe is a separate big game tag that is only good for the controlled hunt and not the same as the general big game tag for the entire state.

Done. I'll be shocked if anything changes.

Every state, including TX, sticks it to non res. Why is that so hard for some to grasp?

Thousands just to draw, lol. Let's not get carried away.
No license required to apply in Wyoming and some are still under $1000. In fact you can hunt elk in Wyoming for under $1,000.
And most Western state do have licenses set aside for NRs , a set quota they can draw.


I do agree that you all need a cap on NR licenses available in the draw or raise the fee for NRs to apply.

All your bold is irrelevant and wrong what does 7 list B deer tags in CO cost a NR? Are you to stubborn to read up on how states charge NR to gain Pitt-rob tax allocation as it is a formula with license sales as a big input?

What’s so hard to grasp about we want similar barriers of entry for NR in our application process?

Texas is really sticking it to NR at $3 an app….again They DO NOT HAVE to have current license to apply, again bold is wrong.

I apply in 10 plus states….. none are less than $100 too apply for a hunt choice, minus WY, but you front tags fees.

It’s tpwd, what would you really expect? Agreed that it is a crock with the limited number of public type opportunities to begin with for residents. I quit doing the tpwd draws years ago, felt like it was just a money grab, and the one hunt that I was drawn on just wasn’t the type of hunting experience that I’m into. Although, it may be a perfect fit for some. This year confirmed my decision when somebody from Utah I think drew the bighorn or slam hunt or something of the sort.

Took the survey the other day. For several years, and once again, suggested that non-residents must purchase a license prior to applying

For all of you saying TX sticks it to non residents on license cost like other states For $315 a nonresident gets 5 WT tags, 1 MD tag and 4 turkey tags.
ONE mule deer tag in CO and most other states cost more than that, ONE elk tag cost 2-3x that $315.

TX NON RESIDENT HUNTING LICENSE IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE IN COST COMPARED TO MOST WESTERN STATES NON RESIDENT LICENSE COST!!

I may get all those tags on my license but I don't have to pay for a lease and a guided hunt back home in CO to go hunting, so yeah...there's about 15k this non resident is paying into the Texas economy this hunting season excluding travel to and from...

Take it or leave it I guess...I spend a lot less to hunt at home even if I can get a pile of tags for $500 bucks.

tpwd is ran by a bunch of morons that don't care what the people think. That is not gonna change. They don't have to answer to the public.

I think that what ever the state that the hunter comes from charges for out of state hunters is what Texas should charge them to hunt Texas.
That would make it equal .

100% BS, You DONT have to in Texas either, whitetail or mule deer. You just choose to hunt private in TX instead of OTC Public

I choose to hunt one of the largest ranches in CO, but I still have to buy a NR hunting license and app costs to enter in to draw and or points in CO. You spend $3 in Texas todo the same

I’m sure someone will argue as they always do, but what flavor kool-aid makes one think texas offers as quality of public hunting opportunities as western states?

And that wasn’t intended to hijack, you will never make everyone happy, but it appears the majority are unsatisfied with the tpwd draw hunt system. But overall lack of opportunity in the state has some continuing to do it anyway.

You mean like 20 years worth of NR PP to draw top unit in CO or people are to lazy to hunt public in Texas?

It goes both ways, regardless there is no price comparison between ANY western state and TX. Texas has the cheapest and lowest barriers of entry to apply for public hunts. It’s $3 vs $100 plus in CO, NM, UT, AZ, NV, MT, Washington, OR, OKla etc

If you want any type of reasonably enjoyable experience you certainly have to pay to hunt private in Texas. Say what you want about a low barrier to entry, but I would certainly call it a barrier here. The whole argument you are trying to make is to lock up the limited public options available in this state so the allocation is similar to other western states. The whole point of my comment was to state that the economic paradigm is completely different in Texas than the other states you mentioned applying in. The public hunts are just a token thing here. It basically doesn't matter. Would you be mad if they made all Texas public opportunities go to youth only? I wouldn't because there is not enough opportunity for me to get up in arms about...the hunts they put on are like day care hunts anyways. I will continue to put in for them, but don't sit here and act like there is some plethora of opportunities I am not taking advantage of in the state I was born and raised. My first hunt and harvest of a deer was a public youth hunt on the Balcones NWR.