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Re: Opinions: Best low light scope under $1k [Re: J.G.] #9146130 11/30/24 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by J.G.
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FFP suks for hunting


I have zero use for a FFP scope for any purpose !!!


I totally agree. My days of ranging with mil-dots was over twenty six years ago. I have a laser range finder now for anything I need to range. I don't need a busy reticle in my scope, though my new GPO scope has an MOA reticle.

I was at the range last spring. The guy next to me had a new Arkin 5-25 FFP scope. I was impressed with the optics and the scope. We shot into dusk. He started packing up early. I said are you done? He said I can't use my scope on the lower powers. I turned his scope down to 5X the entire MOA type reticle was so small. He turned on the illumination. Yes you had an aiming point to use. However, the tiny reticle obstructed the target.

Sorry folks you just can't hunt with a FFP scope. I'm betting scope manufactures will start offering more scopes with SFP, or at least I hope they will.


Ranging with the reticle is a parlor trick, ever since good lasers have been available. That's the last thing the reticle is there for.

The reticle covers the target the same percentage at any magnification. That's the whole point.

I've put hundreds of pounds of wild meat in the freezer with FFP scopes. A whole lot of dead animals would strongly disagree with you.

Keep them with the magnification turned down as low as it will go. Bring the scope to your eye, get the animal in the scope, turn up magnification to wherever you need it, make a hold, squeeze the trigger. Get the knives out.


Ridiculous. This is advice from someone who's experience is mostly from punching paper and not hunting. If all you do is shoot doe under a feeder, you can pull this off. A rutting buck on the move, no way. I can't think of a hunting scenario that I've shot game where I would be able to dial magnification after acquiring the target. Choose the right equipment for the job and you won't have to dial magnification.


An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
Re: Opinions: Best low light scope under $1k [Re: wtjim] #9146197 11/30/24 01:34 PM
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I wouldn’t say that’s a rule. Some FFP reticles are useable at lower powers, some are useless. Illuminated center dots makes it a non existent problem. Unfortunately some companies illuminate the entire thing. What do I know, I hunt with a cabelas/meopta 3-9x40 most of the time.

Re: Opinions: Best low light scope under $1k [Re: wtjim] #9146227 11/30/24 02:31 PM
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Back on topic...

Trijicon Accupoint 3-9x40 (TR20-1G - duplex with green dot) - can be found for about $650 new.

Leupold VX5-HD CDS-ZL2 2-10x42 Firedot - can be found for under $1,000 new.

It's REALLY hard to beat either of these, in my opinion. Heck, even the Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40 at $300 or less I put on my kid's rifle is a great scope for a budget option. I have all of these and they've served me well. I used to have the Trijicon Accupoint 2.5-10x56 and it's just way too big and bulky, so I switched to the TR20-1G Accupoint and I don't really notice any difference in low light scenarios.

Just my two cents.

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