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223 and mono bullets
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10/30/24 01:03 AM
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rickt300
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Since the current craze of using match bullets for deer you hardly hear anything about monos anymore. Were they that bad?
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Re: 223 and mono bullets
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10/30/24 01:40 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Since the current craze of using match bullets for deer you hardly hear anything about monos anymore. Were they that bad? Nobody used mono in 223 any way because the lower velocities. They worked good in 22-250 speeds (53gr @ 3800 muzzle ), but 223 just not enough powder to really turn the rpm’s the bullet needs. Faster twists in both rifle make bigger cup and core bullets really shine The whole match thing means nothing, it’s just a cup and core bullet. Example Barnes match means a thicker jacket, where as hornady match means thinner jacket… I wouldn’t say current craze, ballistic tip is a match bullet, Berger hunting are the original match, the company started in 1955
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: 223 and mono bullets
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10/30/24 02:22 PM
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Recoillug
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There are plenty of monos still being used, but as BOBO indicated, not so much in a 223. Monos typically require faster speeds at impact in order to mushroom. Although some mono makers are now designing them to loose petals upon impact, mushrooming is still needed for maximum effectiveness.
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Re: 223 and mono bullets
[Re: Recoillug]
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10/30/24 06:16 PM
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There are plenty of monos still being used, but as BOBO indicated, not so much in a 223. Monos typically require faster speeds at impact in order to mushroom. Although some mono makers are now designing them to loose petals upon impact, mushrooming is still needed for maximum effectiveness. Not true on mushrooming. Lehigh has some that will do the job down to 1500-1600 fps. Bang flop
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Re: 223 and mono bullets
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10/30/24 10:40 PM
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Recoillug
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m[/quote] Not true on mushrooming. Lehigh has some that will do the job down to 1500-1600 fps. Bang flop [/quote]
That is correct, Lehigh Defense does have some lines that are designed to be effective at lower velocities, even some in 223. I was speaking in general terms. New bullet technology is being developed continuously.
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Re: 223 and mono bullets
[Re: Recoillug]
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10/31/24 12:42 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Not true on mushrooming. Lehigh has some that will do the job down to 1500-1600 fps. Bang flop [/quote] That is correct, Lehigh Defense does have some lines that are designed to be effective at lower velocities, even some in 223. I was speaking in general terms. New bullet technology is being developed continuously.[/quote] I’d be more interested in the temporary cavity formation or hydrostatic shock than just mushroom. Vast difference in a 55 TTSX at 2700 and one spinning at 3600 ft/s at impact
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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