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Timed protein feeder options
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08/31/24 09:54 PM
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Long story short, the land owner is requiring free range or timed drop protein pellets next year during the "off season". In the past he allowed corn/soy mix or L&E Blast for us hunters that only had broadcast feeders but no more after this season (not enough protein in that form according to land owner).
I been looking at the ASF 1,000lb Electric Protein Stand & Fill and I see it has a good reputation and a few members of this forum also use it. I also see that ASF recently came out with the "Corn Pro" which is a dual purpose protein drop and corn broadcast feeder. Which sounds like a good idea but I am a bit leery about the protein trough feed part, as it looks like to get the trough feed to work, you slide up some baffles to cover the broadcast ports and the protein then richochets around and falls down into the trough below. What concerns me is (and I may be wrong here) but that sounds like you are running protein pellets through a broadcast spinner normally used for corn. I have seen what protein pellets can do to a broadcast spinner mechanism when they get moist and then turn into concrete!
A couple of other options I have looked at are pretty spendy, the open trough feeders from HB, Lamco and Ranch King
Since the lease is almost five hours away I feel the timed release feeder is going to be my best bet over the free range as I would like to control how much feed is being dispensed.
So with all that said do you think the ASF 1,000lb Electric Protein Stand & Fill will serve me best or is there something better out there? Thanks!
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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08/31/24 10:21 PM
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'Don't mean to divert away from your recommendation goal here, but I can't help but notice that your LO is upping the bar in the middle of, what I assume, is a signed contract? And I doubt he's lowering your lease cost due to increased expenses due to his new rule?
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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08/31/24 10:37 PM
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Whats the cost of the unit you are considering? Im asking for my personal research on something like this.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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08/31/24 10:43 PM
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'Don't mean to divert away from your recommendation goal here, but I can't help but notice that your LO is upping the bar in the middle of, what I assume, is a signed contract? And I doubt he's lowering your lease cost due to increased expenses due to his new rule? Hi CR you are correct I was given a "oh by the way next year" while I was down there filling up the feeder a few weeks ago. It is a yearly contract and no I doubt any lease costs will be lowered. I could complain ...but frankly I won't because at the moment this is the best lease I can afford and for the location (hill country) the price is pretty good. Besides, you ever tried arguin' with a hill country German about feeder costs and contracts? Actually, I am more afraid of his wife! LOL
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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09/01/24 06:11 PM
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I have a ASF #1000 and like it except, it will not empty all the protein contained inside. Protein tends to stick to all 4 tapered walls. I’m considering a #600.
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#9101173
09/01/24 06:47 PM
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I agree, I have the 600 lb that dispenses the feed in a trough. works ok for me. The feed don't actually stick to the side but on the funnel part. The sides aren't steep enough where the funnel begins. I am a firm believer in Purina Antler Max. I now use the roasted soybeans mix with corn. The deer love it. We own the land so we don't have to bother with land owners.
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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#9101323
09/02/24 01:44 AM
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This one has been running 3 years zero issues, I think it’s ASF
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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#9101454
09/02/24 02:46 PM
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jgconst
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FTWshooter, My lease is 4 hours away. It's been in a drought since 2018. We feed free choice protein, cottonseed, and spin cast corn. Yes, it's expensive but the deer are getting what they need to grow while we are waiting for the drought to break. There aren't always this many bucks trying to feed at once, but I want them to get all they want. How much would you feed per cycle?
Last edited by jgconst; 09/02/24 03:43 PM. Reason: addition
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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#9101489
09/02/24 04:09 PM
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I think with the bucks you have eating I would try to adjust timer to basically give them all they will clean up in a certain amount of time. I wouldn't want a whole lot left for the coons.
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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09/02/24 04:12 PM
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FTWshooter, My lease is 4 hours away. It's been in a drought since 2018. We feed free choice protein, cottonseed, and spin cast corn. Yes, it's expensive but the deer are getting what they need to grow while we are waiting for the drought to break. There aren't always this many bucks trying to feed at once, but I want them to get all they want. How much would you feed per cycle? 2-3lb per deer per night True maximization in your case would be 2 protein feeder 20 yards apart and 4-6 ports each feeder. Problem is the pecking order of bachelor group. Not all bucks get to feed for same amount of time. When lead buck leaves the rest follow. He may also keep others at a distance This is also why bulk cotton seed is so effective when feed in conjunction with pellet, individual tolerant is spreed out and give multiple options
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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#9101662
09/03/24 12:09 AM
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FTWshooter, My lease is 4 hours away. It's been in a drought since 2018. We feed free choice protein, cottonseed, and spin cast corn. Yes, it's expensive but the deer are getting what they need to grow while we are waiting for the drought to break. There aren't always this many bucks trying to feed at once, but I want them to get all they want. How much would you feed per cycle? 2-3lb per deer per night True maximization in your case would be 2 protein feeder 20 yards apart and 4-6 ports each feeder. Problem is the pecking order of bachelor group. Not all bucks get to feed for same amount of time. When lead buck leaves the rest follow. He may also keep others at a distance This is also why bulk cotton seed is so effective when feed in conjunction with pellet, individual tolerant is spreed out and give multiple options 2-3 pounds per deer each night? You spending time with Norml? He ain’t hunting a pen.
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#9101679
09/03/24 01:00 AM
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FTWshooter, My lease is 4 hours away. It's been in a drought since 2018. We feed free choice protein, cottonseed, and spin cast corn. Yes, it's expensive but the deer are getting what they need to grow while we are waiting for the drought to break. There aren't always this many bucks trying to feed at once, but I want them to get all they want. How much would you feed per cycle? 2-3lb per deer per night True maximization in your case would be 2 protein feeder 20 yards apart and 4-6 ports each feeder. Problem is the pecking order of bachelor group. Not all bucks get to feed for same amount of time. When lead buck leaves the rest follow. He may also keep others at a distance This is also why bulk cotton seed is so effective when feed in conjunction with pellet, individual tolerant is spreed out and give multiple options 2-3 pounds per deer each night? You spending time with Norml? He ain’t hunting a pen. What we ran on timed lamco in hill country during summer. 1lb per deer per spin. 2 spins a night. One at dark and other 1-2 hrs before day light. You are also always going to feed more deer then you think also
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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#9101697
09/03/24 01:49 AM
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Bobo, how do you know how many deer you are feeding. Just watch what feeds on cam?? And Im not sure what Huds comment meant unless its similar to mine....... Actually, as I think about it, Hud and I are smoking(or not) the same stuff.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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#9101733
09/03/24 03:53 AM
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Bobo, how do you know how many deer you are feeding. Just watch what feeds on cam?? And Im not sure what Huds comment meant unless its similar to mine....... Actually, as I think about it, Hud and I are smoking(or not) the same stuff. Yes, camera. No I said a night and he was probably thinking I was saying 2 lb per deer every feeding. We only fed at night during heat if summer . Timed is not optimal if you are trying to target fawns etc. top end of the social pecking system will be optimized the most. Hud was asking if I was smoking the funny stuff…. Yet he wears leather shorts
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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09/03/24 04:08 AM
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Bobo, how do you know how many deer you are feeding. Just watch what feeds on cam?? And Im not sure what Huds comment meant unless its similar to mine....... Actually, as I think about it, Hud and I are smoking(or not) the same stuff. Yes, camera. No I said a night and he was probably thinking I was saying 2 lb per deer every feeding. We only fed at night during heat if summer . Timed is not optimal if you are trying to target fawns etc. top end of the social pecking system will be optimized the most. Hud was asking if I was smoking the funny stuff…. Yet he wears leather shorts Yes, the shorts, and he talks openly about his sausage…..
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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#9101764
09/03/24 11:00 AM
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Being as the LO is a hill country square-head, maybe his demand that his hunters put out protein is his no-cost-to-me way of converting to a Wildlife Valuation on his property taxes and getting rid of his cattle? If so, the state guidelines (regs?) for the Wildlife Valuation are free-choice only. Although I've never heard of anyone being audited/inspected, each CAD is very different and goes about things they way they see fit.
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...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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09/03/24 12:29 PM
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Thanks for the replies Ehhh to be honest I haven’t really thought about how much feed to drop yet. I see two consistent groups in my pictures with about 12 deer total, ASF says their feeder will drop 12lbs of feed with a 10 second cycle so I am thinking two 10 second drops at a minimum would work for me?
thinking the 1000 lb model would get me through a month at that rate (minus what feed clings to the inside of the feeder)
I know it will empty pretty quickly but thinking of building a chickenwire cottonseed feeder too as another supplement.
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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09/03/24 12:53 PM
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Sounds like you will figure it out. Hopefully the neighboring ranches will feed protein as well.
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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09/03/24 02:09 PM
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Thanks for the replies Ehhh to be honest I haven’t really thought about how much feed to drop yet. I see two consistent groups in my pictures with about 12 deer total, ASF says their feeder will drop 12lbs of feed with a 10 second cycle so I am thinking two 10 second drops at a minimum would work for me?
thinking the 1000 lb model would get me through a month at that rate (minus what feed clings to the inside of the feeder)
I know it will empty pretty quickly but thinking of building a chickenwire cottonseed feeder too as another supplement. You don’t want to go that heavy for a few months. if you put out the 1k feeder next week, I’d put 500lb of 50% corn to protein and feed 2 seconds a spin and then increase as utilization goes up. You want them cleaning it up or moisture can cause it to clog. Higher the utilization per pound the less likely moisture will soak up the funnel.
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Timed protein feeder options
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09/03/24 02:28 PM
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Thanks all, I appreciate your responses
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