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Drone Survey Experience? #9070763 07/02/24 04:30 PM
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Has anyone on here tried out a drone survey for getting their MLD numbers? I came across a post the other day from a company called Sky Senderos and requested a quote from their website. The cost is very reasonable compared to helicopters we’ve flown in the past and the photos and videos on their site are impressive. But, I do have a buddy that tried out a drone on his property a few years back (with a different operator) who said it wasn’t worth a damn.

I’m done flying helicopters after we ran one of our biggest bucks into a fence last year. It would be nice not to need to spend all the time sorting through game camera photos though.

Has anyone used a thermal drone company more recently? Or even used Sky Senderos? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Re: Drone Survey Experience? [Re: jspencer1977] #9070886 07/02/24 09:00 PM
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So far no one has proven a process that can compete with trail cameras that I know of. Sounds good, but with brush almost impossible to get a count as good as trail cameras that pull out the deer from the thickets. Flying tools get about 60 % if that. However, if you're counting large amount of acres that may be the best way...but far from accurate and just a comparison from year to year at best.
Just my two cents.
Good luck,,,,I think it would interesting though

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I'm Harvest Option MLD, not Conservation Option, so I'm not required to do surveys. (Low fence.)


Sky Senderos posted on here not too long ago. I look forward to reading about someone's experience with them.


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I think it would be fun to do anyway.

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Ethan with Sky Senderos is a good dude.

He mapped my place for me.

We still survey with the helicopter, because we cant shoot hogs and dogs from a drone.


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Re: Drone Survey Experience? [Re: Creekrunner] #9073810 07/09/24 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Creekrunner
I'm Harvest Option MLD, not Conservation Option, so I'm not required to do surveys. (Low fence.)


Sky Senderos posted on here not too long ago. I look forward to reading about someone's experience with them.


If you're interested, we have multiple reviews on our website from previous clients. You can check these out towards the bottom of our home page at www.skysenderos.com. I'd also be happy to send you the contact information of some landowners in your area that we've worked with so you can talk with them directly!


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Re: Drone Survey Experience? [Re: jspencer1977] #9073939 07/10/24 02:05 AM
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I think a deer count by using drones and infrared would be fun and interesting to witness. However, how do you prove your accuracy? What % of the land do you think you cover in one fly count? You say you have an accurate way to count fawns ...how can you prove that accuracy? I think I would try using a drone process, if I still had my lease that is..lol. How do you tell a buck from another buck? I would like to see some of your calculations to determine the makeup of the herd...especially fawns and does.
I do believe a count from the air could be used as a trend only from two to three years only....but I haven't witnessed your process so you probably have a good procedure.

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With such a new technology, it's hard to necessarily "prove" our accuracy since a lot of places we work with don't know exactly what they have out there. There have been some studies, albeit limited about the effectiveness of the technology. Auburn University was able to achieve over 90% accuracy in this study: https://www.jstor.org/stable/27014794. While I don't believe our surveys are consistently that accurate, I would say we're able to identify 70-90% of the deer on most properties based on the few surveys we've done for landowners with robust management practices in place who are confident in the numbers they have. Of the animals we identify, we're able to differentiate bucks, does, fawns, etc. Our drones also fly pre-determined transects to ensure we cover 100% of the property. Ultimately, our services are much more accurate than a helicopter and require significantly less extrapolation.


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I would've made a good source to compare to as I have been counting deer for many years and have learned some tricks for accuracy comparisons. Most of my numbers compare to other numbers as this verifies the process. I can tell you how old each group is and I can tell you how many fawns I have without counting them and my count can tell you how many does I have and my counts verify those numbers. That is accuracy for the procedures and verifies the process. I can be within 95 to 98 % for the herd that I had. The area I had to count was 640 acres of low fence...try that for a solid process. I know what it takes to get good and great numbers. I was at the lease every other day for 30 years. I began to count deer when trail cameras came into use. In order to predict fawn crops you have to know a lot about your herd. I have devoted many hours through the years in the field and at the computer counting deer from the camera pict.s...10000 s of them each year. There is still a lot to learn.

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That's impressive! There's definitely nothing that beats simply being out at your property almost every day. Unfortunately, most people are unable to make that commitment.


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Re: Drone Survey Experience? [Re: jspencer1977] #9074913 Yesterday at 12:22 PM
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With those numbers shows there were no mature does and no twins and average herd age was 1.95...lol Just an educated guess as if I had those numbers on my lease.

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oops..I forgot ...this was taken the last of May which changes...so ....that would be different ....2 adults average age could be 2.1 with two sets of twins..and total of 31 fawns. lol

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Originally Posted by NGHTTRN
Ethan with Sky Senderos is a good dude.

He mapped my place for me.

We still survey with the helicopter, because we cant shoot hogs and dogs from a drone.

Thank you very much for the kind words, sir! I hope that new section is doing well!


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