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Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA #9064380 06/20/24 02:25 AM
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About 2800 arces of land went up for sale next to the Powderhorn WMA for just over 10 million dollars. Should TPWD make the move and buy it?
https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/homes/article/costa-grande-ranch-texas-19512546.php

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https://kinglandwater.com/properties/costa-grande-ranch/

Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: nhk outdoors] #9064387 06/20/24 02:33 AM
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They probably just wait unit it sells and then ED for 5 million


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Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: nhk outdoors] #9064391 06/20/24 02:37 AM
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Conservation easements are restrictive in ways that would more than likely prohibit the development the state would need to do to be able to utilize it for their needs. Even making a two track road could be in violation of the easement depending on how it was written.

Unlikely the state would make a play for it.


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Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: BOBO the Clown] #9064427 06/20/24 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown

They probably just wait unit it sells and then ED for 5 million


And then make it another state park that can’t support itself and operate it with my hunting license fees.

Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: nhk outdoors] #9064484 06/20/24 12:44 PM
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tpwd is more screwed up than woke democrats. Need to clean the whole top level out.

Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: nhk outdoors] #9064488 06/20/24 12:46 PM
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They are too busy trying to stop canned mountain lion hunts.


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Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: txtrophy85] #9064652 06/20/24 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
Conservation easements are restrictive in ways that would more than likely prohibit the development the state would need to do to be able to utilize it for their needs. Even making a two track road could be in violation of the easement depending on how it was written.

Unlikely the state would make a play for it.


Based on the description of the CEs in the listing, I think there is sufficient freedom for the state to make it into something usable.

Seems like a good play. They're trying to spend way more money than that to replace Fairfield Lake State Park. This could be extremely cool, and because of the CEs probably isn't a play that makes any sense for most private parties.

Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: ErnestTBass] #9064689 06/20/24 05:09 PM
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Conservation easements are restrictive in ways that would more than likely prohibit the development the state would need to do to be able to utilize it for their needs. Even making a two track road could be in violation of the easement depending on how it was written.

Unlikely the state would make a play for it.


Based on the description of the CEs in the listing, I think there is sufficient freedom for the state to make it into something usable.

Seems like a good play. They're trying to spend way more money than that to replace Fairfield Lake State Park. This could be extremely cool, and because of the CEs probably isn't a play that makes any sense for most private parties.


Every conservation easement is written different. No way you can gauge what is in it by that write up.

They dictate where the improvements can be built ( building envelopes) and can range from restrictive to extremely restrictive in terms of what you can do with the land. Even building a fence around the main camp can require approval from the NRCS. Pretty much everything from building a road to digging a water hole will require approval.

An end user with a conservation mind would much more a target buyer than a government entity.




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Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: nhk outdoors] #9065132 06/21/24 02:26 AM
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If the Fairfield incident is any indication on how they will handle situations of the sort... they’re too busy adding new unnecessary regulations to think anything like that out. Everyone knows canned mt lion hunting and not having a turkey harvest requirement was going to doom us all. They’ll wait until somebody buys it, and then try to pull the eminent domain hoopla and take it from someone for a fraction of what they just paid for it.

Re: Should TPWD buy this land next to Powderhorn WMA [Re: nhk outdoors] #9065356 06/21/24 04:05 PM
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They should quit screwing around and finish making Powderhorn into a usable state park first. I've been waiting for YEARS.

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