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PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters #9056464 06/03/24 12:01 PM
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Friendly reminder for Texans deer-hunting Oklahoma this year. The new regulations state that you'll need to possess a non-resident annual hunting license in addition to a non-resident rifle and/or archery tag. The prices for these go up on July 1st.

For example, if you only hunt deer with a rifle OR a bow, I believe it'll cost you around $710 after July 1st. $1211 if you want to hunt archery AND rifle.

If you buy before July 1st, it'll cost you $479 to hunt rifle or archery, or around $779 to hunt both.

If any of the above is incorrect, please let me know, but I believe this was the update when the bill was signed.


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Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: Sauerkraut] #9056494 06/03/24 01:07 PM
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You are correct sir, and those new license prices take effect on July 1st.

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The Senate also overturned the Governers veto of the tags, only 10% will be available to Non Residents. I suppose this is for public land.

Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: Sauerkraut] #9056544 06/03/24 02:28 PM
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Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: Sauerkraut] #9056570 06/03/24 03:11 PM
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Got my lifetime OK license back in 2000 when I lived there. $525 for the combo hunting/fishing. Glad I did it then. Has probably saved me $7-8K since then. Looks like way more than that in the future.

Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: Sauerkraut] #9057886 06/06/24 12:39 AM
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Threads like this make hunting in Africa seem cheaper and cheaper.

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Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: Sauerkraut] #9059238 06/08/24 10:57 PM
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Cable Smith was talking about this on his Lonestar Outdoor show today.

Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: syncerus] #9059838 06/10/24 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by syncerus
Threads like this make hunting in Africa seem cheaper and cheaper.


I’m genuinely concerned that people of my income level will be priced out of hunting eventually. I hope that’s not the case.


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Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: Sauerkraut] #9059929 06/10/24 04:28 PM
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Sauerkraut that is why we live in Wyoming. Licenses are affordable for residents and some for NRs are pretty dang cheap if you're hunting for meat not antlers.

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Sauerkraut that is why we live in Wyoming. Licenses are affordable for residents and some for NRs are pretty dang cheap if you're hunting for meat not antlers.

Resident licenses in OK are reasonable too. It's us Texans that have family and hunting opportunities in OK that are going to pay the piper.


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current federal policy is clearly irrational, scientifically insupportable and ridiculous.
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Yep , I get it.

I can see reasonable increases but theirs does sound excessive for all to go up that much all at once.
It will greatly affect some folks I'm betting.

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Well. It's made me change my mind about hunting Oklahoma. I was thinking about west central OK but Ima goin to SD or maybe NE if I can find public land to hunt in NE. There are now quite a few better (my opinion), cheaper places to hunt deer with a bow.


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Originally Posted by Wytex
Yep , I get it.

I can see reasonable increases but theirs does sound excessive for all to go up that much all at once.
It will greatly affect some folks I'm betting.

Yep. I hope that OK wildlife sees a huge drop in revenue from this, and decides to go back to the way it was. It was expensive enough as it was. I'll buy my son's license and my license before prices go up, and this may be the last year for the annual family trip to OK. Really chaps me. It was very cool for me to hunt the same extremely remote property that my Grandfather hunted along with my dad, sister nieces, nephews, etc. We used to bow hunt and rifle hunt every year. With the new prices of out of state licenses, that's gonna be a $10,000 endeavor. Ain't gonna be worth it.


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current federal policy is clearly irrational, scientifically insupportable and ridiculous.
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Oklahoma is going to miss a lot of revenue.

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Originally Posted by Sauerkraut
Friendly reminder for Texans deer-hunting Oklahoma this year. The new regulations state that you'll need to possess a non-resident annual hunting license in addition to a non-resident rifle and/or archery tag. The prices for these go up on July 1st.

For example, if you only hunt deer with a rifle OR a bow, I believe it'll cost you around $710 after July 1st. $1211 if you want to hunt archery AND rifle.

If you buy before July 1st, it'll cost you $479 to hunt rifle or archery, or around $779 to hunt both.

If any of the above is incorrect, please let me know, but I believe this was the update when the bill was signed.



So if I just want to archery hunt it only costs $300 before July 1st? and I don't need any other licenses?

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Originally Posted by Sauerkraut
Friendly reminder for Texans deer-hunting Oklahoma this year. The new regulations state that you'll need to possess a non-resident annual hunting license in addition to a non-resident rifle and/or archery tag. The prices for these go up on July 1st.

For example, if you only hunt deer with a rifle OR a bow, I believe it'll cost you around $710 after July 1st. $1211 if you want to hunt archery AND rifle.

If you buy before July 1st, it'll cost you $479 to hunt rifle or archery, or around $779 to hunt both.

If any of the above is incorrect, please let me know, but I believe this was the update when the bill was signed.



So if I just want to archery hunt it only costs $300 before July 1st? and I don't need any other licenses?

On thier FAQ page, you will still need the $300 archer license, but you will also need the regular hunting license that you did not need last year. But if you buy them before July1, you will pay last year's price for each instead of the new price.


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current federal policy is clearly irrational, scientifically insupportable and ridiculous.
Re: PSA - Oklahoma Non-Resident Hunters [Re: Sauerkraut] #9061246 06/13/24 01:49 AM
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I'm not surprised, Oklahoma is like many of the other states, particularly the Western states. The officials with Fish & Game see the data and they see the revenue opportunity. What I've never understood and what no one has never really been able to explain is the ridiculous price differences between a resident and a non-resident tag for the same animal.


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I would love to see some data showing where the threshold is for nonresident hunters to decide not to hunt because the price is too high. It seems like large changes in one year would be at least somewhat of a deterrent to out of state folks.

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Well, I was thinking of hunting up there this year, my buddy bought a 100ac farm, but even if I buy before July it's going to be almost $500 just to bow hunt. I'll just stick to my (lucky me) lifetime license in Kansas.

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I don't know of any of the major states like Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.... that have ever failed at selling all of their Non-Resident tags for their big game animals. Honestly, I don't think there is a point that that they will see a decline. There is so much wealth in this country that there will always be someone who will buy the tag/licenses.


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Originally Posted by GPS
I don't know of any of the major states like Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.... that have ever failed at selling all of their Non-Resident tags for their big game animals. Honestly, I don't think there is a point that that they will see a decline. There is so much wealth in this country that there will always be someone who will buy the tag/licenses.


Oklahoma will be the test case for this. Oklahoma isn't selling an elk or mule deer mountain experience. We'll have to wait and see. The question isn't if number of license go down it is if the revenue goes down. I don't expect that to happen but I do expect the number of NR licenses to decrease sharply. This may make for a better hunt experience. I don't know how many NR license were issued last year so I can't say if NRs were having a disparate impact on quality of hunt perceptions. Obviously there was some pushback from locals. Land owners, restaurants, motels and other retail establishments may have something to say in the future. I'm sure this is taken into account by the economists and accountants (never trust the accountants, a disreputable rabble if ever there was one). In the end, it's still the Kings deer (although you have more say in the matter then you did in feudal europe). In this instance, the king is residents. I would like to look at a Texas system that says whatever it cost in your home state for a Texan to hunt white-tailed deer is what it will cost you in Texas. I'm skeptical this will work but it sure would feel good. For the record, my opinion of this will likely change once I move to AZ (see note above about accountants...).


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I don't know of any of the major states like Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.... that have ever failed at selling all of their Non-Resident tags for their big game animals. Honestly, I don't think there is a point that that they will see a decline. There is so much wealth in this country that there will always be someone who will buy the tag/licenses.


Oklahoma will be the test case for this. Oklahoma isn't selling an elk or mule deer mountain experience. We'll have to wait and see. The question isn't if number of license go down it is if the revenue goes down. I don't expect that to happen but I do expect the number of NR licenses to decrease sharply. This may make for a better hunt experience. I don't know how many NR license were issued last year so I can't say if NRs were having a disparate impact on quality of hunt perceptions. Obviously there was some pushback from locals. Land owners, restaurants, motels and other retail establishments may have something to say in the future. I'm sure this is taken into account by the economists and accountants (never trust the accountants, a disreputable rabble if ever there was one). In the end, it's still the Kings deer (although you have more say in the matter then you did in feudal europe). In this instance, the king is residents. I would like to look at a Texas system that says whatever it cost in your home state for a Texan to hunt white-tailed deer is what it will cost you in Texas. I'm skeptical this will work but it sure would feel good. For the record, my opinion of this will likely change once I move to AZ (see note above about accountants...).


Okla does sell mountain experiences for Elk. They also sell mule deer and pronghorns.

This isn’t about revenue as much as whinny residents, just like CO. They get pissed when you draw a OIL tag. I cant tell you how many comments I’ve heard back in the check in days.


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This was a Bill and the OK legislature has basically set a baseline for license prices. Per the Bill, going forward the commission's license fee recommendation to the legislature will be based on CPI data every 5 years. So the new license cost is locked in for 5 years and since inflation is never going away, you can expect a significant increase again in 5 years.

E. Five (5) years after the effective date of this act, and
every five (5) years thereafter, the Commission shall prepare a
report for the Legislature with proposed licensing fees based on the
latest Consumer Price Index year-to-date percent change release as
of the date of the annual average county wage data release from the
Bureau of Economic Analysis of the U.S. Department of Commerce for
Legislature approval or rejection.

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Get used to it folks, states are going to take care of their residents first , as they should.
Whinny? Looks like the NRs are the ones whining now.
More and more folks want to hunt outside of their home state but the resource is not infinite. They have to manage hunters and the anima's.

You all need to get Texas in line, although your deer license is not cheap, certainly not expensive for NRs.

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Texas is "In-Line" and Managed Well, it has more deer than any other state. We understand it's all about the money, when and if I draw for Wyoming for deer (14 points) and antelope I'll be done with Wyoming. Been hunting there since 1994.

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