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Kentucky Bans Hog Hunting #9049883 05/20/24 04:28 PM
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In their infinite and in my opinion flawed logic, the DNR and legislators have banned the hunting of hogs to "make them easier to trap".

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Not the first state to do so, and I'm not mad about it.


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Originally Posted by puma guy
In their infinite and in my opinion flawed logic, the DNR and legislators have banned the hunting of hogs to "make them easier to trap".

Kentucky Bans Hog Hunting


Soooo, texas was wrong ?

Do they need ta ban hog hunting in texas ?


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Don’t agree with this. Can’t hunt them on your own land (unless they’re causing damage) but call us so we can trap them on your land. Pound sand.

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Kentucky has gone RINO yankee retard. Hogs learn about traps the first time they see another hog in a trap. Not from being shot or shot at. Tell me exactly how shooting hogs makes them trap shy? Because they are dead.

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Originally Posted by 68A
Don’t agree with this. Can’t hunt them on your own land (unless they’re causing damage) but call us so we can trap them on your land. Pound sand.


Any hog on any land is going to be causing damage to it.


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Originally Posted by VAFish
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Don’t agree with this. Can’t hunt them on your own land (unless they’re causing damage) but call us so we can trap them on your land. Pound sand.


Any hog on any land is going to be causing damage to it.



Don’t disagree, thus it’s a ridiculous proposal.

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Yeah... Here in PA we run into the same, "I'm smarter than anybody" syndrome from the PA game commission. Of course that mindset leads to destruction and needless hardships. Maybe Ben should just order the hogs into the traps. Better yet, he should order the hogs to move out of KY.


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posted this in the other thread too.

if they really want to control them they need to at least do a pilot program with warfarin.

there is no "keeping up with them" unless you can kill about 65% of them, that is just to "keep up" out here.

they are a self inflicted problem that has grown almost unmanageable even with hunting, you may get some of a sounder but if 4-5 or more get away you just thinned the herd for a bit.

either large traps that are regularly monitored/attended to or warfarin imo are the best option to just control them, I don't see them ever being eradicated completely.

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It could be that he is trying to take out the commercial incentive to hunt hogs for a fee. Otherwise the ban doesn't seem to make any sense.


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The agency has been encouraging Kentuckians to refrain from shooting feral hogs and instead report sightings so that the animals can be trapped and removed.


You know what is going to happen. 1000 people asking for limited state resources...maybe 100 traps and state employees to set them up.

In the mean those waiting get their land torn up.

Screw that. Blast them and get them off your property.


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Originally Posted by 68A
Don’t agree with this. Can’t hunt them on your own land (unless they’re causing damage) but call us so we can trap them on your land. Pound sand.


in their defense the hunter effectiveness or lack there of is very well documented when compared to trapping, Judas and Heli.

with that said the law reads the same as Texas Crows. When is a crow not causing depredation


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by 68A
Don’t agree with this. Can’t hunt them on your own land (unless they’re causing damage) but call us so we can trap them on your land. Pound sand.


in their defense the hunter effectiveness or lack there of is very well documented when compared to trapping, Judas and Heli.

with that said the law reads the same as Texas Crows. When is a crow not causing depredation


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When they are sleeping. wink

Any other time they are either causing depredation or trouble of some kind. Hate a crow!


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The agency has been encouraging Kentuckians to refrain from shooting feral hogs and instead report sightings so that the animals can be trapped and removed.


You know what is going to happen. 1000 people asking for limited state resources...maybe 100 traps and state employees to set them up.

In the mean those waiting get their land torn up.

Screw that. Blast them and get them off your property.


Yep. Sounds like it will be a Kentucky version of the SSS threads but with hogs instead of dogs.

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Don’t agree with this. Can’t hunt them on your own land (unless they’re causing damage) but call us so we can trap them on your land. Pound sand.


in their defense the hunter effectiveness or lack there of is very well documented when compared to trapping, Judas and Heli.

with that said the law reads the same as Texas Crows. When is a crow not causing depredation


Hunter success ratio? Compared to trapping? I shoot and have shot far more hogs than I have trapped and I kept traps going 24/7 for years. Where do they get the hunter success information? From trap manufacturers?

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If there are more, than they'll claim success by catching more. Leave them alone to breed, explode their numbers, then claim success when you trap more. Nevermind that there are still just as many or more running around the woods as there were before you started. The goal here is more tax dollars, not controlling hog populations.

This is BS government logic on display.


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Originally Posted by rickt300
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Don’t agree with this. Can’t hunt them on your own land (unless they’re causing damage) but call us so we can trap them on your land. Pound sand.


in their defense the hunter effectiveness or lack there of is very well documented when compared to trapping, Judas and Heli.

with that said the law reads the same as Texas Crows. When is a crow not causing depredation


Hunter success ratio? Compared to trapping? I shoot and have shot far more hogs than I have trapped and I kept traps going 24/7 for years. Where do they get the hunter success information? From trap manufacturers?


I've no doubt what you say is true. There really isn't a 'One Size Fits All' solution to reducing Feral Hog numbers on any given piece of property or area.

In my case, the inverse is true. I trap/snare FAR more hogs than I shoot in a year.....even though I have 3 dedicated 'Hog Stands' that are baited year 'round.

The method(s) used to seek out and kill hogs successfully will vary from one spot to another owing to several things.

1. Numbers of hogs in a typical year
2. Size of property and its resources
3. Hunter pressure on the property and surrounding properties
4. Time and money the Landowner/Agent is willing to invest
5. Goals for the property (you want NO hogs or you actually DO want some hogs....just not too many).


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Ban hog hunting ?

They they ones taking away gun rights!!!

They, (DNR & Legislators) have fallen for that thar Guns don't kill bs .

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Are you at least permitted to use foul language against those Kentucky hogs, or does that also tend to sensitize them to interactions near humans and diminish trapping success?

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Kentucky has gone RINO yankee retard. Hogs learn about traps the first time they see another hog in a trap. Not from being shot or shot at. Tell me exactly how shooting hogs makes them trap shy? Because they are dead.


It appears protecting the hog trapping market became the top priority.


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It appears protecting the hog trapping market became the top priority.


Privatize the profits. Socialize the losses. A trend affecting both sides of the aisle for decades now.

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Originally Posted by rickt300
Kentucky has gone RINO yankee retard. Hogs learn about traps the first time they see another hog in a trap. Not from being shot or shot at. Tell me exactly how shooting hogs makes them trap shy? Because they are dead.


The argument is that shooting them and shooting at them breaks up the sounders and makes them scatter farther and the broken up sound will form new sounders and so now instead of trying to trap a single sounder, you have 3 or 23 sounders to get because you shot into a sounder that was well nucleated, happy, living a content life until a lone hunter ruined it for everyone.

Sounders absolutely break apart when you shoot at them. Then they coalesce right back into a sounder once again, minus whatever hogs you shot and maybe minus whatever tag-along boars were with the group.

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It appears protecting the hog trapping market became the top priority.


There is no marketing of feral hogs in Kentucky. Private citizens are not being allowed to hunt or trap. There is zero indication that the Kentucky or the feds are selling the feral hogs they have captured. Hence, there is no trapping market being made a top priority because there is no market at all.


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From the article:

"Under the new regulation, pigs could still be shot if they’re damaging private land, "

Read more at: https://www.winchestersun.com/2024/...swine-in-hopes-of-slowing-their-advance/


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Ever thought I’d see the day they made it against the law to shoot them. On the other hand I 100% believe there are enough people out there that enjoy/profit from them that they will never be able to eradicate them. Too many people and property owners like them.


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