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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/14/24 12:37 AM
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The original lawsuit was due to the warfrin that might be consumed by humans or other animals. Problem still exists - they tried to add a colorant to make tainted meat blue.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/14/24 03:58 AM
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The original lawsuit was due to the warfrin that might be consumed by humans or other animals. Problem still exists - they tried to add a colorant to make tainted meat blue. The lawsuit was a temporary restraining order, nothing more. The operative word here is 'temporary.' That just stopped the public use of the product, but not the testing of it. Now, that time has passed. https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/hog-poison.pdfBlue was used in warfarin long before it was being used for hog bait. In fact, the blue most commonly used is bromadiolone and it has been used as a poison marker for more than 50 years. Here is an article from 2017 noting the blue hog from California from 2015 or before, stained blue from rodenticide with blue dyed warfarin. https://www.wideopenspaces.com/what...-this-pig-that-has-the-internet-buzzing/
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/14/24 12:31 PM
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I saw nothing in any article that addresses the effect eating meat tainted with warfarin may have on someone who is already on blood thinners.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/14/24 03:08 PM
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Makes you wonder if Sid Miller (and others) are financially invested in this?
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/14/24 03:43 PM
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Pigs are a problem for many, but they are here, just like exotics in Florida. Make the best of it as you can, but adding this stuff to bait stations and all the critters that will eat it, from deer to mice, is going to cause much more harm to the big business of hunting, and the amount of rotting meat to feed predator's will cause a rapid rise in them, not to mention health hazards to people. Heck, go ahead, feed it to all the animals, and see where that takes you for the big bucks hunting brings in, who knows, prices on leases for hunting might drop when there's nothing to hunt.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/14/24 08:11 PM
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It can stay in the human body 40 - 80 hrs. It reduces vitamin K, i.e. clotting. Used to be the main ingredient in rat poison. Suspect yotes and humans are hog predators. It could possible cause stroke in those taking blood thinners if eaten, hence the blue coloring. Guess the corporate farmers are the ones pushing this.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/14/24 08:35 PM
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It takes up to five days for the hogs to die. A sounder of hogs can cover a big area in that amount of time. They’ll like die on someone else’s property who will be left with the mess. This whole issue smells of impropriety.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/15/24 11:01 AM
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You'll be fine...munch away.
Warning Oral route (Tablet)
Warfarin can cause major or fatal bleeding. Regular monitoring of INR should be performed on all treated patients. Drugs, dietary changes, and other factors affect INR levels achieved with warfarin sodium therapy. Instruct patients about prevention measures to minimize risk of bleeding and to report signs and symptoms of bleeding.
Serious side effects of Warfarin Along with its needed effects, warfarin may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.
Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking warfarin:
Less common Bleeding gums blood in the urine bloody stools blurred vision burning, crawling, itching, numbness, prickling, "pins and needles", or tingling feelings chest pain or discomfort confusion coughing up blood difficulty with breathing or swallowing dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position excessive bruising headache increased menstrual flow or vaginal bleeding nosebleeds paralysis peeling of the skin prolonged bleeding from cuts red or black, tarry stools red or dark brown urine stomach pain with cramping sweating unexplained swelling unusual tiredness or weakness Rare Arm, back, or jaw pain blue-green to black skin discoloration blue or purple toes change in consciousness chest tightness or heaviness chills clay-colored stools diarrhea dizziness fainting or loss of consciousness fast or irregular breathing fast or irregular heartbeat fever itching or skin rash light-colored stools loss of appetite nausea and vomiting pain in the toes pain, redness, or sloughing of the skin pale skin purplish red, net-like, blotchy spots on the skin skin blisters small red or purple spots on the skin stomach pain swelling of the eyes or eyelids troubled breathing with exertion unpleasant breath odor unusual bleeding or bruising upper right stomach pain vomiting of blood yellow eyes and skin Other side effects of Warfarin Some side effects of warfarin may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects.
Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them:
Less common Joint pain muscle pain Rare Bloated change in taste, or bad, unusual, or unpleasant (after) taste cold intolerance excess air or gas in the stomach or intestines full feeling general feeling of discomfort or illness hair loss or thinning of the hair hives or welts lack or loss of strength pain passing gas red, sore, or itching skin sores, welting, or blisters unusual drowsiness, dullness, or feeling of sluggishness For Healthcare Professionals Applies to warfarin: compounding powder, intravenous powder for injection, oral tablet.
General The most common adverse reactions were fatal and nonfatal hemorrhage from any tissue or organ.[Ref]
Cardiovascular Frequency not reported: Hemorrhage, purple toes syndrome, infarction, systemic cholesterol microembolization, vasculitis, systemic atheroemboli[Ref]
Nervous system Frequency not reported: Cerebral hemorrhage, cerebral subdural hematoma, lethargy, headache, dizziness, taste perversion, paresthesia[Ref]
Gastrointestinal Frequency not reported: Gastrointestinal hemorrhage, rectal hemorrhage, hematemesis, pancreatitis, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, melena, abdominal pain, cramping, flatulence, bloating[Ref]
Dermatologic Frequency not reported: Rash, alopecia, purpura, erythematous swollen skin patches, ecchymosis, skin necrosis, dermatitis, bullous eruptions, urticaria, pruritus[Ref]
Musculoskeletal Frequency not reported: Tissue necrosis, chills[Ref]
Metabolic Frequency not reported: Calciphylaxis, edema[Ref]
Respiratory Frequency not reported: Hemothorax, epistaxis, tracheal or tracheobronchial calcification[Ref]
Genitourinary Frequency not reported: Hematuria[Ref]
Hematologic Frequency not reported: Unexplained decrease in hematocrit, hemoglobin decreased[Ref]
Hepatic Frequency not reported: Jaundice, hepatic dysfunction, hepatitis, cholestatic hepatic injury, liver enzymes elevated[Ref]
Immunologic Frequency not reported: Hypersensitivity, allergic reactions, anaphylactic reactions[Ref]
Other Frequency not reported: Fever, fatigue, malaise, asthenia, pain, cold intolerance, feeling cold[Ref]
Just like Jesus, sometimes you gotta kill some hogs. Lone Star Mesquite . com RattleSnake Dan's Shredding Service
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/15/24 03:06 PM
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Like most meds, if it don't heal you, might kill you.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/18/24 04:02 PM
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Makes you wonder if Sid Miller (and others) are financially invested in this? Follow the money is a time-tested truth.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/18/24 08:26 PM
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Makes you wonder if Sid Miller (and others) are financially invested in this? Follow the money is a time-tested truth. THIS! That crap will never be on my land.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/18/24 09:15 PM
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Makes you wonder if Sid Miller (and others) are financially invested in this? Follow the money is a time-tested truth. THIS! That crap will never be on my land. The problem is, does your neighbor feel the same way?
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/18/24 09:18 PM
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[quote=DUKFVR]The problem is, does your neighbor feel the same way? If his neighbor learns how much it will cost, the neighbor will feel the same way.
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Re: Warfarin Making a Comeback
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02/19/24 01:59 AM
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Where can I buy Warfarin?
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