Going to be running a water line to a home site. 1300 feet in length 15-20 feet vertical rise from meter. Meter is 3/4 inch. One person has recommended we run 2 inch seemed excessive to me. What size, and what material would you recommend?

The head of a 2" pipe full of water over that distance and rise may exceed the pressure at the meter but I would have to dust off a book to know for sure. Normally that rise would only have about 5-7 psi and I am not sure if the length of the run adds to that from friction.

This should be good,,,,,,,,,if you know, you know.

Red , I have a State Fire Marshall underground license, PM sent

Pipe diameter has no effect on column psi.

The vertical rise will cost you around 9 psi, then you have to add friction loss which will be the larger number by far. You have to decide how much flow you need per minute. I would use around 15-20 gallons per minute or more.

Looks like 1-1/2" with 60 psi at the meter, would give you 51 psi at the house with a very small flow. As you open more faucets and increase the flow to around 20 gallons per minute, the pressure will only be 20 psi. (sinks/showers/appliances/garden hose combined)

2" makes better sense assuming schedule 40 PVC.

Link to calculator : Water Flow in pipes

Marc

There is a regulator at the meter but believe they have 90 psi plus at the meter.

I'd run 2" Apache pipe (from a roll) meter to house.

Head pressure loss is .434 psi per foot of elevation. So your 15-20 feet of elevation is losing almost 10 psi.

Friction loss is directly affected by pipe diameter, and gpm flowing through it. That's why fire engines carry 5" supply line. It has almost no friction loss.

I'd rather need to reduce pressure at the house, than to get there and have not enough pressure. Trenching the ditch and back filling it is all the work anyway. Might as well put in a little bit bigger pipe and be done with it.

Is that fire protection sprinklers?

Apache Pipe?

Enlightenment me, I googled and it said Apache was based in Canada and does oil and gas piping.

Correct company?

Open to alternatives to pvc also. Someone recommended hydromaxx… I’m not sure it’s rated for potable water and if you google it make sure it has two xx’s at the end lol

My house has 800' of 2" pvc with a 5/8" meter. I get good pressure at full-flow at the house, and no 'pressure-drop' issues with multiple faucets running water, even with a full-open water hose going.

For your 1300' and 3/4 meter you would want MINIMUM 2" line, as 1300' can equate to a ton of friction in the line at full-meter-flow rates for any smaller size main line.

The bigger pipe 'lowers friction' by reducing the velocity of the water in the pipe necessary to maintain a certain flow rate.
A smaller pipe will also INCREASE water-hammer when shutting off high-flow faucets.

Hmmm.

I thought this was gonna be question for NORML. Carry on.

2" PVC will be your best choice, 3" will just be over kill and eat you alive in cost.

PVC has like tripled in the last 2 years.

RooR

Have located some 20 foot joints of 2”, looks like our boy.

Usually only Homeo Depot and Blowes sells 10 feet stick of PVC, most supply house have 20 feet sticks......

I bet he likes a hot smoke. Just a guess.

Of course you are correct. You would think that I'd remember that since I deal with this stuff almost daily. I have never laid down a 1300 ft long run before. Do they make 2-in pex or is that just too darn expensive? I had to buy a big roll of inch and a half pex a while back and was blown away at what it cost

No Sir, actually I'm a joint man I never cared for pipes.. Except for the Power Hitter I had in the 70's.

They were made in Austin Texas.

How bout a joint every 500 feet?

Unless you like extra work and expense, and more joints for potential leaks.

Is that the Apache pipe you are talking about?

Is it safe for potable water?

I looked on their website and don't see prices for or pipe for potable water, only for oil and gas

Apache Pipe

Apache was going from memory of a friend of mine that put in one run of pipe, 200 yards long from meter to house. No joints except for the ends.

The black pipe on the roll is suitable for potable water.

It's like using Pex for the main service line.

Personally, I would build a dispenser that connected to the skid steer. Straddle the ditch and back up.

Definitely not against other products. I’m not familiar with a product. Couldn’t find much on the Apache. I also would like to stay with something that isn’t abnormal so to say want to be able to buy parts, we will be adding a few spots along the way for some hose bibs etc not sure how that would work. Plus I’ve dealt with pvc. If there is a better readily available product I would consider it for sure.