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Re: THF Gardening Thread [Re: fredeboy] #8812140 03/04/23 12:12 AM
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The idea is you stop vertical growth and support horizontal growth per say. Making it a more bushy plant, instead of a tall tree type. Once you cut the main stem it produces more shoots/nodes, creating more growth from the main stem and increasing more yield per plant. Plants in nature want to produce their fruit in general and go to seed to reproduce.So you cut the main stem of that cycle. So it puts it's energy to get as many stems or side stems as possible to reproduce instead of a single stem and just produce whatever instead of going to bloom cycle. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the jist of it.


Does it work with tomatoes?


Supposedly yes. But I haven't tried it. I go determinate tomatoes so they only get to a certain size, but I might try it this year. I need to grow two of the same side by side, top one and leave one regular. I can see it really working for indeterminate types like a Porter.


Will see how it works on my porter cause I think the hail topped it. bolt


Keep an eye on temps next weekend. Right now they are forecasting a freeze next Saturday and Sunday morning.

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Thanks for the info on the peppers, helps a bunch. Wife ordered a light for me anyway, but given the temps forecasted for next weekend it'll probably help to sustain growth. Gonna try tomatoes too. My dad, now almost 80, does tomatoes from seed for the church garden back home and has pretty good success. I think that'll be a good way to get some different varieties. I really dig the little yella pear tomatoes and some of the Roma varieties. Cilantro and chives will GG et going after that. Basically growing a mess of containers for jellies, salsa, and peppers to either add raw or dry down and powder for sausage making.

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Yeah you're golden. Rock it. Great group of people in here that have multiple ways and techniques of growing. Don't get discouraged if something doesn't work the way you thought it would or you kill a plant or 10 lol. We've all been there. Get your hands dirty and learn from your experiences. Take some notes to go back and reference to. You can read on here or google or wherever. The only way to really learn is put seed in the soil and go full throttle. You will have your wins and you will have your losses. Stay dedicated to it and your losses will be minimalized as you go along. LFG Bones!

Re: THF Gardening Thread [Re: Payne] #8812187 03/04/23 03:06 AM
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And for the newbies. I'm sure y'all are watching YT's on gardening. Nothing wrong with that. But you think you have to buy XYZ products for this or that, that they are pushing. I/we get it. It's easy to get sucked down that rabbit hole. Most of those products aren't that great and the same product is labeled differently and available at a much cheaper price. If there is something you're thinking about buying post it up. Let some the people here look at it and have an opinion on it.

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Derek, when transplanting your plants to Dixie cups do you use a potting soil like miracle grow or what?

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I've done a far amount of gardening since I was a kid but the whole starting indoors thing and hot peppers from seed is new to me. The only thing I remember starting inside from seed was tomatoes in dixie cups with cellophane over the top usually from a pack of pall malls. Everything else wias a direct sow outside. Felt like some kinda yuppie buying a seed starter kit.

The internet really kinda opened my eyes to the varieties of peppers avaliable. With a huge growing season down here I'm excited to try some of these out. Gotta be cautious like has been mentioned of buying unnecessary stuff though and watch what people are really selling or "know". A couple seed places mentioned their varieties of peppers were deer proof. Had to laugh; I've watched deer out at my buddy's place in Lampasas scarf down bird peppers and the deer when I was stationed up at Ft Knox in Kentucky were pretty fond of poblanos.

My peppers are putting out the two little sprout leaves this morning so I'm getting somewhere. Gonna stick em in the sun once it breaks 70 or so this morning.

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I've done a far amount of gardening since I was a kid but the whole starting indoors thing and hot peppers from seed is new to me. The only thing I remember starting inside from seed was tomatoes in dixie cups with cellophane over the top usually from a pack of pall malls. Everything else wias a direct sow outside. Felt like some kinda yuppie buying a seed starter kit.

The internet really kinda opened my eyes to the varieties of peppers avaliable. With a huge growing season down here I'm excited to try some of these out. Gotta be cautious like has been mentioned of buying unnecessary stuff though and watch what people are really selling or "know". A couple seed places mentioned their varieties of peppers were deer proof. Had to laugh; I've watched deer out at my buddy's place in Lampasas scarf down bird peppers and the deer when I was stationed up at Ft Knox in Kentucky were pretty fond of poblanos.

My peppers are putting out the two little sprout leaves this morning so I'm getting somewhere. Gonna stick em in the sun once it breaks 70 or so this morning.

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Originally Posted by Dalee7892
Derek, when transplanting your plants to Dixie cups do you use a potting soil like miracle grow or what?


I like to use a mix of MG garden soil and coco coir seed starter mix. I’m not brand specific. Any garden soil will be fine. On the seed starter mix it will say it’s coco based and not peat. This year I’m using Burpees that I found at Tractor Supply. I like coco as it absorbs water easily.

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Originally Posted by Bones72
I've done a far amount of gardening since I was a kid but the whole starting indoors thing and hot peppers from seed is new to me. The only thing I remember starting inside from seed was tomatoes in dixie cups with cellophane over the top usually from a pack of pall malls. Everything else wias a direct sow outside. Felt like some kinda yuppie buying a seed starter kit.

The internet really kinda opened my eyes to the varieties of peppers avaliable. With a huge growing season down here I'm excited to try some of these out. Gotta be cautious like has been mentioned of buying unnecessary stuff though and watch what people are really selling or "know". A couple seed places mentioned their varieties of peppers were deer proof. Had to laugh; I've watched deer out at my buddy's place in Lampasas scarf down bird peppers and the deer when I was stationed up at Ft Knox in Kentucky were pretty fond of poblanos.

My peppers are putting out the two little sprout leaves this morning so I'm getting somewhere. Gonna stick em in the sun once it breaks 70 or so this morning.


Mockingbirds hammer down on my Chiltipens. I’ve had them pick a plant clean in a matter of a couple days. I wouldn’t be overly concerned about temps after germination except obviously a frost or freezing temps. My garage has gotten as low as upper 40’s this winter and didn’t affect the plants at all. If you got sun out and it’s 50 degrees plus, I’d get them in it.

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My strawberry barrel is kicking.

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That’s looking great 👍, what chemicals do you have in the barrel?

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After the end of each summer I dump the soil from the barrel onto a tarp. Then add a five-gallon bucket of peat moss and a five-gallon bucket of my own year-old compost, and about a gallon of pearlite. After mixing that all of that together well, I refill the barrel and let it sit until strawberry planting time. I put bare root plants in sometime in late January/early February. Once they are growing well I'll hit them with a little liquid miracle grow every few weeks. I'm generally able to pick two pints of berries every three days from mid-March until mid-June.


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I appreciate the info, we’ve got about a dozen big strawberry plants in the greenhouse now and I think I might give this a shot.

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That barrel has 34 plants, 30 around the side and 4 on top.


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Here's a good tutorial on the general concept for building the barrel. I did mine a little differently. I drilled 1/2" holes six-inches apart and connected them by cutting with a saber saw. Then used a cheap electric heat gun to heat the plastic. That worked fine, but was a lot slower than the method shown in the video.



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Never heard of a Cappuccino Chiltepin....


I did those 2 years ago. The pods were tiny AH, a million of them annd they were all seeds on the inside. Tasted spot on though.


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My Anaheims and stunted poblanos are finally taking off. Thinking that putting em outside was all the magic necessary.

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Originally Posted by Bones72
My Anaheims and stunted poblanos are finally taking off. Thinking that putting em outside was all the magic necessary.


Atta boy. You got this! cheers

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Anyone have tips on transplanting pecan trees?

We are going to dig up 5 trees from a friend’s property tomorrow and plant them here at my property. Trees range from about 1-4 inches in diameter.


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Anyone have tips on transplanting pecan trees?

We are going to dig up 5 trees from a friend’s property tomorrow and plant them here at my property. Trees range from about 1-4 inches in diameter.

good luck! Pecan trees have a long tap root (at least those I have planted did). ours looked like a long shovel handle, dug a post hole to drop down deep to cover the roots. That has been many years ago, like 35-40, but we bought from a guy that pulled them up out of the San Gabriel river bottom in sand/pea gravel drifts.


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They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20

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They’re definitely picking up after the new lighting system and some of the 20-20-20

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Those look awesome!

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Wow those are looking good but they need to be in the ground! JMHO cheers

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