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Ruger SFAR .308
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02/05/23 11:01 PM
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To start, I got out of .308 AR’s a few years ago due to the love/hate relationship I had. Then I hear of this .308 by Ruger which comes in a 6.8 lbs and my interest peaked. So I didn’t want to order, didn’t want to drive to Scheels (1.5 hour drive) and I figured I would run across one eventually at one my local gun shops. Well, 2 week ago prior to the ice storm I find one and buy it. I purchased just 2 different types of ammo to see what it liked. Today, I took it out to my range At this point, I am disappointed…3”,4” plus inch groups out of this rifle. Yes, the scope is fine it’s a Burris Signature and I’ve had it on 3 different rifles, the rings are tight and the mount is secure. Before I call this a turd, I’ll try some different ammo. But I’ve never had a .308 anything shoot like this. Here is the rifle, here is the ammo. Anybody had any luck with these and if so, what ammo did it like?
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/05/23 11:34 PM
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They seem to be hit or miss from what I’ve seen on the forums. Are you having any cycling issues or is it just accuracy? Federal Fusion ammo has a good reputation for accuracy.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/05/23 11:44 PM
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/05/23 11:45 PM
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They seem to be hit or miss from what I’ve seen on the forums. Are you having any cycling issues or is it just accuracy? Federal Fusion ammo has a good reputation for accuracy. Zero malfunctions, ran great As far as factory trigger, Ill give it a A, It is light weight as advertised, ill give that an A, as far as accuracy so far ill give that a F Ill grab some 168's and some 180's next week But so far, piss poor on accuracy I am holding off on calling this a turd but those groups were pathetic
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 12:07 AM
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Did you clean it before you shot it?
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 12:09 AM
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What is that on your muzzle?
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 12:17 AM
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Did you clean it before you shot it? I did not
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 12:17 AM
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What is that on your muzzle? Silencor Co Hybrid
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 12:20 AM
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40 rounds and the best was close to 3'', the avg was about 4'' and the worst was near 6"
I was discusted personally
3 rounds, 5-10 min cool down, until 40 rounds..
It amazes me that I have a Ruger Ranch 300 BO that I pig hunt w that will shoot 3/4" all day
Same company
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 01:12 AM
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I'd try some 150s before I chunked the gun.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 01:19 AM
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I'd try some 150s before I chunked the gun. Ill for sure do a grab bag of solid ammo before I call I dead...I will add 150, 168 and 180 Ill add pics for the next, until them y'all will just have to believe me Ive had BCA, Ruger Americans and AK's shoot much better than this, much better But for the life of me, I can't imagine a company like Ruger putting out something like this...its bad Since this post, I have went out on a google trail...I aint the only one with poor results
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 01:26 AM
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I'd try some 150s before I chunked the gun. Ill for sure do a grab bag of solid ammo before I call I dead...I will add 150, 168 and 180 Ill add pics for the next, until them y'all will just have to believe me Ive had BCA, Ruger Americans and AK's shoot much better than this, much better But for the life of me, I can't imagine a company like Ruger putting out something like this...its bad Since this post, I have went out on a google trail...I aint the only one with poor results I'd clean it before you shoot it again too, but, yeah. That is pretty disappointing.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 01:30 AM
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I am game...
1. Ill clean it before the next time 2. Ill add 3 more choices of ammo 3. Ill email Ruger about what a turd they are selling
I have my doubts, ive never had a factory new, never owned, never shot rifle shoot this poorly
But I will do what I say and we will see...
Ill post up the results in about a week or so
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 01:31 AM
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Did you try it without suppressor?
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 01:33 AM
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Did you try it without suppressor? I did not
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 02:09 AM
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Did you try it without suppressor? I did not I’d definitely try it. My 22 comp gun shoots one hole at 50 yards all day long. I screwed on my sparrow and it opened up to about 2 inches at 50 yards. I do not use my can on my comp gun.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 02:18 AM
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If a 308 won’t shoot boxed federal gold metal match in the 168 or the 175 range under 1”, its not gonna shoot anything worth a hoot. My two cents and experience. If you can find some on a shelf somewhere, cabelas had some a while back for about $38 per 20
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 03:30 AM
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Did you clean it before you shot it? I did not Then you skipped an important step. New rifles have dirty bores. They may have a combination of machining oil, fouling if they test fired them, and maybe oil they apply to the firearm before shipping. I've cleaned hundreds of rifles, including new rifles. Only 1 was already clean. And that was an AR-10 built by GA Precision and shipped to a local Police Department.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 03:30 AM
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Did you try it without suppressor? I did not I’d definitely try it. My 22 comp gun shoots one hole at 50 yards all day long. I screwed on my sparrow and it opened up to about 2 inches at 50 yards. I do not use my can on my comp gun. Yup. And if it won't shoot factory ammo with the suppressor, then a load development would be in order.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 03:33 AM
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If a 308 won’t shoot boxed federal gold metal match in the 168 or the 175 range under 1”, its not gonna shoot anything worth a hoot. My two cents and experience. If you can find some on a shelf somewhere, cabelas had some a while back for about $38 per 20 I was literately about to post this. If it won’t shoot gold medal match, then it is the rifle. This isn’t encouraging. This rifle was on my pick up one day list. My piece of junk PSA was an MOA gun but it weight 18 pounds equipped to hunt so I let it go.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 11:07 AM
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We are in the pig contest and going pretty hard at it Thurs-Sunday
So if I don’t give an update, I will once I have time, maybe 2 weeks
-clean barrel -use different grains of ammo -remove suppressor
I’ll do all that once I get back at it.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 04:40 PM
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I have a 16" SFAR that I've been working up a load for. I cleaned mine prior to shooting and was really dirty. I will say that that the accuracy has not been great and groups have ranged from 1 to 3 MOA. Groups have improved some after about 200 rounds but still not a sub MOA gun. I bought it to hunt pigs and its accurate enough for that. I worked up a load using 168 AMAX and 41.5 gr IMR-4895 powder. I did a COAL test this weekend reducing the OAL/CBTO in .005" increments, see the attached image. These are 4 shot groups at 100 yards and top right group was the best. You'll notice after the first 2 groups, it has a tendency to group 3 shots tightly with one flier. The flier is generally the first round out of the mag. I'd say shoot a lot it and clean it a lot to break it in, hopefully the groups will improve over time.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 04:48 PM
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We are in the pig contest and going pretty hard at it Thurs-Sunday
So if I don’t give an update, I will once I have time, maybe 2 weeks
-clean barrel -use different grains of ammo -remove suppressor
I’ll do all that once I get back at it. Shoot the ammo without suppressor and then again with suppressor
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 04:50 PM
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We are in the pig contest and going pretty hard at it Thurs-Sunday
So if I don’t give an update, I will once I have time, maybe 2 weeks
-clean barrel -use different grains of ammo -remove suppressor
I’ll do all that once I get back at it. Thanks for reporting back. I'll be interested in the results.
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Re: Ruger SFAR .308
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02/06/23 05:09 PM
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I have a 16" SFAR that I've been working up a load for. I cleaned mine prior to shooting and was really dirty. I will say that that the accuracy has not been great and groups have ranged from 1 to 3 MOA. Groups have improved some after about 200 rounds but still not a sub MOA gun. I bought it to hunt pigs and its accurate enough for that. I worked up a load using 168 AMAX and 41.5 gr IMR-4895 powder. I did a COAL test this weekend reducing the OAL/CBTO in .005" increments, see the attached image. These are 4 shot groups at 100 yards and top right group was the best. You'll notice after the first 2 groups, it has a tendency to group 3 shots tightly with one flier. The flier is generally the first round out of the mag. I'd say shoot a lot it and clean it a lot to break it in, hopefully the groups will improve over time. Is this suppressed?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
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