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ATF ruling on SBRs #8757540 12/14/22 03:54 AM
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If the ATF makes everyone register their pistol, what stock is everyone putting on their new SBR?

Also, anyone have an opinion on the law tactical folder? (Or any of the knock offs)

Always wanted one of those.

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Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8757545 12/14/22 04:01 AM
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I’m going with the LWRC Micro stock. It’s almost as short as most the PDW stocks out there but you can actually get a good cheek weld on it. Been running on of my other SBR for a while now.

This is my micro 300BLK 5.5” barrel that I’m about to SBR. Christmas present to myself.

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Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8757548 12/14/22 04:06 AM
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So if they make everyone register does that mean they will have to throw down $200 for a tax stamp?

Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: Greg] #8757551 12/14/22 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg
So if they make everyone register does that mean they will have to throw down $200 for a tax stamp?

Absolutely, you think they gonna miss out on their mullah.

Been warning people about this for a month or two.


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Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8757555 12/14/22 04:19 AM
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Only silver lining…the end of the goofy azz brace. Im not a fan of the ATF but the brace has been a loophole since day 1 and it was always destined to eventually be shutdown. The ATF probably finally got tired of answering letters about the proper use of braces, realized they were missing out on a bunch of tax $, and just said “eff it, lets just kill these things and be done with this, plus we’ll make a little $ and we can have a few more pizza parties”

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So are they going to make you disassemble it until the stamp comes in? Or have they said?

Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: Greg] #8757577 12/14/22 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg
So are they going to make you disassemble it until the stamp comes in? Or have they said?

Yes. I think they give you 4 options

Disassemble
Destroy
Turn in
Register (still have to disassemble until you get your stamp)


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Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: KRoyal] #8757585 12/14/22 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KRoyal
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So are they going to make you disassemble it until the stamp comes in? Or have they said?

Yes. I think they give you 4 options

Disassemble
Destroy
Turn in
Register (still have to disassemble until you get your stamp)


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Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: jeepercreeper] #8757606 12/14/22 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepercreeper
Only silver lining…the end of the goofy azz brace. Im not a fan of the ATF but the brace has been a loophole since day 1 and it was always destined to eventually be shutdown. The ATF probably finally got tired of answering letters about the proper use of braces, realized they were missing out on a bunch of tax $, and just said “eff it, lets just kill these things and be done with this, plus we’ll make a little $ and we can have a few more pizza parties”


Actually they are just fine with braces and the TB already decided as such. This is straight from Biden in an EO.


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Originally Posted by jeepercreeper
Only silver lining…the end of the goofy azz brace. Im not a fan of the ATF but the brace has been a loophole since day 1 and it was always destined to eventually be shutdown.


There is no silver lining to this. The only thing goofy about this is having to pay the man $200 just to have a barrel shorter than 16”

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by jeepercreeper
Only silver lining…the end of the goofy azz brace. Im not a fan of the ATF but the brace has been a loophole since day 1 and it was always destined to eventually be shutdown. The ATF probably finally got tired of answering letters about the proper use of braces, realized they were missing out on a bunch of tax $, and just said “eff it, lets just kill these things and be done with this, plus we’ll make a little $ and we can have a few more pizza parties”


Actually they are just fine with braces and the TB already decided as such. This is straight from Biden in an EO.


Eh, not true. There isnt an EO targeted at braces. It was a Executive Action which is not the same. Basically just the ATF asking Biden to help them move things along. ATF has been against braces since the inception, now they just have the endorsement they needed. If it was an Executive Order, we wouldnt be sitting here months later with braces still on our guns.

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Originally Posted by KRoyal
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So are they going to make you disassemble it until the stamp comes in? Or have they said?

Yes. I think they give you 4 options

Disassemble
Destroy
Turn in
Register (still have to disassemble until you get your stamp)


You also have the option of replacing the pistol-length barrel with a rifle-length one. Not that it's much consolation, but at least you keep the lower & BCG this way.


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Re: ATF ruling on SBRs [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8757854 12/14/22 05:43 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as of right now they have not released any rulings, and none of us really KNOWS anything. We can speculate based on drafted proposals of rules, but no new rule has come out. Correct?

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Originally Posted by unclebubba
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as of right now they have not released any rulings, and none of us really KNOWS anything. We can speculate based on drafted proposals of rules, but no new rule has come out. Correct?

This is as far as it has gotten so far.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-06-10/pdf/2021-12176.pdf


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Originally Posted by KRoyal
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as of right now they have not released any rulings, and none of us really KNOWS anything. We can speculate based on drafted proposals of rules, but no new rule has come out. Correct?

This is as far as it has gotten so far.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-06-10/pdf/2021-12176.pdf


Biden ordered it in April and the TB wasn’t prepared for it so it’s been pushed back several times. It was supposed to be finalized in December.


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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as of right now they have not released any rulings, and none of us really KNOWS anything. We can speculate based on drafted proposals of rules, but no new rule has come out. Correct?

This is as far as it has gotten so far.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-06-10/pdf/2021-12176.pdf


Biden ordered it in April and the TB wasn’t prepared for it so it’s been pushed back several times. It was supposed to be finalized in December.

Yep supposed to go into effect this month, but haven't heard anything else on it lately.


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So remove the brace, still a pistol.


i am cancelling my subscription, i am tired of your issues!
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Originally Posted by Greg
So if they make everyone register does that mean they will have to throw down $200 for a tax stamp?


One article said there will be an initial grace period when you register it without paying the tax. Free SBRs for everybody!

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Originally Posted by howl
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So if they make everyone register does that mean they will have to throw down $200 for a tax stamp?


One article said there will be an initial grace period when you register it without paying the tax. Free SBRs for everybody!

That’s over now.


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Originally Posted by KRoyal
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So if they make everyone register does that mean they will have to throw down $200 for a tax stamp?


One article said there will be an initial grace period when you register it without paying the tax. Free SBRs for everybody!

That’s over now.

That's over as in we had the opportunity and missed the window? Or over as in it's no longer going to be instituted?

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Missed the window I believe. I don’t really know for sure they’ve change it so many times and I’ve watched so many videos with conflicting information my brain is fried lol. I think the window was October and November.


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Well, hell. If I'd have known that, I'd have built a couple of SBRs.

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So who wants to draft a letter for our TX reps asking them and Abott can make a TX law protecting us from this federal overreach?

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Originally Posted by DonPablo
So who wants to draft a letter for our TX reps asking them and Abott can make a TX law protecting us from this federal overreach?


Might want to brush up on your civics lessons.

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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
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So who wants to draft a letter for our TX reps asking them and Abott can make a TX law protecting us from this federal overreach?


Might want to brush up on your civics lessons.

Which part?


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