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Best Budget Fixed Power Scope? #8754177 12/09/22 08:46 PM
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I am looking for a decent quality high magnification fixed power scope for load development. What suggestions do ya'll have?

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Distance? Level of accuracy sought?

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Originally Posted by howl
Distance? Level of accuracy sought?

I do most of my load work up at 100 yards and then go to 300 or so to verify. I really just want to make sure I am holding on the same spot each shot.

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You can do pretty good sight-in work at 100 yards with a 4X scope with a target suitable for it. However, 10X is better and quite suitable for 300 yards. I use a 3x15 at 500 yards for sighting in and it works very well. The main issue, IME, is glass quality. Cheap glass at any magnification will deny you precision. But you do not need a fixed power. Not many of them around anyway. For your application a decent quality 3x9, 2x10 or 3x12 will serve quite well. But you live and die with glass quality. The more magnification you have, the better the glass quality needs to be.

I use a couple Burris XTR ll scopes in 3X15 and have been extremely pleased with them.

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Re: Best Budget Fixed Power Scope? [Re: J.G.] #8754262 12/09/22 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by J.G.
SWFA.com SS HD 10x or 12X




That's what I was thinking. I had one for a while, just for load development and I thought the glass was quite good. They're tough as nails and the warranty is excellent.

They don't cost an arm and a leg, either.


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For load development you should be looking at something 24x or more 36x is better. The weaver t36 is a excellent example or even the sightron 36x or maybe its a 40x now. Or buy a used leupold 36x you can find them for around $400 used. You used to could buy the weaver new for $300.

Fine x-hair with a 1/16 or a 1/8 min dot, prolly 1/8 moa clicks.

This will rule you out for having different points of aim, you can’t see with anything under 24x to get really fine.

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Cheapskates swear by 6-24x Tasco Target/Varmint and Simmons Whitetail Classics. They've been making those scopes forever. Not fixed and I wouldn't admit to using one of the Tasco for a bench mule in cheap Weaver rings for years. And if I did admit to it, I could at least say I didn't buy it. Someone gave it to me. They may have even been serious.

It's true you can increase the size of the target instead of upping magnification if you have good glass. You can also use shapes to match up part of the reticle like fitting a 90 degree of contrasting paper or tape to the angle of a vertical and horizontal of a crosshair. It's slow, though and targets are more of a hassle. A high mag scope and a roll of stickers is much more convenient.

Sightron 36x is probably the budget choice if you're serious about bench work. I never had one.

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SWFA still has their fixed power scopes on sale. This isnt the HD but its 20x and $209
https://www.swfa.com/swfa-20x42-ss-30mm-riflescope-105772.html

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I would not recommend the 20x. I've had two of them and they're not near as usable as a 10x or 12x. The 20x is hard to get behind, but the 10x is very usable.


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If you are going to hunt with it, the SWFA 6x would be a good choice.



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I’ve got one of the Sightron 36x scopes and it’s perfect for load development. I will say that it’s very convenient to have both a 1” and 30mm scope available for test purposes.


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The Sightron SII TARGET 36x42 BRD - Target Dot .125 is very popular and on sale for only $399.99


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I would want zero part in a fixed 20X or higher.

On some days, mirage is going to eat your lunch!

The key to load development at distance is your fabricated point of aim, and your ability to hold the rifle perfectly still, and have perfect trigger control shot to shot, not magnification.

But you do have to have optical clarity to hold the same POI shot to shot.


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I agree. Using the right target for your range, reticle, and magnification makes all the difference.

The SWFA 10x will get it done.


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Thank you all for the suggestions. In a perfect world I would use my 3-15 Leupold VX-5HD with my Impact MOA reticle, but I don't like the idea of moving it from rifle to rifle as it is glues to my dedicated hunting rifle.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the Sightron S-Tac 4-20? I like the fine crosshairs and magnification range.

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You glue the scope to the rings? I've thought about that. I think benchrest shooters do it.

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Originally Posted by Dave Scott
You glue the scope to the rings? I've thought about that. I think benchrest shooters do it.


Tongue in cheek comment....

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Originally Posted by J.G.
I would want zero part in a fixed 20X or higher.

On some days, mirage is going to eat your lunch!

The key to load development at distance is your fabricated point of aim, and your ability to hold the rifle perfectly still, and have perfect trigger control shot to shot, not magnification.

But you do have to have optical clarity to hold the same POI shot to shot.


Mirage is definitely an issue on a surprising number of days. That said, on the right days it makes load testing for accuracy very simple.


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Originally Posted by Savage243


Does anyone have any thoughts on the Sightron S-Tac 4-20? I like the fine crosshairs and magnification range.


I've had one or two of those in SFP configuration. Maybe three, can't say for sure. The S-TACs are solid scopes. I don't play with turrets but I found the adjustments to be pretty good---certainly better than many Leupolds I've owned (if not ALL of them). The glass is decent and if you like a duplex reticle, they're GTG on that account as well. The negatives: they're fairly heavy and the turrets are way taller than I feel they need to be. If those characteristics don't bother you, then I think you'd be happy with one.


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