I have booked a prairie dog hunt at the end of next May and although I have a ar15 in 223, I just bought a 6.5 creedmoor that I will be taking too. The guy I went with is basically what I wanted he says his shots are out past the 500 yard mark out to 1000 yards. Perfect as I don't care how many I get shoot but rather shooting them at that distance. I have a Leupold 8.5x25x50 on my ar and I shot one ground squirrel at 500 yards which took me 4 shots. I never put it past the 8.5 as the mirage was starting up at 10 power. This was in the desert in s.cali and with that scope I had really good view of it anyways. I have never even looked at a animal past that point except through bino's. Any thoughts with your guys experience out past that 500 yard mark thank you

Past 500 the only Vortex that's going to be able to do any good is the Razor line. I won't own anything Vortex, not even Razor. Had too many of them break.

Shooting small, and shooting that far, you gotta pay to play when it comes to rifle scopes.

20x should be fine for 1000 yards provided the glass is clear and the scope is functioning properly. More is almost always better.

I shoot pdogs with vortex PST 5-25x50. I'm hard pressed to see them at 800yards. You'd better have a good spotter to give you good corrections no matter what you are shooting.

Can you give us more on the Vortex's breaking? How, from what, etc? Seems a lot of people shooting them in PRS and they have a lifetime warranty.
I only have a couple on low recoil guns (22's and 357 SBR) so don't have a lot of hard use. But was looking a one of the LPVO for a 556 SBR.

Vortex’s claim to fame is their great marketing and warranty. Their products aren’t that good. From what I have seen they break way more than any other brand. It is like it is their business model to build junk and the replace it.

I saw this just yesterday https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCRmbEG/ This guide in Colorado has personally seen three vortex scopes, one vortex spotting scope, and a set of vortex binoculars break on hunts he was guiding.

If you want a LPVO I would get a Kahles or NF. I have both and love them.

Here is some information from the Precision Rifle Blog and a survey they did at a big long range match.

Well thank you for all the suggestions, both the two top contender scopes are out of my wife's wanting me to spend lol. I always wanted a night force for sure but, with those prices and me not really hunting that much she'd kill me. I tried to look at the Kahles website trying to see what scopes that they had the I can talk to my wife about but they don't even put the prices down, wow. Maybe next year I could get one for sure but not after what I spent this year, I bought a nice Henry and that Ruger, oh yeah the Kimber lol. I hope that Vortex will at least be okay to 600 ish yards? I have to vortex bino's and the only reason I bought the second pair was I thought that I lost it during the move, took a couple of months but I found the first pair. I actually fell and slid down the side of the mounting while climbing it on my hands and knees very early in the morning while bow hunting with no light to get into position, All the while sliding on the Vortex and nothing happened. I know they are not that expensive and with my skill level at 1000 yards which is none, I was just wondering just in case would I be able to see them. I have some time so perhaps I can buy one, but I have heard so many people say that the glass on the night forces is not clear as it should be, and I have looked through some in a gun store in Orange, Cali about 5 years ago and wanted one and still do lol. So I will try and talk to the wife after the new year and see what she says. Until then I guess I'd have to use what I can for now.

I was looking at Optic planet and Amazon there are so many option on the scope what would I need to get to shoot at 1000 yards not that I can shoot that far but, just in case. Would it be a mill dot type scope or some thing else? I know that I need small lines and stuff that doesn't block the view of my target. What type of reticle for the scope on the night force. I could probably talk my wife into a 2100 scope but not now lol. This way i can take this information down and keep it on my phone and start looking. If she see's me looking while at some gun stores she just might give in hehe.

I would look for this scope.

https://cameralandny.com/shop/brand...013b-7fec-00163ecd2826?variation=3260093

This is a nice scope too for sure.

Clearly seeing something as small as a prairie dog at 1000 yards is no easy task. You are going to need quality glass to do so. A vortex Razor would probably be fine but likely not their lesser models. The Razor costs as much as many other high end scopes though so I wouldn’t pick it.

Aside from seeing the prairie dog at 1000 yards hitting it is a whole challenge in itself. How good are you at reading the wind? At 1000 yards every 1 mph of cross wind is going to push your bullet about six inches. This means if you think you had a 4 mph wind but it was really 6 mph you just missed your target by a foot. At 1000 yards your bullet is dropping around 7” per every 10 yards. Misjudge your distance by 10 yards and you just missed your prairie dog. That is the math part of it now for the skill. Group sizes are angular meaning a 1” group at 100 yards will be 2” at 200, 6” at 600 and 10” at 1000 yards. You better be shooting some tight groups like less than a half inch at 100 yards if you want to have a reasonable chance of hitting a prairie dog at 1000 yards.

I don't have that much experience at all at that distance but this is why I am asking on the scope and reticle type that I need. I want the Night force it has been a scope that I wanted for a long time. I can buy it now actually it's just with buying two rifles so close to gether for about 4000 that I spent. I would need to soften the blow for my wife a bit hehe. What reticle do I need to use for the prairie dog to see them. I have a Leupold 8.5x25x50 with the varmint reticle and I liked it for my ar15 this is what i shot a ground squirrel at 500 yard with, in 223. I have a 200 zero on it, and to me that scope was really clear. It doesn't have and hash marks about the zero point but the the lines on that scope are super thin and at 500 yards didn't cover up that squirrel at all it is so thin. What Night force scope do I need for 1000 yards? I really don't want to go over 3000 if i can help it, any help will be appreciated thank you.

You would want either a Mil or MOA reticle. A small floating dot in the center is great but mostly you want to make sure it has a thin reticle that won’t block out small targets at distance. You might look into the Athlon line, their Midas group of scopes and above are quite nice. I have the Midas TAC and love the MOA reticle with tiny floating dot.

I have a hard enough time hitting a 12" x 12" plate at 800 yards. I couldn't imagine trying to hit a 12x3 target that moves every time you miss.

Honestly, is there a scope that would allow a fellow with good eyes to see a prairie dog at 1000 yards.

Every thing you said is truce about being off just a little and the wind too. I don't want a floating scope I didn't care for it on Call of Duty either lol. I would think there is a scope that will allow you to see the pd for sure, how bid it would be would depend on the power of the scope. If I could have the right scope then at least i could see them lol

What kind of scope were you using to hit those plates at 800 yards?

Does Night Force make a scope with a reticle for varmint hunting out to or even beyond 1000 yards?

Does Night Force make a scope with a reticle for varmint hunting out to or even beyond 1000 yards? Looks like the np-r2 but I don't know if it or not. Kind of like their mill dot, does anyone have a suggestion or knowledge on these?

I didn't see a Tasco, Bushnell, or Simmons listed as some of the most popular scopes.

Night Force Mil-C reticle

I have two of them. They afford very precise Mil holds. The small hashes are in .2 Mil increments, so you can hold to .1 Mil