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New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/28/22 06:30 PM
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Want to get a new vest for my dog, her current vest has had it. Want to get a nice one and have fitted for her, I know BradyBuck is an expert on this..
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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Seems like if his opinion was the one you wanted...that someone should show you how PM works. I always liked the Avery (I know you can't get one of those) because of the handles...so I'd buy the one that had handle cut outs on top.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/28/22 08:11 PM
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I always liked the Avery (I know you can't get one of those) because of the handles...so I'd buy the one that had handle cut outs on top.
Not sure I want handles, they can get caught on limbs. Another reason for a good fitting vest.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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This is my dogs current vest, this thing has had it!
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/29/22 12:14 AM
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The best thing to do is get a neoprene vest and tailor it. I’ve had a drake one, Avery and the game winner from Academy. Neoprene is neoprene, the top Velcro and zippers are a bit nicer on the Avery and drake ones.
There are mixed reviews on any of the Velcro types.
Get a vest that fits around the chest/body.
Pinch up the access material in the neck and arm holes. Mark and cut out the triangles that form when you pinch up the access material, put back together with neoprene cement, for extra strength you can sew with waxed string.
I have found it’s the only way to actually get a vest to fit accurately without it looking ridiculous by having a giant neck hole and cutting away most of the material around the arms.
If you tailor it this way you’ll have a very nice fitting vest and the dog will be dry everywhere the vest touches.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/29/22 12:42 AM
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I bought the cement off of Amazon. Also there are adjustable vest as well. Momarsh makes one and Dive Bomb as well if interested in that route.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/29/22 03:03 AM
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Bought a momarsh one for my pup. They’re made to be totally adjustable. The top handle can be “stowed” if you don’t want/need it.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/29/22 01:38 PM
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Real world reviews on the momarsh adjustable vest….
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/29/22 03:08 PM
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Some may have a better experience but most adjustable vests have terrible reviews
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/29/22 08:19 PM
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I do like momarsh products, I have talked to Ira a few times over the years. I'm going to go to cabela's where I can actually see and feel some. Last time I felt an Avery vest, it was so thick and stiff, I seemed like a really hard canvas over the 5mm neoprene, that is great for durability, but probably not that comfortable, and makes it harder to swim in. Tara's current vest I really like, soft, 3mm, very flexible. That vest is probably 15 years old, Molly wore that vest...
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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11/30/22 02:52 AM
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I don't get it --------- what does the vest do??? I"ve never seen a dog wear one, and I"ve probably hunted with dogs more than anyone else on this forum.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I don't get it --------- what does the vest do??? I"ve never seen a dog wear one, and I"ve probably hunted with dogs more than anyone else on this forum. Really, so you are like duck hunting dog expert? Well if I have to tell you what a vest is for that says enough about you.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I have the adjustable and the ones that I made corrections on as well. Honestly, most the time I don’t even use one. Bought the Momarsh one because of the hype and it does adjust and fit well. It is a pain if I would want to use it on multiple dogs and adjust it each time. So I have it fit for my larger of the 4 and will use it on her if needed.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I'm thinking find the one I want, and taking it to seamstress and having is custom fitted and sewed.. I really do not want to cut it/sew it/cement myself, but it may come to that.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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12/01/22 03:39 AM
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Years ago I had an Avery "boater" vest for my chocolate dog. It fit well without much alteration (maybe just lucky with my dogs size/build). I just looked and they still make them. They have a nylon web harness sewn inside so you can pick the dog up by the vest if needed, or help get on a stand, etc.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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12/01/22 01:56 PM
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Do they even make 3mm vest? I don’t want 5mm, that is too much JMO. Looks like everything is 5mm these days, my 3mm vest was great.
I don’t need a handle, Tara gets on dog stand fine, in and out of the boat fine, but with a stiff 5mm vest it might be needed lol.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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12/01/22 02:41 PM
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I have rig’em right. It’s well built but don’t love flop in the neck. My dogs odd size since he is so broad chested though, might fit better for a lab I just use mine when there is ice to protect from cuts so it doesn’t get used much.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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12/01/22 05:28 PM
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Cabelas used to make one I really liked back when I had Labs. I have a 3mm I bought at Bass Pro that is labeled Red Head. I have to fit vests for my versatile dogs due to the deep chest and small waist. It is easy. Put the vest on the dog. Mark where it fits the dogs chest. Measure from the base of the tail to the back of the vest. Measure how big around the dog is. Do this every 4” till you get to where it fits. Unzip and lay the vest flat. Measure and mark each place on the side seam. Subtract the size you need. Mark 1/4 of the distance above and below the seam on each side. Connect the dots and cut out the piece from both sides. Sew it back with dental floss. Seal the seam with neoprene cement that is used on wet suits. Do the same on the neck. My tight coated dogs don’t need a vest in Texas. They are helpful when we waterfowl hunt up north in single digit temps and high wind. A seamstress could probably get a better fit but what I end up with is not bad. That is a big statement booskay.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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He also has a gun safe decoy with bags of concrete in it. I think we should pull up a chair and learn a few things!!!!
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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12/01/22 09:35 PM
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Cabelas used to make one I really liked back when I had Labs. I have a 3mm I bought at Bass Pro that is labeled Red Head. I have to fit vests for my versatile dogs due to the deep chest and small waist. It is easy. Put the vest on the dog. Mark where it fits the dogs chest. Measure from the base of the tail to the back of the vest. Measure how big around the dog is. Do this every 4” till you get to where it fits. Unzip and lay the vest flat. Measure and mark each place on the side seam. Subtract the size you need. Mark 1/4 of the distance above and below the seam on each side. Connect the dots and cut out the piece from both sides. Sew it back with dental floss. Seal the seam with neoprene cement that is used on wet suits. Do the same on the neck. My tight coated dogs don’t need a vest in Texas. They are helpful when we waterfowl hunt up north in single digit temps and high wind. A seamstress could probably get a better fit but what I end up with is not bad. That is a big statement booskay. That’s the best way to do it! Velcro wears out and still never really fits correctly. As far as the question about why to use a vest. If your vest is properly fitted it will keep a dog warm and dry wherever it covers. My dogs would be fine without one on most days but it makes them much more comfortable on those very cold mornings duck hunting.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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When you use that cement, do you put it just on the neoprene to connect it, or do you also put it on top of the canvas/clothe on top of the neoprene? Does that make sense? If you have some pics would be great. Also looking smoky’s pic, looks there is a hole above the front shoulder that you would pinch up, cut, cement to close?
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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Looks pretty good really...
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I like that last one Guy.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I like that last one Guy. Me too but my concern I’m not getting BradyBuck approval…
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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When you use that cement, do you put it just on the neoprene to connect it, or do you also put it on top of the canvas/clothe on top of the neoprene? Does that make sense? If you have some pics would be great. Also looking smoky’s pic, looks there is a hole above the front shoulder that you would pinch up, cut, cement to close? You can take it out by cutting the seam a few inches front and back of the shoulder. Pulling it tight and marking what you want to remove. Cut it out an put back together. I leave a little room in the shoulders. I don’t know if there is anything to it but I think he moves better like that. I sew first and then seal the seams. Those that just glue can probably tell you what they do. Don’t over complicate it.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I like that last one Guy. Me too but my concern I’m not getting BradyBuck approval…
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I came back to see if you and BB has decided which one was best…what a disappointment
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I leaning towards the momarsh but I need BB's approval first.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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SPACE FOR RENT
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Warmth and protection. Your dog crashes the water and hits a stump, really hope he’s wearing a vest. Gdogg on this form, his dog got a big gash in the side, required rushing to the vet to get stitched up, would have been prevented with a vest. My dog has got gashed in the belly, and required stitches.. vest would not have helped because they do not cover the belly, they should. My dog wears one mainly for warmth, if it is above 35 I do not put it on, don’t want her to over heat. One reason I like 3mm vs 5mm. Long cold boat rides at dark 30 in the morning, I see my dog looking for warm places to hunker down, vest helps.
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I don't get it --------- what does the vest do??? I"ve never seen a dog wear one, and I"ve probably hunted with dogs more than anyone else on this forum. Really, so you are like duck hunting dog expert? Well if I have to tell you what a vest is for that says enough about you. LOL
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I don't get it --------- what does the vest do??? I"ve never seen a dog wear one, and I"ve probably hunted with dogs more than anyone else on this forum. Wasnt a believer in vests myself, none of the dogs I ever hunted over wore them. I put one on my first lab and she went through 3 of them throughout her lifetime because she even hated them so damn much. Tried it as a pup, she got it ripped to shreds rubbing against trees and brush piles until it came off. I was given another when she was roughly 4 years of age (the Gf, at the time, thought she got cold), she went out to retrieve a downed duck, was gone for a little longer than I thought she would be, came back with duck but no vest. Giggled as I told the gf she wouldnt wear it and she didnt believe me. Last one I got because when she got to her final stages in life, I could see she was physically cold, but still had the drive to go and was able to go on simpler hunts so I took her. Again, second hunt that sucker was gone forever. So now here we are with this pup and shes little, but shes lightening fast. This little booger is only a 50 lb lab, comes from great lines but was obviously the runt. Has all the makings and genetics to be an astounding hunter, and shes coming along nicely. But that little girl gets cold and gets cold quick. I got her a vest and she loves life. As soon as it comes out of the truck, I swear she gets more excited and helps me put it on her. She gets right down between my legs and lifts straight up into me, both legs come off the ground and I can swoop both front legs on her in no time. Doesn't flinch or move getting it zipped up on her and as soon as I lay the velcro down the back, shes gone to the boat or the blind. I am not sold on vests for dogs, but for my current one, I know shes a fan so I will keep putting it on her.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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I came back to see if you and BB has decided which one was best…what a disappointment Cheap neoprene tailored to fit… IMO all adjustable vests are crap
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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Jeeeezzzzz BB….Guy’s dog caught hyperthermia waiting on you to decide
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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Ok. so I think now I'm leaning back to cheap neoprene tailored to fit… Seriously, I think I like the cheap 3mm vests I posted, $30 or so, tailor fit it, I think will be perfect. I might take to a seamstress.
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Re: New retriever vest, BradyBuck???
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Just bought an Avery 3mm. The 3mm ones I posted above did not have the size I need, could not find cabalas 3mm. But found a place selling Avery 3mm in the size I needed, more expensive but that is ok, $40, $53 with ship and tax.
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