Great observation. There was no doubt a lot of experience with long range ballistics at play, as evidenced by the descriptions on their website on what services they offer their clients. They've evidently learned where you cross the line between what a common rifle bullet can and cannot do at that distance.

I suspect the feat was also half taking on the challenge and the other half attracting publicity for their business. I mean, would you want to learn from someone who can make a one mile shot or someone who has hit a target at more than four times that distance?

If a buddy came over and said he hit a target 4 miles away in 5 shots and could do it again, I’d really be impressed. But, if he said he shot at it 20 times, let the barrel cool, shot 20 more and let it cool, and then shot it 20 more and let it cool, and then hit it on the 8th shot in string 4, I’m not really sure what my response would be.

Many years ago, when I was young, there was this fat doe about 775 yards away (stepped it off later). My buddy said I couldn’t hit it, so I had to try. With him spotting, I walked the rounds in and actually killed the deer on the 11th shot. Shouldn’t have done it, but it did get eaten later. No way you could call it good shooting.

If I hit 68 tee shots on a par 3 before I made it would it still be a hole in one?

A doe actually let you shoot at her 11 times without running off? That’s more interesting than the OP lol.

It was a long way off is all I can say. She did flinch as I got closer.

I couldn't get past the elevation of the barrel to the scope. With that much elevation, that's ranging artillery onto the target, not rifle marksmanship.

I am still waiting on an answer, of course you do not want to provide it.


And, once again, you are out of your depth.

The information, and schooling to shoot 800 yards, is the same as 1800, 2800, 4000 yards.

Their 68 misses were most likely, majority, wind. Wind is the trick at ANY long range shot.

The longer the flight time, the more chances the wind changes from trigger squeeze to arrival. Maximum ordinate on that shot being so high, the projectile is suffering in wind the shooter and the spotter cannot see.

Given they're slinging a 422-grain projectile that's landing at 689 ft/sec, that may be a legitimate position.

The forward spotter, typically either Shepard or his wife, Lynn Sherwood-Humphries, when more than 100 yards from the target, would most frequently hear a whistle above, right or left, and a “thump” somewhere behind or between them and the target, but could not see any dust.


Yeah, that kinda sounds like a description of ranging incoming artillery.

I am just impressed with the experimental work with aerodynamics they did with the bullet. Calling in artillery type shots isn't exactly precision riflemanship. Coming up with gear that will toss a bullet that far is just the first step on the long road to precision riflemanship at that range.

Almost 3 1/2 boxes to sight in a rifle?
Return it and get your money back!

This is probably equivalent to a 22lr at 1000 yards.

At what point do we go to a shoulder fired 20mm? 4.5 miles?

Agree. I read the previous record was also hit on the 69th shot.

The Vortex then died

warranty voided for mounting on a cannon

the .416 variants are the current go to EXTREME long range cal's

I don't mind they took 68 shots. I mind that they took that long and then certify it as some sort of record? And this is the target they shot at?????




I do agree with the shooter's decision to keep his name silent. Certifying this as a record is embarassing. Wise man

Target should be no larger than a person or animal or other actual real life target, and should get no more than 3-5 shots. Anything more than that is fine if you want to do it, but don't pretend that it's anything remotely meaningful or should count as a "record".

Could I hit at 4.4 miles under those circumstances? Nope. Neither could these guys. Not saying I could. I am saying that having a record for rifle shooting should have requirements that make the scenario realistic and the accomplishment meaningful.

Somewhere I have some charts published by the military on how to fire an M2 in an indirect fire mode at maximum possible range. I wonder how the math on that plays out compared to the shots they took here.

The tape grid must have made it easier for spotters to determine and relay correction data.

Meh. I'm with JG. In fact, I'm not impressed with any attempts that take over 10 shots. If it can't be duplicated it is just luck throwing lead down range.

Apparently so. “Congrats on the hole in one after only 68 attempts. Here is your participation trophy.”

They should have used my girlfriend for a target cause all my buddies tell me everybody they know has taken a shot at her:)

Exactly.

Yeah. Now had they followed up the hit with a second hit, I'd be much more impressed.

Agreed. Given nothing changed in the physical setup, the variance between the two might yield some interesting info on the performance of all the variables. But then, I suspect there were lessons learned the crew will keep to themselves.

I agree, as far as world records go, but I do like to see these things done and how they got there.

What I don’t understand is that they thought that scope was their best option. Aside from it being a Vortex, a FFP, really? I’m a FFP guy, but for a rig like that and at that sort of distance, what was the thinking behind that?

If mirage is too bad, you can back off magnification a bit and get some clarity back.

I have FFP on the .300 Norma Mag. NF ATACR 7-35X F-1

I would use the same scope on a rig for 2+ miles as well. Those guys add a second prism ahead of the scope objective. Image shifts 100 MOA/ 29 Mils if memory serves.

Okay. That makes sense.

It’s still a Vortex, though.