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MACHINIST NEEDED #8653231 07/31/22 09:13 PM
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I am looking for a machinist and with my VERY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE, he will need to be top notch machinist. Looks like I will have to have a BOLT SHROUD machined, Apparently there are NONE in existence or at least none that I can find. Thanks Daniel

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Bolt Shroud for what action?

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MARLIN XL7 30-06.





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That’s the exact same gun I use for deer and hog. What happened to it?

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Might be better off buying an aftermarket bolt



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Is this what you are looking for:

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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Is this what you are looking for:

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YES,YES,YES





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Originally Posted by DustyArmadillo
That’s the exact same gun I use for deer and hog. What happened to it?


Not sure but gunsmith put a new barrel Shillen 308 on it and some how broke the bolt shroud off.





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Originally Posted by rickym
Might be better off buying an aftermarket bolt


Where and what kind?





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Can you find a drawing of it?


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Can you find a drawing of it?


Jason, I don't know but I might be able to. Daniel





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Originally Posted by DLALLDER
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Is this what you are looking for:

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YES,YES,YES

I don't see a machine shop wanting to make a 1 off reverse engineered part. That has mill and lathe work. It also looks like an assembly itself and will have some tight tolerances. Even if you find a drawing you're looking at several hundred $'s in set up cost alone. Machinists work from drawings that are fully dimensioned (with tolerancing) or solid models. Machined articles like this need to be made in qty's of 1,000's or more to get the cost down to less than what you'd pay for a complete bolt assembly. Sorry, but unless you know someone that owns a machine facility that would do you a huge favor and reverse engineer the broken part you may be stuck on high center.


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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
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Is this what you are looking for:

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YES,YES,YES

I don't see a machine shop wanting to make a 1 off reverse engineered part. That has mill and lathe work. It also looks like an assembly itself and will have some tight tolerances. Even if you find a drawing you're looking at several hundred $'s in set up cost alone. Machinists work from drawings that are fully dimensioned (with tolerancing) or solid models. Machined articles like this need to be made in qty's of 1,000's or more to get the cost down to less than what you'd pay for a complete bolt assembly. Sorry, but unless you know someone that owns a machine facility that would do you a huge favor and reverse engineer the broken part you may be stuck on high center.


Thanks, but that is NOT what I wanted to hear. Daniel





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He's correct, my stuff is all manual so it is probably do-able.

But I was wanting to see a drawing and then fire you a price (if I could do it). Buying another bolt might be cheaper.

I would let you use my mill and lathe if you think you can hack it.


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Is the original part metal or plastic?

EDIT: Looked it up and factory part (on Numrich) is blued steel or stainless.

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Originally Posted by J.G.
He's correct, my stuff is all manual so it is probably do-able.

But I was wanting to see a drawing and then fire you a price (if I could do it). Buying another bolt might be cheaper.

I would let you use my mill and lathe if you think you can hack it.


I would not touch either machine, my experience with both has been standing and watching someone else run them, however 20+ years ago I could have fixed the electronics in it. Several have suggested buying another bolt, SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE!!!!

Thanks Guys, This is a rebarrel job that has turned into a nightmare. Daniel

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If you are paying a gunsmith, why isn't he making it right? Sounds like it was his screw up.


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Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
If you are paying a gunsmith, why isn't he making it right? Sounds like it was his screw up.

What he said.


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Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
If you are paying a gunsmith, why isn't he making it right? Sounds like it was his screw up.


I do not know exactly what happened but I THINK he doesn't have the ability to solve the problem, without finding a new bolt shroud or a new/used bolt. Daniel





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The original part looks like casting judging from that part line.

I could run that part on one of my machines, but there is no way I could do it and keep it affordable.

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Originally Posted by LonestarCobra
The original part looks like casting judging from that part line.

I could run that part on one of my machines, but there is no way I could do it and keep it affordable.

Was I wrong, thinking that was a press fit assembly from that line? It may be a flexible shroud that snaps in and held by the tab on the side?


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Okay, I have a question from the THF guys. Without a different bolt or a new bolt shroud, I am leary of shooting the gun although it will shoot per the gunsmith. I am not even sure of the purpose of the shroud. The gun does have NEW Shilen Match grade barrel on it, what do you think i should do with the gun and new barrel ( 5 shots) through it. 22 inch finished barrel with out the nut . Thanks Daniel.

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IF the gunsmith broke it, he need to repair it, replace the bolt (which may result in him having to pull the barrel and redo because the headspace is off), or he needs to replace your action and again he has to start over with the barrel.

This is on him to correct his mistake. He should be on the phone/email with his buddies looking for the parts. He should have more industry/parts contacts than you.

You may try this board and a person Dangerous Dan. He makes bolt handles, may have other parts. I found this just doing some quick searching

https://www.marlinowners.com/threads/aftermarket-parts-for-the-xl7.75418/

Have you checked "Pre-Ruger" Marlin service centers?

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/customerService/#three

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J Hills, I registered on MO forum and posted about needing bolt shroud or complete bolt assembly and was banned because I did not have a required number of posts. The Pre-Ruger site , I sent emails to 7 or 8 of the gunsmiths and Marlin parts retailers listed and received 1 response. Gunsmith contacted Ruger and was told they did not buy any parts or hardware in the Marlin deal. Thanks Daniel





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Do you have the broken parts?
Might not be too hard to make a “working” shroud. Depends on what that little tab does.
The thread looks left handed.

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