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Aziak vs RRS cinch #8648815 07/25/22 09:30 PM
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So there was a tiny itty bitty debate on which Bino adaptor was the best for glassing off a tripod. DStroud introduced a contender, that I hadn’t seen so…

So I now own both.

First review RRS cinch-$45
I’ve used RRS cinch now for over a year.
Cheap, light, adjustable and easy to change to any position or options you want. Base fits arca attachment well. The fluid head doesn’t need a lot of tighting due to width of base. If you have smaller enclose bino harness, it takes two second to move it up the barrel of the Bino’s if need be. But that’s also con, being it may need to be moved up.

So pro’s
One size fits all-works with all types of binos and combo units
Easy adjustment, not only for different bino barrel sizes but position(if a little off center, it takes two seconds to re-adjust).
Has More material from arca base then azaik(less tension needed to steady)
Robust and beefy

Cons-
Can be too bulking for some enclosed bino harnesses and may need to be moved up the barrel To accommodate(two second fix)
Weights a touch more the Aziak(if you are literally an ounce counter)

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Next up Aziak. 36.99

I honestly didn’t think I would like it when I saw it. But for same cost as RRS, I figured why not. I was surprised. My biggest concern was lack of acra base size. I felt the little footprint would have lots of play, in in a tripod head. It had some but not enough to really worry about,

Pluses:
It’s a poly material not aluminum(plus in my mind). Poly type material isnt affected by elements as much and has a little more give when sliding into an aluminum base.
Small foot print, more stream line the Cinch.
If your Bino’s fit the harness then this will fit too. No second thought or need to adjust.
Attach and forget
Will work with all types of Bino’s and combo units

Cons-
Not one size all. Barrel/model specific
Once on its on- you will need an Allen wrench to change position or location
This is a just a guess but being it’s not as robust, durablity MAY be less then cinch.

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All and all don’t think you can go wrong with either. DStroud thank you for the recommend.

If you want a one device multi bino adaptor go cinch(run 10x then change over to 15x’s in 4 seconds)
You want least intrusive, ultra ultra light, set and forget go Aziak


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Thanks. I got the cinch other day after seeing both kinds from DStrouds. It seems “good enough” for me. I wish it was a hair bigger and I could use on my big camera. Maybe tweak it and apply some duct tape…..


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Originally Posted by freerange
Thanks. I got the cinch other day after seeing both kinds from DStrouds. It seems “good enough” for me. I wish it was a hair bigger and I could use on my big camera. Maybe tweak it and apply some duct tape…..


Does your camera have a screw hole in the bottom?


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Thanks. I got the cinch other day after seeing both kinds from DStrouds. It seems “good enough” for me. I wish it was a hair bigger and I could use on my big camera. Maybe tweak it and apply some duct tape…..


Does your camera have a screw hole in the bottom?

Yes it does but it is under the bottom of the camera body. It’s a huge zoom(125x) so when it goes out the pivot point is far to the front so it’s not stable at the intended place. With a little ingenuity and duct tape (Hud tape) it works. But the tape isn’t taught so it’s not entirely stable.

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Thanks. I got the cinch other day after seeing both kinds from DStrouds. It seems “good enough” for me. I wish it was a hair bigger and I could use on my big camera. Maybe tweak it and apply some duct tape…..


Does your camera have a screw hole in the bottom?

Yes it does but it is under the bottom of the camera body. It’s a huge zoom(125x) so when it goes out the pivot point is far to the front so it’s not stable at the intended place. With a little ingenuity and duct tape (Hud tape) it works. But the tape isn’t taught so it’s not entirely stable.

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You just need a longer plate to balance. See below or just google “long arca plate”

https://www.amazon.com/HITHUT-Unive...hy=9027222&hvtargid=pla-664342297138


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Bobo that’s great. I keep reinventing the wheel with baling wire and duct tape and it usually works ok. But as I keep forgetting-anything you want is out there if you know where to look. Internet research comes slowly for some of us olds.
THF comes through again. Can’t quite picture it on the cam but I guess it will work.


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Originally Posted by freerange
Bobo that’s great. I keep reinventing the wheel with baling wire and duct tape and it usually works ok. But as I keep forgetting-anything you want is out there if you know where to look. Internet research comes slowly for some of us olds.
THF comes through again. Can’t quite picture it on the cam but I guess it will work.



Same principle you have going now but stiffer. The screw at the base of the camera(one you have the thin metal tied too) attaches the longer rail to it.

Same premise for the ultra large spotting scope(95-115mm)

Called long rail or balance rail


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This is good info!

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Im about to order that balance rail thingy. It looks like its designed for the tripod head to attach direct to the rail. Mine wont do that. Ill have to use the rail like I did the metal strip and put a bolt down away from camera and attach my quick detach plate. Then that will attach to the tripod head. If it doesnt work theres always duct tape. Ill have to order the 5.6" one. Thanks Bobo.


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Originally Posted by freerange
Im about to order that balance rail thingy. It looks like its designed for the tripod head to attach direct to the rail. Mine wont do that. Ill have to use the rail like I did the metal strip and put a bolt down away from camera and attach my quick detach plate. Then that will attach to the tripod head. If it doesnt work theres always duct tape. Ill have to order the 5.6" one. Thanks Bobo.


It’s just a long quick connect plate, that’s basically what it is. Check the width on you current connect plate. Not all arca Swiss plates are exact same size but they are close.


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For me it’s not just width but length and width. 1 5/8” squared.
It’s not like a slip and slide you can go back and forth on. My male has to go in the female just right……
edit...fyi, the one on the cinch fits my tripod head(not exactly but it works.)
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Originally Posted by freerange
For me it’s not just width but length and width. 1 5/8” squared.
It’s not like a slip and slide you can go back and forth on. My male has to go in the female just right……
edit...fyi, the one on the cinch fits my tripod head(not exactly but it works.)
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Ohhhh. I got it now. Your head is not open all they way through like mine are

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Bobo, have you tried the OutdooIrsmans Binocular Adapter and stud? That's my favorite way to attach binos to a tripod. Zero bulk added to the binos so no interference with a bino harness.

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Bobo, like most of my hunting stuff, I’ve had this tripod setup for decades so never knew any different. I can make the rail work with mine.


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BOBO, is your tripod a sirui as well?
I am looking at a combo sirui traveller VC with the VA-5 head. Good price on a conbo on amazon right now. Total weight is 3+ lbs so very portable but reviews well.

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Originally Posted by MacDaddy21
Bobo, have you tried the OutdooIrsmans Binocular Adapter and stud? That's my favorite way to attach binos to a tripod. Zero bulk added to the binos so no interference with a bino harness.


Yes and some how lost the post after it came of the arca plate in a middle of a hunt. Before that incident I had a pin come out of the bridge of my Bino’s(think that was vortex pin), I ran one(outdoors man and vortex) for about 12 plus years. It’s a good product just to many parts for me now. I switched to the bog BBR Binocular Rest for a while, but it’s pretty heavy. Found cinch beginning last year and used it for 3 mule deer, and an elk hunt. So 30-40 days solid glassing. Very very happy with it.

The cinch or the Aziak IMO is a lot simpler with less moving parts to loose or put up/get out. With either the cinch or Aziak, it’s just like a spotting scope with plate attached. You hardly notice it’s there and don’t have to take any thing on or off every time you want to glass. You flawlessly move from sliding bino in/out, to moving spotter in/out then move to rifle in/out.


Like I said is not that the outdoorsmen is a bad product, it and the vortex posts just have a lot more moving parts and aren’t as adaptable or universal (ranging bino or non/ hinged bino).

Now if you glass a lot out of a utv(like flip open the window and start glassing, The bod pod sticks with the bbr rest is super quick and efficient. Just make sure you preset your stick height




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BOBO, is your tripod a sirui as well?
I am looking at a combo sirui traveller VC with the VA-5 head. Good price on a conbo on amazon right now. Total weight is 3+ lbs so very portable but reviews well.


No I have a couple tripods (Artcise, bog pod, vanguard, vortex and silk). As far as heads I have one ball head that might be an old vortex(it’s very light duty) and two sirui va-5 heads. I’ve tried to move to all sirui a
Arca Swiss plates style heads so everything is universal. Va-5 is the best weight to performance to budget option ive found in my opinion.

You can definitely tell the difference in carbon tripods from like 2vets or RRS then the others, just like Outdoorsmen is why higher end then Vanguard on aluminum. I just haven’t needed the performance to weight to cost formula yet.


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Pulled the trigger on the sirui combo. Thanks for opening that can of worms for me cheers

Thats not true at all. been eyeing something for a while and your (and several others) input convinced me this isnt rocket science. Will see how that combo works out. Gotta go get an adapter for my old school cortex talons….not stepping up that game just yet.

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Universal, interchangeable, flexibility is what it’s about for me. I use the same tripod plate for multiple cameras, spotter and binos and leave them on. Then I have multiple tripod heads they all attach to. Definitely the tripod but other uses for multiple applications. I have C clamps that I had rigged up to except separate tripod heads that I attach to 3 windows in blind. I can quick detach cameras and spotter from window to window in seconds. I also have pvc attached to each side of tripod and then attach tripod head to monopod and it slides into pvc and once again quick detach any optic. The C clamps can work on parts of a vehicle etc.
It’s all about speed and ease of function.
I would include pic of the cinch which is interchangeable with the quick detach system but after just a week it is lost!

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I hope that didn’t seem off topic. I was showing how the cinch can be used in multiple applications in a quick detach system. Whether it’s cinch or whatever, it’s the universal switching out that keeps the stuff being used instead of staying in a gear bag or closet.
Hard to see but this is the pvc attached to tripod that excepts my monopod which had the same tripod head that works with cinch and my other optic plates.
Attached with a small radiator hose clamp, but added duct tape just to make sure(and to keep Hud on his toes.)
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Originally Posted by freerange
Universal, interchangeable, flexibility is what it’s about for me. I use the same tripod plate for multiple cameras, spotter and binos and leave them on. Then I have multiple tripod heads they all attach to. Definitely the tripod but other uses for multiple applications. I have C clamps that I had rigged up to except separate tripod heads that I attach to 3 windows in blind. I can quick detach cameras and spotter from window to window in seconds. I also have pvc attached to each side of tripod and then attach tripod head to monopod and it slides into pvc and once again quick detach any optic. The C clamps can work on parts of a vehicle etc.
It’s all about speed and ease of function.
I would include pic of the cinch which is interchangeable with the quick detach system but after just a week it is lost!

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Love it!!!


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Just to make sure we covered this thoroughly here is another new bino holder for those that like The Outdoorsman style.

https://tricerusa.com/collections/frontpage/products/gtp-bs


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Just to make sure we covered this thoroughly here is another new bino holder for those that like The Outdoorsman style.

https://tricerusa.com/collections/frontpage/products/gtp-bs


These types of bino adapters will work well for modern binos with a single hub central hinge. But my old school binos don’t have the ability to use an adapter like that so something like the RRS or Aziak cinch would be necessary.

Vortex Talon HD. Great glass for their price, not sure why they got rid of them. Don’t plan to get rid of them for now

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