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black panther ? #8620551 06/15/22 02:02 AM
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pic taken by girlfriends sister inlaw in arizona while out on a hike
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Jaguar? Or booner house cat?

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It’s not black. It’s the angle of the sun. I know the cactus trees are not black either.

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Lighting, as others have said. Photo was taken on the dark side.



Re: black panther ? [Re: Theringworm] #8620690 06/15/22 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Theringworm
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lol That's what they all say. Arizona is a big place. Southern part its a Jag from south of the border. But I will wait for Gary to chime in?

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Re: black panther ? [Re: HornSlayer] #8620702 06/15/22 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HornSlayer
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lol That's what they all say. Arizona is a big place. Southern part its a Jag from south of the border. But I will wait for Gary to chime in?


Not bobcat, clearly a Mountain Lion but NOT black as others have pointed out. The picture simply shows the 'shadow' side of the cat, just like other items in the pic.

It amazes me that in this day and age that folks still persist with the idea of Black Panthers (in America). Or 'Bigfoot'.

But walk into any barbershop and bring the subject up and you'll find someone that claims to have seen one or both. A sad commentary on the intelligence of some folks IMO.


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Originally Posted by flintknapper
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Bobcat

lol That's what they all say. Arizona is a big place. Southern part its a Jag from south of the border. But I will wait for Gary to chime in?


Not bobcat, clearly a Mountain Lion but NOT black as others have pointed out. The picture simply shows the 'shadow' side of the cat, just like other items in the pic.

It amazes me that in this day and age that folks still persist with the idea of Black Panthers (in America). Or 'Bigfoot'.

But walk into any barbershop and bring the subject up and you'll find someone that claims to have seen one or both. A sad commentary on the intelligence of some folks IMO.


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Re: black panther ? [Re: vanguard] #8620724 06/15/22 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Davidson
Dang, now you guys are gonna say that Santa Claus isn’t real.


He actually died in a Nazi concentration camp in 1943. Sad, but true.


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Agree with most, shady side of the cat.


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Cool pic for sure

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A lot of folks believe a lot of stuff that isn't true.

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100% black panther...can't believe y'all can't see that in the picture rolleyes


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Black panthers are real though and look like this.
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What, nobody’s concerned about that orange UFO?


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What, nobody’s concerned about that orange UFO?

No because everyone agrees that orange UFOs exist.

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Originally Posted by huntwest
It’s not black. It’s the angle of the sun. I know the cactus trees are not black either.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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Originally Posted by Hunter307
Jaguar? Or booner house cat?

winner winner chicken dinner


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Originally Posted by colt45
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Jaguar? Or booner house cat?

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Certainly not a house cat....as we have enough vegetation of roughly known scale to estimate the size of the cat.

Unlikely a Jaguar, since only 7 documented sightings have occurred in Arizona since 1996 (the last quarter century) and THEN it would have to be a black/melanistic specimen making the possibility all the more slim.

Its a Cougar alright...just photographed on the shady side.

With respect to Jaguars and Cougars....typically Jaguars are larger, heavier and stockier in build (if mature and in good shape). The outline of the cat pictured strongly suggests a Cougar.

As for the label "Panther" I know it is used liberally (but incorrectly) a Mountain Lion/Cougar is not even in that genus of cats (Panthera). The Cougar is of genus (Puma) and is not even considered one of the 'Big Cats'. Lion, Tiger, Leopard and Jaguar are in the genus (Pantera) and are big cats, all of which can 'roar' owing to certain anatomical features.

No.....this is yet another claim by those desperate to believe in that which doesn't exist (black cougars/black panther). Same folks are easily sucked in by the notion of a Bigfoot/Sasquatch.

With respect to the latter (Bigfoot) you needn't look any further than South Louisiana for the answer. IF a Bigfoot existed....the 'Cajuns' there would have a recipe for it and they don't. Hence they don't exist (bigfoot). wink


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But what if its the shady side of a black panther?


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Black panthers are real though and look like this.
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But what if its the shady side of a black panther?


Show me the sunny side of a 'Black Panther' (documented pic of a Black Mountain Lion) and then we'll discuss it. wink


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