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Re: Bipartisan Gun deal struck [Re: Jimbo1] #8618861 06/13/22 12:01 AM
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What determines competency? I’m not talking about a real psychiatric problem, I’m talking about folks that may not have the same view as others. Like the other thread talking about the white Christian nationalist that were arrested for intent to disturb a riot in Idaho?

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Originally Posted by R83steve
What determines competency? I’m not talking about a real psychiatric problem, I’m talking about folks that may not have the same view as others. Like the other thread talking about the white Christian nationalist that were arrested for intent to disturb a riot in Idaho?

You better be able to sue the life out of any SOB that turns someone in because they want to get even or were mad at someone. realmad

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Roughly 35 million dollars from the NRA to the 10 Senators who drew this garbage up on the Republican sides. Romney the highest at over 13 million alone. Seems the NRA has been duped.


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They're part of the problem... If you think, they have your 2nd ammendement gun rights
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This...100 f*cking percent! Pay attention NRA kool-aid drinkers. This man speaks the truth.

Re: Bipartisan Gun deal struck [Re: Texas Dan] #8618891 06/13/22 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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Originally Posted by JCB
Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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18 yo can still buy firearms with this change. It's just that any juvenile record is included in the check.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun deal struck [Re: Jimbo1] #8618897 06/13/22 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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18 yo can still buy firearms with this change. It's just that any juvenile record is included in the check.


I see. Still not a fan. I thought they were moving the age of purchase to 21 like they were trying to do all along.

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Originally Posted by JCB
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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18 yo can still buy firearms with this change. It's just that any juvenile record is included in the check.


I see. Still not a fan. I thought they were moving the age of purchase to 21 like they were trying to do all along.

They knew that had no chance, just like banning AR's.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun deal struck [Re: Jimbo1] #8618901 06/13/22 12:48 AM
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Yeah, go ahead and give them that. That will not only solve gun crimes, but it will also satisfy their urge to remove all guns from the public.

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Originally Posted by JCB
Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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At 17 in Texas you are considered an adult.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun deal struck [Re: luv2brode] #8618905 06/13/22 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by luv2brode
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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At 17 in Texas you are considered an adult.

You still need a parent to sign you up for the military at 17.


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Re: Bipartisan Gun deal struck [Re: Sneaky] #8618906 06/13/22 12:52 AM
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Yeah, go ahead and give them that. That will not only solve gun crimes, but it will also satisfy their urge to remove all guns from the public.

You being serious? confused2


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Re: Bipartisan Gun deal struck [Re: luv2brode] #8618909 06/13/22 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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At 17 in Texas you are considered an adult.

That requires a court to grant emancipation though doesnt it? Its my understanding that age 18 is the threshold without court proceedings. I know you are probably in a better position of understanding the law than I am though.

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Congress did not want deal with the issues. This will encourage some states to add additional restrictions.


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Allen West for senate the next time Cornyn's term is up.


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Allen West for senate the next time Cornyn's term is up.

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Congress did not want deal with the issues. This will encourage some states to add additional restrictions.


Have you seen New York laws on possessing and carrying firearms? The second amendment has already been destroyed in some states, yet they still have some of the highest firearms crimes. Just goes to show when firearms are prohibited, only criminals will have them.





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Allen West for senate the next time Cornyn's term is up.

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Originally Posted by JCB
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Firearms, magazines, and ammo were left alone and the focus put on where it should be, messed up people and kids who really shouldn't have access to a firearm. There are no silver bullets but this will likely prove firearms were never the source of the problem.

Has no impact on adults and kids who keep their nose clean at home, work, and school.


How can you say that??? At 18 you are considered an "adult". But under this proposed new law they cant buy firearms? You would think if you were an adult in the eyes of the law then you would have full Constitutional rights. But I guess all adults are not created equal under our new Constitution.
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At 17 in Texas you are considered an adult.

That requires a court to grant emancipation though doesnt it? Its my understanding that age 18 is the threshold without court proceedings. I know you are probably in a better position of understanding the law than I am though.


Your understanding is correct. The age of Majority in Texas IS 18. But with a court granted emancipation it can be 17 yrs. old (even 16 under certain conditions).

https://www.findlaw.com/state/texas-law/texas-legal-ages-laws.html


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No. No more compromises. We’ve made for too many, already.


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No. No more compromises. We’ve made for too many, already.


If I was to compromise, which rights would I get back in return?


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Yeah, go ahead and give them that. That will not only solve gun crimes, but it will also satisfy their urge to remove all guns from the public.

You being serious? confused2


You know better than that.

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
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Yeah, go ahead and give them that. That will not only solve gun crimes, but it will also satisfy their urge to remove all guns from the public.

You being serious? confused2


You know better than that.

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New laws won't matter and they won't help. This is just a further erosion of our freedoms. The GOP who signed this are scum.

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I've been on a weekend long fishing trip with my son, and have been busy at work, so I have listened to/read zero news in the last 5 days. So, I have no idea what is in this law except for what was in the thread. Red flag laws sound good on paper...except that there is too much opportunity for abuse, and little to no due process. I can understand being upset about that part. But Juvenile records being included in the background check for 18-21 years olds does not sound like a bad thing at all. If you have been a total POS from age 15-18, then on your 18th birthday, because you suddenly have a clean adult record, should you be able to purchase a gun? Now, if said POS cleans up his act as an adult, and has no more issues with the law from 18 -21. that adult would then be able to purchase a firearm. Is there something else in this law that I am missing? What is wrong with the Juvi record part of it?


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