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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
[Re: ILUVBIGBUCKS]
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05/25/22 02:48 PM
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Prayers for all the victims and their families as well as the LEOs and medical personnel helping the injured.
Folks we can debate this sick chit all day and all night but the bottom line is our society is a mess today and we can blame it on video games, TV, internet, and whatever else we want to but the bottom line is it comes down to horrible parenting by many today! Who the hell cares what video games are out there because as a parent you should be spending time with your kids and monitoring EXACTLY what they watch, play, and do and there are MANY who do not. They let phones, Ipads, TVS, and PCs do the parenting so they don't have to!
Good luck with that. There is almost no way to monitor what kids see on their phones or tablets. You can get your kids involved in lots of activities, teach them right from wrong, monitor who they hang out with, and communicate openly with them. But, you're not going to filter what they're able to see and access on phones. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themself. I disagree strongly. You damn sure can monitor exactly what they are doing on a PC, IPAD, or a phone. There are plenty of parental controls that can be used and done to do exactly this! Yep, you sure can. Plenty of ways to monitor and filter. In fact, you can control if your kid even has a phone or ipad.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 02:51 PM
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Agree with this big time. My Son just turned 4 on Friday. He loves the outdoors and playing outside. Last night when I was putting him to bed I told him we were going to have a lot of fun this weekend because it was a long weekend. Told him we were going to play outside on trampoline and water balloons and stuff. He said no, I don't want to play outside I want to watch TV.... I explained that is not how he'll be raised, he will be going outside and playing as much as possible, not couped up in the house watching TV. So not sure where the hell that came from, maybe thats what his friends at daycare like to do, but not going to fly in my house.
I think they are learning it at school/daycare. My 4year old is doing the same thing over past few months. One thing we've started doing it setting timers for tv time. Once the timer goes off, TV goes off and we're doing something else. Tablets and phones are a no-go. Seen so many young kids zone out on devices so we've made it a point that kids dont have devices, period.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 02:58 PM
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Went to mass with my wife this morning. Our kids go to Catholic school and they have children's mass on Wednesday. It really hit home looking around the nave and counting the children. My daughter has 18 in her class and my son has 16. We all prayed for our children and for the children and parents of Robb. The sanctity of life has been forgotten by too many.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 03:03 PM
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Agree with this big time. My Son just turned 4 on Friday. He loves the outdoors and playing outside. Last night when I was putting him to bed I told him we were going to have a lot of fun this weekend because it was a long weekend. Told him we were going to play outside on trampoline and water balloons and stuff. He said no, I don't want to play outside I want to watch TV.... I explained that is not how he'll be raised, he will be going outside and playing as much as possible, not couped up in the house watching TV. So not sure where the hell that came from, maybe thats what his friends at daycare like to do, but not going to fly in my house.
I think they are learning it at school/daycare. My 4year old is doing the same thing over past few months. One thing we've started doing it setting timers for tv time. Once the timer goes off, TV goes off and we're doing something else. Tablets and phones are a no-go. Seen so many young kids zone out on devices so we've made it a point that kids dont have devices, period. It's the same with my kids. They get their tablets on planes or car trips over a couple hours. I don't think the screens are necessarily the problem themselves, but it's what they take the place of. Screens are a replacement for spending time socializing with friends, active parenting, creative playing, etc. All of that is crucial to raising healthy kids.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 03:25 PM
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Agree with this big time. My Son just turned 4 on Friday. He loves the outdoors and playing outside. Last night when I was putting him to bed I told him we were going to have a lot of fun this weekend because it was a long weekend. Told him we were going to play outside on trampoline and water balloons and stuff. He said no, I don't want to play outside I want to watch TV.... I explained that is not how he'll be raised, he will be going outside and playing as much as possible, not couped up in the house watching TV. So not sure where the hell that came from, maybe thats what his friends at daycare like to do, but not going to fly in my house.
I think they are learning it at school/daycare. My 4year old is doing the same thing over past few months. One thing we've started doing it setting timers for tv time. Once the timer goes off, TV goes off and we're doing something else. Tablets and phones are a no-go. Seen so many young kids zone out on devices so we've made it a point that kids dont have devices, period. It's the same with my kids. They get their tablets on planes or car trips over a couple hours. I don't think the screens are necessarily the problem themselves, but it's what they take the place of. Screens are a replacement for spending time socializing with friends, active parenting, creative playing, etc. All of that is crucial to raising healthy kids. Good on you and your better halves!!! We were certainly not perfect parents in any way but I can honestly say that we spent A TON of time with our kids and did not go anywhere including weddings unless our children were invited. I can remember several times my two saying to me or their mom "but so and so did/does" and we wouldn't even let them finish the sentence and simply asked them does so and so live under our roof? I'm not going to lie and say it is always easy but parenting is NOT supposed to be easy we are not supposed to be our children's buddies! They are going to buck you along the way but you will be damn happy you stuck to your rules and so will they eventually! They will know and do right from wrong even when nobody else is looking and to me that is the most important time to do the right things!
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 03:38 PM
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Agree with this big time. My Son just turned 4 on Friday. He loves the outdoors and playing outside. Last night when I was putting him to bed I told him we were going to have a lot of fun this weekend because it was a long weekend. Told him we were going to play outside on trampoline and water balloons and stuff. He said no, I don't want to play outside I want to watch TV.... I explained that is not how he'll be raised, he will be going outside and playing as much as possible, not couped up in the house watching TV. So not sure where the hell that came from, maybe thats what his friends at daycare like to do, but not going to fly in my house.
I think they are learning it at school/daycare. My 4year old is doing the same thing over past few months. One thing we've started doing it setting timers for tv time. Once the timer goes off, TV goes off and we're doing something else. Tablets and phones are a no-go. Seen so many young kids zone out on devices so we've made it a point that kids dont have devices, period. It's the same with my kids. They get their tablets on planes or car trips over a couple hours. I don't think the screens are necessarily the problem themselves, but it's what they take the place of. Screens are a replacement for spending time socializing with friends, active parenting, creative playing, etc. All of that is crucial to raising healthy kids. Same on both accounts. We're allowing maybe 2 hours a day tv time, which he doesn't really watch because we're in the floor playing monster trucks or board games or dinosaurs, so it actually shocked me when he said he wanted to watch TV rather than go outside. Because in reality he doesn't even watch much TV it just plays in the background. No phone or tablet time for him, only time he gets to watch a tablet is on a plane or road trip (more than 5 hours). We just went to Galveston on spring break and left the tablet at home and he didn't even notice. We're about to drive to Sarasota FL next month so we'll take it, but hiding it in the trunk until he just has to have it. We also take our son everywhere with us, every vacation, shopping, get together. Only place we don't take him is the casino. I'm like you, if he isn't invited than neither are we.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 04:21 PM
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You will never remove evil from this world but you can take sensible steps to defend against it……not rocket science…..secure the school and station a police officer there every day the school is open……my kids school district has done this for over 15 years now….
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
[Re: cleatas]
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05/25/22 04:25 PM
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Maybe we will get a profile of the shooter and what led to this. Remember even before internet and social media we had murderers like Charles Whitman and Charles Manson.
Social media can radicalize people by feeding them more of whatever keeps them engaged. Combine that with a sociopath or psychopath and you can get dangerous results.
This wasn’t a “normal” kid that became crazed after too much IPad and games.
To be determined
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 04:47 PM
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 04:58 PM
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That's not entirely accurate. There was an officer at the school yesterday who immediately encountered him and was shot. All of the schools in my ISD have dedicated armed officers. And many middle schools and high schools probably need metal detectors as another preventive measure. My 8th grader told me last night he wishes his school had one.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 05:07 PM
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That's not what I have read.....please post your source......I have read when the first officer arrived he was already barricaded in a class room where he shot the officer from....
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 05:11 PM
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That's not what I have read.....please post your source......I have read when the first officer arrived he was already barricaded in a class room where he shot the officer from.... ABC Ch.13 in Houston says the guy was barricaded and it was a Border Patrol officer who killed the shooter and was himself shot in the process.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 05:13 PM
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That's not entirely accurate. There was an officer at the school yesterday who immediately encountered him and was shot. All of the schools in my ISD have dedicated armed officers. And many middle schools and high schools probably need metal detectors as another preventive measure. My 8th grader told me last night he wishes his school had one. I have also heard reports that officers were onsite when he crashed the vehicle into school; those officers engaged and called in Borer Patrol tactical unit for backup and perp was gunned down by the tactical unit. This has been widely reported.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
[Re: cleatas]
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05/25/22 05:48 PM
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 06:02 PM
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That's not what I have read.....please post your source......I have read when the first officer arrived he was already barricaded in a class room where he shot the officer from.... Straight from Tx DPS: Sgt. Erick Estrada, also of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told CNN that the shooter exited the car and engaged a police officer working at the school. The officer was unable to stop the shooter, who entered the building, Estrada said. linkLaw enforcement officers saw the gunman, clad in body armor, emerge from the crashed vehicle carrying a rifle and "engaged" the suspect, who nevertheless managed to charge into the building and open fire, Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) Sergeant Erick Estrada said link
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 06:52 PM
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Sad for sure...another prayer, RIP and moment of silence. It really sucks to be a parent or family member in this situation...I can't even imagine what that would feel like.
What failed here? People in general? School security? Intel on shooters disturbed behavior? Parents? Teachers? Other?
Liberals and liberal media are already screaming "ban the guns". Sorry turds...guns don't kill people.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 07:07 PM
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Evil abounds in this world today. Carry your weapon.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 07:08 PM
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News keep saying there was no mental health issues beforehand. I beg to differ. If the social media posts of him wearing women's clothes and reports from classmates of him wearing mascara are correct, I view that as a "mental illness" issue. We need to stop normalizing this kind of sick behavior.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 07:08 PM
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Shooter was a crossdressing nutjob. He didn't just snap today. Mental deficiency Many more just like him that need to be confined in an old fashioned asylum like they had 50 years ago. At least this one is exactly where he needs to be
Photos online of this idiot in his dresses and women's clothes and wigs and such. Can't make them post on here and they'll probably be deleted by morning. Can't portray perverts in a negative light you know. They're just peaceful and not violent at all Guess what those pics are not him. Try some facts before you post .
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 07:18 PM
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News keep saying there was no mental health issues beforehand. I beg to differ. If the social media posts of him wearing women's clothes and reports from classmates of him wearing mascara are correct, I view that as a "mental illness" issue. We need to stop normalizing this kind of sick behavior. Errr . . . ., that's no longer considered to be a disease.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 07:49 PM
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News keep saying there was no mental health issues beforehand. I beg to differ. If the social media posts of him wearing women's clothes and reports from classmates of him wearing mascara are correct, I view that as a "mental illness" issue. We need to stop normalizing this kind of sick behavior. Errr . . . ., that's no longer considered to be a disease. All of the crossdressing pictures/posts have been debunked. There is not one single legitimate source that says any of that is him. An mentally deranged teen for sure, but not a crossdresser.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 07:49 PM
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News keep saying there was no mental health issues beforehand. I beg to differ. If the social media posts of him wearing women's clothes and reports from classmates of him wearing mascara are correct, I view that as a "mental illness" issue. We need to stop normalizing this kind of sick behavior. Errr . . . ., that's no longer considered to be a disease. I've at times remembered with shame when back around 1992, waaaaayyy before this was common, ridiculing in front of everyone in the cafeteria a table full of guys wearing mascara. My discomfort with such a thing then or now is of no matter as it does seem to be very clear in my experience that someone who is flamboyantly going against the grain of societal norms is covering up deep pain and struggles. Though I disagree with them, and do not fear them, I can appreciate those who call for further gun control measures after these events, in their need to do something to prevent future tragedies, or at least be able to live with themselves for having tried to do something. This is honorable, even if misguided or futile. We will say guns don't kill people, people kill people. One thing we know is that mass killers share many things in common, but one thing in particular, they are marginalized, separated from society for a myriad of reasons and rendered feeling powerless. While this of course in no way shape or form justifies their horrible actions or releases them of their responsibility to deal with their pain and struggles, it does show us something we can definitely do to help with this problem that affects us all, because marginalized people (too often) kill people. While this isn't even close to the complexity of the problem, ceasing in our own lives, and standing against, marginalizing others can make our society greater and more safe. The great pastor GK Chesterton was asked, sometime in the late 19th century, to submit, along with other great thinkers and leaders of his time, an essay answering the deep, enduring question, "what is wrong with this world?" His response was so powerful, and potentially helpful, I shall quote it in its entirety here. He wrote: "I am." Readers overwhelmingly voted this the most impactful and helpful essay and other submitting writers, of very high repute requested their essays be withdrawn after reading Chesterton's, saying that he had said all that needed saying. Now let's get on to the doing, with that mindset.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
[Re: cleatas]
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05/25/22 08:39 PM
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Just a question on this afternoon's presentation with Abbott, Patrick, the Uvalde mayor (God bless him!), etc. - Did Irish Bob actually think that would help his chances at being governor? What...a...douche. I'm sure an "assault weapons" ban is coming. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last one came about after a McDonald's shooting in California. The ban listed all the brands that were banned. It didn't mention the actual brand (Chinese?) that was used in the McDonald's shooting. That's our federal government at work folks.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
[Re: cleatas]
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05/25/22 09:19 PM
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The media aren't the Only Liars what about all this stuff we've been spoon-fed all our lives? Oh, I get it He Was Stopped Before He Could Kill More, please spare me.
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Re: Around 10 kids deceased
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05/25/22 09:42 PM
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News keep saying there was no mental health issues beforehand. I beg to differ. If the social media posts of him wearing women's clothes and reports from classmates of him wearing mascara are correct, I view that as a "mental illness" issue. We need to stop normalizing this kind of sick behavior. Does a sane person shoot up a school?
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