Let's assume it's $30 per month and you drive 1250 miles/month. That's 2.4 cents per mile. A truck getting 18 mpg would be 22.2 cents per mile in gas cost at today's prices, so roughly 10x as much.

Road tax on EV could be easily collected when license tags are renewed. For my trailer that is under the inspection weight limit, they simply replaced the $7 inspection fee with a “ Clean air tax”, which is pretty amusing since it doesn’t have an engine.

They are going to hit the EV's hard soon with road tax. Going to be rated by how many miles a year are driven. There will be a sticker next to the inspection sticker. And you best not claim you only drive X amount, and you are over it if stopped. And also, I am hearing there will be a tax accessed on roadside charging stations that will be added to how much it takes to charge your EV.

2022 Model Y. Honestly don't drive it out of town or anything enough to see any real difference when using accessories, but I wouldn't guess it would be much.

I was looking at solely using fast chargers when out. Found a website that broke it down pretty well. But to be fair it seemed a little high to me but using chargers out will be more expensive than at home I’m sure.

The people furnishing the public use chargers are in the business to make money. Nothings free.

Model Y comes with a 75KW battery with a 300 mile range. Lightning comes with 100KW battery with only 250 mile radius.
Model Y is a top of the line EV. Everyone else is playing catch up technology.

Intresting comparison.

Chopped , thanks for your input.

You don’t twiddle your thumbs for 8 hours. You are typically at home, in bed, sleeping. Then you wake up the next morning with a full battery to leave the house on.

If you are someone who needs to do a lot of driving during the day, vs. going to and coming from work, then you would want an EV that supports DC Fast Charging. That kind of juice isn’t available for residential customers. But DCFC will put a lot of miles back into your battery before you can even walk inside to the men’s room and get your zipper down to take a squirt. Stop on the way out for a drink and snacks, stand in line at cashier waiting to pay, and you’ve just about refilled your battery.

As to longevity, I can only tell you GM’s warranty on our Volt. 8 years or 100K miles on the entire Voltec drive train. In compliance states (CA, NY, etc.), the warranty goes to 10 years or 150K miles. By the time you wear out the battery on these vehicles, you will likely be ready for a new vehicle with even more improvements.

I can only hope that my diesel truck will give me that much life. It should, but who knows.

How in the heck will the fragile Texas power grid support an onslaught of new EVs? Many of us in the state experienced a week without service due to 3-4 days from record cold winter before last. ERCOT has already been asking for everyone to turn up their thermostat this year, and it’s not even June.

Guess them folks with those backup generators will be putting them to use..
And the beat goes on!

Hell yes!!!

Let's all go out and get electric cars because we all know the electrical grid can easily handle it without a problem!!!

I'm not opposed to EVs, but I don't drive my primary vehicle much at all (8 years old with 65k miles). I also have a 2001 F150 King Ranch with 85k miles on it. On the other hand, my wife's car is a 2019 Expedition that has 54k miles on it. We take that for all of our road trips and and hauling kids all over DFW for sports. We have a place in CO that we drive to several times per year. It takes me just over 11 hours to drive there. Until there's an EV that can quickly charge after 400 miles than can also fit 5 people, 1 dog, hundreds of pounds of gear, while climbing to 10k over passes with the AC blowing, it's not practical for me.

I can see the cost of the more remote leases dropping significantly as a result of the logistical issues that drive people to hunt much closer to where they live. But then, this would also likely increase the price and demand on leases that are more easily accessible.

EV's are no doubt sure to change the lifestyle of a lot of people. I suspect the nation will eventually return to the days when trains were the backbone of our transportation system, keeping in mind that today's diesel locomotives are actually driven by DC motors. Diesel engines are simply used to drive electric generators needed to operate the massive DC motors.

Iowa, Oregon, Utah, and California have already instituted new road use taxes for electric vehicles. It will just be a matter of time before more states follow.

Unless you are willing to take 12 - 16 hours to fully charge your car at home, you will need to spend some bucks on a special 240 volt outlet to charge at. Is some cases, I'm reading that people had to upgrade the electrical service to their home. So figure in a few hundred to a few thousand dollars to get set up initially.


Even at today's gas prices, its more of a life choice than an economic choice.

All this "technology" and they still haven't converted all these fancy smancy Tesla roofs to solar panels for at least *a little* bit of a self recharge while actively driving and while parked?

Had a friend by a hybrid F150. Says it recharges when the brakes are applied. I guess that would be efficient for in town driving.

First off, you are making assumptions that you will return home with a completely depleted battery pack every day. So that 12-16 hour figure you mention for Level 1 (120v) won’t necessarily take that long.

Level 2 (240) EVSE often have tax or manufacturer incentives, as in covering part or all the cost of installation. I simply ordered my Level 2 EVSE with a NEMA 6-50p connector and it plugs into the welder outlet in my garage. I installed the welder outlet long before we got our Volt so there was no cost to me for that.

While, “some’ people may have had to upgrade the electrical service to their home, that is not the norm. Maybe an old home that only had 100A service because most of the appliances were gas. I have 200A service in an all electric home and it has never been a problem.

An EV may not be for everyone’s situation as yet, but it can work for a majority of households for a commuter vehicle. Electric propulsion is much more efficient at low speed, stop and go driving than gas or diesel. Which is why I have a truck and the wife commutes back and forth to work on electric power. She never has to stop at a gas station, can pre-heat or pre-cool the car while still plugged in to the house before going to work. Regenerative braking makes the brake rotor life estimated to last 100k miles. If your vehicle is all electric, forget about oil, oil filter, air filter, transmission fluid, transmission filter, brake jobs, etc.. You pay more up front, but the operating expenses over the life of the vehicle offset a large part of that up front cost.

EV's in general do better in town for that very reason.

Alabama has a $200 fee for EV's added to the annual registration.